yes, and buy an ad

BUY A FUCKING AD, PIKAT

>>7932838
Yes, i like the competition

>>7932838
Pikat joined YouTube in 2010. On the very low end has to be at least 30. Why she still draw herself as a little girl

>>7932838
It's already more fun than vidya for me

>>7932847
you know women can be short right

>>7932850
waffles?

>>7932847
she's primarily a vtuber, right? i'd wager at least 90% of the audience for vtubers are pedophiles, so it's just good business sense to cater to pedos if you want to be a popular vtuber.

>>7932850
you're either 15 years old or being willfully obtuse if you can't interpret those proportions as child-like rather than just having a short stature.

File: HGON6tKa8AAlpkl.jpg (308 KB, 1200x1068)

308 KB JPG

>>7932856
>>7932881
>child
look, i dont like here either, but are we sure we have eyes.

>>7932881
>those proportions as child-like rather than just having a short stature.
To me it's just a cartoon character.
I don't mean that as in 'oh, it's fine because the little girl is a cartoon', I mean it as in; I don't see it as a child, but a stylised humanoid figure, that based on the context is an adult. It is neither adult or child like enough to definitively say what the character is, until the further context is added.
That's how I honestly see a lot of anime characters - their designs are so nebulous that I can't really interpret what the age of the character is meant to be until I see them in their actual context.

>>7932888
That's a little disingenuous, because that's not how she regularly portrays her character. She usually has a more 'chibi' look that's about 2/3 heads (or so) tall.

>>7932838
I don't really enjoy video games all that much anymore. They are either too easy and boring, or they are too hard and frustrating. When you play the regular casual games, you fall asleep. When you play hard games you have to restart over and over again, or play against some freaks who played the game for decades. You just don't get anywhere with videogames. Even Daigo, who played Street Fighter all this life, still loses against some random fat zoomer mutt. It's just not worth it.

With drawing you actually make constant progress. Plus you always get a nice artifact at the end you can look back at any time you want.

>>7932894
>disingenuous
>it's her own art of her oc
what are we even saying anymore

>>7932838
Definitely. You just need to improve and realize you are improving.

>>7932894
>That's a little disingenuous, because that's not how she regularly portrays her character. She usually has a more 'chibi' look that's about 2/3 heads (or so) tall.
Chibis can be just super deformerd versions of adult too. You are completely full of shit and paranoia.

>>7932902
Anon meant posting her fashion art when her vtuber art is the one being talked about. Dumb-dumb.

>>7932909
Her vtuber is literally that character. That's her fucking concept art. Just dislike her for whatever reason you already dislike her, why do you need to make shit up when she already posts algo slop.

>>7932847
>Why she still draw herself as a little girl
Same reason I draw myself shredded as fuark.

File: Chibi ver.png (68 KB, 480x270)

68 KB PNG

>>7932902
Yeah, >>7932909 nailed it.

>>7932904
>Chibis can be just super deformerd versions of adult too. You are completely full of shit and paranoia.
I think you need to read my post again, and realise how retarded you're being. Her design's vague age was my fucking overall point, dumbass.

>>7932917
>Her vtuber is literally that character.
Huh, I hadn't seen any of her videos in a while. Excuse us for not being her biggest fans and not keeping up to date with her model design changes. I was recalling her older chibi model, which you conveniently forgot to mention.

>>7932838
Yet again this bitch is to be ignored based on the drawing for the thumbnail alone.

she's cute. stay mad and envious nerds

File: 526744843_118075840408053(...).jpg (20 KB, 526x526)

20 KB JPG

>>7933039

File: PK.png (13 KB, 633x148)

13 KB PNG

>>7933039
shes hag status

>>7933043
you wish you could smash that artussy.

>>7933043
>zoomoid thinks 30s is old
Time comes for us all lil bro. You'll realize once you hit your 30s nothing really matters.

>>7933055
>faillenial thinks 50s is old
>Time comes for us all lil bro. You'll realize once you hit your 50s nothing really matters.

stop clicking on these grift videos

>>7932847
If she’s 15, I’m 15, ya smell me?

>>7933059
I mean yeah, 50s isn't old either.
You zoomers age like milk though so it might be a death sentence for you.

>>7933081
50's is old as fuck.
She could have a 20-year-old grandchild.

>>7933088
50s is not old dipshit, it's young middle age at best. You need to get off of the internet or talk to real people.

File: child_screaming_stock_photo.jpg (88 KB, 500x502)

88 KB JPG

>>7932888
>>7932894
Okay I always see these posts when talking about anime designs or whatever whether its fucking /a/ or /v/ or here but come on bros it's literally just stripped from that one stock photo everyone knows about. Forgive the anon for accurately recognizing the child proportions my god

>>7933125
She uses that as her character design in different applications too >>7932993(picrel).
So reference or not, your point is mute, and the discussion is reasonable to have.

>>7933081
>>7933119
>50s isn't old either.
I can literally feel the old man dust coming through the monitor, and almost hear the impudent wheezing and hacking off in the distance.
It's fine if you're old anon, I'm not one of those people who care, and only faggots do anyway, but it comes across as desperation to cling to your youth to say that FIFTY isn't old.

>>7933148
Actually according to the science field, millennials will be the first humans in over 3000 years to live to 150 on average and by the time we are 120+ we'll live to 300 and so on, and so on.

>>7933119
What the fuck nigger? 50 is 20 years from the world life expectancy. Life expectancy would need to be over a hundred years for 50 to be the middle of your life.

>>7933170
That's cool and all, but unless they develop cheap drugs so that we don't develop paper skin, fight of brain abnormalities, live fun active life styles, and preferably remain somewhat youthful in appearance, what's the fucking point? An extra 50 years staring at a hospital's or old folks home's wall? I'd rather eat some piping hot lead.

Anyway, in the context of today; 50 is old.

these kinds of videos never actually helped me
they always seemed useful but in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video to get that ad money

i remember one guy mentioning that a youtube video has to be over 8 minutes long for it to make monetary sense so anytime i see a video over that long claiming to teach something that could've been a 3-5 minute explanation, i know it's a waste of time and never click

granted, i dont even watch youtube anymore, it just all seems like a waste of time

>>7933254
>in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video to get that ad money
how do you know that?

File: piggy.png (851 KB, 1496x840)

851 KB PNG

>>7933257
Many points give it away.
>thumbnail designed for clicks
>title designed for clicks (even if...)
>8+ minute long video
>promoting on /ic/
>posting daily/weekly
all of these, and more, are techniques designed for making youtube a career rather than an educational resource

i get it, you want to make money while not having a job, but these are never helpful
here's the summary of the video via chatgpt:
>you wont always enjoy learning how to draw
>bad drawings are necessary
>avoid comparing yourself to social media
>enjoy the act of creating
>think of learning like exploring
>understand what you are studying
>make practice more fun

none of this is any groundbreaking information you haven't heard from the last five youtubers that already made a similar video already, it's just commoditizing art advice while providing no real take; the point is just to farm /beg/ clicks for easy money rather than specializing so you can teach something actually valuable

>>7933272
>all of these, and more, are techniques designed for making youtube a career rather than an educational resource
that's a false dichotomy. even assuming that there's 0 educational info in that particular video, the fact that they are doing different things to optimize their video, which is monetized, for the algorithm, doesn't itself mean it couldn't include meaningful, educational content. what you're point to is a heuristic at best, which isn't itself knowledge.
>i get it, you want to make money while not having a job, but these are never helpful
I have no intention of monetizing my art, let alone posting it online. I don't even know who the YouTuber is either, I'm more so interested in the argument and whether you can actually support it.
>here's the summary of the video via chatgpt
I haven't watched the video, but assuming it's accurate, you now seem to be equivocating on "fluff". earlier you said,
>they always seemed useful but in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video
meaning that there's a contradiction between something being useful and something being "fluff". now what you're saying is that
>none of this is any groundbreaking information
which is true in a sense, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful, as obviously not everyone has the same frame of reference; and even if you "know" something intuitively or have been told it before, depending on how it's (re)told to you can be itself meaningful.

>>7932881
Why do you talk like a disgusting trans person?

>>7932993
>I think you need to read my post again, and realise how retarded you're being. Her design's vague age was my fucking overall point, dumbass.
So you aren't claiming she's using child-like features in order to bring in pedos?
I'm glad we agree.

>>7933315
>So you aren't claiming she's using child-like features in order to bring in pedos?
>I'm glad we agree.
Yes, quite literally, I wasn't claiming that.
I'll accept your concession.

>>7933342
Then you were just mistaking small for child?
>I'll accept your concession.

>>7932847
My mom looked like a 20 year old when she was 30 in the 2000s. People born closer to today who live half-healthy lifestyles and have good genes should stay younger looking for even longer.

>>7932838
her pixeltuber looked better, 3D one has huge yaoi hands and she flaps them all over the place distractingly

>>7933287
I was pontificating but why would you concede here:
>even assuming that there's 0 educational info in that particular video
when your previous post was asking precisely about how I know there's "fluff" in the video?

"Fluff" is also a colloquial term, not meant to be used in some autistic semantic context. In this case, referring to things you've probably already heard of when it comes to drawing. "Don't compare yourself to social media," or "enjoy the process," or "just draw" aren't anything that needs a 9 minute video to explain. I too can spend 9 minutes talking about any of those points in an engagement-farming YouTube video, just because it MAY be useful for SOME people doesn't mean all the other points can be disregarded.

It's still as I said before:
>they always seemed useful but in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video to get that ad money

>>7932838
the only way ive become addicted to drawing is when it was as a social thing. like using an online paint chat where instead of chatting with friends/strangers i'd draw with them. drawing alone is boring and unmotivating

>>7932838
autistics can't have fun with anything, so no, it's possible for pikat and majority of other artists, but not you.

>>7932838
can you fuck off, why are you even here if you dont like drawing? you want someone to pity you?

>>7933125
steaktron
iykyk

>>7933437
Are you genuinely retarded? Here's my original post:
>>7932894
>To me it's just a cartoon character.
>I don't mean that as in 'oh, it's fine because the little girl is a cartoon', I mean it as in; I don't see it as a child, but a stylised humanoid figure, that based on the context is an adult. It is neither adult or child like enough to definitively say what the character is, until the further context is added.
>That's how I honestly see a lot of anime characters - their designs are so nebulous that I can't really interpret what the age of the character is meant to be until I see them in their actual context.
Where in that, did I call her a child? How did you interpret that as me calling her a child? And how, after telling you several times, are you still saying I thought she was a child. Stop being retarded, retard.
I'm handing back your concession, it smelt like ass anyway.

>>7933081
>I mean yeah, 50s isn't old either.
Are you mentally insane lol
fucking moron

>>7932838
what is it with Pikat that enrages /permabegs/ lmao

>>7933702
girl+popular

>>7933702
A lot of people in artists communities hate the idea of selling out or becoming mainstream, it's always been that way.
This is just /ic/'s version of that; this board hates up & coming artists who make content about that journey, or maybe it's the idea of putting a persona on the art, rather than letting the art speak for itself?

Admittedly, I also hate 'artist videos' that are about themselves, and not their actual art or creation process, but that's not really what's happening with pikat.

>>7933704
>40
>girl

File: artist_pregnant.jpg (90 KB, 828x906)

90 KB JPG

>>7933702
Cause some of these fucks cant teach worth a damn. I watched the vid and its the same fucking trite shit of "learning from your mistakes" that she repeats on and on for everyone of these clickbait videos when in reality pic related gets the idea of "drawing being fun" more across in nanoseconds. Its all about what you want to achieve god damn it

>>7932838
I find it fun and it makes the time go by fast
Sometimes I forget to eat and do other things while I'm drawing
Which is strange, since my ability to maintain attention is already degraded beyond saving

>>7933716
Would you prefer Milf?... Gilf?

File: 1775408788902910.jpg (171 KB, 1280x1049)

171 KB JPG

if there had been a good video game released since 2005 it might be harder but as it is drawing is way more fun than gaming once you get past the /beg/ stage

>artist youtuber
>look inside
>female
>barely any drawing
>no skill whatsoever

any artist that is pretty and good at making videos automatically sucks at art. That excludes 99% of women. Follow this rule and you'll be fine.

Don't pretend like you wouldn't kiss her labia for an @ you jelly crabs. She is living the life you dream of - drawing for fun, huge $ and positive social media reinforcement to snowball her passion for art, career growing rapidly, line of suitors in her DMs desperate for her approval. You can't stand the envy so you try to tear her down in your head.

File: 1680157780661439.jpg (187 KB, 1440x1080)

187 KB JPG

>>7933748
Motherfucker I dont need any @'s Im above that shit
Would kiss her labia though

>>7933748
Thats all well and good and I'm sure I wuold fuck her if I saw a picture of her, but the topic of this thread is her capacity as an artist and art resource. I only care about skill and work, while you only care about social approval and attention.

>>7932838
What does she look like in real life

>>7932838
it's like that but only once you git gud

File: pikat.png (63 KB, 922x794)

63 KB PNG

>>7933748
i like her avatar but i wouldn't believe anything shown or said by "famous" people
Most ecelebs are signed to talent management companies or have some sort of network doing shit to push them, it is rarely their own accomplishment. That's just normal to question someone's success if you've seen your fair share of shit.

Being envious or jealous of celebrities is just what kids, women and retarded normies do.

>>7933544
>why would you concede here:
>>even assuming that there's 0 educational info in that particular video
>when your previous post was asking precisely about how I know there's "fluff" in the video?
for the sake of the argument. my point was that video-algo optimization doesn't disallow, hypothetically, also making an educational video. so even if I were to concede that the video does have no educational content, you pointing out that the video is monetized and "algorithm-friendly" doesn't get you there.
>"Fluff" is also a colloquial term, not meant to be used in some autistic semantic context. In this case, referring to things you've probably already heard of when it comes to drawing.
I'm not saying "fluff" has some necessary, hyper-specific usage which you have to adhere to at all times, I was pointing out an equivocation. again, you first said:
>they always seemed useful but in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video
you are, effectively, saying "useful" is A and "fluff" is not A, that, at least in this case, these things cannot overlap ("I thought it was A, but it turns out it's not A"). so the reasonable conclusion is that you mean it something akin to "unhelpful", or "not useful" more directly. but then you said:
>none of this is any groundbreaking information
which is a different claim, and a different usage of "fluff". words can and are used with different meanings, some are more broad, some are more specific, I was just pointing out you were using different meanings in the same context. if all you mean is that the video isn't "groundbreaking", that's fine. I haven't watched the video, but I can take your word for it. that still doesn't mean, though, that it's not useful. it may not be useful to you, sure, but again, not everyone has the same frame of reference, not everyone is the same age, not everyone has seen the same content or gotten the same sort of advice. we're also not mindless robots who can just snap our fingers and say (1/2)

>>7933791
"oh yeah, being self-loathing is bad. I'm gonna stop that right now." so even if you "know" what to do, it can be helpful to be reminded or told in a particular way. (2/2)

pikat spend 10+ years larping as an artist without having a single clue on how to draw. Now after 20 years she's still larping as an artist without having a single clue on how to draw except now she's rich.

Incredibly fucked up, ability end meritocracy are completely dead. Zoomers are fucking retards

>>7933791
You're completely avoiding my point to argue some other semantic meaning in a colloquial context. You still haven't argued against my point that these videos are all fluff for easy money rather than their purpose being educational/useful. This is a very simple argument that you appear too autistic to understand.

>>7933833
Do we have any videos/images of her old artwork. Her YouTube channel only goes back 2 years.

>>7933842
>Her YouTube channel only goes back 2 years.

>actually deleted 12+ years of larp

grim

>>7933833
her art is good, stop being a crab

File: gal.jpg (70 KB, 768x700)

70 KB JPG

>>7933721
gal

>>7933842
I've brought up your equivocating and also directly addressed your points by quoting them. one of the answers you gave to my question of how you know the video is "fluff" is that it shows algorithm optimization, and I already addressed how even in a charitable scenario it doesn't show that. I also granted your qualification that what you meant by "fluff" was "not groundbreaking", but stated - rightly so - that that doesn't make it not useful.
by all means, show me where I didn't address any of your points.

>>7933924
>>7933842
to add, if anything, you haven't addressed my points. all you're doing is stating I'm dodging, that's it.

>>7933188
50s isn't young, but you're a retarded brownoid
nobody cares about child mortality in your brown shithole cutting life expectancy at birth in half, in normal countries the average life expectancy for women at 50 is over 35, there's a reason everyone is pushing retirement age to 70

File: confucius.jpg (245 KB, 1132x850)

245 KB JPG

>>7933059
>>7933055
>>7933081
old is whatever age you decide to no longer seek new experiences

>>7933081
50 is old, 30 is old, even 20 is old. Having said that, zoomers age poorly and don't have the mental capacity to handle aging so it's very funny to watch. But don't pretend you're young when you're not.

>>7933967
maybe I'm coping because I'm already 30 but I remember when 40 was considered old and nowadays 50 is just 'middle-age'

File: EKui3jIWkAAGA8j.jpg (40 KB, 828x555)

40 KB JPG

>>7934004
you sound like a really annoying bitch.

>>7933851
lol

>>7934004
both were always true, retard
you were always an old fuck at 40 and you were always just middle age at 50 if you had status
ford was in his 40s in raiders of the lost ark, arnold was in his 40s in predator, stallone was almost 50 in demolition man etc

>>7934037
I mean that it feels like the average has shifted

>>7934029
she's getting paid.
whether you like it or not, she's your peer, and if you don't have the clout, career, or income to match, she's outclassing you while you claim otherwise on an anonymous IBS support forum. manage your ego before you embarrass yourself in front of someone you have actual respect for.

>>7934107
lmao

>>7934109
you'll never learn

>>7934029
pyw
(here comes the excuses)

>>7934113
Do you always have a mental breakdown when people tells you to just draw?

>>7932993
Anon discovers the existence of exaggerated proportions

God it was always kind of the case but aren't people throwing the word peso around waaaaaay too much lately?

>>7934182
lol

>>7934271
Not to derail this thread but one of the biggest news stories at the moment currently involves rich fucks being podos and getting away with it.
Even as someone who has been on this website for years I've never had to think of that shit until until the past year. Its the zeitgeist at play here

>>7934403
>one of the biggest news stories at the moment

Been going on for 200,000 years zoomtard

>>7934403
I think it goes deeper than rich people being "pedos". I don't think it's about sexual attraction. I think you're confusing elites with regular rich people. Regular ultra-wealthy folks probably are just pedos (or perverts chasing a "forbidden fruit" high) with enough cash to convince human trafficking elites to let them diddle lolis till the cows come home, but epstein and most of his droogs were occultists who likely performed rituals and mind control on "gifted" trafficked children and highborns
idk i dont really understand the point of your post. is the "zeitgeist" that pedophile is a popular buzzword right now? Because that's how it's always been. It's a common pejorative online for anyone into weebshit

>>7934416
>>7934422
Missing the forest through the trees you guys, Im just saying its no coincidence that people are using the term more when people are in general discussing it more. I mean by god forget that you guys post on the board with a dedicated /lsg/ thread for one second and consider that normies didnt have a constant stream of this topic in a 24/7 news cycle

>>7934458
normies seemingly dont give a shit that pedophile rapejews are in charge because there's been no uproar. my boomer parents still have the wool over their eyes because they cant admit voting for trump was stupid and an error in judgement of his character.
Weirdos who already knew this shit (and participate in society) dont fucking care either. I dont have an intellectual understanding of the complex interworkings of the nwo the dogmatic trials and tribulations of the ancient cabals who formed crafted the hellscape known as modern society together pedophile space whales from 9th dimension
its just silly. let the world burn. i'll just be here drawing until you drag me out of my chair and slit my throat

>>7933745
she is better than most of this board though

>>7934482
shhhh, let him cope.

You can only love drawing after you've learned how to draw. No matter how many tranny self help videos you watch, you won't find a magic trick. Get to grinding, permabeg. You have many years ahead of you.

File: 754634.jpg (32 KB, 1280x720)

32 KB JPG

This broke me

>>7933702
Girls have it easier in life in whatever the fuck they want to do, they get instant attention just for being a girl
In the entertainment business and if you are paid based on how many people are paying attention to you (Whether is followers or subs or whatever) girls have an instant +bonus on their enterprise
/Begs/ start from 0, but when they see a women starting on +150 that can be infuriating.

Inb4 "but she is already big!" doesn't matter her +150 was never gone it's always there
I've learned to live with it, but /begs/ do have the moral right on that one.

File: 1755139267540978.jpg (23 KB, 262x193)

23 KB JPG

>>7933745
>any artist that is pretty and good at making videos automatically sucks at art. That excludes 99% of women. Follow this rule and you'll be fine.

>>7934535
my situation is inverse of that
I've just scribbled for fun here and there for years on shitty grid paper with a pencil and I've liked it so far
but it's getting somewhat less fun since I've been scribbling so much I've accidentally started to actually learn how to draw through raw trial and error and now sometimes I find myself trying to draw well instead of draw fun

File: 1763571711130030.png (156 KB, 820x363)

156 KB PNG

>>7933702
>>7933748
> "here is an ad, if you don't speak favorably about this ad then you are raging mad seething beg incel"

>>7933745
>any artist that is pretty and good at making videos automatically sucks at art

That's why Eleeza makes me seethe. If you follow her IG she even goes out and have a life which makes me seethe even more. She isn't the best at making videos though.

>>7934625
how long are you going to cry? are you still going to be crying 10 years from now?

>>7934782
you telling me that "im crying" doesn't make it less true

>>7934782
Stop seething like a stupid faggot when someone presents a simple fact.

>>7934790
so forever? fucking loser

i miss the days when 4chan would show how many unique posters there were in a thread

>>7934802
you know what else is a simple fact? you're going to die a virgin

>>7934805
i miss the days when people on /ic/ drew

>>7934804
Yes, what I said will be true forever as long as humans are around, yes

File: 1752561830318288.gif (3.11 MB, 498x498)

3.11 MB GIF

>>7933752

File: 1770183059292098.jpg (374 KB, 1920x1080)

374 KB JPG

ZONE is the only female artist I will ever respect.
Miss me with your femscreeching.

>>7934900
The only real drawmommy

>>7932838
As fun as videogames? Easily.
As fun as videogames with your friends? No.
The second one is what gets artists.

>>7934900
Zone is a guy, I think you're confused by his oc which is voiced by someone else

>>7934900
you idiots don't even know left from right

>>7934910
newfag

>>7934912
don't reply to me with your seething, you're not even a woman

>>7934914
I literally know him

>>7934535
my kids love drawing and they are terrible at it! can't even color inside the lines!

>>7932838
it can be, there's a reason why i take long breaks, eventually i get dopamine crash and the headaches follow.

>>7932842
leave her alone, she's trying, anon.

>>7932847
women like being cute
women like being perceived as cute
women like being liked
it makes sense that pikat would present herself as a cute to be liked (it works)

>>7932888
i like some of her other drawings, where she looks like an adult, she's very good at drawing herself pretty

If drawing is fun to you then it means you aren't really trying.

>>7934914
Yeah you are quite new

>>7932847
To bait thirsty solitary men to simp and give her free money.

>>7933272
Wait you clowns genuinely think she uses this website? lal lol ex de

>>7933745
>That excludes 99% of women

That excludes 99% of WESTERN women! Korean girls are surprisingly good at drawing.

>>7939279
>women from the most soulless race on earth
>good at drawing
come on

>>7939028
> If drawing is fun to you then it means you aren't really trying.
IMO it means you (probably) aren't improving.

You can draw the same shit over & over again for easy dopamine. Or you can challenge yourself to draw something new, and gain a huge dopamine hit when you win or feel like shit if you fail. You're supposed to be doing the latter, not the former

>>7939284
Why are you like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyRYpdkTKOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05FVtIwi3e4

>>7939284
I'd take Asian women art videos over your white western male "cartoonist" that spends 80% of this time reviewing chink tablets any day of the week.

How come most of the English speaking mainstream art creators are amateur artists? Do China, Japan and Korea also have their own grifters but we never see them because we don't have access to their home feeds and algorithm so what gets across the language barrier is more filtered?

>>7939287
yup, exactly as I expected. We need an ESL ban on /ic/

>>7939286
drawing the same thing over and over only gives you dopamine if you're autistic

>>7939291
Probably, I'd imagine people that can't make it big and break out of their own language circles stick to their native websites. China has bili and a couple of other major sites, Japan has nico, and while I'm not sure what Korea has, if anything, youtube tries really fucking hard to keep videos to whatever language it's decided to pick for you as damn near the only thing it will show you unless you go out of your way to try and cultivate it.

>>7932838
Holy shit, why would she make her toon so ugly?

>>7939290
>white western male "cartoonist" that spends 80% of this time reviewing chink tablets any day of the week.
Crazy that 3 youtubers came to my mind immediately

>>7934563
Qrd?

>>7932847
Because women obsess over youth

>>7932847
Why would anyone draw themselves or their avatar ugly?

>>7932838
It isn't for you guys? Actual video games have become a snooze fest for me and I can't really play em unless I've already drawn several hours already...

>>7941289
Too many people on the board seem to love doing something they hate or care more about shitposting about certain threads, ecelebs, or art styles, I'll never understand it.

>>7933617
similar story here, before discord took off I used to draw on picarto multistreams with people from /ic/
you could only use the chat when at least 1 person was streaming so we all ended up drawing a lot just so we were able to hang out

File: file.png (762 KB, 1121x807)

762 KB PNG

>>7932838
I'm pre/beg/, I really enjoy drawing but from past experiences I have to time myself out, so I won't burn-out.
>pyw
picrel i think i spent the most time on, the measurements are wrong but i had fun drawing it.

>>7933748
>and positive social media reinforcement to
What a soulless creature

>>7942209
This sounds really fun, I wish I had this experience

>>7932888
i like her ara ara drawings of herself, with the nice full lips, paired with her voice.
10/10 would.

drawhags owe me sex

>>7943175
Keep dreaming, you aren't even worth the shit on her ass

>>7943400
That's nasty, anon, why are you like this?

>>7943400
Ok let's calm down a bit, simpanon. I'm sure she will happily sell lowtest faggots like you her bathwater. Or whatever it is people like you do these days to waste money on parasocial relationships.

Notice how everyone who is saying she’s bad has not posted their work. I have nickel to bet that they’re fat retards screeching irl because they’re stuck perma beg. Only on this cesspool will you have people calling her work bad. Getting a fucking grip

>>7933665
90% of retards here just want to get rich quick and think they can get KJG level good in a week if only we told them the secret to drawing good.
They will never accept the secret is just draw, and that it takes thousands of hours of dedication to get even $20 coommissions level good.

>>7934403
You get called a pedo for literally anything nowadays because it's the only insult normies have left. Everything else gets them cancelled for being racist, fagophobic, class traitor, nazi chuds. And even then, people are starting to call pedo accusations transphobic so don't be surprised if suddenly everyone is biting their tongue about actual shady shit soon.

Nobody gives a shit about Epstein, they're just spending their last resource for reckless abuse before it too gets taken away by social censorship.

>>7946165
just like electing trump as president TWICE, but half the nation call him a pedo at the same time. Everything is being orchestrated.

File: 1682091912235267.jpg (123 KB, 1024x366)

123 KB JPG

You want a Get Rich Scheme?

Here.

https://youtu.be/1OSWR7xiQLk?si=zFYmSeY2l1eZSGqK

A scribble and a flow of consciousness composition into Something. I had done a 180 strip story involving rabbit shaped mechs so having one appear in this instance is no coincidence, and this result could be inserted into that story as a new threat to our heroes. Or the personal mech of a rabbit technomancer, a specialist in war machines and out to prove himself (herself?) by being notably heroic and a symbol all those ex slaves in need of an ideal to pursue. Or anything else that I decide. Keep at it until you get something that you want to explore. What you add to the randomized selection of shapes may be the next Big Thing, a meme going viral and a curious public craving more. The results need not be perfect, but it isn't meant to be. This is a tool, one to design the Product you wish to present to the world, well conceived, thoroughly researched by many developmental sketches, and thoughtfully composed. This exercise will give you stuff to "riff" off of, and hopefully things you can find interesting and useful for future attempts as reference material.

Happy hunting!

>>7946134
post your work you fucking simp

File: graph.png (81 KB, 1761x1183)

81 KB PNG

Throughout my journey I have observed that there are two types of people that like to give advice

One is a very talkative person that maybe got a few hits on social media so they start to gain a bit of confidence and faith in their work, they believe they now have what it takes to teach people and would preach in the most obnoxious way even though their art is mediocre at best. You can tell they spend all day polishing turds

The other artist is one who has been through it all, the peak of confidence brought down after observing actual great people. They would spend a long time honing their style until they reach a point where they are satisfied. Then, if asked, or on small occasions would dish out a few words of wisdom here and there.

Using this criteria it's not hard to tell which group people like Pikat belong to

>>7932888
I’m surprised there isn’t more lewds of her OC given how popular she is and how popular this specific girl failure aesthetic has become. Need everyone who lewds Jaidenanimations generic blob to lewd her instead.

>>7948875
>m surprised there isn’t more lewds of her OC given how popular she is and how popular this specific girl failure aesthetic has become. Need everyone who lewds Jaidenanimations generic blob to lewd her instead.
she's not really popular and it's demographic based. Most of the people that lewd jaiden's blob, grew up watching her and it's something you have to keep subtle. Then again, there is a sub-plebbit of nsfw of her blob and it has gotten more popular than her offical sub too, this goes for all female animation blob characters.

>>7948889
She’s got almost a million subs so I’m just surprised. Savannahxyz only has around ~600,000 subs and there’s some really high quality lewds of her OC.

>>7948748
Which category would you consider an artist like James Gurney to fall under? To me he is both an artist who is very studied but also enjoys talking a lot about his processes and the processes of other artists. Your modeling sorta falls flat because it relies on a stereotype of loud neophytes and recluse masters.

>>7948923
shh, let him have it, anon. Let him live his fantasies

>>7948918
I did say it's demographic based. pikat's niche was her being a software engineer that draws on the side and the people that watch her were other people in her field mostly, so you really can't expect much lewd art from that or art in general. Yeah the one you mentioned, she's the typical youtuber girl blob character artist. First saw her on insta(before it went to shit) and the comments were going crazy for the blond oc.

the level of enjoyment - dopamine release - of a given activity is always relative. if you are tortured working 12 hours at mcdonalds a day then drawing will be extremely fun for you. if you spend all day fapping like a retard and spiking your dopamine then drawing will be relatively uninteresting and you will struggle to do it without being distracted.
if you are in your mid 20s or later and still find videogames more engaging than creative activities then i would say give up, it’s over for you. you are not a serious person. you’re part of the vast majority of cattle people who are satisfied being consumers of what others created. that’s ok, but you aren’t going to magically wake up one day and stop being a consumer cattle beast. you will fritter your time away on vidya and netflix until you die. i’ve seen it, there are tons and tons of boomers like this. just get a regular job and try to save money when you can. you are the cog that keeps the economy going round.
if you ever think
>one day my real life will start and i will draw for ten hours a day!
you are already completely deluded and lost a long time ago. it’s already over for you. you could try memory reconsolidation but it’s much too complex for most people.

>>7933081
it’s not old but it’s getting close
“there is not a man who does not get senile by the time he reaches sixty. and when one thinks that he will never be senile, he is already so.”
- hagakure

>>7948923
the recluse master coomes off as a bit exaggerated sorry about that, however there are great artists out there that are very articulate and can express themselves to an audience easily.

Advice from these people is usually the one that sticks and you can tell who is full of bs and who isn't

>>7948009
Kek this nigger got rattled

>>7932838
God I used to watch her livestreams cause she motivated me to draw again but holy shit has her content become so obnoxious, full of beg to low int level drawings

For someone that supposedly grinds all day that's pretty fucking grim.

Turns out if you lack creativity / soul no matter how much technical skill you build up your artwork will stay mediocre. You need to hone your creativity it's just as or more important than tech skill

>>7948953
true

>>7948962
The phenomenon you're describing is one where the truly learned can diagnose problems and relay advice in concise and digestible terms. In contrast the zealous neophyte will use technical language in excess to project knowledge they haven't absorbed yet. You're very right for noticing this, anon.

When I lived in NY I once had the opportunity to talk briefly with James Gurney. His advice to me in regards to studying was to focus less on capturing things exactly as they are and more on capturing the essence of these things correctly. It still remains my Achille's heel to this day but his wisdom grounds me.

>>7948974
>the zealous neophyte will use technical language in excess to project knowledge they haven't absorbed yet
I have to say that I was able to learn or understand some artists from watching videos of people analyzing their process.

These channels don't really have the technical skill to follow up on their observations but the way they were able to relay information was more valuable than youtube artists who only showcase their own art.

File: za.jpg (48 KB, 668x634)

48 KB JPG

>>7939291
english speaking/western nations (primarily europeans) dont concentrate on the superficial, but the substantive parts of the universe.
asians concentrate on the surface level of what they see, and copy it perfectly, but they lack the underlying understanding of WHY it looks that way.
we in the west try to understand the why, and worry about the surface look later.

i dont need a fancy looking sky scraper if its going to be blown over with a summer breeze.

i'd rather have a well founded building that can withstand an earthquake, hurricane, tsunami, etc, later on i can decide to make it pretty, but it must be founded and built up properly first.

the same goes for art, amateur artists in the west have a good understanding of fundamentals, seen from an understanding of the world before us as it is, while the east is more detached from reality, and taps into the fantasy realm, imagination, to create things that aren't there.

>>7950312
I don't see how the last paragraph follows. If Asians are concerned with appearance over substance, wouldn't they be drawing autistic shit like tractors and cityscapes rather than fantasy? It seems to me that the west and east both tap into fantasy, but Asians are obsessed with grinding autistic shit like manga pen cross hatching for monsters and objects while symbol drawing human faces, and westerners are more concerned with gesture, stylization, and non-verbal communication of emotion.

>>7950312
>asians concentrate on the surface level of what they see,
Id argue the opposite with asians, especially east asians, buddhism places a lot of importance on rejecting the superficial, nonpermanent reality of things. The reason why I think asian artists appear to be better than Western artists is simply because they have more resources, many east asian artists can understand English on some level due to a greater incentive to learn the language, which gives them access to the best artbooks from the west. These artvooks are often common enough that they may already be translated into their languages. They also have their own art books that they use, which the average western artist does not have access to either because of proximity or language barriers, Western artists don't have the same incentive to learn Chinese, Korean, etc like east Asians do with English. Chinese kids learn a whole bunch of random skills by taking classes with tutors when they’re young, there isn't an equivalent for that in the west, most artists here are completely self taught. The arts in the west is far more neglected, art classes teach you about the old masters but don't go very deep into the fundies

>>7932847
She's in her 40s

>>7950312
brutalism is peak european

>>7950358
Nah. Asians all like cartoons which means they have a bigger talent pool because they all want to draw anime, and they're also better at autistically grinding. Look at how good they get at stuff like the piano when they're kids. Their parents basically abuse them and when they turn 18 the university abuses them and when they graduate their workplace abuses them. It's that simple. Bigger talent pool+racial/cultural pressure to work themselves to death=good at art.

>>7950375
I agree with you, this is partly what I said. Asian parents pay tutors to teach their kids, the ones that choose art have a greater grasp on fundamentals by the time they reach adulthood compared to the self taught adult western artist who took a art class in high school once and uses pinterest photos for reference. It's important to not downplay the English thing, if a Japanese or Korean artist wants to branch out and get more followers/commissioners from foreign nations understanding English on some level is important, it's the language of trade. English classes are everywhere, it's a common second language. In America languages like Japanese as second languages are a lot more niche (until recently), it's not taught in most k-12 schools. Most people really only learn it to watch anime or play Japanese video games.

>>7932888
>>7933774
You think she shaves or does she let it jungle out down there?

>>7950401
Amazon rain forest

>>7932838
yes