I hate how I have to be suspicious of every single picture and drawing I see now and wonder if it was made by AI. There mere act of looking at art itself has been soiled. Even if I never use AI myself and avoid it as much as possible, it’s still done irrevocable damage and made my life worse.>lol u mad broYes. I am mad. You have succeeded in making me mad. I am confirming that I am mad.
>>7953217Agreed, it's just sad honestly
What makes you mad? Not knowing if it is AI? AI itself in general? Morals?
>>7953217Just turn your brain off and enjoy the end result like 99% of people scrolling social media
>>7953237Saar
The future is grim for artists. All those years spent learning and practicing, just for their data to be harvested then used against them as customers flock to pay third worlders charging pennies for AI art instead. >noo but my SOUL will save me!This will only be true for a small fraction of artist. The majority will see their labor depreciated until they're living like chinese sweat shop workers. All while corporations continue to rake in record profits.
>>7953217>>7953225>>7953246I know anon, it's sadI miss what art and internet used to be, I mis 90s and 2000s art, the struggles, the communities, seeing so much incredible art, all created by humansI highly recommend cara app, I believe it's the last AI free social media
>>7953217The only way for you to be sharp at detecting AI is if you are slopping yourself. Normies won't really be able to detect since the sloppers mostly just use specifc artists artstyle loras whereas the ones most ppl are familiar with are the basic NovelAI or Pony/Flux-based models
>>7953246Nah. Harvesting data and proompting is easy. Anyone can do it, so 'those' markets are already saturated with sloppers. What you do beyond twitterbot posting slop though is anyone's guess. If you don't have any idea for use cases with diffusion models that can make you stand out it'll soon be flooded with copycats.
>>7953262>muh SOULlol
>>7953259>train models to steal people's artstyles and generate images that would take them days to do (with a decade of training) in mere minutes with zero trainingDystopian af, is there any solution or is this just the new norm? Will there be any point to even grinding like Miurata or is the future just going to be which slopper can train models better?
>>7953246Yeah commodity art is finished. Only artists that have something to say (that resonates with the masses) will remain.
What are you guys talking about? We're trending to more human connection than ever before. Physical media, more variety in technology and even scaling back to old hardware. A resurgence of the 90s and 2000s is upon us.
>>7953264It is just the new norm. However, of course it is worth, it; AI is not even close to replacing everything as the CEOs wants you to believe.
another slop thread, rehashing the same boring talking pointskys
>>7953264I've only recently become interested in art so I consider myself untainted by the spiraling of the online art silo to this point. I think there's a future for artists, but you'll need to distinguish yourself from sloppers by showing the process. You also need to be a personality. Half the reason I like any particular piece of art is because I like the artist. If you're just posting shit without these two things you're only gonna make it if your style is truly impactful. If it's not you might as well cheat and use AI.
>>7953272>NOO STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT GIVE ME BAD FEE-FEES, JUST BURY YOUR HEAD IN THE SANDStfu, brainless ostriches like you are the reason we're getting trampled over. The type of moron who inadvertently helps the billionaires by trying to convince everyone that everything is fine and we should just ignore everything.
>>7953276there are zero original thoughts in this threadyou're a parrot repeating shit that's been said to oblivionjust kill yourself and do the world a favor
>>7953273You've hit the nail on the head. The business of art as a commodity will have artists outmoded by AI, but patronage may thrive as an industry as a reaction. Artists who are able to distinguish themselves will be supported by a bigger and more loyal client base than any other artists had experienced in past epochs where patronage dominated.
As far as I understand, the models everyone uses are released by some corpos because training one takes A LOT of drawings and every time you want to add something you have to retrain it from the scratch. I think the AI detection tools can also progress, not to mention sloppers cannot into actual sketches and wips.
Perhaps you should be angry at yourself for enjoying the cheap kind of "art" that is frequently generated by the AI bros. What is art? Social media trends and "fan art" of popular characters drawn by people who are only drawing said characters for clout? You can make an argument that the Christian art from past centuries was just fan art for the same purposes, but there was something else there, something missing from your cheap fast food "art" scene.
>>7953217i have never been confused by an ai drawing. if i am i go "oh that was ai" and i... move on... how are you dooming this hard
>used to really enjoy drawing, pretty much the only thing that brought some fulfilment into my shitty life even though I'm mediocre as hell and never had much of an artistic vision beyond making more images of my favorite characters exist on the internet>2023 rolls around, get cursed with advanced knowledge of stable diffusion workflows and prompting, knowledge grows over the years as work exposes me to it on a daily basis>now every time I bust my ass for several days to finish a single picture I just feel depressed thinking about how anyone could fiddle with some settings and spit out a result in the exact style I want, better than anything I could draw in my life, and indistinguishable from human-made art with minor post-editingAI has soiled a lot of things. I guess I'm too stubborn or too deep into sunk cost fallacy to quit completely, but this amplifies self-doubt about your shit being completely worthless to a cosmic level. I don't know how other waifufags persevere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKzNqacehQQ
>>7953217why come these ai doom and gloom threads never show examples thoughbeitly? if ai images are so great and hard to detect why cant you right click, save image as, and upload it to an image board? are you retarded or sumn? instead you upload an anime still, made by humans...
>>7953597Don't worry, Anon. Making AI images is cucked. Delegating the drawing to a computer is like delegating sex with your wife to a bull.
>>7953668Jeets don't have wives that's why they're so psychotic. Most maidenless country on earth. And they're way too ugly for any women of any other ethnicity, even blacks or abbos, to pick them over their own men.
>>7953692Truly a god forsaken race.
>>7953664I mean you can just go into any AI thread on any board like /a/ or /h/ or whatever and see what people are posting there. It looks legitimately good. If it didn't look good then artists wouldn't be freaking out like they are. Granted it's still mostly restricted to pinup-style images or familiar kinds of stock poses, nothing super original or complex. But... most artists made the majority of their money from pinups anyway.>>7953597Find people who like what you do and appreciate it. Make connections with them. That's what it's really all about in the end.
>>7953217AI is just another tool. You also could be scepticle about photo references (many ppl still think it's cheating), or scepticle of 3d models, or tracing.AI can just produce pretty pictures but ppl also still like real artists if they are good. Not to mention how bad AI is at making comics.
>>7953664Search engine manipulation. Wouldn't it be epic if the art board won't shut up about Ai?You reply. You lose.
>>7953708You absolute nigger pick one (1) image you like and post it. Don’t give me the run around. I went and checked and it all looks the same, I never wanted to do anime girl pinups and never will, as far as I’m concerned I’m fine. Kill yourself.
>>7953722>scepticleGood morning saar
>>7953217If a picture looks good I don't care how it was done.
>>7957087i do and it's retarded not to care if you are into drawing. super retarded.
its relatively easy to spot. i even see portraitists larping with supposed pencil portraita and its all pixelated and unsharp mess where rhe shading and details are. nu human could create that. glorfied faceapp crap, seriously. and then they put a digitized signatuere on it, the same file everytime, further proving that they want to be seen aa artist but arent. its just pathetic>inb4 pywits an old one
>>7953217I have no issue spotting aislop from a mile away, even from a thumbnail I can just tell. Something about the colors and composition often gives it away, among other things. I can't even articulate it, there's just something to human-made art that ai doesn't have. Something beyond empty buzzwords like "soul".I know it when I see it, that's just how it is. I keep scrolling.
>>7957214Pattern recognition and a machine's inevitably predictable set of outcomes, I think. You can't articulate it because it happens subconsciously, you see enough AI art and your brain cottons onto the repeating similarities.I know what you mean. You look at the thumbnail and something about the poses, colours, lighting, composition, etc, it seems familiar in a way, recognizable because you've seen it before.
>>7957214Trust me, you don't. Unless you are stuck in the ai era of 2-3 years ago where everyone used the exact same style and lora. You probably scroll past a ton AI images everyday without noticing.
>>7957456Post one you think is unidentifiable?Yes it can copy any style, but it still always includes some AI-isms, unless you spend time manually cleaning it up afterwards
>>7957475don't bother, hes already been asked to and hasnt delivered. mods should just remove reply bait like this
How do I identify slop portraits? I'm sorta concerned now because I've been looking at portraits on Pinterest for style inspiration. Some are obvious, but now that I think about it, many look way too realistic.
>>7957087I won't piss on you when you're dying of dehydration during the resource wars.
>>7953290Nta but thank you brother. Wish all of you the best. Keep the momentum going. One thing that I do is stay away from these kind of debates as much as possible. So not to pollute my mind with pessimism. Sure it looks bleak right now, dystopian, cruel but nobody here has a crystal ball. Besides the whole promptnerd community is slowly finding out that even most normies hate them and see them for the oportunistic frauds that they are.And as such I guess it's only natural for them to keep using us as the scapegoat and try and gaslight/manipulate us into oblivion. Now if they were actually clever that would be one thing but it's all just the same dishonest arguments and ad-hominems on repeat with these guys.Anyways keep on truckin'. You're all legends to me. Don't let the vultures get you down.
>>7957456Are you going to post an example?
>says only soulful work that is distinct enough will survive>brings up regurgitated topics over and over again ironic innitmaybe if all ai doomsayers worked on something of their own and put it out there with enough conviction, the problem wouldnt be as severe, food for thought>>7957456if all you look at is anime art, then youd see a lot of slop yes. otherwise its very easy to tell when something is fake
>>7957692its no secret that machines can do things, that's the point of a machine. >show someone a huge 2ft hole>tell them you dug it with your hands after 2 weeks>they clap at your dedication>just kidding it was done with a tractor>they are annoyed that you lied just to look cool
>>7957977Not really art but current sloppa does look very real sometimes and you have to zoom in for inconsistencies and logic issues.
>>7958214>Not really art but-i stopped reading here
>>7957501theres those fragments you cant really recreate traditionally and hardly with a digital brush where it doesnt even make sense to look like that. tradlarping ones are easy to spot. incouldnt find a pencil one but look at the """lines"""" in this one for example. there's no rhyme or reason or stroke pattern. this jeet didnt even tag it as slop, but it's easy to tell if you try to make sense of it for a few moments. just be wary. theyre on every website, no exception.
>>7958214hind claw placement
>>7953237Would you not be upset if your local antique market was flooded with counterfeits?
>>7958220Here's your art
>>7958254i dont see whats wrong with this
>>7958264lmafao! you felled for it retard, it's not maded with AI! luddites keep seething
>>7958307weird reply. can you read? still looks generic
>>7958307This doesn't prove shit
>>7958307Hory shiet...
Even games like Stellar Blade use and the director and company used AI for years.https://x.com/jamm3rd/status/2063109100930806049Basicly nobody cares as long as it makes their dick hard, even the X shithole that usually loves to complain
>>7953263A concept foreign to a pajeet, yes.
>>7958820>all rights reservedI thought slop cannot be copyrighted?
>>7958820I've read that (outside of xitter artist spheres) Asia is generally a lot more open and positive towards AI than the West, I believe it. Pretty much every Asian game studio uses it, even Mihoyo has been openly hiring "AI illustrators" for a long while and their products rely a lot more on fandom goodwill and creative works than single player games. Genuinely I think most official gacha illustrations post-2023 can be assumed to be AI with varying levels of refinement.
>>7958882Yeah especially Korean games have been very openly using it for years now and China probably too.In the end the majority won't care if they don't know about it or can't tell. And even if they do especially gacha fans don't give a shit to begin with.
>>7953246The whole complaining about AI stealing art is just stupid to begin with.Smaller artists won't have their art "stolen" or made LoRAs from it anyway. It's not like AI automatically grabs every new drawing they can find and creates a perfect copy from a handful of random small artists.And once you are popular enough or make thousands with your art you don't even have to care of someone makes a bunch of LoRA models.It's not like all the people paying for their patreon or comissions will suddenly flock to the AI copy.
>>7953217It's just going to be another tool, just like 3d models are basicly now baked into drawing software yet people complained about it a decade ago. Or even ctrl+z was too much for people.
>>7958889>Smaller artists won't have their art "stolen" or made LoRAs from it anyway.LoRAS can be made by literally anyone, any time, on consumer grade GPUs, and subsequently civitai has plenty of LoRAS for artists with like ~50 posts on danbooru. Whether this should discourage anyone is another matter but it can and does happen.
youre not artists youre content producers
>>7953279if it were you first, it’d be even greater
>>7958943They are consumer pajeets trying to make a quick buckyou need to remember 50 usd a month on their sloptreon page is an extreme amount of money for them
You really have to doubt everything at this point. It's all so tiresome.
>>7958893I doubt that artstyle loras even matter lol. Like, congrats, you've made a Lora of literalwho or Lora of <<popular artist>>. Okay, now what? Use it for yourself? Whatever you do mate. Or larp as that artist? (lol). I've seen lora of my own artstyle but the civitai example is wildly different (or more like, generic AI generated stuff that you can get from any models) to the point that I thought I could train a better lora of my own artstyle than whoever this guy does (and I did!). I think the more useful one is training character loras on small niche vtuber where their designs are overdesigned and I can't be fucking bothered to learn them for a one-off commission.
>>7957456The ones who can spot sloppers uses AI themselves for any kind of reason. It's pretty easy to recognize, the human brain is made for pattern recognition. But of course, normies won't be able to recognize.
I pretty much only care about trad art anyway. To me all digital artists are cheaters. Sadly society doesnt seem to think this way tho. They still love digital and avoid trad.
>>7959337>care about trad arttrad art is shit, people don't like it.people don't follow trad artists, because it's boring. only digital art is profitable
>>7961335I do love trad (I draw on paper whenever possible), but trad painting is very strongly associated with landscapes and realistic portraits only. Either that or weird abstract shit. Rightly or wrongly people just perceive it as more limited than digital.
>>7953246I have decided to go kafka and destroy all my art before it can be used in future. only handful of people have ever seen any of my physical works, and I intend to keep it that way.
>>7953217This image, entitled "Where the Witness Ends" was generated with AI. There's a deliberate use of composition used to express ideas.I got the idea for this when I was high on over 100mg of THC. I was pondering the non-experience of death and the possible cessation of all subjectivity and first-person perspective. I deliberately made sure that the viewer couldn't see the whole tree because, beyond the frame, there is nothing. The veil between life and death is pierced through and then you and I shall know nothing and will perceive time or anything else any longer as our consciousness ceases altogether and our bodies begin to decompose.I'd like to hear you explain why this is not art.
>>7964120You're gay and retarded
>>7964120AI reduces the cost of exploration, but in all honesty...this is unappealing to look at even at the surface level. Which shit model did you use that creates a lot of those rock artifacts? I've always seen AI as it reduces the cost of exploring an idea but it could only be ever as good as whoever's doing the thing. You could spend an hour with inpainting and the usual tunnel vision creeps in, you zoom out and realize the big picture is total horseshit. And you faggots dont even bother to write your own post without Gippity-chan holding your hand. Fags on Pixai does more appealing stuff.
>7964120>Sloppa generated post with sloppa generated image. I ain't worrying though online AI wrappers are starting to die since SpaceX IPO is pushing OpenAI/Anthropic to IPO sooner while there's still some exit liquidity. Was convenient to gen some basic marketing materials with Gemini though instead of spending hours when my payroll is better off with engineering shit instead of marketing fluff.
>>7964120your personal evaluation of what art is to be a facsimile of classics and to act like what you think an art snob acts like and isn't a true expression of your personal beliefs because you would be worried that you sound like even more of a dumbass than you already do if you were honest with yourself and your situationalso it looks like shit retard
>>7953454This is actually a good point. AI art will never be taking seriously in a Catholic setting and since so many people are now returning to Catholicism, those who can tap back into the source of Christian art will be rewarded for their efforts.
>>7964674I used to hold out similar hopes that “tradcath” types might be able to defend and preserve some sort of notion of traditional human culture, but I’ve since been disillusioned. They’re traitors. Most “trad” types are either a) senile boomers who think AI is pretty neat and don’t see what the big deal is because they’re going to be dead soon anyway, or b) younger /pol/ types who think that the entire idea of “high art” itself is leftist propaganda and AI art is a great way to own all the pink-haired commie artists and keep them from making money on art commissions.No one actually gives a shit about art besides artists themselves. Religious types are no better on this issue than anyone else.
>>7964120>I'd like to hear you explain why this is not artIt's not art cause you did the misfortune of mentioning it was AI Generated. If you left that detail out suddenly the art has a soul then.
>>7964745It’s still not that great even if a human made it. The background is 10/10 and the atmosphere is great, but the woman looks kinda weird for my tastes, and the ground is covered in… I don’t know what, looks like chainlink fence or something lol
>>7964759>a chainlink fenceThat's an interesting observation and it does not necessarily damage its thesis. The foreground texture may be visually awkward, but it can be interpreted in a way that reinforces the thesis: it resembles a lattice or fence, suggesting that consciousness approaches death through a barrier it can perceive but never cross as an observer.
>>7964183Fair criticism on the figure and foreground texture. I agree those are the weakest parts. But that’s a critique of execution, not proof that the image cannot function as art. My claim was never that the rendering is flawless; it was that the composition was chosen to express a specific idea about death, subjectivity, and the edge of the frame as the end of experience.
>>7964929It doesn’t suggest any of that, you’re just a dumb nigger and no one wants to look at AI slop.High school level of understanding of art btw, “symbolism” is just busy work invented by English teachers so kids have something to write essays about
>>7953217Congratules. You discovered the point of the LLM psyop.
>>7953217That's just the death throes of civilization.>everyone is grifting because that makes money>everyone is cheating because it's now easier than ever>no integrity or honesty allowed unless you want to instantly fail at everything>everyone is aware of it or does it but denies it because that would expose them and it's bad optics>the consumerpiggies just want to eat the slop and get excited for next slop>the only way to do anything now is join the cancer and become part of the problem or die>reasonable, sane and honest people are driven out of any facet of society so you're only left with the scumI am not mad, i am tired that i have to adapt to and share my planet with these subhumans.
>>7964120The biggest problem is it's boring and plastic and you have to over explain the symbolism otherwise it just looks like a generic AI image with strange composition and artifacts.>but real art can also be shallow and uglyTrue.
>>7964936>“symbolism” is just busy work invented by English teachers so kids have something to write essays about.What the fuck do you even like about art?>>7965043That's not even real crticism. I have never seen anybody else make an AI generated image with a deliberate composition. And I pretty much have to explain it because most people, including people on this board, wouldn't be able to recognize composition if it fucked their wives and kicked them in the nutsac.
>>7965835Okay, this is fucking hilarious. I didn't even notice the figure has an extra arm and there are two lines pointing directly at it.this diagram accidentally proves the exact criticism it was meant to rebut.
>>7964120All I would have gotten from this, without your explanation, "woman grieves someone's death". Which is not the worst idea in terms of subject matter, and is more interesting than most of the shit I see posted here. But then there's the unexplained focus on the landscape and the tree, which only serve to distract from the main subject. Is she praying to the tree? It's weird.You talk lots about composition but the first and most important rule in composition is simplicity over everything. Complexity and originality aren't worth shit if nobody gets it.You should design more for impact than for ideas. Keep it simple.There should be a hierarchy in composition. Not all ideas are created equal. Some parts of the picture are more important than others. Bring focus on the important things and away from the non-important. Your generated picture has no hierarchy, no focus, and every part of the composition seems to be competing for attention and have the same level of detail, which only serves to make everything flat and dull.I would simplify the background and either get rid of the tree or relegate it to the background. Bring the woman and the gravestone to the middle and into focus. Stop thinking about abstract gay nonsense like "veils" and "conscíousness" which nobody will get and focus on the main thing. Woman and gravestone. Drugs don't make you deep, they only make you stupid.
>>7965835>What the fuck do you even like about art?You are REALLY just reinforcing the stereotype that AI techbro jeets don't know shit about art lmao
>>7965947They don't know shit about coding either. Just "agentic engineering" which is just Openclaw running Claude on loop.
>>7953258>CaraI only visited the site once and nothing in it appeals to me, I find more interesting in Twitter the only thing I hate is that Twitter is a very political site. Everyone has some lame opinion on something.
>>7953217Ai generation sucks but also made some artist show their colors. I remember a few years ago various artist agreed to surveillance tools to be displayed just to track who does and doesn't make gen AI.
>>7953217Either I like it or I don't, simple as.
The good thing is it's getting so advanced it will steal every job so it's not just artists now
>>7964120this is why art has been gatekept for thousands of years
>>7958214For photorealistic images you just need to think about it critically the same way you would with something written. People tell bullshit stories all the time and you'll think "and then everybody clapped." Now you need to analyze the context of newer images. Why wouldn't the kittens be upset? Why would someone be taking this picture at this angle?Also the cat's hind foot and the placement of the dog's right ear are fucked.
>>7965881>All I would have gotten from this, without your explanation, "woman grieves someone's death".You're not as smart as you think you are. Everything you see in that piece is a necessary part of a symbolic structure. If I did follow your advice and reduce it to just the woman and the gravestone: it would not express the ideas I intend. this is not a picture of a sad clown or some tasteless Thomas Kinkaid kitsch meant to be decor, It's meant to be studied.>>7966935Well, now it's democratised for people who find it too complicated to draw and paint. Deal with it.
>>7967907>Well, now it's democratised for people who find it too complicated to draw and paint. Deal with it.Literally no one will ever respect you or think you're an artist lol, everyone hates AI art.>"I'll just say I painted it myself, people won't be able to tell the difference!"Ok so you're admitting that you're just lying and taking credit for things you didn't actually accomplish, nice.
>>7967914>"I'll just say I painted it myself, people won't be able to tell the difference!"Bruh.. I never said anything remotely like that.
>>7967907>it would not express the ideas I intend. tThe point is that your "ideas" are worth absolute shit. They're nothing. You're nothing, and nobody will "study" your least effort garbage.
>>7968896>nobody will "study" your least effort garbageA future intelligence will study the great 2020s AI explosion.
>the artist in question has no tag on DanbooruIf you have no tag on that website you are not a real artist.
>>7969877I know this is bait, but if you want an artist tag on danbooru, practically speaking the best way to go about it is simply pumping out AI-traced (obvious, but unprovable if you've got a modicum of prior drawing experience) 1girl solo ass_focus white_background of gacha girls. 95% of uploaders do not care about anything else and will fight each other to the death in a snake pit to be the first to get their name on these kinds of images.
>>7969877Ah yes, only 30% of all drawfags on the internet are artists, marvelous.
>>7953217anon, AI art is just corn syrup. just like with cane sugar, people who have a genuine passion will pay a premium for the real thing if you make it available to them, if you give up entirely, then the sea of slop will drown the consumer completely.true, you've lost the general audience, but they were never fans of art to begin with, they just wanted something pretty to look at and paying artists used to be the only way to achieve that.you should be thankful for AI because it's finally separated the casual soulless consumer and profit-chasing jew artist from the genuine craftsmen and art appreciators.
>>7965012>Monstrous imagery>Their example is literally just a child with bracesLmao what a pussy you have to be if this terrifies you
>>7970080Danbooru mods are witch hunters. They will not approve your upload because your websites look suspicious (fresh accounts without old work). Real artists improve and change over time. Ai artists don't.
>>7967907you are a stupid nigger
>>7970192Nope, if it looks ""good"" and doesn't have obvious AI artefacting it'll get through the queue eventually even if it's the most generic slop in existence. I see dozens of post-2023 "artist" tags like that every day. The site has around 50 jannies and it takes only one of them to approve a post.
>>7970268Just be sure to not fuck up like Asamichan
>>7953246this is why i have swapped over to learning trad art in the long term, a physical object you can purchase and put in your home is harder to do with AI unless its some shitty printout
>>7967907>Well, now it's democratised for people who find it too complicated to draw and paint. Deal with it.imagine getting intellectually destroyed by grug the caveman who drew a buffalo on a wall
>>7970304Democratization of X is a meme. Not everyone should be a doctor, or an engineer, or a physicist, or an electrician.
>>7964120>I'd like to hear you explain why this is not art.Because it's not made by a human being. A pleasing looking stone, forged by the winds and abrasions of time, is not a piece of art (even if we may figuratively say as much, to make a plea for its beauty). Art is something made by a human, end of story.That said, the image you showed isn't even nice to look at. Overly busy tasteless shit.>So you're saying you won't call an image you like 'art', just because it's made with AI?Yes. What's so hard to understand? It's a prerequisite for me.In fact, like many others, even if I like an image, I'll like it considerably less the moment I realise it wasn't made by a human. Part of the charm and appreciation I have for art is the skill and effort it took to make such a piece.Your garbage example likely had little effort placed into it beyond the constant re-rolls on the prompt.>>7964708Then lead by example.
>>7953217I remember being fed up with porn long before AI, everyone was drawing fanart and porn all the time it was so fucking tiring. What do you draw? fanart and porn huehuehue!!!! Whenever I complained about the state of things I was told>u y mad??? u want teh likez??? if u draw for teh likez ur not a rEaL ArTiSt!!!!!Turns out I'm a real artist cause I stopped posting art and I still enjoy drawing without sharing a fucking thing. I was laughing so fucking hard when AI happened and everyone went on suicide watch because the internet is flooded with porn sloppa indistinguishable from the shit you're putting on patreon. Don't you just enjoy drawing for the heck of it like real artists? lmao
>>7970388'Democratization' just means 'the people who actually produce the data that feeds the machine no longer get paid for their work'. The host is sucked dry by a parasite, so artists can't afford to create, and the rest of humanity subsists on a diet of slop. Not sure what's supposed to be democratic about that, except that everyone loses.
>>7970427>everyone loses.99% of people are happy with what AI can currently produce (porn). They will happily read and jack off to AI porn. Average people never had any standards for "art", only pretended to, because being well-educated mattered to fitting in socially, but education has no inherent value any longer. All that matters today is to be an obedient little moo moo all the time so people are finally free to pursue what they truly love. AIjeets claim that AI will get better eventually, but they're wrong. AI will never have to get better, people are already so fucking dumb and have such shit taste they're perfectly fine. If AI will degrade from regurgitating its own shit, that's not a problem because normalshits will just adapt. Every new generation is a little dumber than the previous so there's no bottom limit to how shitty things can get when the world is in the hands of literal apes
>>7970429You mean they get their dopamine hit. This soulless shit absolutely gets depressing if you keep consooming it for extended periods of time. It can't replace art in terms of helping people find meaning in their life. Even with porn the things that stick with you are those few experiences where something personal comes through in the artwork.What I'm saying is that we had it way better jorkin it to flash games than the sad shit teenagers are exposed to on the internet now. They won't be "perfectly fine" at all.
>>7970436>This soulless shit absolutely gets depressing if you keep consooming it for extended periods of timeFor who? For you, maybe. Normalcattle never gets tired of eating shit. We've had what, 20 years of marvelslop now and it's never gonna end. They're just gonna reboot shit until the sun burns out, adding more and more niggers as whites die out. Dude average people think even marvelslop is too weird, they watch fucking sports, SPORTS, the most boring, repetitive and fucking soulless shit imaginable, and they love every second of it, they care about their team of literal whos like it's their family, they gamble on it because cattle love to gamble, and when they want to feel smart they watch dogshit Netflix slows as the only remnant of that "look how cultured I am" I mentioned before, because they actually fucking perceive Netflix shows an something interesting and sophisticated they can accessorize unto themselves. You make this fundamental mistake in thinking that everyone is human when there's almost no humans left, and we're not even ready for when the tablet zombie kids will grow up into turbo monkeys with ADD
>>7970429>99% of people are happy with what AI can currently produce (porn).I disagree, I think the majority of people don't even care for AI porn. Look at /gif/, it's majority human content, and if they were happy with AI, there'd be no need for any other type of thread, and it'd be nothing but different AI topic threads.And as for the human threads that are there, usually people are quite unhappy with AI slop being posted in them.And even this late in AI's life, they still get posts in the AI threads where people express how unhappy they are with AI.So I think the 'most people like AI' argument I see sometimes is cope. If most people like AI, then there's no need to hide when a project (like a videogame, or music) is made with AI, or for AI content 'creators' to pretend they actually made their work.If AI content was labeled and known as such, we all know it'd be poison to its sales and perception, and it's not because of artists being butt mad, it's because even the normies don't like AI.
>>7970448>the majority of people don't even care for AI porn>Look at /gif/>people>it's majority human contentAnon I'll try not to insult you but first of all, the bunkertrannies who raid /gif/ with niggered shit day and night aren't human. Second, 4chan is not representative of the average person, the kind of person who doesn't even know what 4chan is. That person uses ChatGPT on a daily basis. In fact I literally just fucking told someone that the answer he got from ChatGPT was wrong, and ChatGPT was literally making shit up, then he asked again and ChatGPT changed the answer and he was very confused. I think even the most despicable apelike nigger I berate on 4chan is above a normie, normies are truly the worst thing in the world except maybe jews
>>7970427LLMs/Neural networks copies or replicates an output, but that is not a drop-in replacement for the processes and decisions that leads to said output.Sooner or later you'll stumble upon the doorman's fallacy.>>7970445All this for shit he made up in his depressing mind. Unbelievable
>>7970467>doorman's fallacyNah, these are just growing pains, as with the 'reality gap' in robotics. It's not some impossible barrier, just a question of automating the implementation in a more finegrained way. Like I said, I do see this as all being a net-negative in the long term, but right now it's free money.
>>7970477Yeah sure, growing pains in your own head. I guess if you're not doing anything with your life everything looks like big, pointless nihilism.
>>7970490>it's just in your head bronigger we're fucked. the 21st century AI surveillance state is coming. everything will be predicted and nudged, the vast majority of real jobs will be automated and you will only survive if you play along with whatever retarded fake social system our dear leaders build on top. if you want to believe you have agency to feel better about that be my guest, but you'll see soon enough which way the wind is blowing.
>>7970498>the 21st century AI surveillance state is comingAll thanks to normalshits. I am sure I will suffer and I might have to kill myself but I hope everyone else will suffer orders of magnitude more than I. I hope parents will see their families crushed, I hope that even those cow brains will be able to know despair and regret for the shit choices they've endorsed all along. I fucking hate normies so fucking much it's unreal. The way they support the worst possible thing in the worst possible way every fucking time fucking mathematically is fucking unbelievable, it's like they do it on purpose. FUCK normies holy fucking shit. I was wrong in the last post, there is definitely nothing worse in this world than a fucking normie ape. Fucking disgusting all of them
