I'm comfortable with saying that I have some natural talent for writing. I'm not a published author or anything, but professors have told me that my writing is beautiful, I've won awards from writers' communities, etc. In the same way there were kids in school who were "good at drawing", I was always the kid who was "good at English class".Occasionally I've had people ask me how they can get as good at writing as I am. I never know what to say to them. I'm not trying to crab them, I just honestly have nothing to tell them, no concrete steps they can follow. I never had to consciously work at developing my verbal ability, not even for a second. I've done quite a lot of reading and writing throughout my life, but I never once thought of it as "work" or "practice" or "study". It's all just stuff that I was naturally going to do anyway. My mind seems geared towards absorbing verbal structures via osmosis without really having to put any effort into it.With drawing my situation is totally the opposite. After years of repeated failure, it's clear to me that not only do I lack talent for drawing, but I rather have something like anti-talent: drawing is even harder for me than it is for the average person. I'm used to being good at most things I do, wondering why other people are struggling to catch up, but now the shoe is on the other foot: now I'M the "dumb kid in class", now it's all the talentfags at drawing who are looking at ME and wondering why I can't catch up, effortlessly gliding along and doing things in their sleep that for me are hopelessly complex.(cont.)
>>7962868(cont.)I don't really have a point to all this, outside of just realizing the depth of how hopelessly fucked I am. If an "average" person asked me how to become a good writer, I would just laugh at them. If you're not already OBVIOUSLY talented by your teens, you're never going to get there, no matter how much work you put into it. You're either born with it or you're not. The words have to come effortlessly to you, it has to be your default way of thinking. And I suppose it's the same with drawing. You can put in massive amounts of effort and maybe grind out a drawing or two that are passable, but you'll never really "get" it, you'll never LIVE in it, it'll never become natural and effortless for you. Your brain is either wired for it or it's not.I'm not actually going to give up, but it's easy to feel discouraged sometimes.
>>7962868this fag again? didn't you give up and start using AI?
>>7962879You have me confused with someone else. I am the most anti-AI person alive, I will absolutely never use it for anything, especially drawing.
>>7962882Is that so? Well crying about talent is a waste of time, go draw.
>>7962868Being good at writing to me has a lot to do with reading and consuming stories. For you it maybe has been a hobby since childhood, but that's not the case for everyone. There never were any books to read at home when I grew up. All I read was just manga. I didn't even know where to start with books, because I had no idea what kind of authors are out there. It's a bit complicated to get into books, because it's difficult to know what kind of authors you like, unless you already read a bit of them. With manga this is easier, because you can just take a quick look at the artstyle and already see if you like it or not.I actually had to teach myself first what kind of authors are out there. The internet was a huge help with this. Then I also was able to start reading.Another thing is also understanding story structure. If you don't understand how a good story is usually structured, then you also can't write a good story yourself.With drawing it's similar. You first have to understand how pespective works before you can draw anything 3 dimensionally. You need to learn about process, anatomy, style, how to draw clean lines, etc. Step by step you are adding building blocks, until you have enough knowledge about the fundamentals. It's not rocket science. It just takes a lot of time.
My friend recently improved immensely at writing from HS-level bad to could become pro short-story writer (as in publishable in magazines) if he applied himself. All he did was read a lot for 2 years.Maybe you can become a pro artist from only doing artist copies but I also have my doubts.
>>7962869The brain can be rewired but it takes consistent effort over a number of years.Also you need to reframe your identity and larp as either someone who's talented or someone who enjoys working hard and improving, eventually one day it'll click into place. Perhaps you'll always play catchup to people who always had IT but it's not something out of your grasp to become habit or second nature.
>>7962869>>7962868>>7962869The average human brain is not naturally "wired for drawing" just like how it isn't wired for reading or writing. There are many people who are gifted readers or storytellers as young as two or even three.Most people who are born with a talent for drawing are usually dyslexic, as dyslexic brains result in 3D thinking. Dyslexia is a spectrum with it being very common in people with ADHD (and by extension, Autism due to the two being closely related) and Language Disorders. If you want to improve at art, you have to force your brain to start thinking in 3D and build up a visual library in your head:>Trace references. Break them down into shapes and forms.>Study household objects that are cuboid and spherical: furniture, shoes, toys, cups, etc.>Grind a bunch of shapes and lines and arcs.>Do a shit ton of blind contours.>Spend several minutes, if not half hour to hour chunks of time just observing a subject.>Copy everything.>Draw from memory, draw with a reference, then compare the results.>Be consistent.You can improve at drawing with just these habits. I have Autism with mild dyslexia and my drawings fucking sucked until I figured out the above stuff. Anyone can do anything they want as long as they have a growth mindset and the right support. Improve your attitude and take what I have given you.
>>7962882You will improve anon. It is okay to feel discouraged, but do not dwell in it. I myself was in the same boat as you, naturally gifted for reading and storytelling. I was dogshit at drawing for the longest time and I thought I would never improve and that I was just "bad at it" and had anti-talent. I struggled for years because I wasn't learning correctly and I had no one to actually show me the right path to improve. I was "okay" at it in high school but I felt so discouraged with my lack of growth that I gave up for nearly five years.I have been consistently drawing for three years since and I am very happy with my development compared to my high school stuff.
everyone thinks theyre good at writing. Just practice
>>7962868>>7962869I'm not gonna read all of that.
>>7963421I get that a lot, yeah. Most people find it very tiring to read large (or even just slightly-longer-than-average) volumes of text. Do you think that’s ever likely to change, in your case? That’s exactly my point.
