>hide started at 25That by itself should prove that age doesn't matter and you can make it no matter when you start.
>>7963171I started art when I was 16 and now I just turned 18 a week ago. I still feel like I'm not going to make it or ngmi. I should've taken drawing more seriously when I was 10.
How about I'm going to hide your thread?
>>7963177do it fag
>>7963177Not sure why the truth makes you so angry but ok
>>7963171He went pro in 4 years. I've been going for almost 6 years and I'm still low beg. Age doesn't matter, but talent does.
>>7963171>I'm..I'm turning 30 next week
>>7963177Lol, you're so fucking mad. Typical /beg/.
>>7963177>>7963191all this proves that perma/beg/s are just lazy shitters that don't even want to fucking draw.
>>7963171I started at 33!
>>7963171when people say they started "seriously" they mean they've been drawing their whole life but chose that arbitrary point as the "real" start
>>7963344this. plus he's trying to sell himself, so he will exaggerate/downplay stuff to make his progress seem better.
>>7963344>>7963348Taking art serious automatically meants he wasnt some meme child prodigy and did the lionshare of his improvement as an adult. This ofcourse is never good enough for /ic/ so you keep looking for the ever elusive " started at complete zero at 30+ and went pro" unicorn to cope with the fact you only draw 20 mins a day once a week and still wonder why you a fucking /beg/.
>>7963368you're wasting your time. Most people on here think taking art seriously means doing one single 6 hour session and fucking around on /ic/ for the rest of the week talking about theory rather than actually practicing
>>7963372You didn't have to call me out like that... sheesh
>>7963368perma/beg/s that missed out on the childhood gains need proof they can get out of /beg/ as an adult. they won't be convinced with fake examples. OP shouldn't make claims he can't actually back up.
>it-it-its never too late, r-right?
>>7963191Most people have no idea how to practice things. I only began to understand between 23-26.Nobody in my life taught me this shit.You need to know1. What there is to know/whats skills there are in the craft2. What do you lack of 1. that hinders you from getting the results you want3. which excercises/studies teach those things4. what you need to focus on during that excercise/study. What keeps people permabeg is them only knowing point 3 and spamming boxes and animecopies while basically being an unconcious drone that gets nothing out of it. Thats like singingalong with a song you can't even hear, thinking it will turn you in to a great singer or trainingan LLM only on the dictionary expecting it to form sentences.Example:>Well for 2D anime just knowing shape langueage is enough!Missing point 1 and 2: Not even knowing that shape language is interconnected with other things.If you know form and shape language you can show form using shape language for example.You can spam your brain with enough shape language until every single possible appealingshape is burned in to your subconcious. That's how some people brute force progress and peoplewith talent can even succeed like this, but most normal people will never be happy with their skills if they learn like that. Dont learn every possible poligon to show a thigh, learn the volume of the thigh and apply your learned intuition for shapes to caputre that form in 2D. Conciously focus on what you want to learn during practice. That combined with repetition willmake that aspect of drawing more automatic. Mastery is being able to do everything subconciouslyso you can only focus on what you want to draw
>>7963381What “childhood gains”?The average “kid who’s good at drawing” never makes it past mid-high /beg/ on their own; it’s not until they start seriously studying perspective/anatomy in their teens that they actually start making serious progress. I think you’re overestimating the head start that aimless childhood drawing gives you, because /beg/s are able to catch up to that point within 6-12 months tops.The prodigies like Murata who are already drawing at a pro level in their teens are rare.
You guys are coping hard. Some guys are just good. Like right out of the gate they can nearly perfectly copy things by eye. They have to erase a lot and the result has no style, but it looks mid/high int on their first drawing. I've seen it myself. There's just a lot of diversity in how our brains work and a portion of the population just has "it" for drawing. They literally see the world differently and they can imagine forms and proportions without training. I'm not saying they don't need to work hard, but they get to skip the long arduous phase where you train your brain to see things accurately.
>>7963464Nobody is denying talent exists you fucking retard
>>7963464“Seeing things accurately” isn’t an accomplishment though. It’s just step 1 out of 100. It’s really not that much of a head start at all, because plenty of untalented monkeys can learn how to make accurate copies. It’s AFTER you can copy things and start trying to draw from imagination that things get hard, and that’s where a lot of people stall out.
>>7963171I can still make it after 10 years of thinking about of success and starting at age 40
kek this board is like /v/ if it were more retarded and less related to the topic
>>7963486Half of /v/ is literally just porn spam. At least people actually talk about art here. Even if they are retarded sometimes
>>7963486
I don't get it. You got an entire country of animators, hundreds of studios, thousands and thousands of shows that have been released since the 1980s with over 80 to 100 releases every 4 months and the only people who have authority on anime instruction in the entire country of Japan is this "Hide" guy and Anime Private School. It makes no sense at all. There should be so many Japanese giving their insights but that isn't the case at all. It's all outside of Japan.
>>7963510There are definitely other Japanese people putting out art books/videos. Saitou Naoki’s youtube channel for example
>>7963530It's not that many. I've fished around in the Japanese side for a number of years in each category there's only 1 really loud voice with a book and maybe a video course consisting of powerpoint slides and drawing ontop of the slides (a style of teaching that seems to be a Japanese only thing).
>>7963510other people that give insights are the old people that still work in-studio. They give it face to face.
>>7963171>this proves that age doesn't matter>...>this actually proves that it's all about talent
>>7963344which is fair you wouldn’t say a doctor “started” his medical career in pre-k when he was playing the board game operation
>>7963171>at 25>age doesn't matterLets see his illustrations, oh wait... KEK
>>7963486/v/ is more retarded but also more fun./ic/ is just bombarded with endless fucking schizoids and seethe
>>7963570The schizoids are what make it comfy though. The board culture is always defined by whatever schizos make up the current regular cast of characters. It’s been fun watching them come and go over the years
>>7963576the only way to make /ic/ fun is to turn on fappe tyme and only see posts with imagestext posters have never contributed anything of value to /ic/ literally ever
>>7963578i found out about cgp here and it was in time to create an acc :P
>>7963171>started seriouslyok and when did he start non seriouslyt. 31yo turbo perma prebeglet
>>7963470>plenty of untalented monkeys can learn how to make accurate copies.This is naive. Maybe 70 to 90 percent of people that try drawing seriously are never able to accurately copy anything. Go look at any art community. The overwhelming majority are drawing fucked up faces and bodies and they have no idea why it looks like shit.
>>7963628I started at 27. Its not that hard.... t. 30yo also I been lazy as shit and only do like 1 drawing a week lol. Imagine if I actually was actually consistent, I would probably be mid /pro/ but im just a low /int/...Anyways, my advaice is Bridgeman and study the core basics ie (Value, Perspective, and later composition) and draw what you want to draw. Instead of doing boring plain studies, draw once you have a generic figure down (for your study) make that figure into a character you like etc. You have to have fun with it. Oh and always push yourself to learn. If you start getting comfortable, you need to start studying new things you are afraid of.
>>7963171>seriously startedshould we tell him?
>>7963446>The average “kid who’s good at drawing” never makes it past mid-high /beg/ on their ownlow iqit doesn't matter what percentage of drawing kids made it, what matters is what percentage of artist who made it were drawing as kids>the average pedophile never went to epstein's island>that means people who go to epstein's island aren't pedophiles???
>>7963578you're replying to a text poster, so clearly you have it either disabled or you're parroting shit you've heard but never tried yourself.
annuda nodraw slide thread that will be spammed by demoralization bots
>>7963576>paying more attention to seasonal mentally ill NGMI kun no. 375 than the artwork /ic/ doesnt hate permabegs enough
>>7963648go back to your containment board, kike shill
>>7963648?? The entire reason I made the thread was to motivate people
>>7963661Hide has the advantage of attending hidden leaf village no jutsu secret technique vocational school to learn Kong Wong Fu Anime style while getting an old geezer to whisper sweet nothings in his ear on the job for a few years while we as foreigners get the droplets from the faucet.
>>7963171>seriously started studyingso he was drawing way before thenwhy is this a thread?
>>7964259op needs an external refutation of his fears for comfort because his own progress doesn't cut it
>>7963171it's usually too late because you lack free time after 20
>>7963504You can apply that advice to every board.>>7963486The most on topic boards are slow ones like /po/. >>7963635>BridgemanThis and >Fun With a Pencil : Loomis, Andrew
>>7963635Copy Bridgman 2x or tenten's book 2x, your choice but you gotta put in the work, which you monkeys won't so fuck off.
>>7964302No one on this board lacks free time though. They’re always complaining about how they spend hours every day looking at porn and masturbating
>>7964434Sure but the meme that things become impossible to learn after 20-25 is partially true because normalfags have no free time after 18 since that's when they start working, going to college, raise kids, etc. They also lack neuroplasticity. It obviously doesn't apply to 4chan autists.
>>7964309Bridgman's Complete Guide to Figure Drawing and Anime Human Body Structure by Shi Tong and TC Chen?
>>7963218I'm drawing for at least 3 hours every day you retard.>>7963410Thanks, but your advice doesn't help. I've gone back and forth between studying every fundamental except for color and seen little to no improvement in the past 4 years. I think one of the reasons why people like me become stuck is because they are unable to learn correct observation and to copy something with 90-100% accuracy, which is a skill most successful artists possess naturally or pick up within a year of drawing. I still haven't been able to learn it in all the years I've been drawing.
>>7963171I dont believe this.>that's when i started...seriously This is dead giveaway. Let me translate>I was always into it since childhood, then at age 25 I started doing it for 8-10 hours as opposed to 3-4 hours of non serious decade long scribbling I did since I was a child
>>7964814As I already explained in >>7963446 time just randomly spent doodling as a kid doesn’t mean much.It’s true that we don’t have hide’s work from his teens to see how good he was then, but, I’ve never seen any serious counterexamples outside of a few rare prodigies.
>>7963177Based. Fuck talented drawniggers who suck off hide, krenz and whatever other magic pill Chinaman they huff .
Time is a limited resource, so one should focus effort in its restrictions. Ask yourself what you can produce in a week. A bit of a larger project, several smaller ones, all leading to some greater goal.
