I feel extremely insecure about wanting to paint pretty women while being a man myself. How do I overcome that self-imposed anxiety and accept that a manly man can love pretty princesses? I bench 225 lbs. so I don't even know why I like this shit in the first place
>>7964394autists can paint their obscure fetish porn under the full legal name with no shame at all, get over yourself. no one cares. plenty of pros only paint pretty women.
>>7964394A manly man paints whatever the fuck he wants lil bro. Are you an insecure chuddy fuck? You bring that same energy to bedroom and watch a woman get drier than jerky in a smokehouse. Do whatever the fuck you want, but whatever you do, you own that shit. Pussies that attack from the shadows can't attack that which does not give a fuck
>>7964397theres a reason fashion designers are assumed to be all gay anon
>>7964399You clearly don't understand the raw sexual energy that being a masculine man in a traditionally feminine role brings. Drives bitches crazy if you pass their shit test on your confidence, because they will press you, as will insecure men, but if you show you truly don't give a fuck, it makes everyone respect you immediately. At least, the ones of higher social status. Low tiers want a man to beat them because they're insecure about their small pp and take every slight as emasculation and threat to their masculinity. Gotta beat her to make her feel loved or something. People enslaved by the cycle of emotional, mental and financial poverty or something. Anyways.
>>7964402>You clearly don't understand the raw sexual energy that being a masculine man in a traditionally feminine role bringsi really dont, im not saying there is none, i just never looked at it from that perspective, mostly because experience says that women only respect men who are tough and hard, the whole soft and compassionate man is something they ultimately detest because thats the traits they want to possess themselves, not see in their partners
men are attracted to pretty women. Drawing and painting them is a logical inference and is a millennia-old practise.I have zero ideas how that would make you insecure.
>>7964407Out of curiosity, what would you think if you saw an artwork like pic rel and knew it was made by a grown man? What would your assumption be, if you were to disconnect yourself from the premise of this thread and judge the image in isolation?
>>7964405Oh, yeah you're coming from a completely different view in life, because you automatically assume it means soft and compassionate. I think the take away here is this. If you react with anger or defensiveness to criticisms about you doing something that YOU want to do, you validate the critic and show you are easily shaken and insecure. If you handle it with humor, indifference, or calm confidence, you completely disarm the criticism. It establishes high social status because it shows you dictate your own worth, rather than letting others dictate it for you. Also known as big dick energy. All this means shit though, coming from a rando on 4chan, but one day you'll die, and you'll back at things like this, and you'll realize how retarded you were for not owning what you wanted to do.
>>7964394Masculine men only draw lolicon. Women are for betas.
>>7964440Based, next order of business?
>>7964394Utterly deranged thing to be worried about.Just draw what you want
>>7964411I would think that he’s based and I would want to shake his hand
>>7964411Unfortunately I get the feeling this might be sloppa
>>7964445The next step to manliness is to objectify the foid.
>>7964411I know like 4 people that I have added on discord, 3 of which are girls, that would want to be your friend and think you're insanely skilled. If you're also built on top of being above average they'd probably fall in love. No cap.
>>7964394>>7964397>>7964402>>7964412Exactly, it's about this my dudeI am a fucking gigacahd, I watched JoJo but also watched Sakura Cardpators, I watch whatever I wantI played a gnome in WoW because it's funny, who cares
>>7964394You need to eat hrt and become woman, this is a sign that you need to crack your egg and take the pink pill, your soul yearn to become a woman
>>7964459Avg neoliberal space be like
>>7964394Are you retarded? >accept that a manly man can love pretty princesses?Just come out of the closet
>>7964394>bro is that a pretty woman what are you fucking gay broin retrospect this never made any logical sense, the boomers are probably just mad you didn't dress her like a disgusting whore
>>7964394If men can't draw women then the fact that you already complain like a woman means you're half-way there already, friend. Draw on, guilt free!
>>7964465It's not about drawing women in general, it's more about depicting them in this certain, intimate way that feels feminine by default. Especially if people irl wanted to see what you do for your job, and it's "this". Japs get a pass because they have never been seen as particularly masculine men to begin with, but a western man? A faggot. Laughed at by a construction worker friend, to whom being an artist is not a real profession to begin with
>>7964726you're obviously a deranged tranny and should commit suicide
>>7964412>If you handle it with humor, indifference, or calm confidence, you completely disarm the criticism. It establishes high social status because it shows you dictate your own worth, rather than letting others dictate it for you.what about autists? they fit the description but theyre still retards at the end of the day
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>>7964778>if you like women a lot, it means you want to be onesome real post modern shit
>>7964411That he's based and has good taste.>>7964726You're not obliged to show them. Just say it's private and you don't like to share or whatever. If they don't respect that they aren't friends.
>>7964394anxiety -> you have inner retarded conflict made from your believes you are either snooty libtard or homosexuals. Every men with balls and that is straight want to draw some big pair of big tits.
>>7964726>Laughed at by a construction worker friendOh wow. Wouldn't want to be laughed at by the common letztermensch rabble
>>7964394I only draw women because I find men disgusting
>>7964394Everything about this OP is more submissive and feminine than liking pretty princesses is.
>>7964726oh no! a guy who sees women as women rather than sexual objects? imagine how much of a pussy we'd think he is, pussy repellent! someone get this massive faggot away from us
>>7964885>a guy who sees women as women rather than sexual objects? imagine how much of a pussy we'd think he is, pussy repellent! someone get this massive faggot away from usyou say that but thats exactly how women treat guys like this
>>7964726Brother, I've been in a group like yours where your peers will bust your balls if you do something that deviates from the norm of chugging beer, cat calling girls and beating your girlfriend, so I can tell you, in my own personal experience with this, they will bust your balls for trying to do something they perceive as "pussy" but if you don't let it bother you and keep doing what you're doing they'll drop it. If they're real at least. If they keep making an issue out of it or frequently attacking you because of it, they aren't your friends. Huge difference between banter and some insecure fuck trying to make you feel emasculated for something they themselves are too pussy to do.>>7964774Autists can be abrasive because they can't navigate social norms in the way someone intentionally composed can, and this can be polarizing, their only saving grace would be if they're cute or their autism leads to them becoming successful in some field.
>>7964789it makes perfect sense within the disturbed logic of modern power dynamics. trannies are the bank bailout of the gynocratic feminist western way of life.
>>7964726just by this thread it's obvious you're bullied and demeaned and called a faggot because you are one and not because of your drawings. go to the gym.
>>7964893It unfortunately sounds like you just live within a community and culture where people value that hyper masculine facade, prob texas or some southern state, I date a girl from here once, and yeah, she really did straight up call me a pussy and tried to emasculate me for playing fucking video games and not stoicmaxxing 25/8. Lmao. Imho, if you can't summon up the courage to do what you want in public, then do it in secret until you're more comfortable with and at peace with yourself. You're not going to find your people there. Even though your people do exist there, your people are all too scared to be who they really are because of the oppressive culture you all live by.
>>7964899I do like the notion that having enough confidence makes a lot of things more acceptable or attractive than they are, but how do you internalize this stuff? To me it seems like you would need a positive feedback loop sustaining your newfound confidence for long enough where it becomes a part of you, in other words, so it's a bit of a catch 22, you need to feel confident despite having no reasons to do so
>>7964906Yes, external validation does help with solidifying your sense of self. Which is why it's pretty common to tell people who feel like they don't fit in to move or find communities they fit in with. In a modern world people just find online spaces they can find others like them. Speaking as someone who's been in that position of normie coded but also not fitting in within the culture and trying to find online spaces I fit into, you probably also won't fit into some online cultures as well, since some might too much or too detached from society. You have some real world experience and understanding of real world social norms and that can make you too "normie" for the outsiders that flock to online spaces. So ultimately, it's about finding like minded people who can help validate your sense of self, and making small continual efforts to be okay with who you are as a whole. The truth is, in this world, the people that have natural charisma and magnetism aren't any different from you or me, the only difference is that they're owning who they are completely. Which sounds impossible to wrap your head around because in your life being who you are authentically has only ever resulted in being attacked. How can someone be liked for being themselves even if it's cringe? Your biggest critic will always be you, and you will always find yourself cringe or pussy until you realize you don't actually feel that way about yourself, you learned that's how you should feel about yourself. It's a matter of self acceptance, as corny as that is. While external validation does absolutely help, your journey towards true self acceptance takes meaningful effort on your part. When I see you, I see me from 5 years ago. It feels like I'm getting to the point where I'm actually starting to fw me heavy, which is a huge step forward from my early twenties where I was extremely worried about how others perceived me or how I fit in. Now, lil by lil, I'm giving less of a fuck.
>>7964726Its great you want intamacy but you have turned it into pornography.Seek an intamate relationship with God. He will finish turning you into a man inside your noggin.This isnt a suggestion.I dont care if you tried once. its an eternal process.Self help gurus will tell you that your emotional state should be fixed on something more than getting a woman. Here in /ic, its your art, but that is still a physical material thing that your emotional state is sitted on that can be taken away. Age, losing your hands or eyes. Thats why your emotional state needs to be built on God.If you refuse this advice youre going to end up right back here again. Like a broken record.
>>7964926>Which sounds impossible to wrap your head around because in your life being who you are authentically has only ever resulted in being attackedThe sad truth is that, this is mostly a self inflicted wound. There were very few people in my life who directly criticized my taste and what I like to make, but their opinion felt much more heavier, more impactful. I feel like I'm a fraud to people who are actually accomplished, but otherwise I've been met with praise, not animosity, not really. It's when I'm insecure is when I get the most shit, so to speak.A part of me knows that being good at anything is fundamentally worthy of respect, so in that sense if I was exceptionally good just at painting pretty women, there would be more admiration than contempt for what I do, I know that. I just want to be okay with who I am and what I like, like you put it. It's been a process of self-acceptance, do you have any advice on how to... speed it up? Or anything that would make me feel I can actually get there in a reasonable time.
>>7965010Yeah I get wanting things to come fast, but building it brick by brick over time is going to yield lasting results as you build a foundation and lifestyle through consistent practice. Radical self acceptance or exposure therapy are a thing though. Essentially putting yourself into situations or doing things that are in alignment with what you want. A more extreme form of cognitive behavioral therapy. Pretty much like hijacking your learned behaviors and trying to brute force a new somatic baseline. An example being purposefully putting yourself into positions where you can be rejected. Not for the feint of heart or those without guidance/support as it can also lead to confirmation bias doubling down on your insecurities or negative thinking about yourself. "Stepped outside of my box, immediately got punched, ergo, every time I step out I will get punched".Anyways, here's a very extreme example of what being secure in yourself allows. The guy from babybeard. Obviously an extremely flagrant example, but look at how he's lived his life. Lmao. Pro wrestler, singer, actor, stuntman. You think he gives one single fuck about people calling him gay? Nahhhh. He created this persona for the subversion of traditional imagery because there is shock value and entertainment in that. He fucks. He knows who he is and it's hilarious.If you want my advice for what you can do rn that would help you most, it's to literally just draw. lmao. draw what you want. who gives a fuck
>>7965032>>7965010>>7964926>>7964906>>7964899OH MY GOD WORD SLOPTHIS IS A ART BOARD, WHERE IS THE ART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Is OP really that retarded to think that some construction worker laughed at their art? Are you perhaps... stupid? What the fuck did you expect? Its like calling a nigger a nigger and then you get genuinely surprised they chimp out... huh?????????????
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>>7965010My man, for the love of god, you don't need a 12 step program, you can just fucking do things. If you willingly admit that you're being self-deceptive, you are not being self-deceptive, you are just being a needlessly obtuse retard. Do you realize how dumb it sounds to say you recognize that you have delusional thoughts, and consciously choose to identify with beliefs you already recognized are delusional? You don't need permission from anyone to practice drawing, just fucking do it, you're justifying procrastinating.
>>7964926It's not even for validation, but rather for peace of mind so you don't feel like you are surrounded by starving beasts, but like minded people, or simply people that are generally chill and mature to be and have around, are too hard to find nowadays>normies are just golems and will avoid any single thing that makes them activate a single brain cell>online people are either too autistic to function properly or just too mentally unstable or have big insecurity issues You cannot find the right mix of chill people that have an actual sense of humor that won't be playing high school popularity games or attempt to humiliate others any chance they get or decide how others are feeling which goes way beyond the fun of banter; if they're not just "grinding and hustling" to sell you shit.All the problems you're listing is exactly because of individuals i mentioned.You think you're "cringe" because of those people who will be judge, jury and executioner because they're even worse abominations than you and they have to strike you down first so nobody fucks with them.Humans need social connection and belonging, but if every social circle is full of retards that your only choice is to stay by yourself simply so you don't have to suffer those "people", there is really nothing you can do except trying to find a needle in an ocean.
>>7965032>>7965054I'm a chronic overthinker, I appreciate you gents and all the other anons for making it much more simple.
>>7965060Yeah most people don't ever realize self acceptance anon, same ol same ol. Arguably worse now that we live in a world where you have the option to not think at all if you wanted and be distracted in perpetuity. Only way to find genuine people is to be genuine, or as they say, real recognize real gang.
Holy shit all of you just troon out already
>>7965107trannies are gay and hate real women, nothing to do with this thread, its hilarious to imagine a tranny wanting to draw hyperfeminine woman in a dress
>>7964394>I bench 225 lbsyou're a gay, retarded meathead, the fact you needed to add this in is the most homosexual part of your post
>>7965110Nah, a tranny fag made this thread.He does this all the time. Hes trying to force a relationship with some other autist that lurks the interweb as well. Youll see a thread like this in many online forums and discords with artists. Everyones having a good time then he will bring everyone to a screething halt to handle his self esteeem issues. He will ask "can you draw me to boost my self esteem as i transition" or other shit like this thread.Dont engage, its the same shit over and over. Guy needs to be put on a list along with professional help.
>>7965125There's literally nothing wrong with him posting that. You're just jealous.
Have a cheat code.Women are People. People have Money.Catering to the whims of people to get that money should stifle any intimidation. :D
