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>>7966046
Did you paint this, anon?
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>>7966055
Yeah
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4 years, bros, im still missing the guy
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>>7966046

The way you paint is nice but this really suffers from structural issues, for examply the nose is at a different angle than the rest of the face and the eyes are situated independently from each other as well. Draw more, study faces more. Your painting is there but your drawing and structural knowledge needs some work.
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>>7966202
Me too. The art communist felt very alive with him in it
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>>7966304
I know, half the paintings I do, I realize I shat the bed at the drawing stage mid painting. The other half I look at the day after and they're even worse, picrel. I'm trying to draw more, but it's incredibly non-stimulating and I just start thinking about painting and losing focus
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>>7966325
Do you work from life? Work from life. Hire models, do self portraits if you're broke. Still lifes. It's alright to get your practice with painting rather than drafting, just try to keep the studies economic in terms of size / materials
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>>7966202
Everybody does but that's this nigger earth it will take good people who are inspiration and spawn 5 epsteins instead.
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>>7966202
I miss watching his streams when he draw those tiger and rabbit cartoon when he is finished doing the point of his exhibition.
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WIP

Any trad genius here who can give me tips?
I'm currently done with the underpainting (Blue/Grey + Green), and the base colors of the body.
I was using blue/grey + green for the underlayer to give the image a colder feel (it's a doll, not really a human), but I think the colors just turned out muddy. Probably should have dropped the green.

I think I still don't really know how to paint shadows well with brush. I always try to paint shadows thinner, with lots of water, so that they stay in the background, while I can paint the highlights more opaque with less water, so that they stand out more. However, when I paint the shadows with water, I don't really know how to create smooth transitions with them. It seems you can only make smooth transitions if you paint without water.

I also don't really know how to paint the midtones well, because again, I was trying to not mix them with white, so that they stay in the background. However since I didn't mix them with white, they turned out too dark I think. Not really a flesh tone. I think I would have to mix my colors with white to make them look more fleshy, but I only wanted to use white for the highlights.

It's so difficult to paint with brush well. I don't really know what to do about this.
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So guys how did you like the exhibition?
https://www.truepainting.org/
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>>7966749
For starters, I officially reject Pedophilia and Acrylics.
If your shadows were transparent, they would not look as muddy as they do.
Your lights and shadows are not really distinct.
Overall your values no good.
You don't really have deep shadows in your picture, so you don't need dark transparent colors to paint them, most of your picture is in the midtone range.

Work from a warm underpainting, until you know what you do.
Work on your value compression or on values in general.
Use glazing.
With acrylics you can pain a lot of thin layers in one sitting, you can use very transparent whites, zinc for example. Acrylic whites are more transparent than lead and you can dilute them a lot more, so you can use them for the midtones without facing problems, even for shadows.
>>7966756
Not bad, for modern day standards.
Didn't like the mannequins though, postmodern garbage. People have faces, fuck yourself if you think otherwise. Does it suppose to represent some degenerate idea of the tabula rasa state of human at birth?
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>>7966749
Haven't noticed that you paint on paper. Is it raw paper? Yeah of course you cant blend diluted color on an absorbent canvas.
Seal your picture with mate medium, or paint some more until the raw paper is sealed.
As a noob, don't use acrylics on raw paper, its hard to control, cos every new layer of paint changes the absorbency level of the paper, so every next layer behaves differently.
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>>7966788
>Your lights and shadows are not really distinct.
Yea, I think I didn't use enough water for the base skin layer. It partly made the shadows disappear.
Also should have used a different color for this base skin layer. This one looks too yellow/brownish. I actually have a better color for this, but I don't know my colors well enough yet and how they turn out when dried.

I will try to paint the shadows again a bit, and go over the skin layer with a different color again.

>Overall your values no good.
Note I didn't paint the highlights yet, so yea, there isn't really much depth in it yet.
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>>7966794
>Is it raw paper?
Well, I used the underlayer as a preparation.

>Seal your picture with mate medium
You mean the whole paper? I only know of people using matte medium as a substitute for water while mixing colors, but I don't have matte medium. Do you mean I should use it as some kind of gesso?
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>>7966799
Learn how to properly blend colors and how to build up values with this medium. So the outcome is controlled and not dictated by chance.
>Yea, I think I didn't use enough water for the base skin layer.
I am not sure what you mean. But as i said, you need to level up your skills with the medium. Otherwise, it's hard to differentiate between your lack in technique and lack of fundamental knowledge of light, form and color.
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>>7966817
>Learn how to properly blend colors and how to build up values with this medium
I already know how to do it. It's just easy to forget when actually working on soemthing.

For the shadows I think I should have used 3 different mixtures instead of only 1.
This way you can get better transitions, even when painting with water.
Another way to get transitions with water is also to just go over a layer again with the same color/mixture. Thsi way you also easily can create darker spots/transitions.

I kinda forgot to do this here.
I will probably start all over again, and do it better next time.

>I am not sure what you mean
Like I said, the base skin layer partly made the shadows disappear, because it was too opaque apparently. Just not enough water I guess.

It was kind of hard to give the grey shadows some skin color, without making them partly disappear. That's another thing I had problems with with. You have to be really precise with the amount of water you use.
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>>7966805
>Well, I used the underlayer as a preparation.
It does not look completely sealed.
>You mean the whole paper?
Yes.
You need a medium to properly work with acrylics.
You can use gesso, but some gessoes do absorb a lot of water as well. Which is not necessery bad. But you have the same effect with the absorbency changing over time. A solid layer of acrylics is less absorbent than most gessoes.
2-3 layers of mate medium would seal the paper completely without it being too slick afterwords like with gloss medium.

I would suggest guesso before or grey-brown imprimatura after the drawing. For the imprimatura you can use a transparent earth color with a lot of medium
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>>7966824
>I already know how to do it
>i forgot
That's not really how it works.
>I will probably start all over again, and do it better next time.
I would suggest pushing it further, you would probably learn more from it.
Acrylics is not oil, you can do whatever you want as long as there is no impasto.
You can work opaque over transparent, transparent over opaque there are barely any rules in this regard.
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>>7966826
I will have a look at that. Thanks!
I didn't know you also can use matte medium as gesso.

Probably should have used more water and color for the imprimitura. I will try better next time, thanks.
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>>7966830
>I would suggest pushing it further, you would probably learn more from it.
I will still try to ad highlights for the skin at least then do it again form scratch.
I want to see if I was right with my analysis of mistakes I made and if I could do it better.

Tomorrow I will also try to buy matte medium and see what I can do with it.
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>>7966833
>I didn't know you also can use matte medium as gesso.
Not quite, gesso has pigment in it, acrylic medium don't. Gesso is more absorbent, its opaque white and its more curse due to the chalk it contains.
Acrylic medium is more slick, it's transparent and less absorbent. It's not really a gesso, but it can seal the paper or the canvas.
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>>7966844
I see, thanks for the tip!
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Anyone has tips for brushes or pencils which are great for fine details?

I don't paint on big canvas so finding a good brush which can make really fine lines becomes difficult.
Also not sure what kind of pencil could fit to acrylics. Especially skin color pencils for details would be nice.
Or maybe a white highlight pencil which comes good with acrylics?
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I guess I would need something like a menso-fude brush for really fine lines.
Does something like this even exist in western brushes? I don't think they sell those here.
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Some honest critique would help to know where can I improve, the study here was vibrancy and bold colors composition, I think the values would improve had I used darker pigments as you can see the small area below her right arm then I thought that would tone down the overall mood composition , thats why I chose some chromatic adjacent to suggest shadows, sadly it looks weird. Any advice? Thank yous
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>>7966788
>Does it suppose to represent some degenerate idea of the tabula rasa state of human at birth?
No I think it's just an honest exercise drawing that concentrates on composition, marks/stroke economy and the forms/construction and gestures of the human subject.
The point of the show was to show works of varying skill level from different people, but that all have the same approach to painting in the sense if how the old masters saw it.
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>>7966983
Weak basis plus very saturated colors make your art look a distinct way. If you put it nicely, you would say decorative, or you could call it kitsch.
Some people can harmonize bright colors instinctively, they could take such flower child approach. I don't see that in your paintings, i think restraining yourself and earning your saturated color would be a way to go. But that could kill the fun for you and make you stop.
More concrete, your biggest problem right now is zero color harmony. You have blotches of saturated without any interaction between them. Try to intermix your colors at least a little bit. Use a harmonizing imprimatura or use a limitted palette, primary palette for example.
>>7966986
I am imune to your gaslighting, kiddo. Your explanation for the manequin heads is not suficient and therfore rejected.
The blanc heads are a subversive political comentary. Its anti-human, it's misontropic.
It isn't even very original, i have seen it docents of times.
Is that what you would like people to be, faceless, rootless automatons out of flesh that can be piked from everywhere, and put across lines in the sand like pawns? Perfect disposable working units to build the City of the Sun.
Maybe im schizoing out a little bit, who nows, but usualy im more often correct than not.
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>>7967008
I think you're reading too much into it. It's just croquis drawings that build up composition. As I said, some artists there are beginners so their stuff isn't yet much developed, but the stuff that matters is being expressed in them too.
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>>7967030
What are we talking about, intention or results, the latter is evidential?
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>>7966873
>>7966881
I was going to answer, but then you outed yourself as a brown weeb
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>>7966756
Holy fuck, what a meme. I see two paintings that are better than the average shit posted here.
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>>7967114
Answer it pls! I am no weeb. Japan just makes good art supplies
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>>7967129
Retard.
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>>7966038
does every thread need to have girls’ feet
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Trying to rely less on outline contours and such but i feel like the composition's stagnating.
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>>7967122
>average shit posted here.
Takes one to know one.
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>>7967272
I haven't even noticed, but you did, huh? Why are you so obsessed with this topic?
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>>7967276
Don't hear a refutation.
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>>7967559
Refutation of what? You don't have a single clue about anything. You think shitposting on /ic/ is equivalent to knowing art, that's how deluded you actually are.
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>>7967807
You think you and your students can paint, that's how delulu you are lol



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