>>8047752
Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

>>8047753
Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/pages/submissions is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration

>>8047756
/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9
(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos
Ganmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Don't be a crab
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effort posts that help you for posterity.

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>>8047752
I remember a while back saying I'd gather what I think are still the most useful Mark Crilley videos in regards to manga/comic book making. Even though hes still probably remembered for his "How to Draw Basic Ass Anime Head" stuff that most people who post on here dont need, he is the only author I know that goes in depth and breakdown the moment to moment process of just drawing the bloody thing which some anons who are starting out might need or would just like to see someone elses approach and see the artist break it down in real time
https://youtu.be/6JF0Y2Thbsw?si=k1Duo9TgyipcEn3m
https://youtu.be/oq8BHCvsM8s?si=oq8XmkPZ2L-wkPfn
https://youtu.be/kV-PHqOYfLE?si=pAbiiGRD3iiqpfjt
https://youtu.be/aNlE5lh0MvA?si=TtSfgTbIvHT7UrlQ
I always see comments on here about "How do I go about drawing a page?" and as far as method goes this is pretty much how it goes. People on this board develop their own methods overtime but its nice to see someone doing it in real time to get a better grasp on how (You) can do it.

>>8047764
It looks fine?
Not sure what you need feedback on without the rest of the page this is supposed to be in for context, but the drawing is fine

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Thoughts/Feedback/Critique? Much appreciated!

>>8047788
>>8047786

>>8047789

I was doing some studies recently I decided to draw a random panel from one of my scripts to see where I'm at while experimenting with screentones and bloom. It looks fine to me but I just wanted a second opinion because I tend to miss a lot stuff especially with my proportions looking wonky. Sometimes I really can't tell until someone points something out then it becomes obvious. I really appreciate the response!

>>8047752
>I became a fujoshi instead
Fake news translation

>>8047816
>translators note: Fujoshi means this fucking faggot right here

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>>8047777
these vids are pretty good. I make mangas kind of similar to him. the process that is...

>>8047752
Is this the power of fine art education?

https://bloodstainedbanners.thecomicseries.com/
I've begun my second comic project, a sci-fi war comic miniseries
The first comic I did can be found in the description

>>8047844
awesome, I will give it a read tomorrow

>>8047788
The shirt has too much texture.

>>8047788
screentone over the lineart looks a bit weird I don't know if that's intended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=030yYGKGZFs

>>8047961
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, i'll make sure it's brought up at the next general meeting.

>>8047961
Based UK for telling these hacks to go back to basic pen and paper like the true perverts of the past

>>8047965
>Based UK
mashalah, bradah!

>>8047961
good game bois, another hit on art. CLIP STUDIO PAINT isnt subscription, but you can still pirate it.

>>8047961
pirate chads win again

>>8047979
If you are a parasite and not a creator, sure.

I want to draw a short but detailed comic in trad, color. Watercolor or oil. Has anyone experience with digitalizing something like that?

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I don't want to sound racist but is it really necessary for an author's self-insert to always share their exact skin color?

>>8048013
Only if you iz black, whai boi.

>>8047993
it's a massive, and I mean massive bitch to get the color and values to look like they do irl, and on top of that oil would be retard slow and annoying to light uniformly because it's shiny
more importantly, if you knew how to paint, you'd know this already, so you can't actually paint

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water color is fun and easy. Markers are actually the tough one

>>8047788
Alien ass eyes too far apart.
Other than that it’s ok though. Stylistically it’s on point

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here's my new OC, Thomas Jefferson.
he likes anime

>>8048019
You mean with a scanner? My scanner is very low budget anyway.
Watercolor is not as matte as you think it is, it's not gouache. After some build up of paint you get shiny spots as well. Not sure how a scanner would handle it.
Watercolor is the more rational choice, but i have much more experience with oil. If you know what to use, you can make it dry in 48h or less.
And if you have to use a rig to make photos, it be wet as well.
Anyway, i plan to do 2-4 pages, not a weekly manga.

>>8048043
wrong thread saaaaaarrrr!

>>8048026
Markers are all transparent and they don't buckle the paper. So watercolor has it's pronlems as well.

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>>8047961
>pedoreviews

>>8048053
>>8048053
>1470023436126.gif
Nice try, Diddy

>>8048050
I literally do watercolor for a living, it is 100% matte, you're using shitty paint with low pigment content, the shiny thing is gum arabic overwhelming the paper, which doesn't happen with non-shit paint unless you're retarded, that shit gets you chewed out because nobody's buying that.
>scanner
Meme.

>>8048050
watercolor is matte tho

>>8047970
>(((UK)))
More like (((shalom))), and do what we say (((obey))), not what we do.
Thanks Margaret (((iron whore))) Thatcher.

>>8047961
>"assets"
Good, remove all those cheats and frauds
Learn to fucking draw, faggots.

>>8048013
only uncreative people do that

>>8047961
drawing will be illegal in like 5 years

>>8048120
>when they came for rapists, I said nothing, because I wasn't a rapist...

>>8048094
In practical sense it is, but i'm not sure if the shiny spots would interfere with the scanner or not.

>>8048120
Based, depicting humans is haram.

>>8048146
There aren't going to be any shiny spots unless you're using a nonabsorbent surface, using shit tier paint, painting with separated paint instead of mixing it back in or going full retard with glycerin based paint like Old Holland. Again, the binder is supposed to sit under the pigment, if it's visible ove the pigment (shine), your surface can't absorb it, there's too little pigment in the paint or you can't paint.
>scanner
Stop acting like a retard

>>8048162
Pyw

>>8048172
How about you take the opportunity to learn to fix your retarded fuckups instead of acting like a butthurt retard? Are you even using cotton paper?

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>watercolor is 100% matte
Schminke Horadam 1 pass.

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>>8048176
Schmincke is matte. I tied to help, but you're a dumb nigger incapable of learning. If you have even a modicum of intelligence, you'll reread what I wrote.

>>8048184
How is a photo of you tubes suppose to proof anything, nodraw?
You said watercolor is 100% matte i showed you it’s not.

>>8048190
You showed me you're low IQ and illiterate. Reread the posts or stay a dumb nigger, your choice.

>>8048191
I won

What a useless thread. I asked a simple question, a retard crashed out on a minor detail he was wrong about...
I should befriend some working mangaka from Japan instead.

>>8048216
>I should befriend some working mangaka from Japan instead
You do that, buddy

>>8048259
>passive agressive
Crabs never change.

>>8048264
And your skill never improves.

Have you ever worried that your story is far too predictable that your readers will see where the plot is heading from a mile away and lose interest almost immediately? How am I supposed to solve this without getting feedback from someone who has actually read it? I can't simply pretend to be an unbiased reader when, as the author I already know every twist and turn before it happens. It's a real dilemma. Maybe asking for advice here was the wrong place. I doubt any of you are genuine writing experts anyway. I would probably be better off asking on /lit/ instead.

>>8048266
pyw

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Isn't the concept of masking strange?
I get the idea, okey.
But then you end up spending 30 min on characters and 8 hours on the backgrounds, per page. Isn't it a little weird? Who loves drawing realistic backgrounds so much?

>>8048318
There are tons of background/vehicle/building/etc autists. Not everyone likes drawing people

>>8048320
I get that. Nihei was an architect before manga and it shows.
But i don't think that's what is meant here. I don't think it's necessarily about comics with an emphasis on the mood, environment, and so on.

>>8048013
nah but you'll probably trend towards the skin colour if your writing characters based on yourself or your experiences

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>>8048318
I'm not sure I can really agree, it sounds too up-in-the-clouds to me. Too philosophical.
Anime almost always features cartoony characters beside realistic backgrounds, but it rarely stands out as odd.
I think what's actually happening is that your imagination fills in the blanks. You see the realistic background and then interpret the cartoony character as being realistic also, in feeling, not sight. And so even with a few lines, hair feels like hair, a shirt feels like fabric, etc.

And it would probably work the same way the other way around as well. A real life actor placed into a cartoony world, as the viewer you would begin imagining there to be texture, smell, sound, physical form to this cartoony realm, it would look the same, but it would feel more real.

>>8048378
>texture
Most cosplay or netflix adaptations look like no one sees what the drawings are supposed to represent. There is never texture. So people tend to see anime literally.
>Anime almost always
Anime is always teamwork. Most pro manga as well.
But that is what i thought about. If you do it solo, you grind backgrounds all day long. You have a team, you draw some figures and go play Idolmaster while your art slaves do background rendering.

>>8048383
>teamwork
The art in anime and manga is pretty heavily curated. There being a discrepency between figures and backgrounds is absolutely intended and not accidental.
Furthermore, there are many manga artists that do their own backgrounds and they look the same as if an assistant had done them.

>>8047925
Yeah I added that grain effect over it for no reason. I guess I felt it was too flat and overdid it. Gonna remove it. Thanks for the response!

>>8047954
Yeah so I was going for a dreamly bloom effect but I think I overdid it a bit. I'll tone it down or remove it. Thanks man

>>8048038
Yeah I had a feeling the eyes were too spaced out lol. I've got a bad habit of doing that when I transition from sketch to inking because I draw the eyes a bit smaller. Definitely going to keep an eye out for that from now on. Really appreciate you pointing that out!

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So many manga look so much better than it really is after getting scanned. I thought Planetes had the peakest art ever, but after looking at a cleaner, better quality version of the pages, I realized the art actually looks quite simple up close. Maybe not even that far from my own stuff, though I'm sure you'd all rape my ass up for even saying this. This makes it feel much less intimidating honestly.

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I'm still a /beg/. I don't want to work professionally in the industry. I don't want to work under constant time constraints and under the breath of editors and publications skewing my perfect vision for a "safer" and more marketable story. I want to work at my own pace. I want to complete my entire story first, have every chapter made beforehand, and then release chapters weekly without having to worry if I will be able to get a chapter out in time or not. I do not want to learn Japanese and I do not want to socialize with anyone in-person. I will post chapters on my own website.

My goal? To have the story become so popular that it gets an animation adaptation, and an incredibly high quality one at that. I want people to discuss my story. I want people to speculate and theorize about all of its mysteries an intriguing aspects. I want people to make memes about my story. I want to see threads on /a/ about my story, glazing it or calling it slop. I want to see shitty YouTube reactions of my story or shitty video essays critiquing it and claiming that it's a flawed masterpiece that are way too long for their own good. I want people to make fan art of my characters. I want to see high effort cosplays of my characters. I want nice figures to be made of my characters. I want to see arcs of my story become movies in theaters and blow up on the internet for weeks.

Today, I will make the first step and start planning out my first story. There are 14 stories I want to tell, some short enough to fit into a single movie, others long enough to make long running shonen series' look minuscule. I will not focus on making the art good as the writing is more important. My stories will be digital only so I will not concern myself with proper physical formatting and which side of the page everything goes on. One day, a professional mangaka will see my story and be fond enough of it to want to bring the world's attention to it.

If ONE can do it, then so can I. I am going to make it.

>>8048422
What you said about your goal feels so real and relatable lol. Good luck man

>>8048411
Nah yeah you start noticing that a lot after a while. Unless youre doing illustration/graphics that use vector art where all the lines are literally calculated by a computer program the lines that I used to think were clean and crisp always have a little wobble to em or feathering even from the most pro artists there is. I appreciate the art just as much though if not moreso cause of that.

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I've resigned myself to the fact om gonna have to redraw alot of these panels; but you gotta be in it to win it. and i'd rather edit then redraw.

>>8048435
Good luck. Redraws are a pain in the ass. I have a lot of really bad panels that I'm gonna leave as is to save time. At least I learned to never leave bad panels behind because now I know I'll never fix them like I said I would.

>>8048318
If you want the effect, you gotta put in the work. Or else pay someone else to do the work, as is common practice.

>>8048324
This is an oft-repeated rumor but I'm not sure how true it actually is. He studied at Parson's in NYC but that's about all we know. Also I'd hardly categorize him as a "background/building autist".

>>8048378
>too philosophical
It's not a matter of philosophy. Simple character = cute, easy to project onto and relate to. Detailed character = not cute, harder to project onto and relate to. Environments being highly detailed contrasts with a simplified character drawing to encourage the reader to relate to said character.

>>8048268
you dont have time to worry about that, just make it. There's no point stopping yourself from making something because its not "le original enough" you can make something better only after you make things.

>>8048424
It's copypasta, retard

whenever I start a new page I also start a timer so I know how much time i've put into that page
my idea is that I won't spend at the very max more than 12 hours on a single page
basically a way to give myself enough time if I'm struggling but also to force me to keep moving and actually get pages done, even if i'm not happy with certain panels

what do you think of this?
I feel like making this type of stuff really is a battle between wanting to draw as best as you can but also to keep it moving and actually get pages done at a decent pace

>>8048463
First time on this site

>>8048467
Go back, there is nothing for you here

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this is a page from Orb: On the Movements of the Earth

it was physically published, ran for years, it was nominated for multiple awards (and I believe it won some) and got a very good anime adaptation

Basically you got no fucking excuse (also the author published another manga that was also highly successful and got a well acclaimed movie adaptation, "100 Meters")

>>8048013
Obviously, I wouldn't expect less from a Norwegian cosplaying as an Indian.

>>8048013
I support black people making their own things instead of demanding everything else include black people.

>>8048435
>Im gonna have to redraw em
Why is that? Like I know this comic you doing aint as polished as the Knight comic you were workin on but the art seems fine for what you going for. Like are you gonna redraw the panels with the guy? Cause I notice that at least this spread you got right here that despite different facial expressions you have goin on with the guy hes not given as many interesting angles or body movements, but its a hentai with the focus being the girl so its not that much of an issue.
Just wondering what the problem is that made you consider redrawing is all

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>>8048490
its just general inconsistencies in the greater page collection, not everything needs redrawing, like her face is off model almost every different panel and he is a new lil guy everytime.

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>>8044326>>8048503
Holy shit dude! are you really gonna do all of that?! That's quite ambitious. Ganbatte goonasai!!!!
Here's my first 21's fanart

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testing this page with writing pencil

>>8047844
I liked it, art has a long way to go but I was still able to follow it.

Dialogue was good, and the characters talking back and forth was the best part.

The scenes establishing areas and buildings were way too messy, you can't get away with this chickens crat, at least get rid of the hatching you use. Or make the hatching smaller. I have to decipher some panels showing ships and explosions. Its possible to clean this up and use fewer lines, then the energy blasts and exhausts can still have the sketchy hatching but be more precise.

A thinner brush and filling things in solid black would do a lot to clean up the action panels.

>>8048176
that's not what watercolor looks like, you're doing something wrong

>>8048590
and by long way to go I mean you need to focus on clarity over saving time. It looks like you can do a lot better than this but the decision to use messy hatching ruins the larger panels. When its just people talking its not so bad, it can even look cool. And the figures are not that poorly drawn anyways, you just need to not ruin the good art.

>>8048546
saved so fast. this is hardcore thanks man!

>>8048503
You're worried way too much over fucking nothing, and this is why you've attempted this same premise with a slightly different setting at least 4 or 5 times now, only to stall out bout 10 pages in every time.

I want to speedrun some manga chapters, to gain experience in with paneling and pacing. How should I approach that? Focuse on one aspect of art and ignore anything else?

I wish I had a computer to make manga. I bought a laptop but then they gave me the box looking like it had been ran over so I had to return it.

Why do all the best artists here waste their skill on goonslop? You already went through the hardest learning curve why not use it for something people could actually care about

>>8048661
you need to be man of the same caliber as them to understand

I am not the schizo, I just had a thought and wanted to share: what is the end agme with webtoons? They optimized the fuck out of them and made them pure dogshit and emotional bait for women, and they got the women hooked, but now what? Just keep milking foids forever? No red blooded man is ever reading a webtoon where nothing fucking happens AND the art is shit. Nobody is drawing fanart of korean guy #26326 traced over the anime boy csp model. Eventually the zoomers reading this slop will get bored and grow up, what then?

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>>8048675
Webtoons are the modern equivalent of pulp magazines, cheap disposable entertainment following trends of the time. There's always enough authors who are fine pumping out anything for a quick buck and they'll just move on to whatever the next fad is

>>8048676
thats a good point, I guess was being too negative.

I wished I could write. Maybe I'm just not experienced in it enough but it seems to me that writing is way harder than drawing.

The difficult thing is the climax. I just don't understand how to come up with good climaxes. I kind of understand how a good climax looks like (inevitable and surprising at the same time) but I don't understand how to get there and how to come up with the ideas for it.

It seems to me that finding good story ideas is complete luck.

>>8048661
I spent so long getting as good as I got. It's about time I started getting paid.

>>8048690
My idea is to write super short stories (1-2 pages).

Here are my thoughts so far about how to write stories for this format:
>to write interesting 1 page stories it seems to be more effective to me when you go into absurdity with the story
>gag stories also seem to be most effective for such short stories

>to come up with a good climax it seems to me that you first have to create some context and then go into more detail by adding things which could fit into this context
>then you have to somehow create some spectacle (people dying for example) and a twist with these details

I do not really understand how to come up with these details tho. And hwoto create good climaxes with them. All I can do is just stealing from other stories I know and changing them a bit.

>>8048676
Giga cope migger, the pupl magz from 1950 are written better than 100% of todays woke slop.

>>8048699
Just write down what happened

>>8048702
Yes but there needs to be a good climax. It needs to be surprising or funny in some way and inevitable at the same time. That's pretty difficult to come up with from scratch.

>>8048469
I was gonna say “still beats /beg/“ but no, that’s actually pretty on point for /beg/

>>8048469
>0006-015.jpg
What i wonder is, why do pros never draw in such simplified styles?
The only one i can think of is Nihei.
He publishes 30-60 pages per month. How long does it take him to draw? 5 pages per day, 10?

>>8048661
what do people care about? young adult power fantasies and what-ifs about real people inhabiting NES video games?

>>8048469
art on this level making it is a sign of a healthy market. there are so many readers that manga like this can slip through and ride the coattails of better stuff. We dont have that luxury. If you went back in time and took jojo's bizzare adventure (the first part with jonothan) and killed araki, and then came back to 2026 and posted it, nobody would read it.

>>8048718
>if you went back in time and killed homer and posted the illid on /lit/ nobody would read it
>if you went back in time and killed charley chaplin and posted his movies on /tv/ nobody would watch them
yes, because those works and their success are a product of their time, retard, it has nothing to do with how healthy a market is
there are vastly more readers and viewers today and the industries are incomparably bigger, but those works don't appeal to them because their experiences and environment are radically different and don't resonate with those works

>>8048661
Sex is a very powerful tool. You are just too hypocritical to realize it. Nothing says more about humanity than the animalistic nature of sex.

>>8048718
What would happen if you kill yourself, though?

>>8048722
this would check out if the porn was hot but none of it is

>>8048747
Pyw

Not everyone can be a master at anatomy and writing. Drawing manga is hard. But drawing porn is always a good way to learn and keep being motivated.

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How do you do this kind of soft erasure in monochrome?
Or do I have to do this in grayscale instead?

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>>8048714
>why do pros never draw in such simplified styles?
For better marketability and better social media exposure.
Pretty-over-rendered pictures grab attention.
It makes goycattle stops for a bit while doomscrolling SNS, thus turning them into potential customer.
It doesn't always work tho.
Picrel, Galaxias, has very detailed and amazing art, the author's post keeps getting millions of views yet the volumes sell like shit.

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>>8048469
>Basically you got no fucking excuse
It baffles me how you newbies can't ever comprehend that manga has always, ALWAYS about
>depicting INTERESTING story through picture
not
>depicting INTERESTING picture through story
The latter is why you often see manga with good art but got cancelled because they're just boring.

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>>8048469
His backgrounds are solid, though. Nothing special, but you can safely call it int.
So he is rather an envierment artist with low people drawing skills or he can somehow afford proper assistants.

>>8048753
Epic shot can be done with little rendering, as long as the composition is good.

>>8048753
P.S. so we have already Gahiakuta clones, lol?

>>8048722
there's more porn than ever and what did we learn from it

>>8048753
it always works
people look at pictures for the art, hence why the posts do well
people read comics for the story
the art gets them to check out the comic, they don't care about the plot, so they don't buy it
tired example, but look at OPM, nobody ever got at ted to the webcomic because they saw a picture of the art, it's always word of mouth
meanwhile, the manga was always shilled via art, gifs of how amazing the fight scenes look etc
same story (worse 2bh, but for the sake of argument), better art wins out by orders of magnitude
shitty stories will still get more attention with bette art but not much

ps. calling people goycattle for appreciating art is peak kike, everyone can see it's jealousy btw

>>8048763
That humans are retarded animals. Christuck hypocrites try to brainwash people to believe otherwise but porn shows the truth.

>>8048760
that's literally just 3D models

>>8048765
saar

>>8048753
What im trying to say is, if you are a good mangaka already, you have an eye for epic shots, for cool composition, dynamic poses, you have a feel for time and space in comic format.
And if you go down with just rendering, you produce cool, dynamic panels with little effort. The knowledge is passive, you don't have to think about it too much.
You get 80% of the effect from a full rendered manga by spending 20% of the usual time.
You could have 2 shows at the same time or a lot of free time.

>>8048768
80% is shit

>>8048766
WHich are not that easy to make.
I'm learning blender right now, as i want to be able to produce some complicated geometry fast. It's not that easy.

>>8048769
No, it can look fresh and dynamic, as long as you know what you're doing.

>>8048772
No, it's shit, would you be happy with your manga being 80% of what you could make it?

>>8048751
the people drawing porn have no motivation and are not learning. knight anon got lazier and porn anon never shuts up about wanting to kill himself

>>8048786
grim

God I hate no-draw fags so much

I just need a story for all my giant robot designs...

>>8048786
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Drawing porn is a great way to learn anatomy. People just get lazy because they don't develope new skills.

>>8048809
pyw drawcuck

>>8048821
>Drawing porn is a great way to learn anatomy
Hahaha-haha, no.

When did this general become like this? When /co/ died or when the moon anon came here and some schizos followed him?

>>8048873
>le vague meta complaining
pyw

>>8048879
Already did

>>8048882
my condolences

>>8048879
Pyw

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>>8048817
How about.. The generic "high-school drama", but the students are pilots for fighting robots, organized by corporations competing for military contracts on space exploration and warfare. The pilots become mini-celebrities, and companies make merchandise from them and them robots, some even become music and movie stars. But still, they can die at any moment in the robot fights or get mangled and mutilated.
The higher arc of the story is when actual war breaks out, and they are used as proxies for corporate nations at war, and they have to fight and kill each other, not as a tournament fight between competing opponents, but as forced enemies at war. The end of the story, climax as the "pilots forced to be mortal enemies" join forces to turn on their military complex national corporate leaders to destroy them instead of humanity with their planned wars.
There you have it, it's yours. The story is full of tragic love and intense wild sex between life and death tho.. It has to have lots and lots of tragic intense sex and hopeless love relationships, that's my only condition..

>>8048786
>>8048747
It's hilarious how this thread, much like /salt/, is full of people drawing sex and horny shit but NONE of it succeeds at actually actually being erotic. It's all drawn with the clinicalness of medical journals and it unironically screams that you haven't had truely pleasurable sex in ages.

>>8048925
>projecting this much

>>8048929
>t. Upset that his incel status bleeds through his work

>>8048590
>>8048595
Thank you for the critique, I realize now the most important part of having beta readers is to know if they're able to comprehend what's happening

>>8048912
kino...

Do you think those threads are a net positive or a net negative for you as creator?

>>8048925
You don’t have to be rude

>>8049009
he likes it like that

>>8048721
what happened to "timeless classics" tho?

>>8048996
Well consider this.
There's nowhere else. This is basically the only place on the internet outside of perhaps private discord groups that may or may not even exist, where you can dicuss manga making in any kind of constructive capacity.

>>8049098
Don't you think pro mangaka have private chat groups where they discuss Idolmaster and other important stuff?

>>8048478
sure, but he is barely black. octoroon maybe

>>8049101
Honestly, I don't think so.
They may have contact with other manga artists, but I seriously doubt they engage in any kind of critique or sharing of knowledge.

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>>8049104
He is considered white in muttlandistan?

>>8049105
That would make no sense.

>>8049090
Meme by boomers incapable of comprehending the generational gap, it was never real. Generally it takes a vested interest in the medium itself that goes beyond casual consumption to appreciate "timeless classics", and then it's more a historical interest than genuine enjoyment of the work for the most part.
IE you can find someone who will get some value from watching Citizen Kane, 12 Angry Men, Rebel Without a Cause or whatever, but you'll be hard pressed to find someone that enjoys movies but doesn't care about the technical aspects who will actually enjoy the films in their own right rather than as an exercise in media studies.

>>8049106
not only white, Superior. A noble lineage of the ancient Kangz.

>>8049108
GOOOD MORNING SAAARRRRR!!!

>>8049111
>not only white, Superior
So he is a white supremacist?

>>8049112
Take your meds, boomer

>>8049116
fucking bloody fucking bloody you fuck me basterd?

>>8049124
Sorry nobody gives a shit about the crap you liked 60 years ago, take solace in the fact you'll be dead soon.

>>8049130
GOOOOD EVENING SAAAAR!!!

>>8049108
"Timeless classics" doesn't just refer to movies from 60 years ago. It refers to stories hundreds or even thousands of years old. There are certain things that are understood about the human condition regardless of generation and traditionally, people are able to connect with each other across time and generations because you should be able to understand the trials and triumphs of humanity through passing stories down.

"Timeless classic" doesn't mean "That one movie everyone really liked."

Problem is, in modern times people act like space aliens around one another, few people are able to connect with, let alone empathize with other human beings, so it isn't really shocking when self-centered, self-important people can't identify with the plights of other individuals.

That is, of course, assuming the person consuming such stories can even read the story or even comprehend what is trying to be explained in the first place. These days, you have to just assume everyone is a selfish idiot who thinks the Earth is flat and possibly thinks modern medicine is the devil's work.

>>8049135
The context is manga, there's no such thing as thousands of years ago, and I made my case clear: it's a meme artificially propped up by old "authority figures" either way. How many people read Gilgamesh or Beowulf because "they like reading"? Practically no one, instead they read it because of tangential interests.
>hurr durr selfish dumb people
Peak retard, those works were written for people of a different era, expressing sentiments born of that era, no shit outsiders can't connect to it, same way boomers can't connect to younger generations' art. Every generation fails to connect to expressions of a bygone time and later turns its nose up at their grandchildren's creations because they lack the experience that gave birth to it.
Experiencing a centuries old work the way its contemporaries experienced it is something that takes decades of study to even approximate, we cannot even comprehend the mindset and understanding of the world of people who lived thousands of years ago. Beowulf is what, 1000 years old, and people who dedicated their life to understanding it still can't tell what some verses mean despite fully understanding the language, and other verses they're arguing about what the words even mean.
Thinking you can connect with a work "thousands of years old" is peak midwit delusion.

>>8049135
>>8049161
Consider the Bible, probably the most studied book in history of mankind, we're still just discovering what the fuck they were talking about. Nobody knew what the fuck Isaiah was talking about with the star falling from heaven and an entire aspect of Christianity was made up to try and make it make sense, then thousands of years later somebody digs up some rocks and find out it was a reference to a forgotten Canaanite myth that contemporary readers would have understood to be mockery directed at a real person.

>>8048925
Good artists don't even post here because of people like you. There is no sense in posting your art in a septic tank full of retarded niggers.

>>8049185
Luckily you're here

>>8048821
The point is that the people here are not the ones benefiting from drawing porn.

>>8049161
You might be--no, scratch that. You're definitely retarded.

>>8048786
>porn anon never shuts up about wanting to kill himself
The fuck? No I don't. y u lyin?

>>8049108
My favorite movie is Jeremiah Johnson. It's just a good ass film that holds up. It has a kind of timeless quality to it. You are wrong.

>>8049185
What triggered you like this? Thread was doing just fine

did anything ever happen to that AI traced comic that won that contest?

>>8049197
I certainly don't post my drawings here tho. There is no sense posting art on an american website. You retarded christcuck niggerlovers have no taste in art.

>>8049256
t. beg

>>8049256
Manga is not american, you retard.

>>8049254
>AI traced comic that won that contest
Which one?

>>8047788
Looks good. Just darken the darks like where the hair meets- make it darken and gradate towards lighter values as it leaves that section.

>>8049263
Learn to read you mouthbreathing retard

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>>8047961
>jewblireviews
didn't he literally get cucked

>>8048013
>self-insert
>always share their exact skin color
to some extent, yeah, not ALWAYS always but self inserts generally present features that the author either thinks are noteworthy about them or they might feel are underrepresented, it's the character they'd like to see out there and go "wow it's literally me", so for a country as insanely racialized as the usa skin color is a thing that can make people feel like they have more in common with a character

>>8048700
ieslb

It must be no-draw hour here

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>>8049368
Get off my back Im workin

>>8049368
welcome to manga "making" general

>>8049368
1:30am and thinking if I'm even capable of inking atm

I want to draw an hyper detailed comic book about one of my OC featuring hyper detailed art and heavy focus on worldbuilding rather than traditional storytelling (basically a metal hurlant comic in online form) that serves as a side story to my main one, but I want the art to be OBJECTIVELY GOOD.
Like, Krekkov/TheGoldenSmurf tier at the lowest.
I hope I can start if before 2035, but I objectively and realistically lack skill.

>>8049359
You think i run a background check on the creator of every yt video I encounter?

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>>8048503
If I were you I wouldnt worry too much about it, unlike your Knight comic this one is more comedic and less serious in nature, and we are only gonna see these characters for this one-shot idea right? I would focus on making a few key drawings of the girl character as high quality and "on model" and the others can be more loose. Like maybe prioritize key drawings/panels that have her on model like the first few panels where she is introduced and the key sex scenes, otherwise be loose with it cause we are only gonna be with these characters for a short time (and when people are horny they can forgive the ""shittier"" drawings as long as you got a good one comin up next) so the pace at which the readers are gonna go through this one shot will be real quick.
Plus given its more comedic nature you dont wanna make everything "on model" cause comedic drawings work best when they can be more loose and expressive. Like not every drawing of the girl youve posted so far has been "on model" but at the same time she has energy and easily readable expressions. You dont wanna lose that to have technically better drawings

Hey laundrymom how’s things going

>>8049399
Isn't the knight comic NSFW too anyways?

Nooo, not my Berserkerino cartoons, now they went too far. Release Epstein from the prison, right fucking now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi_i25qa8Lc

>>8049421
jesus buy an ad faggot.

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>>8049368
It was, now it's time to jork it, then go to bed.

>>8049368
I only draw when I'm happy

>>8049426
and I'm never happy

>>8049432
I never draw.

The French porn guy is the knight guy?
Why did he have to stoop so low? Does he get paid?

>>8049460
What do you mean "low"? What did he do?

>>8049460
>stoop so low
Rape comics are already ground zero if you ask me.

>>8049482
you're a deeply unserious person.

>>8049475
>What did he do?
Porn.

>>8048873
What happened? I haven't been here in several months, mind to explain?

Guys, do you think people would go after me if i draw a anti-imperial, class-conscious battle shonen manga? Will they try to dox me and shit? Should i expect deplatforming and debanking?

>>8049482
>>8049460
No. You're just fucking GAY. And you want everyone else to be GAY as you are.
>>8049513
>>8049513
>What happened? Mind to explain?
He's GAY. Don't mind him.

>>8049519
>anti-imperial, class-conscious
The world is occupied by the JewSA so your communist propaganda will probably be very successfull.

>>8049645
Crazy how the american dream became "communist" all of a sudden. The (((enemy))) of the story is clear, the manga should start with (((they))) assassinating a national leader like (((they))) did JFK. Then assaulting power and inverting all the moral en economic values, as (((they))) do in their satanic rituals.

>>8049639
>Not wanting to draw erectile penises is gay, bros, i swear

>>8049649
>fapping is gay, bros, I swear

>>8049647
It isn't just (((they))). It's the whole USA doing this. Americans love (((them))).

>>8049653
>Americans love (((them))).
Anon.. I

>>8049653
>Americans love (((them))).
Not anymore. Charly Kirk, the genocide of a whole nation in 8K, and the Iran disaster, finally did it.
Americans hates them now, but it's not (them), it is England the one behind all of this shit. Scots and Irish need to fix that evil once and for all.

>>8049645
Lool, sure. The establishment will make my anti-establishment manga popular?
I live in poorope, i may publish it under an American name, like John Smith, so the police don't raid my home.

>>8049650
Touching penis is gay, yes.

>>8049662
Why do you think everyone and everything is gay? That's called 'projection", anon.

>>8049666
>Why do you think everyone and everything is gay?
Last time i said the reason, 6 police officers has raided my house and took my tech away. You know how much new pc hardwae costs in the piece of shit clownconomy we have right now?

>>8049482
>>8049460
Only a FUCKING IMMENSELY GAY RETARD would not want this >>8048435 to be made.

>>8049684
It's not about what you do, but what you do not do in the same time.

>>8049687
Go to be gay somewhere else.

>>8049684
No one said that retard, you faggy ass porn addicts want to be persecuted so badly.

>>8049684
ah yes, the classic bellow of the man with the worst taste in the whole world.

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>>8049727
>>8049728
Manga is for porn addicts and freaks you retard, maybe you should go to some gay ass homosexual american capeshit comics board.

>>8049731
he didn't draw porn though

>>8049731
>Manga is for porn addicts and freaks

ooooo I know some mango readers who would have strong words for you

>>8049743
Too bad I'm stronger than them

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>>8049753

After reading through this thread I'm starting to think the shitposter is a woman.

>>8049760
Is that obvious?

>>8049760
why would a kuniochi be sent to /mmg/ to shit it up?

>>8049767
They can't allow the existence of ANYTHING sex related. It's the orwellian 1984 "agenda 2030". The world must be de-populated for the arrival of their "era". People won't be allowed to have sex and create newborns. Human cattle will be grown by corporations like monsanto, as they do now with transgenic seeds copyright.
It all starts in the mind, they are neutering people, de-sexing population's minds and culture. They need biological de-sexed slaves to just serve them, not to feel or to be sentient in any capacity.

>>8049760
Who?

>>8049655
>>8049658
The new meta of the american is to act redpilled while at the same time supporting the establishment.

>>8049760
Careful you might actually respect his pronouns.

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I keep delaying my next doujin update because I feel like the art isn't good enough. idk why I care, its the early sfw storypages.

I don't think there's enough substance to the porn debate to chime in besides saying you should draw porn, and copy your favorite porn artists.

>>8049760
>>8049839
Pretty sure that """"""woman"""""" is just mikufag harassing the billionth art general because he's a jealous retard like always.

>>8049919
He's some christfag retard crying at "not muh precious manga coolchure" as if anti-christian savage japs don't have one of the most deranged and immoral artistic culture in the world.

>>8049919
I don't know if it's mikufag, but I definitely see the same posting style shitting up multiple threads all day

>>8049797
MAGA is based, the first lolicon president who grifts and wins with no remorse. Truly someone worth aspiring to.

>>8049848
>doesnt have the reflective sticker
Fucker playing with fake cards

Is it important to have a strong idea for your manga, or is it all about the execution?

Hurr durr btw

Theres midterm voting coming up so paid propagandists are coming out of the wordwork to radalize you into being more racist, homophobic, and alt right. It happens every time like clockwork. The good ol' epstin 4chan shittification. Dont let it fool you. God forbid people stay on topic and talk about manga.

>>8050315
*g-d

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I think I just need to do 2 or 3 more pages to finish the first chapter. Then I'll start the prologue, and then wrap it all up (make cover art, splash page art, formatting etc).