No more collages editionIf you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed rip: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/editNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread:>>8049181
based.
cringe thread do not post herewaiting for some chad to remake
>>8053561Good, fuck the collages. All they do is slow down the creation of new threads and leave the old one languishing on page 8/9 for days.If you want a collage then make it yourself and bake faster
daily mech
>>8053577you should try to add some humans in your pictures for a sense of scale.
This thread will be the one
>>8053579alr
Practicing with loomis like anons told me
>>8053589Huh, always thought the robots you depicted were gigantic, but apparently not
>>8053590Symmetry is not accurate here. Her right right eye is too far and her right side of mouth is smaller then her left side. You can check eyes from mouth: her left eye is where it should be in relation to mouth because mouths corner is where middle of her eye is. Also your noses need work, try to see what 3d forms make the nose and it will be easier to get those small details right.
>>8053577
>>8053590Direct frontal views are actually super hard. Almost-direct-frontal but with a very slight turn (like what you have here) is nightmare mode.You’ll have an easier time learning proportions and how to think in 3D if you start with 3/4ths views where there’s a more obvious turn to one side
>>8053598cheers anon, yeah I see the issues with symmetry you pointed out. Again the reference pic had quite faint shading so I had to improvise and just make everything bolder like the nose shadow. I think I should try to restrain myself from doing the sharp linework too soon, like I did on the nose and the lips. Ink is very unforgiving.
>>8053612Good tip. No point in making things harder for myself at this stage
Why did the schizo get to make the thread image, AGAIN?
>>8053621>muh schizo you're literally mind raped
>>8053621because (You) didn't
>>8053601fixed, thanks
>>8053626nice
Drew over someone else's drawing for shading practice
idk how to fix this
>>8053649It's just unfinished, you need to refine the forms more. And I suggest pushing the range of value, and it seems to be you don't know which direction your main light source is coming from.
>>8053649Oh and his legs are really awkward, seems like he's doing some sort of dance move.
>>8053656yeah that’s the part I’m struggling with:(
>>8053657Maybe something like this for inspiration? It's a bit crude since I did it with a mouse but hopefully it will help you a bit
>>8053626pretty much done i guess
Is it normal to forget anatomical knowledge? It's like I'll have a vague understanding of where stuff goes on the bone, but I can't remember exact insertion/exit points. Maybe I just haven't been studying enough? Small figure for tax, the goal was to break her down into shapes but I realized I don't actually have a good grasp on a lot of things
>>8053656he just needs to poop really bad but nurgle made him constipated
>>8053675Lighting looks flat and doesn't make too much directional sense
>>8053561cock, pls r8>>8053696of course, who tf can remember all that shit
Still working on this. I don't particularly care for the trend but I do want to quit my shitty job and try to make a living out of art so it has to be done.Painting and coloring is really hard.
>>8053696you never stop learning anatomy. sometimes you have to refresh yourself
>>8053736inshallah you make it
>>8053717that doesnt really help me improve unless you do a correction or at least specify. lighting was done my usual way
>>8053675this one might be my favorite of yours, mostly because colors are not muddy like before
>>8053649give him some trigger discipline
>>8053736>I don't particularly care for the trendngm
>>8053744teeth in the back are in the wrong perspecite. we should see the lower row, not upper
>Just draw>Do so happily and without issue>Start trying to battle the whitewater rapids of art learning resources/concepts battling to be the "right" one>Mood tanks into death spiralIs there a way to tank this, or is it legitimately better to just draw/practice and not give a fuck?
>>8053821the latter if youre stuck like me and cant do either you may as well kill yourself
I drew this.
>>8053821have fun
>>8053836did you get banned from vg or something?
>>8053838fox
Mmh
>>8053856I feel like most of my colored drawings improve whenever I turn the greyscale filter on.
>>8053856I think you hit diminishing returns a while agoit might be best to move on and draw something new
>>8053744You should spend more time honing your observational skills
>>8053860It's already finished, thank god.
>>8053621Bake faster next time
Finally managed to finish this one, on to more.
Oh boy it's my lucky day, free apple :))))
>>8053895I TOLD you to FIX the TITS
>>8053902uh oh
I do wonder where my apple has gone... hmmm.. has anyone seen it?
>>8053903Sorry, were you the one who said they were granny tits? I lifted the right tit a bit, how can I fix?
>>8053916>>8053902>>8053909kino
>>8053561damn, I am glad I didn't draw in the last thread!
>>8053573>All they do is slow down the creation of new threads and leave the old one languishing on page 8/9 for daysI fail to see the problem.
>>8053621really should be a bannable offense.>>8053872What for? What's the rush? The problem is imagine limit, which we rarely reach. Even then you could just draw without an audience for a few hours.
>>8053934>What's the rush?Uhh I get you are being all philosophical but I think he literally meant make the /beg/ thread banner quicker next timeThat doesn't take drawing it is more of a collage or kind of quick 5 minute graphic design
Im afraid of reading art books, and doing studies
>post in /beg/>only reply is some crab saying the brazilian is better>repeatwhy bother
>>8053958original stuff is scarier, you can spend countless hours and there's no guarantee the result won't be bad (or even worse, boring)
>>8053895i like the colors
I finally sat down and drew for longer than 15 minutes, I can't remember when was the last time I had the strength for that>>8053958same, one of my drives is almost completely clogged up by references, art books etc. and I'm adding more basically every day, yet it's as if I'm allergic to actually using it, even though I know that this is THE way to improve.I think it's the fear of failure, when doing studies there's only brutal honesty, you either succeed or you fail, no excuses
>>8053696Where did you get that ref?
>>8053856>>8053859I don't know, dude. To me, it looks like you draw in grayscale and then map the colors. While it's true that values > colors, color is a completely independent vector that also affects the viewer's perception too so you can't divorce color from the art piece. A mid-gray surrounded by the darkest black is going to read as bright, but also hue and saturation are vectors that can also amplify this effect. The Josef Albers color studies are great for hammering home those relationships try doing those. I did a quick edit on the armor, I think lowering the lightness and saturation of the teal makes it read closer to the grayscale you like.Incredible work as always, keep going!>>8053895fun colors super catchy>>8053902nice visual language>>8053977I'm going to suggest something many people will hate, choose a single book, delete everything else >:D or at least archive it and stop hoarding. A single good reference is worth a thousand bad ones. do the work and post it failure part of the game.
>>8053675this is really good
my first ever futa sketch, I first tried to draw a goblin with a fatty cock but felt horny and drew tits. I think I've unlocked a new fetish today. Torturing futa cocks till they are ultra sensitive like a woman's clit <333
>>8053989thanks for taking the effort. The teal really looked a bit too intense. Tuned it down like you said and am going to check out the color studies.
kinda funny this >>8053856 and this >>8054017can be in the same thread
>>8053841my marker already dying
>>8054017>first ever futa sketchMake this your only futa sketch. Turn back now. Unironically. Save your soul while you still can.
Another one.
I think "Just Draw" is the only truly epistemologically justified advice
>>8054108Yes. The thing is, how do you even get across all the vast information you need to learn and apply to a beginner? Yes, there are courses and books, but you need several of them and you need many many hours just going through the information, and even more hours applying what you think you've learned."Just draw" is the very distillment of all this, packed into a simple sentence anyone can understand.
>>8054080They both have clear problem areas they need to work on, so.This is basically the “help needed” thread
>>8053649Think of a better bg>>8053696>Is it normal to forget somethingWanted to answer questions but nobody even asks questions anymore, maybe it means people are actually trying to think for themselves
>>8054080>fugly mudshit>beg scribblesAt least the second one has soul
>>8054136whatever you say, dork
>>8054081noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosexe tho
>>8054118Why learn things you don't even know how to use? I'll draw whatever I want until I feel like learning something. Never gonna sacrifice fun again. "Just Draw is a bad advice" has misled me for years
>>8054142..That's what I'm saying.
>>8054140PUT MORE EFFOR PLEASE I /beg/ YOU
>>8054152no
The Effort is Fruitless
>>8054140>>8054155low effort garbage, same as always
>>8054164
Has anyone ever tried graphite putty?
>>8054170no but that looks mad fun
pls give crits, im wondering whats the ideal process on shading, like do i go dark to light then add highlights and shit or do i go mid to dark and light then idk, id appreciate some help
daily mech- kapool
>>8054175i suggest not going for realism when you're a pre-beglet
>>8054175>like do i go dark to light then add highlights and shit or do i go mid to dark and light then idin digital doesn't matter, do way you like morebut do hair mass before iris
>>8054175it seems you're afraid of darks, so I'd frequently go back and check the grayscale to see where you're offyou're also going for details when you havent resolved the major blockout of the hair or the different values of the bgbig -> small, squint
>>8054186if thats around my end goal, shouldnt i go for it out the rip?>>8054188>it seems you're afraid of darkswho isn't, haha. yeah, its still difficult for me to lean into contrast as hard as i have to. that grayscale trick will come in handy, thank you
>>8054196>if thats around my end goal, shouldnt i go for it out the rip?You shouldn't listen to every beg if it doesn't help you with what you're doing
I did a copy.I should have focused less on the hair. I think I wasted too much time on it.I will now color it.
>>8054178
i should try drawing chess pieces, i remember i got btfo by them before
>>8054245u want to get btfo draw a circular stair
>>8053561is there a /beg/ discord server?
>>8054260something like this right?
>>8054269yes, but you need to be accepted by the clique in order to join it
>>8054269There's like three of them, not counting the int server.
>>8053838>>8053841>>8054081What the fuck, these actually look good.Why aren't you drawing more of these?
anyone got any opinions on this bookgot it for free
>>8054282looks like pre-modern slop
>>8054245kek
am i eternal beg when this my level without refs? been drawing since 2018 and also did an art school for comic and graphic design in the meantime
>>8054280thicker lines are vaguer and appear less uncertain than thin lines
>>8054280im not monkey anon
>>8054287years are meaninglesshow many studies, finished illustrations, etc have you done since
>>8054282This is all I need to know about that book.
warm up doodle. doodling makes drawing from imagination really easy. I think I will do Nicolaides' book.>>8054069shango keep going>>8054193the fingers, palm, and wrist don't feel cohesive>>8054215great job, anon. you are learning, so keep your notes for the next one!>>8054270great job>>8054175take a step back, study and practice paul cezanne method. >ideal process on shadingit depends of the mood, intention, lighting, etc.>>8054187disagree the order of operations affects the end result. The underpainting is incredibly important, even in digital. Your perception is influenced by the surrounding values and colors.>>8054287its ok faces need to be appealing study schulz and shin chan maybe.
>>8054169is that supposed to be a dog? i'm sure toddlers can draw betteryou're not an artist, you're an imposter
>>8054310idk im cooked
>>8054319the wukong poster is based beyond all comprehension
>>8054310>great job, anon. you are learning, so keep your notes for the next one!Thank you!
I don't know what to draw.
fun study
>>8053561Practicing backgrounds, its kind of hard but im getting better i think.
Been trying to draw this guy's hand for an hour and it just doesn't wanna work out
>>8054375i think issue is that it doesnt look like it actually wraps around the barrel of the gun looks more like hes holding something like this
>>8054371I really like 2 and 6
I had a lot of trouble applying shadows. Supposedly you just need to create a Multiply layer then paint with the same color, but it didn't work well, so I just painted on the same layer with black/grey color in low opacity.It didn't come out well all the same, though.Since the colors were really dull, I tried applying several effects.
blogpost drawingapparently the Japanese think long hair means woman
>>8054397
Any sugestions how can I make it feels more appealing/dynamic? I think it's kinda bland
Do you guys recommend The Natural Way to Draw by Kimon Nicolaides?. I finished Keys to Drawing and while reading the Big Sticky link from the OP, it mentions Nicolaides. Should I go through the book or should I skip it?
After so many years and hours of drawing, I still don't understand how to actually draw anything. And every time, I have to go back to drawing boxes, hoping to grasp what comes naturally to the talented right from the start.
>>8054375Legitimately blackpilling how good you are. Just look at marielx who has been permabeg for 18 certified years.
>>8054371Some more, there is a lot of things that i dont know how to draw.
>>8054371>>8054454Quite wonderful.>>8054376Time to look at yourself in the mirror holding a shovel maybe? It'd be easier to get a family member to hold it as you find just the right pov with your camera.Having trouble working out what's happening with your foremost shoulder and upper arm, but I still reckon the drawing's terrific.
>>8054375
Crop of a wip, how am I faring?
>>8054474>terrificYeah the guy is insane. Barely a year drawing and already /pro/ material.
>>8054397kek
Do you read books and watch video courses or do you just copy stuff you want and or like?
>>8054454I like this one
>>8054482Needs more forms
>>8054371these are really good. I like #2 the most, but they're all good.>>8054375as the other anon said, time to get a mirror or camera. You are your best model.>>8054382don't bother with blending modes. They're used in animation because of the workflow they use, not because they can't get the color right away. It's great to experiment, but you need to know why they're used.>>8054411maybe something like this? Something a teenager would do, slouch, keep one shoulder close to the face because they're using their arms as a resting point.>>8054425>I finished Keys to Drawing and while reading the Big Sticky link from the OPthen draw, doodle, copy, and analyze art. The point of books like keys to drawing is that they lay out the fundamentals, and now you have a new language and concepts to analyze what you're seeing and why you like the things you like. Draw for a month.>>8054494>>8054454your scenery tends to look cramped and caged. I'm not saying to change the aspect ratio, but to draw things farther away to give a sense of open space.
>>8053679sexo
>>8054505>>8054324I don't know, dude. The fingers are a little too large. Maybe tone down the tendons with some line breaks. The palm and the forearm still look disjointed, but it's almost there. Keep going or move on to the next one.>>8054427try doodling and sketching. The first helped me visualize things and recognize patterns much more easily, and the second helped me find solutions to problems.
>>8054287drawing without refs requires specialized training
I do actually like Malfoid. Enjoy
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>>8054519So cute
>>8054516You're insane if you think I'm going to read any of that.
>>8054269/dad/
shitty Kakashi I tried freestyling
FfsThis drawing business is never going to get easier is it
does this look too much bumblebee?
Is it normal to fluctuate between I hate myself and I'm not gonna make it to liking what I draw
Crit please
Drew from life attempt
>>8053977I did that too, i have a big fear of failing, maybe thats why i dont commit my self to one thing, sometimes i have this feeling of finding the perfect material for me, and this time everything would be different
>>8054489Both.
>>8054566I like the idea, it could be fun! But I don't really see it as coming from a bus, and yeah, yellow immediately reads as Bumblebee. Maybe you can use more elements to push the idea further.A technique I've seen pros use is photobashing with a 3D model. It's way faster for playing around with ideas, and you can polish it later. It doesn't have to be perfect at first, it's brainstorming after all.Maybe the mecha thread can offer a better opinion, or even the robo dude. Keep going, I like your idea!https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/american-generic-school-bus-cf2dd11a405546baa8a8f14d8d5da0bc
>>8054611thanks for the honesty and positive energy. i think your mockup has a ton of charm, especially the stop sign codpiece lmaothe sketchfab link is really helpful, i'll keep working at it.
>>8054310rock rock onhttps://youtu.be/dnZtJpmzn6s?list=RDdnZtJpmzn6s
>>8053561Any opinions? I usually don't post finished stuff in /beg/ but I couldn't help but finish the thing.
>>8054637quite ugly desu
>>8053856>>8053859Muddy edgework and values. Some structural and perspective issues as well, but that’s par for the course at this point. Since it’s the same Pokémon gardevoir slop you usually post on Xitter I’m sure Elon will reward with you a gorilion likes regardless.
>>8054641An ugly mind can only produce ugly art I guess.
insomnia doodles
I draw like a bad elementary school student.Probably worse. I have been using 'fun with a pencil' by Loomis and 'Keys to drawing' by Dodson. Are there similar books recommended for drawing anime? or should I keep drawing ""from life"" until my drawings aren't so bad.
>>80546771. find art you wish to draw like2. trace the lineart to get a feel for how how the artist drew them3. try to draw it without tracing this time, observe the image and draw what you see4. compare your work with the ref5. fix most crucial mistakesrepeat from step 3 to step 5this process will skyrocket your growth, reading books won't.
>>8054668Your older faces were better.
>>8054516I'm insane enought to have read that. Nice speech desu.
>>8054668I'm not sure why but I find your art to be a bit mediocre. Something about the faces don't look good, maybe it's due to the inherent nature of the scratchy lines used or the proportions. Don't take this the wrong way though, I want you to become better and achieve success, this wasn't meant to be crab response.
>>8053947Well, some people really are tasteless and have dogshit opinions.I am convinced the OP is a permabeg. The disrespect towards art and artists will reflect in his low effort art.
>>8054696 It's because the boobs aren't big or graphic enough baka >>8054677 Keep doing what you are doing. People that only draw anime can only draw anime. They ape what they copy.
>>8054711>It's because the boobs aren't big or graphic enough bakakeep your retarded opinion to yourself, thanks.
>>8054696its because hes literally just a xerox copier
Colouring still doesn't make sense to me, I've been practicing for a while and yet it comes out looking muddy
>>8054715Proof?
>>8054716the professor?gud drawing btw
>>8054668frenchy you've gotten better at everything else. it's time to learn gesture and line confidence. it's time. trad for a while or something
>>8054668Get awey from these crabs holy fuckYour art is really good, just color and these are pro level
>>8054730it isn't crabbing. frenchy would ascend if he did a trad gesture run and learned line confidence. it's dragging him down. >>8054696has a point. the scratchy lines are going to keep on detracting from his art. the fundamental issue is that he has no line confidence and it's going to keep holding him back. he needs line confidence and he needs gesture
>>8054730>pro levelJesus, the standards here are hilarious
>>8054748nice
>>8054081Damn that's good. posting my whiteboard doodle i did a few days ago when i should have been practicing kanji
>>8054766very cute
>>8053696yup, thats why you "re-learn" something. keep in mind that our brains cant sustain a whole lot of knowledge on totally different topics, at least thats what happens to me. for example, i cant retain knowledge on math and drawing/painting, and i think the cause might be because they are very differents topics. on the other hand not being able to remember something doesnt means you lost that knowledge completely since it will be easier and faster on a relative way to get to the same level of understanding and execution when you "re-learn", hence since we cant go opposite to our biological limits changing the study topic from "not forgeting" to "re-learning faster" is to my understanding the right thing to do.PD: idk how kim jung gi and better artists than us all can and are able to retain and execute a lot more information than us.PD2: well, it is true that you cant draw something you not know like a "venusian" (a being from venus). so taking this idea as a base trying to draw a car with the "general-basic knowledge" (that everyone uses) will not yield the results you are lookin for and theorically it might not be related nor have something to do with "skill" and or "execution/technique" but with a lack of knowledge. thats why, i think its crucial to have a good understanding of the entity we triying to draw, and it is in some way comparable to drawing the human figure (the thing we all do in this thread), since someone with a basic and general knowledge about a person (the human figure) cant and will not be able to draw it.
a scene from the sword of doom
daily mech (and shit)
>>8054831maybe try something out of your comfort zone for once
>>8054831these are boring
>>8054836>>8054832im sick niggas can you chill
trying to draw fisheye perspective of two bodiesdon't know how to make the limbs
>>8054831alternative version i played with
real sex!!!11>>8054319all that matters is tit!>>8054294sexe>>8054348hihiihihih >33>>8054280i like shitposting more
>>8054280also only middle one is mine
>>8054848idk, i just reinterpreted your lines into something of my own so it might be wrong, thats your decision.
>>8054858that's more or less what i wanted, so it's just 1 point?
>>80548604p
>>8054831
>>8054860i cant say for sure it is just 1-point (since i used your drawing as information), but lets see an example and the theory behind this. in one point perspective vertical and horizontals dont converge to a point, thats is they are parallel in our canvas. but in fisheye perspective (5-point) verticals and horizontal do converge in our canvas, they curve to one of the 4 points in the circunference. so basically no, its not just 1-point but 5-point perspective. i can be wrong, thats up to you.
>>8054877alright then, i guess you points where further away than mine though hence why they worked betterthanks regardless
>>8054879your*were*lol, ftfm
>>8054732Why does your work looks like a nig with a flat face
>>8054880Also farther* since he's referring to physical distance.
>>8054876slopped it out but i think it should be less boring from a design perspective at least
>>8054876good job
>>8054382i dont quite get your point but if you look closely on the ref you will see a slight gradation that goes from lighter to darker top-down on the face, and its most like that the same applies to all other areas giving the ref a sence of ¿volume? or at least not looking too plain like in some old cheap anime or your attempts...
>>8054884oh yeah
>>8054727You are my greatest ally anonMy lines usually get more clean when I do a new line layer over the initial sketch, like picrelI'll try to do full body dynamic figures next time
>>8053977>you either succeed or you fail, no excusesthats not the right mindset, theres no black or white situation in life, everything is relative and a gradient between two points, so if you change that way of thinking about the process of learning to something like "no matter what i drew today or the quality, i at least drew something" you will eventually make it a habbit. and since things arent also static, this way of thinking will hopefully evolute into something that will take into account quality. everything has to be grinded, from simple isolated lines to abstract concepts like shape design, silhouette, etc.in other words, you are putting too much pressure on the solely act of drawing and learning.take it or leave it, im not trying to impose myself on to you.
>>8054898nah, no need to do that, just crank up your stabilizer knob and do continuous larger strokes. /s
How do I get better with gesture? I've been copying Hampton and don't know what else I could do to improve.
>>8054898nice
>>8054903>what else I could dox1000
>>8054903There's not much theory behind gestures, you just need to do A LOT of them. In other words, keep at it
>>8054903try using a simple normal ref and not just copy the drawing book? try using the knowledge you just gained from the book to draw from imagination? try one of those two and if you fail you will have information about what to do next, and that could be also getting into existencial thoughts about the "why", "how", and "when" to use gesture...
>>8054906>>8054909So draw more. Got it.>>8054912Pic above was from quickposes so I was not copying just from the book per say, but I will try drawing from imagination next. Thanks for the heads up.
>>8054903>>8054912 to further add, at your level you dont know why are you doing this or that, you are just copying, and to probe that let me ask you "do you know why are you using those marks that goes around the arms/legs?" "do you know why you are just using a single line to depict an arm/leg?" and if you dont know thats the problem. you didnt gave those two aspect your own interpretation, your own meaning, you dont have an idea of yours that explains why you are using them, why you NEED TO DRAW them. and in some cases you will eventually know if you keep drawing, in other you might want/need more information on the topic to finally make the concept yours. so in escence, you are not drawing the outline of the body, you are drawing the "action", the "direction", the "force", and all of them will take you some time to understand. idk man, just keep drawing and take my rambling with tweezers...
>>8054898thank you for listening Frenchie. you will ascend as I stated previously soon. inshallah . keep doing lines like the image attached and gesture and you will be able to create doujinshi just like the masters
>>8054921(your image attached not my image attached. i was just returning pretty girl study for pretty girl study)
>>8054916damm, you should have said that earlier, i rambled a little bit overboard and was being a little bitter, xd...
>>8054921man, i think you are having a "value bleeding" problem. that is, a value that belongs to the shadow area is in the light area...
>>8054890kek
>>8054920>>8054925No problem dude, I appreciate the feedback. I have been permabeg for 2 years (quit drawing half way thru) and I was stuck with doing drawabox and Brent Eviston with no end goal. I only picked up Hampton recently and watched most of his videos on gesture. I do get your frustration of begs not understanding what they are doing so I need some reality check sometimes.
>>8054930thank you for giving me an actual term name for wtf is going on because i haven't been able to figure out where i went so wrong the light side is way too dark on my study
>>8054935>>8054930i did a quick edit on my phone and the gears are turning thank you so much
>>8054930What book is this?
>>8054939If there only was a name of the author in the image, we would know
>>8054939nvm I found it
>>8054939>>8054945"Artists' Master Series - Color & Light - Charlie Pickard, Djamila Knopf, Guweiz, and Nathan Fowkes">>8054935>>8054938good to know man, keep painting.>>8054934yeah man, i remember drawing/painting without knowing, i also sometimes dont know whats going on, why it isnt working, etc.
I thing I'm about to give up on trad and go back to digital, everything is so much harder, especially colors
>>8054955Yeah trad is harder but way more rewardingLooking at a canvas/drawing in real life is so much better than looking at art through a screen
>>8054902>>8054727Could you show me some pure linework that you feel demonstrates really good line confidence?
hello, never posted on /ic/ before. i drew this while in the psych ward, a few weeks ago. unsure where i can just post drawings, so i'll post it here. i am hopelessly bad at it.
>>8054876
>>8054968start incorporating, texture and noise to your work
>>8054858>>8054848oh yeah fellasi know how to make the points and extent the lines and shit but how do you then make the cubes based on this perspective? like yeah some lines can match the vanishing point lines but what if the cube is tilted for example?
>>8054961idk if picrel satisfies you, but it does make sense to me. also, even i dont know how the f do some artists make "atrocious" sketches with awesome linearts/outcomes. something that could explain that behaviour would be "speed", the speed necessary to download/transfer an idea from your mind/imagination to the canvas, and also the fact that if you invest too much effort on a "good line" but the overall image is fcked up you essentially have lost your time because you have to make corrections to compensate the image, breaking in the process your "good lines". so its dynamic, relative, subjective and a balance between different factors...
>>8054974thats easy, the 5 vanishing points can only produce a cube in an certain rotation, so when you have a lot of cubes in different rotations you effectevely have a lot of vanishing points per rotated cube. to prevent the bad outcome of drawing all of this you just reference the grid and or constrain your drawings to the inside of the cubes/boxes the grid lets you draw...or thats what i understand, feel free to investigate more on the topic...
>>8054978No anon, but I could be clearer. I’d like to see finished work, hopefully in its original size (though this is hard to find, so anything goes), from a professional artist. This is subjective, so it’s not a gotcha thing, I just want to understand him better.
>>8054988nice
>>8054983ok but what if like i said i wanted to tilt it a bit? like same cube and position but tilted
>>8054966How do people even get into psychewards, you're either a tranny or a fag, men usually just kill themselves. not even trying to bully you anon, just curious
>>8054668Brother, can you tell me what books and courses you took? Your stuff is beautiful No offense to others, of course. Most of it is beautiful, especially the mech guy's
>>8055003what about me huh?
another from the hospital
>>8054890based Rolf, son of Rolf from the noble house of Rolf painting, but I don't think mount & blade with its blocky models and dated textures is the best resource to learn from
>>8054752Thanks.
>>8054876thatsa cool robot shape>>8055048get well soon
>>8054948I'll keep on trying anon
hi, im trying to get better at art, could you guys give some advice!my twitter is @chizuimomochi
>>8055076you are not the person, probably a random stalker>xitter filename>blog out of nowhere
>>8055078not advice.....
>>8055084my advice is leave whoever that person alone
>>8055084>Not poster's own artwork.
>>8055078this, so obvious>>8055076shoo shoo schizo
What should i learn to improve books courses etc
>>8055094https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DbIG9jmjI4
Garbagio
at what stage should you be at in drawing before joining an art group? people seem hostile towards beginners, even here.
>>8055110looks like kindgom hearts nobody design
>>8055111pro, and not a skill level lower.
Is this how you are supposed to do pose practise? It doesn't feel right.
drawing portraits is so fucking difficult
>>8055129draw bigger, 1 figure per pagelook at your ref moreuse something like https://imgur.com/N9drytO to be accurate
>>8055138why draweng bigger
>>8055138>>8055141Yeah, I thought the point of this exercise is to quickly draw the pose, you don't need detail for that.Picrel can be useful, but I don't see what it has to do with the pose practise.
>>8055141it lets you add more information and makes it easier to see mistakes
>>8055126wawa mama wolf
>>8054683not op, but how do I learn the technical skills that the artist im copying know?
dunno, gotta work on the background. Any suggestions?
I'm not satisfied with the helmet yet. Might have to change the design entirely.>>8054376Yeah it wasn't angled right. Drawing hands is already hard, making them look like they're firmly gripping something is even harder. Thank you for the help.>>8054477That helped quite a bit. Thank you.>>8054474Is it a little more readable now? It's supposed to be a big rounded pauldron.
>>8055173>Guys please stroke my ego once more.Fucking talentedfucks.
>>8055182Fuck off nodraw schizoid.
>>8055184I draw but without talent and seeing someone who got gifted /int/ in a couple months causes me great distress. If I had half his talent I would really like drawing and wouldnt bother anyone
>>8055188Do you even draw? Do you ever post your work? Do you ever ask for help?People reach his skill because they practice, complaining about lack of talent every fucking thread won't do anything for you.
>>8055182i hate talent so much.
>>8055190>Do you even draw? Do you ever post your work? Do you ever ask for help?nta, i did all the above and all I ever get is "draw more" or "notalent"
>>8055197based
I have been working on an art for my dnd kitsune.
>>8055195talent doesnt exist, i have persevered over hundreds of hours of not knowing what to do, and how to improve. so based on this what really exists is a difference on the way you endure pain, and to some extend "what do you see as pain".
Do women have a shorter middle third than men? Tracing over images of real people, men seem to be the only ones where the middle third and lower third are equal
>>8055190>People reach his skill because they practice, complaining about lack of talent every fucking thread won't do anything for you.People reach his skill because they are talented. No amount of hardwork, practice, courses or cheating with 3d will make up a lack of talent. Just look at this guy>>8055126 who has been drawing for a solid decade and couldnt get perspective or anatomy and is being mogged by a fucking huemonkey not even a year in. Tell me a single fucking anon who is at Megas level. You wont find shit and much less someone who got that good in a year.Why do you niggers refuse to accept that some just are talented and some arent? Life is easier for others in all aspects of life not just art.>>8055203>Hundreds of hoursTry thousands. This is something you talentniggers will never get. That some anons just cant learn no matter how much time they pour into it because they werent gifted. Look at Proko who is a glorified copy monkey grifting courses or Powell. A talentfag can make it to int in a hundred hours while permabegs will remain begs all of their life.>PainWhat fucking pain? Doing something you enjoy because you were gifted at? Go fuck yourself you gloating piece of shit.
all this because this nigga is bad at drawing. just go do litreally anything else instead of performing self cuckoldry on 4chan
>>8055206>no work postedWhy are you so worried about talent when you literally don't draw?
>>8055209the schizo doesn't drawit's all just an excuse to shit on the ones that actually draw
>>8055211if thats true then its even more retarded, litreally what is he doing here? on one of the smallest boards on the site
>>8055212Probably the same guy that shilled AI a few threads ago.He used to run peoples work through prompts and rave about how JeetPT and Grok were so good at giving critiques.Here's a rundown on your average permabeg schizo:>draws nothing but boxes and circles for thirty minutes everyday then wonders why they're not improving>never branches out and tries new things>never spent a day in their life actually grinding, can't sit still longer than an hour before getting bored and browsing 4chan/youtube/xitter>never posts their work, only complains and harasses other begs that do draw>I DREW EVERYDAY (for like ten minutes lmao) AND HAVEN'T IMPROVED BECAUSE I HAVE NO TALENT>proceeds to spend their time doing literally anything else other than fucking drawing
>>8054921who are you copying there?
>>8055237study of https://fixupx.com/shikarii_shambu/status/2104579709669707874
>>8055097I watched this but it dosent seem to answer much, his advice is just dont do too many copies and dont do too many still lifes.I already rotate from master copies too, drawing from reference and life.Im trying paint now, i seem to already be better than a complete beginner but they are coming off flat a bit like some of El Grecos figures. Ill post some later
>>8055151indeed haha, very nice character>>8055206did i do smth to upset you? I know i could have drawn better, im just trying to chill and have fun.
>>8055251It's just the village idiot. You can ignore it.
>>8053561Some loomis eye practice
