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how did a country with less people than the netherlands create a globally competitive fighter jet?
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>>196487181
they imported american engine


it is basically more fancy f16
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>>196487243
silence zigger
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>>196487243
Gripen engines are so modified that if you gave them back to the Americans they wouldn't know how to service them.
How are Russian jet engines? Still using crude oil as fuel?

Gripens will be heeming Suckhois over Ukraine soon.
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Quality > Quantity
The US used to understand what human capital is before importing the bottom of the barrel from all around the world

>>196487299
>obsession with ukraine in completely unrelated topic
If you're an actual swede, which isn't a given on /int/, you're dumb as shit since historically Sweden benefited tremendously from remaining neutral. Now the pink haired idiots who like to slurp US cum think subjecting your country's policies to a foreign geopolitical block is a good idea. It's funny because even India understands you can try to play both sides, what matters is putting your own country first, but suicidal modern westerners hate themselves anyway.
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>>196487506
cope
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>>196487555
Enjoy the Meteor missiles.
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>>196487181
Autism. Look at how they used to make cars.
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>>196487666
you probably entered captcha but i didn't
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>>196487528
The fact that we joined nato made the last tiny sliver of hope I had for sweden disappear. How can we be the amicable friendly sweden if we are in nato? Fuck all these faceless brotherhood’s. The world did not need another pew pew country, it needed a diplomat.
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they have smart high IQ engineers and have smart politicians to support those smart people
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>>196487506
The only thing you do is gripen Americhad cocks LMAO!
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>>196487733
Swedish neutrality hasn't been taken seriously for decades nor our role as an ombudsman. The charade is over.
Also it would be a real shame if we missed out on the coming balkanisation of Russia.
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>globally competitive
there's like three countries in the world outside of sneeden that use it
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>>196487986
in a world of bribery and political pressure we are the smallest fish
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>>196487986
Gripen is used on 4 continents.
Rafael is only used on 3 continents.
More global than you Pierre.
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>>196487181
Armed neutrality and the Wallenberg family (owner of Saab) influence on Swedish politics.
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f16 = ejects you, if you read communist manifesto
gripen = don't eject (probably)

this is why it is sold
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>>196487825
>Also it would be a real shame if we missed out on the coming balkanisation of Russia.
do you guys really believe it?
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>>196487181
We are very smart and industrious. And humble.
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>>196487181
I've been working, rebuilding and living inside the Tunnan for decades.
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>>196488379
It is inevitable.
It is the only remaining European empire and all empires collapse eventually.
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>>196488377
>gripen = don't eject (probably
DEBUNKED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Q0Qywyd_4
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>>196488379
If someone's talking about Russia 24/7 there's a huge chance they're a slav or worse (which would include georgians, armenians, etc.)
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fun fact: 1 syllable = prop, 2 syllables = jet
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>>196488568
keep slurping that russian cum
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>>196488471
Rusia has the same chances of balkanizing as the USA or China, which are 0. it's silly to think that this modern world, which is way more peaceful and stable than the past will make any of the big players disappear.
The EU has way more higher chances of disappear than Russia (and I think the EU is not collapsing neither).
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>>196487825
Sweden is being flooded with muslims and niggers and you think joining the bloc owned by the country that promotes those things the most is a good idea, you're so bright!
And since you seem to be a slav you'll probably accuse me of saying you should align with Russia even though I never said that, because of course slaves only know the binary worldview mastah provided them. It does not even occur to you for a second to put Sweden first and be pragmatic (like even Finland did the past century - sure, they had to make some concessions to the USSR, but at least Finland remained Finnish and that's the most fundamental thing a country should care about, meanwhile you're defending a bloc whose philosophy is erasing Swedes)
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>>196488612
lol I didn't even finish writing my previous post and my predictions were already right. You're a slavic piggy, aren't you? Pro-tip, buckwheat nigger: not every country on the planet defines their existence as a function of Russia
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>>196488657
>>196488683
You don't understand Russia. The history goes back a thousand years at this point.
Please keep your mind on South American things like playing football and robbing tourists.
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>>196487528
>Sweden benefited tremendously from remaining neutral.

Sweden was to be nuked in the event of a nuclear war against NATO.
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Faggot Swedes lost to Russia so hard they sat the next two world wars out lmao
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>>196488871
We will see who has the last laugh but seeing how the Russian military is performing against decades old surplus NATO equipment in Ukraine I have a feeling it wont be you.
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>>196487181
>Gotland
Pleb
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>>196488798
and they have been more or less the same since they get freed from the Mongol rule. they are not balkanizing, in any case, Putin dies or goes away and they cannot find anyone capable to replace them and crash their country hard, just like they did in the 90's, but not much than that.

it's silly to think that some Siberian oblast will part away, maybe Chechens revolt again and become independent, but all the European side and Siberian land will remain united under a Russian state.
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It is what we did best, produce quality engineers.
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>>196488999
Post wars swedish cuck race has won, I'll wait
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>>196489046
You have your opinion and I have mine. I have traveled quite a bit in Russia as part of my job before they invaded Crimea in 2014 after which we had to abandon our plans and go home again.
"Russians" living east of the Urals have nothing in common with Russians living in Moscow let me tell you and the amount of propaganda they have to shove down their throats on that side of their empire to keep them in line is very telling. I can't even imagine how crazy it must be now with all the Z shit going on.
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>>196489225
i based my opinion on the principle that NOTHING EVER HAPPENS, that's why i think russian will still be around for the rest of this century.

of course, i might be very wrong and the world change for the best and interesting geopolitical things start to happen again.
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Do you love Sweden?
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We blocked a sale of them to Argentina because they use bong avionics :)
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>>196490280
bit rude innit
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>>196490280
we finally got some f-16 almost gifted to us from Denmark, that we are probably going to use for the next 40 years because the MALVINAS war buck broke us so bad that we no longer spend any money on the military.
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>>196487555
>russian air force
lol
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>>196489868
Even if there were breakway states in Siberia that would just lead to more wars, it's insanely stupid to think it'll be as balkanized as Europe. But then again Europe is full of overgrown babies who think there's no such thing as different countries and peoples, you can copy paste public policy, geopolitical models and everything else. And they can afford to remain ignorant because they live in sheltered welfare states.

>>196490363
You don't have money for anything, not only the military. Even wineries were closing shop because they didn't earn enough to justify the upkeep. At least Milei is talking about sending money to Israel and Ukraine while proles are eating old dogs :^)
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Sweden ppl make 6th gen gets?
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>>196487733
the only reason you never joined nato is because denmark and norway founded it and it would be too shameful for sweden to admit that we were right
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>>196488379
Maybe not soon, but I really do wonder what's going down when Putin kicks it.
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>>196491423
its because being in nato is being americas lapdog
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>>196487181
>globally competitive
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>>196491486
*norway's lapdog
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>>196491621
oh no you tricked us
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>>196488871
woooow we lost to a country with 10 times our population and who were allied with denmark,norway, prussia and poland.
damn
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>>196490363
It's a shame desu, Argentinian pilots were considered the best by bong pilots.
Then again one got shot down by a fucking warrior ifv
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>>196491850
and also after burning down half of their own country to weaker our army first



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