the Global Similarity Graph edition>What language(s) are you learning?>Share language learning experiences!>Ask questions about your target language!>Help people who want to learn a new language!>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!Read the wiki:https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_WikiUseful links:>Free language-learning book archive:https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua (embed) [Embed]>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>List of trackers for most language-learning packs:https://files.catbox.moe/nmrn8x.txt [Embed]>Ukrainianon's list of commercial courses from rutracker.org:https://archive(dot)is/R2feT>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familyhttps://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentshttps://rentry.org/inpoot>>196973128
When might be the best time to open this thread
>>197051087>Turkish and VietnameseHuhAlso why the fuck do Dravidian languages have no interconnections?
>>197051087What is that graph showing i dont get itsimilar in what ways?
>>197051087Why are Finnish and 'stonian so far away from each other?
>>197051894>>197052055>>197052106I don't know https://blog.gdeltproject.org/gdelt-translingual-translating-the-planet/This pic is just random stuff shared on my private chat. I haven't read it yet
>>197051087wtf? Slovak is closer to English and Spanish than to other Slavic languages, French is closer to German than to English.Either I get it incorrect or there's something wrong there...
>>197052255>SlovakSlovenian
>>197052247https://blog.gdeltproject.org/global-similarity-graph-visualizing-language-overlap/Something went wrong with this method
>>197052255>Mongolian and Turkish are in the opposite corners>Lithuanian is closer to Albanian and Greek than to most Slavic languages>Portuguese>Azerbaijani is far away from Turkish>Albanian is closer to Polish than to Balkan Slavic languages other than Macedonian>Macedonian itself is closer to Romanian and Slovak than to Serbian or Bulgarian>Gujarati is not connected to Punjabi or Urdu, but is close to PersianIt's shit.
>>197052470>Mongolian and Turkish are in the opposite cornersShouldn't they?
>>197052596At the very least they have similar syntax and a fair amount of loanwords from one to another.
>>197051087Shit graph.
Damn Chinese e and a are sometimes difficult to distuingish
How do I know what levels these are. They're from the torrent in the wiki/sticky
>>197052470I meanTurkish being closer to Vietnamese than Azeri should tell you that this graph is nonsense
>>197053443Nivel I = low A2Nivel II = high A2Nivel III = B1
>>197053676I'm uploading some Spanish graded readers right now. Will probably make a torrent in the future.
>>19705344351 Spanish graded readers (properly graded by me):Part 1: https://mega.nz/file/VTolHKxD#fUtI217loVDUCgO33T1bxPzNBnuqFK3cwkfilKOZ0ZEPart 2: https://mega.nz/file/1GRQHKyI#yJAcFDOAC3RmL6NuCfR5Y97VUT7JKvgp_YxTdV1BiZ8Part 3: https://mega.nz/file/gPZjhLIZ#rVPIApxazrNBpTA066jmGWjS3uAVQhVZFl72p0jIAs4Part 4: https://mega.nz/file/pWg2zLjC#ZpPUE81rgS6JSdL31iEIQ26cH8oYfk8OnJCnMnNX5wE
>>197053964>>197054069basado
j q x zh ch sh r z c s sonds are currently bottlenecking my Mandarin studies
I don't know why I'm so tempted by Japanese when I don't even care about Japanese culture that much and I don't really watch anime (and when I do I usually dub it). I tried a few years ago and i unironically enjoyed learning kanji but I just wasn't dedicated to it enough.
>>197054069Thanks Chad
>>196979387Du bist nachlässig.Sie betrachten uns.Mein Handy war kaputt.Feuerwerke explodierte in der Ferne.Kinder pflückten Blaubeeren aus den Büschen.Ich habe ihn vielleicht aus dem Treppe abstoßen. Je bent achteloos.Ze beschouwen ons.Mijn telefoon was kapoot.Vuurwerk ontplofften in de verte.Kinderen waren bosbessen uit de struiken aan her plukken.Ik heb hem misschien uit de trap geduwd.
Convince me not to learn chink
>>197056629DO NOT
Me encanta el verano.
>>197052247>on my private chat are your friends also language autists?
>>197053210if i can then you should be able to distinguish them as well as a finn>>197056930it's primavera rn
>>197057367>it's primavera rnHace sol y mucho calor. Estás equivocado
>>197057367>it's primavera rnthismar-apr-may = springjun-jul-aug = summersep-oct-nov = autumdec-jan-feb = winter
>>197057765Nov - Dec - Jan - Feb = WinterMar - Apr = SpringMay - Jun - Jul - SummerSept - Oct = Autumn
>>197057819ok agree to disagree>May - Jun - Jul - Summerwhats august then
>>197057819May - Jun - Jul - Aug = Summer*
how far have you gotten in your icelandic studies today anons?surely you're working real hard
>nooooo you CAN'T learn Japanese from le ANIME and le MANGA! You'll get stuck talking like a heckin' CARTOON character!!! You should just do boring shit you don't enjoy until you give up!
>>197057819Meanwhile in Greece: Jan - Feb = WinterMar - Apr = SpringMay - Jun - Jul - Aug - Sept - Oct = SummerNov - Dec = Autumn
>>197057744>Hace sol y mucho calor. Estás equivocadothat's exactly what primavera is like in mexico. when i was a kid i was often confused when seeing (american-produced) shows in which primavera was this beautiful green season of occasional rain and balmy weather since here it's dry, hot and most plants are dead
>>197058192Here spring is moslty just cloudy weather with rain except temperatures have moved beyond freezing. Any sun that breaks through is still too weak. Around May the Sun begins to warm and we have days like today, where the temperature moves higher towards 20 degrees celsius/
>>197058328Oh, and blue skies. You know it's summer because everything has an unmistakable vividness that only comes around with the season.
>>197058328>where the temperature moves higher towards 20 degrees celsius/later today temperatures will reach 37c and i don't have ac :(
Do y'all think Farsi could be profitable?
>>197056629it's great and you should. I love those logograms
>>197058555Damn, how do you cope with such high temperatures?It may sound crass but having experienced both really hot and really cold weather, I'd much prefer the heat, for the simple fact that you can still go outside so long as you stay in shade.When it's winter here for long periods, entire months, going outside means physically battling to stay warm. With so much rain you begin to avoid going out altogether and lots of people develop vitamin deficiencies. I also just love warm weather.
>>197058603Dutch Embassy is looking for Russian, Arabic, Farsi, Mandarin/Chinese. (Anti-Globohomo axis)It's probs the same in other Western countries but prob not in Argentina.
>>197058603Resimdeki adam milei yi andırıyor bıraz
>>197058836>Damn, how do you cope with such high temperatures?he's brown>It may sound crass but having experienced both really hot and really cold weather, I'd much prefer the heat, for the simple fact that you can still go outside so long as you stay in shade.really? i hate summer so much it makes me depressed, and i avoid going outside because it's so fucking hot.i grew up in the mountains and winters here are pretty cold, but i much prefer -15°C to +30°C. just dress warm and walk fast, and it's all good
Sevgilimin kulak fetişi var :/
>>197058836>how do you cope with such high temperatures?i sweat like a pig>for the simple fact that you can still go outside so long as you stay in shade.i feel like this year is hotter than the last one. the air itself feels hot, both indoors and out, in the shade or not in the shade >With so much rain you begin to avoid going out altogether and lots of people develop vitamin deficiencies.i much prefer rain, cloudiness and cold weather (coldest it gets here is 1-3c, though). i grew up in Cwb and sometimes it rained everyday for a whole month and i miss it. where i live now it's BSh and it rains like maybe 14-21 days a year and it's usually very brief and inconsequential or it suddenly starts pouring the hell out and then goes away in a few hours >>197059338kys
>>197059514it was the one time i didn't mean it in a racist way, since if you're brown you are better suited for sustaining hot climates.
>>197059347>男朋友n'es-tu pas un tchœud ?>>197059589okay, retard
>>197059338>just dress warm and walk fastNah I hate this.I'd be in heaven if most of the year I could just go outside wearing sliders with a loose silk shirt and some shorts.I drove a motorbike around a beach city for work most of one summer and I can't tell you how nice it is. My idea of paradise is doing that and renting out a cheap room in a town centre somewhere where it never gets cold. I wouldn't care about money or having a partner or owning my own home or any other bullshit.
>>197059710ultraviolet light rays penetrating your skin causes skin tanning to protect the skin from sunburn, which is much more likely to happen in yt peepo than in blax. burnt skin causes skin cancer, see australia. (this is bad) hope this helps >>197059837go to australia (don't)
>>197059710tchœud ne demek ya yeni kelimeler icat mi ediyorsun
>>197060234surement tu peut déduire par la prononciation ce que je veux dire ? >>197059974and what does that have to do with heat perception, 'tard?
>>197060676hm true i guess, time to suffer then
mini challenge: stop being silly. a white truck is following us. i found 20 bucks outside the laundromat*.i could see nothing with all the fog around. i kept knocking on the door but no one answered.a couple of __bird species you like__ made their nest outside my window. * replace this with another location if you don't know how to say laundromat
>>197060676'chud' demek istediğini çıkarım yapabildim bilmemezlik yaptım sadece :D>>197060896saçmalamabeyaz bir kamyon bizi takip ediyorçamaşırhanenın dışarısında 20 dolar buldumher dört taraf sisliyken hiç birşey göremedimkapıya sürekli vuruyordum ama hiç kimse cevap vernedipenceremin dışında iki karga yuva kurdu(karga en sevdiğim kuş değil buarada başka kuş türü aklıma gelmediği için onu yazdım)
>>197060896Пepecтaнь быть глyпымБeлый гpyзoвик cлeдyeт зa нaмиЯ нaшeл двaдцaть дoллapoв вoзлe cтиpaльнoй мaшиныЯ ничeгo нe yвидeл cpeди этoгo тyмaнa, oкpyжaющий нacHeмнoгиe вopoны cдeлaли гнeздo зa нaшим oкнoм
>>197061484>'chud' demek istediğini çıkarım yapabildim bilmemezlik yaptım sadece :D
I want to read the Warrior Cats series (for the first time ever) in German. Can a German-knowing anon who has read the series before tell me in which order I should read them? I just found the books on libgen and I don't even know what I should download
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>>197062067Read them in the order they were published originally in English.Good choice btw, I read the first one in French. It was difficult at first but once you learn more words related to animals and nature, it becomes easier.
>...qu'elle savait, en conséquence, la danse, la géographie, le dessin, faire de la tapisserie et toucher du piano. Ce fut le comble !intéressant. perhaps in the 19th century it was the verb toucher that was used to mean that you could play an instrument instead of jouer (which also means to play like a game as in english) which is used today? in spanish it still is tocar
what’s the longest streak you’ve had with learning your language. I get about 2 months of daily learning then I give up for 3 months, it’s impossible
this is my main chinese deck i had a much longer streak with my french deck but it already got erased
post a song in your TL
>>197065285>>197065449
>>197065285a 8 month streak two years ago when I learned 90% of the things that I know
>>197065285I haven't missed a day since I started German 563 days ago, but admittedly, it's easier to be consistent when it doesn't feel like work and there's always something interesting to watch or read.
>>197063604Will do, merci. I love kots and the series picked my interest ever since I came across it. I'm very much willing to struggle through it. I just finished watching this documentary about this guy who saves cute owls and other birds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hvt0PiMaGY I guess I should watch more German documentaries related to nature & animals to pick up relevant vocab before I start Warrior Cats.>>197065285Does English count? That would be 12 years of non-stop daily consumption, if not then 1.5 years of Japanese. I was very dedicated, learning kanji and grammar, fighting through light novels with Yomichan and shit. It was fun. Now I just consume Japanese passively and my "learning mode" goes to German.
>>197054069These should be put in the mega or the wiki. Idk who is in charge of that though
>>197058836I don't mind the heat so much, as long as there's shade, or trees, or even just grass to absorb some of the heat. It can be pretty fucking brutal if you're walking in a parking lot of something though.It gets extremely humid where I live and a lot of people hate it, but I love it. Like a big warm wet hug every time you step outside. Idk how people live in cold places with dry air.
>>197066956>Like a big warm wet hug every time you step outside.sounds horrible
This is a really important question: How to maintain your TL once you get married/have kids?Being a polyglot (6-7 languages) is impossible if you are married and gives weirdo vibes, so I won't do that.However, as you may know, I am learning Mandarin now and it'll be the only foreign language I'd learn besides English.I won't marry a Chinese girl, at least I don't expect to, I don't know life, but if I marry let's say some average woman and she'd be like, oh my husband literally learned Chinese without needing to live there for fun, what kind of a fucking weirdo autist he is?Am I overthinking this? Can I just tell her it's my hobby and be done with it?I am going to learn Chinese(Mandarin) so I can have fun, fuck around in WeChat, befriend Chinesebros, watch Chinese movies, check Chinese news, just become a consumer of Chinese stuff out of curiosity, maybe play Chinese games or something.I wouldn't tell anyone I am doing this, for some reason everyone that found out I am learning foreign languages gave me this "But why? it's useless" looks.
My English is taking a shit today, idk why I am writing like an A2 but you get the point... How to explain learning a random, exotic language like Chinese to people IRL?Not your coworkers or some random bloke they can fuck off, I am talking about people you care about.Hey wife, I am gonna do some Chinese input today.It would be weird, no?
>...blamed the Greens for the government delaying the duelling of the A9 road,what does duelling mean here?
>>197065938what do you watch? Trying to improve my German here as an "expat"
>>197069067>>197069238Just learn a non-ick language like Spanish, French or German.
>>197069067>>197069238I think your best bet is to date an educated girl. Not even someone with a formal university education, necessarily, but someone who appreciates learning. A woman who loves chess will probably appreciate a man who is interested in life-long learning, whether he's studying foreign languages or just wants to write poetry.
>>197069970My best bet without context would be that it involved expanding the size of the road, either to two directions if it was a one way or doubling the lanes
>>197069970It sounds like they meant to say "dualling", which means adding a second road for traffic going in the other direction. Like in my picture. The author probably confused "duel" and "dual".
>>197069238You are man, Jordie, yes? If your wife gives you shit about what you do with your free time, you don't have to explain yourself, you can just bitch slap her, maybe even legally kill her in your country and then marry 3 other wives that are more supportive with your goals.>>197070231YouTube, Twitch, series, movies, anime etc. Most new series and movies that come out also get a German dub on the same day or after a couple weeks.https://s.to/https://cine.to/https://aniworld.to/
>>197070748Which one's the best? French, Spanish, or German?
>>197073621
>>197073881get off my ass, socrates
>>197073981Nope.
>>197074235i will call plato!!!!!!
>>197074418holy shit i've been here for over 2 years
>>197074401You know that Plato was Socrates' student, right?>>197074476That's the least of your problems.
I remember when a Russian (I believe) guy was telling me about how he was training his dick and lifting towels with it while it was erect. Too bad I didn't bother to save that conversation.
>>197074944Not impressive at all unless the towels were wet. lol
>>197060896arrête de faire l'andouille un pick-up blanc nous suit j'ai trouvé 20 euros au-dehors d'une laverie je ne pouvais pas rien voir avec tout ce brouillard autour de moi j'ai continué à frapper la porte mais personne n'a ouvert une couple de colombes inca ont fait leur nid dehors ma fenêtre
Which European language has the feel of pic rel?
https://streamable.com/tzukrsPolish input
>>197077987I hear Poland has nice walkable streets.
>>197077987my first reaction to that pic is Portuguese
English doesn't differentiate between a person who does something and a machine/tool that does it (the root of the "dishwasher" joke). Soulless. English doesn't differentiate between zmywacz and zmywarka. How can we speak English if we don't even have separate verb-doing categories for people and machines?
>>197065957>I guess I should watch more German documentaries related to nature & animals to pick up relevant vocab before I start Warrior Cats.Don't wait, friend. Just try reading, if you encounter words you don't know yet just reverso translate them into your NL. Eventually you'll be breezing through the series. You're on the right track.
>>197051087No
>>197069067>he said, in English
>>197078982my first reaction was greece for some reason
>>197080022>zmywarkathat could mean a washing lady, but no one would say it that waywe'd say>Pani na zmywakuor>Pani zmywająca
>>197080519A co z słowami ,,zmywacz" i ,,zmywaczka"?
Swiss-German obviously is the most important language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_tradeoff_hypothesis>The cognitive tradeoff hypothesis argues that in the cognitive evolution of humans, there was an evolutionary tradeoff between short-term working memory and complex language skills. Specifically, early hominids sacrificed the robust working memory seen in chimpanzees for more complex representations and hierarchical organization used in language.
>want to learn Hebrew>learn the letters>go do unit 1>no fucking audiocheap cunts refused to record any audio, every single course has audio but hebrew...
Not really a language learning thing, but hello talk has made me realize something I sort of already knew which is that I’m an extrovert, but have social anxiety. I’m literally addicted to talking to people, but I’m just way too shy to meet people irl. The few friends I have irl always say that they’re surprised at how much and how long I talk once I open up. Hopefully i can carry this over to real life.
>>197082882>Jew tries to learn another Jewish language and gets exposed to more Jewish nature
>¿ Es María un hombre?>Ay no, eso es ridículo, María no es un hombre, María es una mujer.What do you do when your textbook enforces outdated gender norms and devalues your experience as a trans woman?
>>197082882"languagejones" guy on YouTube streams himself learning Hebrew and I believe he uses the "Colloquial Hebrew" textbook and it has audio for all the lessons. You're probably just not looking hard enough.https://annas-archive.org/md5/4a10cf5d0e4680d4157af1b986935247
>>197060896hör damit auf dämlich zu sein ein weißer Lastwagen verfolgt uns. ich habe zwanzig Euro außerhalb des Waschsalons gefunden. Aufgrund des Nebels konnte ich gar nichts sehen. Ich habe weiterhin an die Tür geklopft, aber keiner hat geantwortet. Ein paar Eulen haben deren Nest außerhalb meines Fensters gemacht.
>>197083416>Es Maria un hombre?Throw out your textbook
>>1970652851417 days on memerise
>>197060896t. portunhol speaker, disculpa por adelante>deixa de brincar>um camión branco nos ta seguindo>encontrei vinte mil pesos chilenos na rua embora da lavaderia>näo consegui ver nem uma coisa com tuda a niebla no mi redor>continuei bater a porta mas ninguem me contestou>algumos cardeales fisseram seu nido emborra minha janela
>>197060896al fren lo que pida:>deja de hacer pendejadas>wey mira atrás hay un camioneta blanca siguiéndonos >encontré veinte dólares en la acera justo afuera de la lavandería >no pude ver nada con el chingón de niebla que me rodeaba .>seguía tocando la puerta pero nadie me contestó >un par de pájaros (no sé los nombres de las especies :/) hicieron su nido fuera de mi ventana
>>197083600Bet you’re still barely B1
>>197070748>German>non-ick language Alter, ich habe einst ein Mädel davon erzählt, dass ich Deutsch kann, und sie hat daraufhin buchstäblich eine Miene verzogen. Dagegen habe ich die entgegengesetzte Erfahrung mehrmals bei Mädchen gemacht, wenn es beim Gespräch zur Sprache gekommen ist, dass ich interessiere mich dafür, Französisch zu lernen. Das haben sie richtig toll gefunden. Meine eigene Mutter (die ich von ganzem Herzen liebe) hat mir vor kurzem gesagt, dass ich mich dem Lernen von Französisch zuwenden soll, nachdem ich ich Deutsch fertig gelernt habe (was immer auch das heißt).Also, Ich würde definitiv Deutsch einstufen als eine ickerregende Sprache (zumindest wenn es um Frauen angeht; Männer finden es in der Regel ziemlich cool meiner Erfahrung nach). >>197083958jede Wette, du bist für immer und ewig sowohl eine schwanzsüchtige Schwuchtel als auch, was noch schlimmer meiner Einschätzung nach ist, ein Kanadier, mit anderen Worten ein kulturloser und wurzelloser Möchtegern-Amerikaner, ein schäbiger Abklatsch, den man nur verachten kann als untermenschlich.
>>197083416Stop learning from textbooks.
>>197084365I know it's hard to understand, but it's possible to learn from textbooks AND immerse at the same time. You don't have to pick one or the other.
>>197084467Textbooks are transphobic THOUGH.
>>197084208>wenn es um Frauen angehtNa ja vielleicht muss ich dem von AIDS geplagten Kanadier ein bisschen Recht geben. Das soll lautet so: wenn es um Frauen geht. Ich habe mich auch anderswo vertippt und ein paar Sprachfehler begangen, was Gender angeht. Wie sich herausgestellt hat, bin ich schließlich nur ein bescheidener B1-Leibeigener. Es ist vorbei.
>>197083421This guy is an idiot
bonne nuit amis
>>197084545I was just trying to be helpful, sir.
>>197085501Sorry a video from this guy made me angry so I wanted to complain about him
>ménétrier >Violoniste de village qui escorte notamment les noces et fait danser les invités.
>>197060896Stop dom te zijn.Een witte vrachtauto volgt ons.Ik vond 20 euros buiten deze plek.Ik kan niks zien met al mist rondom.Ik bleef op de deur kloppen.Een paar van volgelsoorten dat (waar?) je van houd heeft hun volgelhuis buiten mijn raam gemarkeerd.
le bocage
>>197051087when did the wiki change sites?
>>197086649A while ago, the original got banned because of comments or some other shit.
>Getting sick of spanish, watching new content still and inputting but not at the levels I should because it's getting tedious at this point>Watch an unrelated youtube video about propaganda songs from different countries>Instinctively understand what many of the words mean from my many hours of input with uncertain wordsWtf, this is like a superpower or something, my comprehension of pretty much any language that is even close to spanish just shot up 9000% despite me not being fluent by any means yet, spanish-sisters, I think we're back.
If I learnt a foreign language what would I do with it?
>>197090158Unaweza kuandika ujumbe wake katika lugha unachojifunza na uwafanya watu kujiuliza unamaanishaje
>>197086309is this german ebonic?
>>197090369>ujumbe wakewakoits over
>Quelques-unes de ses camarades apportaient au couvent les keepsakes qu'elles avaient reçut en étrennesenglish borrowing in the 19th century french
>>197090829*in 19th>>197085415晚安
>>197080974yeah I guess zmywaczka sounds better than zmywarkabut zmywaczka could also be colloquially used for some cleaning tool and it sounds more like that rather than a person
>>197082155It's in a sense the most Hochdeutsch version of the language that exists because the 2nd German sound (hochdeutsche Lautverschiebung) shift started from Alemannic and it is the only dialect that completely implements the sound shiftAppel -> ApfelKatt(e) -> Katz(e)Acker -> Ackcher
>>197057878haven't touched Icelandic since highschool and even then, I didn't get too far into the languagecurrently on german and russian but I hate using anki so I just read. feel like im learning way slower than i should be with both of them
>>197090829I'm going to try reading Flaubert but I'm starting with Un cœur simple because madame bovary seems too long Btw I swear to God I've seen that before but frustratingly I can't remember which authors
JUST TO RECAP:>duolingo has klingon and high valyrian>but no persian>lingq has estonian and ukranian>but no persian>the translation function on kindle can do finnish and arabic>but not persian>google translate CAN do persian>but can't generate audio or even latin script transliteration for it>both google translate and the kindle translation can do arabic, and translate the loanwords to persian as arabic, but simply refuse to support the rest of persian.>there are some popular persian songs on youtube>but none with lyrics in persian script or with translation and there are no translations or transcribed lyrics anywhere onlineI WILL learn persian, and the big satan WILL like it.I WILL learn persian, and the zionist regime WILL like it.I WILL learn persian, and the helenes WILL like it.
learning a language for a woman is very cringebut learning a language so that you can repopulate an ethnic minority, now that is based
>>197093339what do that even mean?
>>197057249I would say they are more like math autists.
i've seen some people on the language learning youtube algorithm that make this general look like a pack of drooling retards. can anyone here actually language or what?some vids:https://youtu.be/K5XBzJy7vNk?si=tISn_uffuFjurlkGhttps://youtu.be/qImGJ3tcBBQ?si=9wKmatvoqxRUMf0yhttps://youtu.be/CggHugyhyJU?si=zh6b3uM1F2hxSRA1
>>197051087how the FUCK is english similar to persian or tamil
>>197090158Use it to woo the exchange student and convince her to have coitus with you before her Visa expires.
>>197095083>can anyone here actually languageNo, this place is for crying about how you want to learn languages, not for learning languagesNeither can those embarrassing children you posted, by the way.
>>197096249Kral
I read a post by someone talking about how he had studied Japanese for 4 years intensively and then lived in Japan and studied at the same time for 10 years moreHe said he had never read a single novel in Japanese
>>197096378novels are pretty much a shortcut for learning vocab thoughi was hitting the novels pretty much from week one
How do you say "it's over" in your TL?
>>197096496'her şey bitti' or just 'bitti'
>>197096430Yeah I agree with you
Thought of translating a song into French and holy shit it'd sound so awkward lol>J'suis une homme qui a une marie qui a une mère >Elle a épousé l'un mais elle aimais l'autre also I pronounce a une like "a-t-une" which I think is correct for the liaison (like a-t-il) but do people ever really write it like that?
I hate language youtubers
>>197086756CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC?
>>197096803the main rule for la liaison is that a silent consonant at the end of a word is pronounced when it is followed by a word that starts with a vowel. There's no "t" anywhere to be seen in "a une" so you shouldn't pronounce a /t/ liaison there like you should with, for example, "tout un". You still CAN apply a liaison in "a une" though, by merging /a/ and /u/ together so you don't have to pronounce both vowels separately. Don't think too much about la liaison, your ear will get used to it and acquire a natural instinct for it. After you listen to lots and lots of spoken French you'll automatically pronounce la liaison in your head and out loud because without it spoken French is jarring and difficult to pronounce.In the meantime you might want to consult this webpage when you have doubts: http://research.jyu.fi/phonfr/20a.html
>>197098156Someone thought it was a funny idea to put porn on there so it got shoad shame cuz there was a lot of useful free material on there
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I'm thinking of creating reddit accounts where I pretend to be a native speaker of my TLsCaptcha: mymy
>>197100642>Captcha: mymy
I finally made it to section 4! But 46 units? fuck that thats demoralizing especially knowing that they purposely made it long to keep people in their ecosystem.
During the last couple of weeks, I decided to rewatch some anime that I'm very familiar with with Jap voice and TL subs. This was to test how far my reading and comprehension skills have come. So far I have watched a bit over 30 episodes of One Piece and I noticed significant improvement in speed reading and "speed comprehension" (don't know if that's a thing, it's basically my ability to instantly comprehend long sentences that are more complex than what I'm used to). It was of course very difficult at first, an episode of about 20 minutes was taking me 40-60 minutes to finish because I was constantly pausing to make sense of what I was reading and to look up vocab. At some point, the time it took to finish an episode was shrinking noticeably, and I was concentrating on the story rather than TL subs. I still have a long, long way to go before I can read TL subs as smoothly as I do with English and NL but this wasn't a waste of time at all. When I went back to YouTube videos to practice native content with TL subs turned on I was having an easier time following both voices and their subs on the screen. I feel like this will especially benefit my listening practice in the long term since it no longer feels like a chore to read and listen and lookup all at the same time.For now, I'll pause One Piece (even though I am enjoying the experience with TL subs immensely) so I can focus on reading books and watching documentaries. I'll come back again and rewatch it or some other anime with TL dub instead.
>>197100642I post in my TL on reddit; pretty good output practice. No one has ever called me out for mistakes either. I imagine most people just assume I am either making typos or that I am a migrant.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBqkBBfmcfUHow do you say 'Big Booty Bitches' in your TL?
>>197104110>etli butlu bacılar>büyük popolu kızlar >kocaman götlü karılar idk something like this id imagine
>>197096430What novel can you read from week one?
Post screenshots of your anki collections uwuThinking about adding some prep cards for my industry in college coming up and some low number of english ones since I plan on reading more (used to have one with like 160 but boring dictionary entries with no emotional value desu). Probably just delete RTK again I dont even care for japanese.
I wish I could find a proper pinyin practicer
>>197105597I was exaggerating a bitBut I deffinetly started reading my first novel within the first month. It was painfully slow at first but my vocabulary skyrocketed and reading became exponentially easier within 6 months or so. My listening comprehension lagged behind massively as a consequence however :/
>>197096378Relatable. Japanese literature is shit, and why would you read Japanese translations when you already know English? The true pain of Japanese is that the peak of their creative output is unironically in their Anime and Manga.
>>197061595>Пepecтaнь быть глyпымGood, maybe "Хвaтит..." instead of "Пepecтaнь..." would sound a bit more natural for a Russian ear, but it's not a mistake.>Бeлый гpyзoвик cлeдyeт зa нaмиGood>Я нaшeл двaдцaть дoллapoв вoзлe cтиpaльнoй мaшиныLaundromat is "пpaчeчнaя", not "cтиpaльнaя мaшинa" (washing machine). "...вoзлe пpaчeчнoй".>Я ничeгo нe yвидeл cpeди этoгo тyмaнa, oкpyжaющий нac"...oкpyжaвшeгo нac". Or, slightly better: "Я ничeгo нe мoг yвидeть/paзглядeть вoкpyг из-зa тyмaнa">Heмнoгиe вopoны cдeлaли гнeздo зa нaшим oкнoм"Hecкoлькo вopoн" OR "пapa вopoн" (if it's exactly a pair of ravens/crows), not "нeмнoгиe вopoны" (some ravens/crows). And it would be more appropriate to use "cвили гнeздo" instead of "cдeлaли гнeздo", as that's the verb that is more commonly used in this context.
>>197105783Yes, I go through 135 new cards every single day. Been like this for a good month, though previously it was about 170, now it's reduced to 135 since I deleted the deck for common computer/internet related Chinese words, one for all Chinese counters, and some other stuff, since I had finished them all. Anki takes about an hour and a half of my day, on average.It's actually a lot easier than it looks, English helps a lot with French and Latin, those two help eachother, I already know Japanese so Chinese works out very well(though I have raised my new cards from 40 to 60, which is something that I swore just a week ago to never do since it would get me too cocky). German remains a massive mark of shame and I do not possess the courage to look it in the eye. I fucked up hard with it and it was all my fault, I did the one thing I should know to never do, which is to ignore native content and eat myself up with graded readers and Anki. Then I bounced off of it and now don't have the time to get back into it. Very childish.I do 日本語 and 重要古文単語 for fun, the former being composed of about 6200 kanji with all meanings and readings recorded. When learning the language I did not bother with the individual kanji and learned the words instead, now I'm going through them all because it's fun. Same for the other deck. Right now I'm learning Chinese, French and Latin, with a heavy focus on Chinese. I'm trying to interact with it often, playing Senren Banka, watching random shitty anime with CHT subtitles, lurking random otaku forums. As for French and Latin, I have to admit I do not deal with them much, which is mostly intentional. For French I watch a few episodes of anime every once in a while, but that's about it. I'll read Le Petit Prince soon. As for Latin, I already went through the first book of LLPSI a while back, I'll get off my ass soon™ and read either Bellum Gallicum, or the Vulgate if I get filtered by Caesar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBedISPe3S8
Anyone learned Chinese with actual succes?
Any good A0-A1 content to listen to for Spanish that I don't need video for or talking? Trying to listen at my labor job. I've started pimsleur but I'm not trying to talk out loud like a psychopath while I'm at my job
>>197108283Just listen to your Assimil audio on repeat. There's also Lengua Español: Comprensión if you get tired of that.
>>197108283Google "easy spanish podcast" or "slow spanish podcast". There's dozens of them.
Hacen los gringos en serio?
>>197107940There are some who post in Chinese
>>197108488source: my ass
Is English the only foreign language that one MUST learn to improve?Are there any hidden gems that unlock special skills if you learn them?
>10 hours a day -> 1 language>5-5 -> 2 languages>3-3-4 hours -> 3 languageswhat do?
>>1971088491 language
>>197108849what are the 3 languages? also 1 language
>>197108919French (b2), Spanish (a2), Chinese (start hsk1).
>>197109038Learn French and Chinese for 2 years (i.e., 5-5/2 languages), then do 3-3-4 after 2 years.
>>197108488Shower daily? As in every single day?
>>197108488Italians are not European
>>197106448This man wrote decent novels. He is the definition of 'based'—the epitome example of PRIME JAPANESE LITERATURE.>>197095083The first woman in the first video would be a native SK. But the people in the second video seem like just KSL (Korean Second Lang).
>>197109087您最开始是怎样学习汉语的?
>>197109087sadly I only have a lot of time for about 3 months.. I think I will just autistically study Chinese for ~12 hours a day for 3 months. Hopefully I can get to hsk3 (4?). Would that be possible?
>>197109308I mean, would be passed as a native. I can't notice any awkward expressions and pronunciations from her mouth.
>>197109362I don't know. I have ADHD. What about you?
>>197109377I can focus pretty all day so long I got my coffee. 12 hours a day, 3 months, only chinese input.
>>197051087What goes on in countries like Croatia, Slovenia, or Macedonia? I have a sneaking suspicion that they are hiding paradise from us. Should I start learning a slavic language to find out their secrets?
>>197109464go for it
>>197109357i only speak Arabic and English
>>197109478Slovenia people speak English pretty well. I would say the average Slovenian speaks better English compared to French women who have gone to univ to majoring English.Yeah natural of Slovenia is very beautiful.
Ne kadar az dil biliyorsan o kadar iyi
>>197109478Croatia is a corrupt hellhole that recently got flooded with pajeets.Macedonia is a corrupt hellhole and a meme state on top of that.Slovenia is literally just Austria but slavic.Croatian grammar is really accessible but you really shouldn't bother with the language unless you have a good reason to because there's only like 40 croats on the internet and they're all faggots.
>>197109867>Slovenia is very beautifulI knew they were hiding paradise from us. Lots of nature and not enough people to ruin it, at least not yet.>recently got flooded with pajeets.Damn I was hoping this wouldn't happen to these countries. There really is no escape is there?
>>197110044>Damn I was hoping this wouldn't happen to these countries. There really is no escape is there?Theyre literally everywhere lolTons of them in random places such as Greece and Armenia
>>197060896Deja de ser tonto.Una camonieta Blanca nos está persiguiendo.Encontré 20 dolares fuera de la lavandería.No pude ver nada con toda la neblina que había.Seguí tocando la puerta pero nadie me atendió.Un par de mirlos primavera hicieron su nido frente a mi ventana
Portuguese or Italian?Coomer me wants Portuguese, chill vibe me wants italian. I already know basic spanish. Will learn one of these next probably.Pros and cons of each lang?
>>197110926Both
>>197110926Italian
>>197110926it's very doubtful that you will get far in either of them
>>197110926Portuguese
>>197109038Balls deep into Chinknese or 5-5 French and Spanish.>>197109113Lol, wtf is that image? "synowie" means sons, right?
What are some good german books?No philosophy or war because I already know those and have tried to read strums or steel a hundred times. No Kafka either I have some on my computer.So more just light reading and fiction stories desu. Haven't read fiction in a decade and want to get into so I can chill by reading instead of all my reading being for learning>>197062067Guess I'll check this out never read Warrior Cats
>>197106448isn't this guy one of the most popular modern authors?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruki_Murakami
>>197111531>my sons are lifting my spirits up
>>197051087today I learned that in French, "faire chou blanc", which literally means, "to make white cabbage" is an idiom for "to fail" or "to come up empty" or "to hit a brick wall"What are some neat things you learned about your TL today, anons?
>>197111990I saved this reading list a while ago from another person cause it seemed handy.If you want something light and easy, try to translated fantasy/scifi. I've been into Brandon Sanderson's stuff lately, "Mistborn" series and "Elantris". German is a powerful lang so must popular books that have been out for a couple years at least will have a translation available.
>>197109308>>197112338Not a fan of either of them. Ironically, despite its long history, Japanese literature still feels like its in its infancy. It's like it's in its pre-Hawthorne/Melville/Whitman years where all Americans really had was Brown, Cooper, Irving, Paine, and Franklin. If I had to pick out some good authors, they'd be Natsume Sōseki, Eiji Yoshikawa, Tsushima Yūko, Miyazawa Kenji, Ōe Kenzaburō, Sawaki Kōtarō, Fujisawa Shūhei, Endō Shūsaku, Edogawa Ranpo, Ōoka Shōhei, Furui Yoshikichi, Ishihara Shintarō, Taneda Santōka, and Yumeno Kyūsaku. Problem is, none of these authors are actually good enough to justify learning Japanese (for its literature). There just comes a point where you get sick of reading flaccid Japanese attempts at aping American modernism and French decadence.
>>197083230I have news for you buddy... introversion/extroversion is pseudoscience
williwaw
How many words can you REALLY learn in a day?
top 5 ways to practice your tl that isn't talking to others>news>crosswords>creepy pastas in your tl>shitpost in an image board that is in your tl>read poetry
Do not reply to me if you have a Swedish flag.
>>197117844ok
Only reply to me if you have a Mexican or Serbian flag
Türk bayrağı olmayan kullancılar bana yazmasınlar
>>197113367peur bleue means really strong fear>>197117617one (1)>>197117973qui es tu ?
>>197109357>ninjordanon doesn't deserve honorifics
>>197118560Je suis le mec qui a parlé allemand à un caissier en France comme un bête
>>197060896Uache uwe mpumbavu.Truck ya rangi nyeupe inatufuata.Nilipata dola 20 nje ya soko.Siwezikuona kabisa ukunguni.Naendelea kupiga hodi lakini hakuna mtu aliyejibu.Kasuku kadhaa walijenga kiota chake nje ya dirisha langu.
>>197119204und was hat er dazu gesagt?
>>197119204pourquoi as-tu fait ça ? tu étais en alsace ?
>>197109308She isn't native. She studied Korean for 8 years and lived in Korea for the past 3 years.
Sirs is this real? >>197116423
>>197119664dunno but guarani has very little resources in english at least, probably more in spanish. >t. dubbled in guarani
>>197119315ich habe nur "ja" gesagt, also hat er nicht vielleicht etwas merkwürdig gedacht>>197119447J’étais en Allemagne aujourd'hui matin, mais maintenant je suis pas proche à la frontière.
>>197114375what about their pre-meiji era stuff?
Uh, is this a real thing?>https://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/finnishcyrillic.htm>https://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/germancyrillic.htmI couldn't find anything of this Chris WintherBut the alphabet tickles my autism
>>197119780!
>>197119315Für deine Frage zu beantworten, er hat einfach im Französischen geantwortet>>197120202Alors, qui es tu ?
>>197119843Can't say, honestly. Everything I've read from the Edo and Heian periods has either been translated into modern Japanese or has included a copious amount of notes. I can say I love Yosa Buson, at least. Miyamoto Mushashi is pretty cool.
>>197120306moi dans l'image
>>197119664>>197119723you can take guaraní classes for free in argentine universities good luck finding anything to do with the language if you're not planning to live in a guarango-majority area where you'll be speaking in the language every day of your life, because indios don't read nor write and the ones that do do so in the white man's language.
>>197120798Mais tu es très effrayant !J'ai sauvegardé l'image pour t'identifier dans le futur.
>>197121136>he white man's language.what language would that be
>>197121166>Mais tu es très effrayant !ça m'arrive parfois de l'être tu en es averti
>>197052596not at all, they're both Altaic and the point where "Mongolic" becomes "Turkic" is very blurry (some form of Uyghur although it's debated which)anyone who tells you that the Altaic family is "obsolete" or deboonked is a shill >>197054929move your tongue slightly back when pronouncing the curls/retroflexesfor j and q it's closer to a ts sound with some palatization, x is just palatized sif you're having trouble distinguishing aspirates just give it time and practice >>197056629no
>>197121265>mention how educated indios don't speak their language>an indio replies in european languagepoint proven
>>197101423Dude, if you’re this far in, you’re probably ready to start inputting. Reading would be way more efficient than Duolingo at this point.
>>197051087Does anyone get fatigued with learning a language and start resorting to translating in your head after a while? I'm getting close the German A1 level right now.
Why do people on Tandem nowadays instantly ask for whatsapp or line or whatever instead of just using the app for whats it meant to be with language learning?
>>197123864they're sluts
>>197124326Why would they use tgat app and not tinder or something, at least the guys try to help with language learning
>>197123864globohomo made everyone want to date outside of their country/ethnicity and they're using language learning apps as a sneaky tool to interact with their unsuspecting target group to fulfill some race fetish fantasy or for visa hunting purposes or whatever. They know they have a chance to benefit from you once they start asking for whatsapp and shit
>>197124326>>197124506based anons trying to protect another /lang/anons virginity
>>197124445they're not hot enough for tinder
>>197124445>using tinderbad idea all around
>>197124506Should i not give them my details then? Recent girl just send her phone number in second message because she said she is always busy so respond faster on whatsapp, but i dont really like people responding instantly because then really fast run out of stuff to talk.>>197124613>women>not hot enough for tinder
>>197124756in that case use your own judgment. Do you actually want to further talk to this person or not? I personally wouldn't bother taking a conversation outside of a language learning app unless I see a potential of a nice online friendship
I grabbed that big Spanish pack from /t/ and I'm sure it has everything I could ever want but I doubt I need a dozen A1 textbooks. Has anyone worked with it and formed any opinions/recommendations from it?
>Redditors making fun of duolingoers on the Mexican subredditAnd all was right with the world
>>197065500https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ePVAoS89C4şarkı derlemeleri dinliyorum genelde ve şuan bu şarkıdayım
>la agenda de automóviles>the automobile agency
Is it good immersion for my girlfriend to speak her native language (my target language) and nothing else for a whole day, even if I don't understand most of it?
>>197126903Only when she's sitting on your face
>>197065938German vtubers?
coquelicot i like this name
>>197126903Yes, but not for the reason you think. Here's what's up:It shows her that you're interested in her and you're putting in the effort. A lot of effort, even. More importantly, since you both know you won't understand most of it and the struggle is part of the point, it means you don't actually have to listen to her half the time and she can't fault you for it because you're trying so hard for her.
>quand tu lis et quelque connard que tu détestes t'envoie un message whatsapp auquel tu doit répondre ruinant ton ambient *lève les yeux au ciel*
>>197128593*ambiance
Is there a spanish accent that immediately marks someone as being a snobby wine-taster?
Wonder if learning Spanish conjugation will help with learning French conjugation.
>>197128728qué significa eso
>>197128792Significa que quiero a aprender el acento más snob. Acabo de googlearlo y al parecer el que de Bogotá se ve como un acento de prestigio. (me disculpe por mi español pobre)
i use this command to download audio from youtube with the auto generated subs:yt-dlp --write-auto-subs --sub-langs de -x https://youtu.be/6liLPy-iwf8now I can easily generate text files to use in FLTR.FLTR can generate anki deck for mei have unlock new power
>>197121136What percentage of Argentinians speak English somewhat well or fluently would you say?
>>197128743ouais
what ultra nationalist movement has your TL learning journey led you to?
>>197131046bukele although that’s not extreme just common sense and based
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if you have to bump a thread then maybe it deserves to die ...
>>197135822It's the only interesting part of this cursed website
>>197127212https://www.youtube.com/@JinjaOwO>>197126903It's only good if she talks to you on your level. If you're clueless then that means a bit more effort on her part to use simple words and constructions, slow down her speech and use visual context when needed. For language learning it works pretty well, but sooner or later she'll get tired of playing teacher.
>>197131046Zafer en ekstrem olan mı bilmiyorum ama direkt o aklıma geldi
this phiscally hurts... ughhhh it was going so well akkkkkhhhhhh... you fuck up one day and it just gets worse and woesr... cest fini
The "Natural Method" is a total scam. I've been studying Latin with Lingua Latina per se Illustrata and Duo Lingo and the only grammar I know is when I go to my friend who studied Latin properly and he explains the different inflections these resources completely don't tell you about.
>>197121753>they're both Altaic and the point where "Mongolic" becomes "Turkic" is very blurry (some form of Uyghur although it's debated which)This is pseudoscience. There cannot be any blurriness between different branches with more than ~2000 years divergence time, as languages become far different enough for dialect continuum to be possible. Altaic is "debunked" only in heads of wikipedia warriors and american linguists stuck with heads in their splitter asses, yes, but that has nothing to do with bullshit you're spewing
>>197141274Oh, so you haven't been doing all the LLPSI supplements and exercises? There's a reason they're there, after all...
>>197142243What supplement is being shown here?
>>197142824Latine Disco. Just to make sure we're on the same page, here's what I've been using:LLPSIExercitia LatinaGrammatica LatinaLatin-English VocabularyFabellae LatinaeTeacher's Materials & Answer KeyFabellae Syrae (Luigi Miraglia)
>>197100642
Je cherche les films et séries pour un étudiant B1. Je regarde C'est pas sorcier sur youtube et ça me plaît mais la plupart des autres que j'ai trouvés sont trop durs.
>>197135822Don't we all
>>197140913I'm still waking up and thought those were Github commits at first. Thought to myself, shit, I've gone longer. Getting back in the habit with study though, that's tough. Here's hoping you didn't backslide too much.
>>197140913Heh...
>>197146004what language?
>>197148080Mainly Japanese, but German and recently Spanish as well.
I've been learning Japanese for a couple of months and I want to move to Japan in the future, but I'd also like to learn Korean.Should I start Korean now and learn them side by side, or will that significantly hamper my Japanese ability? I don't want to wait 5 years until I'm good at Japanese before I start Korean, but at the same time since Japanese is more important I don't want it to suffer from trying to learn both at once.Should I wait until my Japanese is N3~ish before picking up Korean?
>>197149775That's gonna take like 10 years
>>197149775Wait until you're N1
>>197149775There's some overlap but Japanese is a fucking slog that never truly plateaus. Commit to one or accept that you're going to be pretty bad (but understandable) at both. Japanese and another language or two might be okay but I wouldn't recommend it unless the other language is both on the easy end of the scale and different enough from Japanese that you aren't going to get things confused
>>197149775focus on your goal. if you aren't full of shit and this isn't just a phase, then your goal appears to be to live in japan. as you might have figured, not speaking japanese while living in japan is doom beyond imagination and you will either kill yourself or move back to the european island. you've set a goal for yourself, now put a pin in it and take it seriously, no fooling around, no tricking yourself into believing you can learn two languages not in the slightest related to any language you speak (seeing as how they both are pretty much isolates — altaic fags need not reply), just because "one uses a nifty, easy to learn script". no, you cannot. you are not that guy. not a problem, the fewest are that guy. you are most certainly not. focus on japanese, this will keep you occupied for months and years to come. don't arrest your progress before it even became such. not trying to be mean (maybe it sounds like it, sry, bad social skills + german), but don't fuck yourself over. korean is cool and so is japanese, but if you're at least half serious about it, you will need to stick to one. not even "a bit of italian on the side", you hear me? and tips their hat
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