Brazil editionPrev >>198968177
Anime!
>1993
Got 95% on a logic exam today
How do I kill myself without making my family sad.
goodnight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNr7nXvntO8
A friend of mine was getting into either swinging or cucking last year and offered up his Brazilian slampig gf to me. I turned him down because I thought it'd be weird. Wish I'd just clapped her cheeks now desu.
think about how cool america would be if it was just northern appalachia (pennsylvania, but minus all the slavs and wops) and the south. no disgusting midwest. no disgusting new york. no disgusting new england. Literal cultural kino.
>>198973749Tough it out until you die of natural causes like everyone else
>>198973749get hit by a bus
>>198973749Make your family hate you.
>>198973755don't let the crocodiles bite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKNX9c1CIworecommended
Damn Canada's gonna lose again at that hockey thingIsn't that their most popular sport?Haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHGqpqSvoYgwhat you goys listening to?
>>198973656this nigga out here overcooking chimkin>>198973749delete all your weird apps and photos and porn from your devices clean your room wash your clothes pull out all your money and hand it over to your mom or something shower and shave but don't kill yourself though that would be demonic
THE SUN WILL COME OUTTOMORROWBET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLARTHATTOMORROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>198973772>that would be demonic
>>198973770https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBSQug_xtwc
I like anime just because there's a boatload of it and its rarely pozzed It's pure entertainment.
>>198973792>uncut hairy fat euro cocks my weakness
>>198973799
>>198973792i there's a penis in that webm
im back
>>198973770https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Aeny3cKJPQ
anime is pretty fucking cringe, i only read manga and only good manga btw, i just got done catching up with kingdom
>>198973824Have yourself a glass of milk (and don't mind the anime figure at the bottom)
>>198973792LMAO
>>198973824You bring us anything?
>>198973845no. sorry.>>198973839too early for milk.
i don't like any other """americans""" outside of kentuckians, west virginians, southwest virginians and southeast ohioans.
>>198973836>only good manga btwYeah that's kind of important honestly. Mindlessly consuming a bunch of slop legit makes you stupider. I favor anime though because it brings the story to life.
>>198973816I like this show even if it's the definition of tranime. I don't care, it's still cozy.
>>198973860it's okay anon because i still like you anyways :3*kisses forehead*
>Roe v Wade was struck down by SCOTUS 2 years ago on this day.That was two fucking years ago already? Where is the time going
>>198973891omg kissies MWAH
Don't you EVER post a fat juicy succulent cock in /cum/ again you mother fuckhair!GET EM JANNY
I had tacos and taquitos for dinnerdesukara, mexico-san,HONTO-NI ARIGATOU GOZAIMASU!!!
why does my 3/4th finished bottle of unsalted peanuts smell like an unwashed cock after gooning
>>198973907I'll post one between your flapping lips instead
>>198973891aw shucks, i take it back i like you too anon :)
>>198973860lower your tone, cletus
don't you hate it when your dickhead pokes out of your foreskin for no reason
>>198973917someone gooned in your peanuts
>Brazilian applying for an international job in middle east>puts on fake filterfucking kek, im so glad we're in the superior American continent.
>>198973922we are the heart and soul of america, pedro. you cant change that.
>>198973949seems like a jeet move
NEW HAMPSHIRE is the heart and soul of America
I can feel my region of the us becoming more and more latinized
>>198973967meth addicts and coal miners stuck in the 20th century*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yumQ1osJHjEI mean, these guys were from Jersey...yeah!
>>198973944I HIGHLY DOUBT that! The only one would can would be father, and I HIGHLY DOUBT he would!
>>198973984grim. White people are flooding into my region...for some reason nobody knows why such a mystery
>>198973989If you can maintain a latent shithole status, you can avoid getting wiped out by greedy immigrants. Where are the WASP Boston Brahmins now? Everyone thinks Boston is Irish
Gotta go to the clinic tomorrow and get myself tested
All of my children will be half-native or half-mexicanI'm honestly tired of white americans, though I am one. The future is looking bright
for the gay aids?>>198974012
>>198974001>Where are the WASP Boston Brahmins now? You don't want to meet those people. Just read John Cheever instead.
>bank changed my financial advisor from a jeet to a nigerianI’m so tired
People wonder why the homeless problem is so bad here in Oregon when it takes three people just to afford rent. Seriously, just give incentives for contractors to build more apartments.
>>198974024Yes
>>198974012you're gay and you got aids, it is what it is many such cases
I'm pregnant
>>198974017um sweetie, libtards like you aren't supposed to have kids don't you know
>>198974017Your children will be brown white nationalists
>>198974038i'm pregnant with a big fat brown turd
>>198974043I'm not a libtard. I like white europeans, just not white americans>>198974052I will beat that shit out of them
>>198974057Is your poo baby fertilized
>>198974057Thats what your mama said when she was pregnant with you
>>198974052yeah I feel bad for mixed kids they always have way more issues than kids of one race + they're almost always way uglier
>>198974038um, sweetie, but that's totes fabulous tho?!?!?!
>tfw no masc uncut euro cock to frot with I suffer in the states
>>198973999Do you live in south carolina or florida
Private equity firms should be illegal.
>>198974078no. but smart white people are putting down roots in the whitest areas of the country just in case.
>>198974075spinny…
Life would be better if everyone was content with 'having enough'.
>>198973989invented all american culture, opened up the american west to eastern settlement, vanguard of the continental army and main group responsible for american independence*>>198974001this is also true, appalachia got very few immigrants so we're one of the only authentic american cultures out there. most of the rest of the country is just goyslop and amerishart 52% faces
>>198974099I've 'had enough' of your stupid shit
>>198974093more like brian the faggot
>>198974099No it wouldn’t. Places where people have that complacent attitude, such as parts of Africa, are the closest thing to hell on earth
>>198974108I'm filled with shit. In fact, I must shit right now!
>>198974101the east is just like the people who stayed in britainthey lack the pioneering spirit
faggots be like: "i got aids nigga" *dies of aids*
>>198974099Those ain't the words of no American I know, son. Sho me your firearms license right now!
>>198974065they'll beat the shit out of you instead, libtard
>>198974108got his ass
Canadians be like: "i got aids nigga" *dies of aids*
>>198974132>they'll beat the shit out of you instead, libtardWrong. I can beat almost any child in a fist fight
>>198974139
>>198974151safe and effective
>>198974032>Seriously, just give incentives for contractors to build more apartments.The problem is almost never a lack of contractors. It's nearly always local government regulations + NIMBY organizations. Very very rarely there's a lack of land, but normally that's easily overcame if you can build up.
>>198974126the east is americathe west is a colonial project gone wrong
>>198974151
>>198974172>the west is a colonial project gone wrongsounds like something a brit would say
>>198974183you will never know the sweet joy of standing on land that your family has owned since 1692
>>198974183i mean all their colonial projects went wrong, thats their world view
>>198974222that's how they've been brainwashed. Colonialism was in reality a huge success
>>198974216>You may say heya haha, chief...but where I'm concerned you're treading on American soil...and it's heya bang bang! *discharges blunderbuss*
>>198974216I just know the joy of standing on acres upon acres of my own fertile land with no one else in sight. East coasters live packed together like bugs
he knew it was bad for the long term health of the country to have them inside the country in any capacity that's why he wanted to free them from the greedy farmers that wouldn't want to send them back, but of course he got killed before he could send them back
>>198974172America proper is inside the proclamation line. Everything beyond it is colonial empire. The Appalachians are the dividing line, like the Urals in Russia
get the FUCK off my land, tonto
>>198974292Wrong, America proper is the 13 Colonies + the land they were colonizing from the 1750s onwards so Kentucky + Tennessee + Eastern Ohio. Anything south or west of that, though, is not America.
>>198974032Real people can't afford mortgages because corporations are buying up single family houses and foreigners are paying full cash, not questions asked over the listing price. Not to mention that sites like Zillow and Redfin are pulling home values out of their asses because their main customers are actually real estate firms and not just the small guy looking to buy (they used to buy up houses too which is another reason why house prices were inflated but then got out of that biz when the interest rates went up). Another company out in Texas called RealPage is getting sued because property management companies used their software to collude and inflate rental prices.
>manifest destiny doesnt count!!!cope, cletus
>>198974296I’d like to acknowledge that Indians are occupying the unceded traditional territory of the Solutrean peoples
Thinking one of my work gigs might be a risk. The guy in charge of it has given off a few red flags. A couple departures in the last month or so, little transparency, taking my presence for granted even though I'm independent, etc.
>>198974292(Yes this means the Maritimes are unpressed American core territory)
>>198974306Why are corps buying single family homes?
it could have been another west virginia, if we'd only stopped the slavs and italians and new yorkers from immigrating.
I feel bad for all the east coasters whose ancestors were too chickenshit to lay claim to the open continent
>>198974336how come they didn't claim nova scotia as part of maine? there must have been frogs there or something?
sending out applications is akin to whoring yourself out like a filthy little slut
>>198974313Manifest Destiny doesn't count and I can say that as a Cletus because we're the ones who Manifested the Destiny. You're the descendants of European effetes who immigrated after we killed all the injuns for you.
oilers are losing, good.
>>198974296you know how trump is talking about sending the illegals back?well I think it's high time we sent the original illegal aliens back. WE HAVE TO SHIP THE INDIANS BACK TO ASIA
i've noticed that everyone is beautiful except me and i'm the only ugly freak on this earth
I know what you're thinking. Did he fire one shot or none? Well to tell you the truth in all this disbelief I lost the guidance of mine own presbytery. But this being a smooth-bore .45 cal pistol, thee most decisive weapon of God against all thee infidel and would make thine head such as Edom among the Israelites, I query thee: feelest thou benevolent under God, now thoust thou...chief?
>>198974090Northern New England? The only white people I see move here are massholes who want cheaper homes because they can now work from home
>>198974415I've also noticed that. You're kinda freaking everyone out
i'm also ugly personally
>>198974362The colony of Nova Scotia (which at one time encompassed all of the modern Maritime provinces and some of Maine) was in some sense an informal colony of Massachusetts, with a lot of Mass personalities involved in settling it after the takeover of the territory from the Acadians. By the time of the American Revolution, the people of Nova Scotia tried to join the more southerly Patriots in rebellion, but their revolt was crushed. The British already had a lot of troops in Nova Scotia, plus the population was quite a lot smaller, probably due to the cold deterring settlers.
“just suck the lady’s cock, ya fuckin rube”
>Brazil posts a guy jacking off>not deleted almost an hour laterReally makes you think...
baby is about to be born on the porcelain throne
>>198974296>>198974319the Trust the Science™ & Injun lover crowd really hates this btw. They call research racist lol
just replied to the previous thread, thinking it was the current thread. didn't realize until afterwards.
haha DUMMYleast u got TRIPS though CHECKED
>>198974555were you always such a brain dead retard?
>>198974347To turn them in to forever rental units.
>>198974571unironically yes because i was born with a learning disability
>>198974540oh yes. were in one of the bleakest periods for science and history that we've seen in many many years.
>>198974555chek'd
I couldn't tell you where Edmonton is on a map.
>>198974582ah I was just joking. I wasn't actually trying to put you down. It's an easy mistake to make
cum con sex
>>198974603>American's can't into geography hahaha - ohrealistically most Canadians couldn't either
no no no not again leafbros!
>>198973749Don’t kill yourself. >>198973762That will sadden them more.
SO IT HAPPENED AGAIN
Do Canadians really say 'Furda! Lez go boys! Lez have a donnybrook!'?
>>198974628>>198974632/cum/ leafs are too autistic and/or brown too understand this tbqh
I know that of Alberta’s two major cities, Edmonton is the more northerly one, and the capital (the other being Calgary). Not sure I could actually pinpoint where it is if presented a map of Alberta, though. I’m too reliant on shorelines to be able to specify where something is in the middle of a prairie
congrats to the 7 amercians playing for florida
>>198974664The eternal cope
>>198974662Cities like Anchorage, Edmonton, Helsinki, Stockholm, St. Petersburg all fascinate me because they are so far north
next year my wingies will win
More like the dead wings
istanbul and chicago are at nearly the same latitude
I feel like I have more in common with Florida than Alberta
>>198974701you sound like a britme fookin wingies innitdown at the horse racesfookin bet it all wing it all the missus can get bent innitit's me wingies what's it about, yeh?
>>198974715
Just finished watching Severance.What did I think of it?
Some people are much more attractive in person than in pictures
you've never heard of it
>>198974728>t. Snowbird
the missus is a right bender innit
>>198974734that the main guy had a face that could cut glass
>90% of canadians live within 100 miles of the us borderwe should just annex the fuckers already
>be on vacation in bongland>see Arya Stark gliding down the sidewalk>like a graceful penguin with gout>follow her for a block>working up courage>gently touch her shoulder“H-hello, I’m Anon. Y-you’re the prettiest girl I’ve seen all day! W-would you join me for dinner?”>she spins around nearly smashing me in the balls with an Abercrombie bag>stares intently for a few moments>then breaks into a grin that looks like she could eat an apple through a chain link fence“YEH ORLRITE! FAK IT, WHY NOT? I CUD DO WIV SOME FREE GRUB ANNA LITTLE OF THE OL IN OUT!”>quickly grab her hand and go into the first restaurant I see that has tablecloths“FAKKIN ELL! POSH ERE INNIT? GLAD I PUT SUM KNICKERS ON!>she lets out a little giggle that sounds like a horse with it’s leg caught in a wood chipper>head waiter gives me the stinkeye but leads us to a table>Arya cocks her head and squints at the menu“ERE NOW, WATS THIS SHITE? IT’S ORL IN FAKKIN FRENCH! OI CARNT READ THIS, I’LL END UP GETTIN A PLATE OF FAKKIN SNAILS WUNNOI?!?”>look at the menu. It’s in English, just a fancy script>she shoves her menu at the waiter“I WONT PIE AND MASH DUNNOI. PLENTY OF LIKKER ON THA MASH, GUV!”“I’m sorry, madam, we don-““I SED FAKKIN PIE AND MASH M8! AND A PINTA LARGER FOR ME EDACHE!”>he slinks away without even taking my order>Arya pulls a pack of Mayfairs from her cleavage and sparks up, ashing in the bread basket>starts rubbing at her crotch>brings her fingers up and licks them then cackles“JOLLY FAKKIN ELL, IT’S ME TIME! OI LUV GITTIN SHAGGED ONNA RAG! GUNNA AVE US A RED WEDDIN INNA LOO, AIN’T WE?”>look over my shoulder and franticly signal the waiter for the check>turn around>Arya is slumped over the table>raped to death by Pakismfw
>>198974739>Some people are much more attractive in person than in picturesIndeed, same with video.
>>198974695sauce for left
>/brit/ posting in /cum/This is a Federal crime
my body is a machine that turns calories into turds
>>198974778ah'll fooking ave ya, ye bleedin colonial, yeh?
>>198974772>does not post the picdumbass
Imagine eating this good
>>198974807grim
>>198974776no clue. got it ona goon thread on /v/
Wait wait wait, hold on.> Vancouver Canucks> Edmonton Oilers> Calgary Flames> Winnipeg Jets> Toronto Maple Leafs> Ottawa Senators> Montreal CanadiensYou're telling me not a single one of these teams has won the Stanley Cup since 1993 when it's the national sport of Canada?
>WoW you really are a trans girl!
>>198974807I'm telling you, start an IG account and it would be popular
>>198974807>low level wow chars>pop bottles everywhere>dirty deskthis pic is making me very nostalgic of my middle school days
>>198974776it's fan art of the princess from the slay the princess game
>>198974827Please understand...
>>198974827to be fair, it was in
>>198974807Your food reminds of those images meant to simulate having a stroke; where you can’t identify anything. I always fail to discern it on first glance, and need to take a moment to figure out what I’m looking at.
If I keep up the 1800 calorie diet and exercise maybe I'll be fit in a month or two
>>198974833except hes not hes an incel approaching 30
there's nary a cunt in Brummie oo wouldn ave yaso camon den...ya fackin seppo cunts!
>>198974851aren't we all
>>198974807i can see her pantsu wtf
>>198974860No we aren't, im volcel.
>>198974851
Gonna watch anime
>>198974829IG is for urkelkin and boomers. I'd have to use my phone number for it as well.>>198974833It's not dirty, the paint is discolored. I'm gonna get a floor desk one of these days but it's hard to justify to myself when this desk works fine.
volcel is a huge cope for ugly incels
>>198974849That is an ancient image which I still cannot discern.
>>198974807erm what’s that first character name
>>198974828hey I played wow and I'm not a transgirl
>>198974869volcel is just incel copium
>>198974877thats the point anon
>>198974873>>198974885incorrect, often I find my self turning down girls handing their pussys to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKEUr88T-UFine, fine sparrow!Fine, fine horseman!
>>198974902X2doubt
>>198974849
>>198974902and then you woke up
If you are a first worlder who has a job and is mentally capable of flying to Thailand you are a volcel
>>198974924she cute
jason do you have any guns
>>198974939big fan of birbs, total outdoor cat death
>>198974925what if I dont have a job?
>>198974939burb
>>198974945gonna go let my cat outside just to piss you off
Dr. Pepper is popular again?
>>198974859quality post
>>198974947do you have enough money and the mental capacity to travel to Thailand or somewhere similar? If yes, you are a volcel
think I'll pass on the thailand ladyboys tyvm
>>198974965>do you have enough moneyim a poorfag
Yeah, I'm a gun owner. I have three firearms.
>>198974925i'm a third worlder who does not have a job or the mental capability of flying to thailand therefore i am a truecel
>>198974957praying to the car gods rn
hello sir i am stink india.
I'm gonna fry my brain with drugs and change my entire personality so I can make eye contact with people and get a job
i cant find my crack pipe :(((((( I WANNA SMOKE SO BADDDDDDD WAAAHHHHH
>>198974977incel, not volcel>>198974983you are unironically correct. idk how much bunda costs in huehueland but ill assume you are also a poorfag
>>198974998violent black nigger motherfuckers love animal abuse
>>198974998
What do you do in this situation?
>>198974998don't worry I live in a secluded roundabout there's zero chance of that happening, faggit>>198975011tru
>>198975018that would never arise cause i dont leave my house
he thinks using drugs will make him into a charismatic chad and not a withdrawn schizophrenic
>>198975002Determined. Has a clear objective. Has a plan. Prioritizes. This anon will go far.
>>198975005urkel…
>>198975002I did that. I can make eye contact now, but the prospect of working is impossible. I'd rather die than work for some managerial type.
>>198975018sex?
>>198975018make her my wife also >>198975028
>>198975018Pull and hold the woman tightly, then punch her head until she falls unconscious.
zesty ahh wiggahttps://youtu.be/WPurOW6tWXw
Was thinking of visiting minneapolis tomorrow morning but quite frankly it sounds like a shithole so why should I?
>>198975028based
Can't sleep
>>198975065maybe you really like rowdy blah pipos?
>>198975062lmao
>>198975011pic very related
>>198975086wtf fuck you
>>198975018another guy has to stick a finger up her ass, like when a shitbull won't stop killing another dog
>>198975063RAPPERS MUST WEAR THE DRESS
>>198975086Cruelty towards animals is a sign of a murderer.
>>198975018lick her feet clean probably(?)
for me its pb
>>198975094Some black people seem to strongly hate cats idk why. You'd think they would hate dogs more...
>>198975018>biting lipGive her a big smooch :)
Watching an anime about high school delinquents
>>198975086black "people"
Knew instantly to not click that webm from the thumbnail
Oh, Mr. Blue, I've been study'n the radar in the skyMeasurin' earth and time, the rainbows on your pillows are newNow I'm fuckin' mad scientist too,Baby, baby let the one who loves you come thruBaby come thruBaby come thruhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUuppC6nR0I
>>198975103>picinteresting
>>198975109>You'd think they would hate dogs more...dogs don't care for them much
>>198975104uhhh you clearly aint a real hood rican from the barrio primo
Not allowed to have a pet ferret here :/
>>198975133>third world>dog was almost certainly killed or beaten severely after thisgrim
>>198975112https://youtu.be/QHmE0C2kZlc?si=WhdbCaGOl80fRjI_
Here's some eyebleach
>>198975151almost assuredly beaten before it, too
>>198975146too stimky
wtf is going on in Ottawa lmfao
Cats are a problem because they wreak havoc on local ecosystems. They're unwelcome, murderous invaders, if you will. Much like Saracens or Nubians.
>>198975184cope + seethe + kys
>>198975158i will find you
O Canada…
>>198975184the nubians actually held a pact with the saracens for centuries but ultimately it was broken and resulted in the arabization of the Sudan...OH, ELDEN RING!
>>198975182nice comment section
>>198975086death to all demonic black niggers GEORGE FENTANYL STYLE
>>198975079Yeah pass. I've spent way too much time in rural paradise here that I'm allergic to US cities now. I saw my first black person today and they look like immediate trouble.
city slickers move to the suburbs and call it a rural paradise
i hope heki makes a major come back and becomes a badass after the recent happenings
>>198975216Why can't thirdies and blacks swim? like I truly don't understand it. Even babies can do it by autonomic reflex
>>198975226oh are you that guy from Eireland on his roadtrip? I've never been to minneapolis but I'm not a huge city person either. There's probably some cool shit in the northern parts of minnesota and wisconsin tho
>>198975252Blacks have a totally different body structure in terms of bone density and stuff, which makes it way harder to swim. Literally a different species.
>>198975182>letting a militant minority group totally control the government because they are strategically distributed for elections and fast growing populationClassic Western Democracy moment
>>198975252
what percentage of Mexicans in your town look like this?
Selena Gomez's boobs
>>198975297in your face
>>198975260Yes that is me. I'm in waconia right now. Guess I'll just hit the bluffs in MN tomorrow.
>>1989752850%. They're all brown dysgenic goblin spawn. Their language is a bastardization. They do not have a solid grasp of English or Spanish. They are a post-human race. An utter abomination.
>>198975285There was one Mexican family who attended my school when I was growing up. At some point, they decided to leave down, and they opted to burn their house down for insurance money as they were leaving.
>>198975252They're just not human.
should i walk to the store to get sugar water in the rain and thunder or nah
>>198975319*leave town
>>198975334do it now or regret it forever
Last for sex
>>198973749Don't kill yourself, kill your former life and seperate all connections.Start a new life in somewhere if you're just gonna waste this current one anyway.Leave Brazilian maan
>>198975315 salvadoreño?
>>198975322
>>198975334someone call the MIB immediately
>>198975195Huh?
>>198975322Apparently there are ethics panels that review scientific studies for ethical concerns and prevent publishing of such articles in mainstream journals.
>>198975334Sounds like a fun little adventure
>>198975322>They're just not human.That is not what is implied by Sepehr here.
what was it that made u realize u were a bisexual nigga?
>>198975345Negative
>>1989752850%
Why does the southern population hate Mexicans when a lot of the cowboy redneck culture is appropriated from mehicothey're America's real deep south
>>198975285All the Mexicans I've seen have been 4 foot tall brown manlets that make me feel like a giant
new>>198975383>>198975383>>198975383
errybody told me ya cain't get farwith $37 and a jap geetar!
>>198975360>science is fakeI'm shocked. Next you're gonna tell me IQ tests on niggers are banned in Calistania..
>>198975275Whites are a bit more buoyant but it's not like swimming is that much harder for black people
>>198975387Hang yourself Pablo
>>198975334if there's no traffic in your area or a lot of people out, go for it, get soaked by the rain it'll be a relaxing walk
>>198975285I know some
>>198975370Cropped tranny porn, I can even recall waht it was because it is a recent development. It was the one where they were dressed up as an elf and often posted with some sort of irrelevant time wasting question about elves.
>>198975439link it
>>198974540Tbf it's based on some pretty shaky evidence (tools that look similar) and offers no explanation as to how a European migration would have happened. It doesn't have to, but the absence of evidence for the maritime traditions it would have required is notable
>>198975904I don't disagree, the only compelling evidence is some genetic residue on the east coast indigenous populations that doesn't follow the rest of the continent. But this could also be explained by founder effect, some later migration like norse, or just some error in DNA collection in these very small groups. The point I was making was how defensive they are about just asking the question or researching it because it might make the indigenous look a little politically incorrect or something. Isn't that the whole point of Science, to ask questions?
>>198976075>Isn't that the whole point of Science, to ask questions?People took the article out of context and started to try to push a "they were there first" narrative.
>>198976148People take virtually every science paper out of context, especially when the media reports on it incorrectly as they often do. The Solutreans wouldn't even have much in common with most modern Europeans anyways. In the case of the Inuit they literally were NOT there first but nobody seems to mind this
