Beware of white dormancy
>>218704846he's right thoughbeit
>we’re a very martial peoplelol kek lmao
>>218704846Does the concept of whiteness even go far back enough for this to have happened "multiple times across history"
>>218705057
>Romans>whiteJulius Caesar was BLACK
Made me kek. I wished that was true though.
>>218705057Your ancestors were colonized, conquered, or enslaved by whites.You can say many things about whites, but to say they aren't militaristic as fuck is just retarded.
>>218704846I don't understand? I thought tattoos and such were "thug nigger culture"? Why does he have them if he's so above it?
>>218704846>we might snap out!>pics of europoors fighting among themselves for thousands of yearsdon't get what the point here was
>>218704846will never happen again our societies are too brown a d docile
>>218704846It's not that, Celine explained it, whites are good at war precisely because they don't get angry or worked up. It's the only people you can get to sit in a trench getting shelled 24/7 for 5 years straight and they'll just do it without question. Whenever that was tried with non-whites they'd mutiny, desert, sometimes kill themselves, hence their use as shock troops after a while. Same for line battles or what have you.Traits such as obedience or compliance to orders are massive flaws in civil life but great qualities in a war.Even today, just compare the war in Ukraine with over a million dead in trench warfare getting droned willingly to whatever bullshit guerilla warfare they have in Syria or Cambodia. Like occasional dozen military deads in skirmishes where they just run away from each other constantly and more civilians die than anything, or even in Israel for that matter, if they were able to just sit there in the trench and accept death like us they'd win those wars easily.
>>218705083no"white people" is a social construct made up by uprooted mutts
>>218706180Trench warfare began in the 20th century, and it directly correlated with the decline of European hegemonyColonization wasn't trench warfare. Also Slavs are not patient nor calm people
>>218706213Previously line warfare was the same bullshit "get in line and walk to guaranteed death" and you couldn't get non whites to do that either.
>>218706213Also it wasn't really these autistic idiots from northern Europe doing the whole conqueringIt was mostly Spaniards and in antiquity Italians and Greeks.Both very hot tempered people If anything the worst at war in Europe are the most obedient types like Scandinavians and such that never really had great empires or anything of note.>>218706188The concept of whiteness was invented by the Spaniards and then anglos and other Germanics began sticking themselves onto it to try and scrap some authority over Rome and med culture to compensateThe anglo fixation with classical Greece is related to this notion they were white like them. In reality is more of a Germanic cope than anythingBecause your people is fundamentally kinda lame
>>218705088>>218705972your strong men were genocided in the world warsall that's left now are sissy clitties, sissy hypno and nullo penectomy
>>218706180what tf is that nonsense?Counterpoints - vietnam and afghanistantrench war is a thing of the past anyway only resurfacing now in urkaine as both sides mindlessly killing themselves to a stalmate
>>218705088You can safely half Europe and the map wont change.
>>218706230The Gauls were renowed to suck at war and they were very disorganized in general.The Germanic foederatis had a similar reputationIt's more related to wit and competence which is more of a Mediterranean thingIf blind obedience had anything to do with it you would have east Asians at the top but they are also quite ass at warThe contempt for life is just an addition (very present in subsaharans and other browns doing LiveLeak videos at that)
>>218705088bodied that macaco freak
>>218705057Did you not see what happened in Venezuela
>>218706279Precisely it's guerilla warfare where they ran around and got massacred> mindlessly killing themselves to a stalmateYeah being able to do that is the point, in place of Ukraine almost every non-European country would have folded and the 3 day special operation would probably lasted 3 days
>>218706252dumb turd worlder, my ancestors were literally romans
>>218706287France has the best military record in the world. You are really overdoing it with the med vs nord larping, nobody in Europe thinks this way.
>>218706252it wasn't northern Europe doing the conqueringmate. the English had the greatest empire by size ever conceived, fuck you talking about
>>218706370Lasted like 8 days
>>218706356>Nobody in Europe thinks that wayModern European thought is irrelevant because modern Europeans are just deracinated mistery meat and culturally americanized, you believe you have some unbroken chain of cultural ancient tradition but all your culture is slop larp mixture of 19-20th century romantic enlightened nationalism and post WW2 American media. This was absolutely how it was seen in late antiquity by the Romans.The Germanics were sort of perceived as more competent and warlike, the Gauls to some extent but they were deemed much more incompetent as well (the celts in general sucked at war)If you believe the Greeks that smashed Persians were some autistic obedient bar bars you are delusional.The most hot tempered Europeans, especially in the south, were the ones that first and foremost excelled at war and conquest. And is very related to their mentality There is no french Alexander or Caesar (the later is renowed for conquering Gaul and killing Gauls by the millions actually)Your most remarkable military leader was a neurotic Italian midget from Corsica Romans saw servility and docility (accordingly) as unwarlikeness
>>218706370The anglo psychological type is somewhat different to the Scandi one.I think about peninsular Scandinavians as that example of a people that is pretty structured but because of that sucks at war
>>218705057The preeminent martial people.
>>218706445I understand you have American race brain with med vs nord variant but again, you are (literally) the deracinated one here since Europeans think in terms of nations until nowMany things happened since antiquity you know, there's been about 2000 years since. Why are you talking to me about Romans and Gauls ? Neither exist anymore, and France beat Italy enough times since then, they called it 'furia francese', nowadays I don't think anyone here or there cares that much anymore.Anyways I am not a Gaul I am a Frenchman, just like you are not le based Spanish med conquistador and legionary of Rome, you are an Argentinian.
will never happen again because we're too mixed and consoomermaxxed now. take me, I'd applaud whoever invades us and starts killing natives because I hate my own people.
>>218705057It's true, white people come from Mars
>>218706557and brown people come from Uranushahahahahha
>>218706504>I understand you have American race brain with med vs nord variant but againI think of terms of tribes, of barbarians and Romans, I think like people thought before the 18 to 20th century bourgeois revolutions and invented the modern Karl known as the "nation state"A weird political project with no precedent, with a ruling structure that has no parallels (universal suffrage) and one of the most unstable ethnic fluidity.Your identity is traced across the property lines of a couple nobles and aristcorsts and rearranged in a way it enforces territorialy typified civic nationalismThat is brainrot and unnatural, is a clear indicator of deracination and cultural brazilificationThe greeks saw themselves as Greeks be them born on Alexandria, Balearic colonies, Macedonia or Anatolia.The idea of identifying after a nation state border is a ridiculous modern concept I do not care about a obsolete government system in clear declineWe are heading to a world with no nation states, clearly a petty bourgeois failed project."French" is not an identity.Is a passport and "France" is an economic zone traced after the domains of nobles and royals, not identity or ethnic lines. Ngubu is as french as you are, and he has no shared ancestors with those that fought under Napoleon's orders
>>218706571>white boys got brown men in their anusesLMAO
>>218706582It's the other way around, larping as ancient ethnicities is precisely a late 19th century invention, an artificial and forced role play invented for political reasons. Nobody even talked about Gauls in France before the 1890s, when 3rd republic wanted a unifying myth for the whole territory, and one detached from Christianity. Normally before that you'd identify to your region and local ethnicity, French being (among many) one of those for anyone living in the French heartland.
>>218706571Brown people are Earth's original inhabitants
>>218706664No not really, the ancients saw it as I do, maybe for central Europeans that were illiterate peasants identity was simply an extent of their proximity but in the Italian nation states where the reinassance rose there was a broad consciousness of being the posterity and descent of Rome.You are also quoting a petty idea of civic nationalism that again, is no older than the 18th centuryAnd in our context, is already the past and no longer holds any meaning"French" is not a real people, France is a economic zone and frenchiness is the result of a passport giving you political rights on that economic zone.There is "French" passport holders that are Bantus, and no less Bantu than a Bantu from Ghana.There is French that are maghrebinian berbers.And no less Berber than one from Algeria, nor less french than a deracinated galloromanYou still try to identify with a rigid notion of ethnic identity formed arround a homogenized nation state that no longer exists.France is a multicultural economic zone with many different tribes, France means nothing now,nit means nothing about the people within, their ancestors, their history or their character.Again, something the ancients well understood.A Greek born in Egyptian provinces was still a GreekA Jew born in Italy was still a Jew.Etc etcThis petty identity you desperately hold onto is an obsolete relic of the 19th century that was both short lived and inefficient.
>>218706750You simply don't know French history. The first founding of Frenchness as an identity dates to the 1500s as Francis I commissioned artists, writers and diplomats to create a specific identity that transcended feudal local ones. It quickly took hold in the upper classes all around the country, as did the French language. Until the revolution the lower classes did keep identifying to their local identity, French obviously being one of those for anyone in the northwestern French heartland.As for the rest it's retarded, those people are not French and will never be. Everybody understands it, they understand it perfectly themselves.>Again, something the ancients well understood.>A Greek born in Egyptian provinces was still a Greek>A Jew born in Italy was still a Jew.Yes and an Arab born in France is an Arab not a Frenchman, can't you see you're just contradicting yourself ?Mind you, we have this discourse over here, people claiming they are Gauls in order to distinguish themselves from non-whites, it absolutely does exist and you are guessing correctly.And this fucking psyop to have French people larp as Gauls and give up French identity to anyone who wants is pure retardation, worst strategy I have ever heard of. What next you will ask English people to call themselves Britons and daub themselves in blue paint and larp as fucking cavemen instead of flying their cross and using their queen and empire whatnot as ethno-national symbols ? I seriously can't think of a greater downgrade, and to do it willingly also. "Let us larp as the least advanced iteration of our people instead of all the glorious ones we had since then, we totally are not looking like backwards morons". Yeah no thank you.
>>218706927The English just tend to call themselves anglos which takes it back to their ethnic character (I've, descendants of the anglo Saxons, a Germanic tribe, and Germanics were a collection of white tribes)There is blacks and Pakistanis born in Britain that are not anglo and because of that no one will associate them with the history and background, or wars and heritage of the anglos, yet they are British legally, culturally and for practical uses. And so they are retitled to the full civic rights of British passport holders.The reality is that "French" now means nothing, we were discussing the warlikeness and characters of a tangible group with nominally common ancestry (whites) and you began reeling about a nation-state identity, when today the french economic zone issues passports and bestows frenchness to Bantus, which in turn have nothing to do with the warlikeness of the whites (Gauls, basques, Bretons, etc)nthat dominated the french state back in the 17th century.it really tells us nothing to discuss about the French, at some point frenchness was synonymous with certain groups and that was enabled because of a representative supermajority.But that was on feudalism and early nation state, when populations were rigid and there was no representation or ethnic headcount to do for different tribes.The lords were often foreign but few it affected the peasantry and their self perception, so the peasantry was static.Now the political class is elected by groups, and groups within a economic zone and civic obligations organize across lines of tribal/racial identityBantus don't think "what will help us, french"They think "what is beneficial for Bantus and what disempowers the Gauls/whites away from power in the french economic zone" and vote accordingly.Stay on the real world, the 21th century is not the 18th century
>>218706417keep speaking your master's language you little rodent>>218706469i thought you meant like all of northern Europe, not just scandinavia
>>218707087You are pushing an open door. "Niggers are not French", yeah obviously.From here either you conclude that you should larp as Gaulish, or you can just keep saying that they are not French. Being French administratively is worthless, it's just a piece of paper, you need the French to consider you French in order to be French. Or you can also just call yourself white .Frankly at this point I'd rather just call myself white than larp as a Gaul, because that makes more sense in the 21st century.
>>218706445>The Gauls were bad at war.Stop talking out of your ass macaco.
>>218704846BaZed
>>218706445>>218706582>>218706750>>218707087>>>/pol/good on the Frenchman for trying to reason with you, but reason is apparently ineffective. you just keep restating your epiphanic conception like you got it all worked out.
>>218707219Then why do you throw an hysterical tantrum about "meh hecking americaranos" when the term white is used?What are the french whites? They are a collection of Germanics (Danes, franks, Burgundians) galloromans, basques, and Bretons that had an ethnogenesis somewhere in the late middle ages.We all understand this, and yet you reeee over the word white as if calling a cat a mammal somehow denied its unique catness.Yes everyone knows you are french. But actually just like you don't give a fuck about the practical distinctions between a nilo saharan malian nigger and a Niger-Congo Bantu from Namibia and just call them both niggers, neither do others about your nation state particularity Someone you need to recognize someone ancestors to identify their ethnic character Bavarian is more particular than German but not mutually exclusive.
>>218707444Bro be believing his lowbrow hybrid between yokel provincialism and bourgeois civic nationalism is fire This is why my ancestors made yours sleep in the stables with the animals, bar-bar
>>218707219I still don’t get it>You are pushing an open door. "Niggers are not French", yeah obviously.I agree in that blacks will never be any form of European purely because their people are not from Europe. But that reasoning works based on ethnic lines. Africans aren’t French, true, but then how can the French identity not be based on ethnicity? Is it based on history in the country, then? So if an African were to have been one of the few French people in France in 1600 and his descendants still live in France today, would he be French? If a German, Spaniard, Brit, whatever were to move to France, would they be French seeing as Frenchness doesn’t seem to discriminate on ethnicity? Anything else doesn’t seem right, there has to be a shared history and ethnic belonging that tells you ‘these are my people’.
>>218707534>my ancestorsyou're argyptinian lmao
>>218707179I would HAPPILY call anglos master if you had the balls to make it sexual
>>218707554*one of the few African people in France
>>218707559You see what I mean? My ancestors still made yours sleep in the stables, it doesn't matter where they hailed from there. They are still my ancestors, and I come from an uninterrupted line from their balls, be on argentina, south Africa, or china.You are "dutch" whatever that is, a dutch maghrebinian, a dutch syrian, or a dutch Germanic. Really don't matter at that point what passport you hold and where you live.You slept on the stables of my ancestors with the cows regardless, same as they did with the argentinian amerindians I guess haha
>>218707495>Then why do you throw an hysterical tantrum about "meh hecking americaranos" when the term white is used?We don't. The vast majority French people talk about whites blacks and arabs internally. Maybe this type of comment was common 20 years ago but not anymore.Whenever people say stuff like>"here in Europe we don't think of ourselves as white we think of ourselves as French, German, Italian ..."it's always a guy from fucking Poland or Romania or something where they are 99% white so they don't yet reason in racial terms.Of course we had a whole phase where people said "wow wtf stop importing race discourse from the usa !! race doesn't exist here ! see? the left is the real racists why are they using the word race?" but this was like early 2010s. Completely obsolete discourse now. Even before that the right has reasoned in racial terms forever, it was just more taboo at the time.Very rarely somebody from France will give you that discourse anymore unless they are a 60yo+ leftist
>>218707652>You slept on the stables of my ancestors with the cows regardlessand now I can buy your entire family lmao fuck off impoverished brownoid thirdie
>>218705057Based. I remember the great Maratha conquest of Portugal.
>>218707783Can that money buy the dignity of your great gramps x6-7 sleeping among cow shit and calling mine "master" though?
>>218707859You will never be superior to any European. Who gives a fuck about your ancestors when you’re Argentinian
>>218707859one of my ancestors caught protestants for the Spanish so maybe that 13% of you owes me some money. I'll get back to you on that but you can prepare your sister
>>218707663There is one french poster here that always leaks about the word white, I don't get it, it's yokel behaviour.Thought you were that one.At any rate I don't believe warlikeness has anything to do with "obeying orders mindlessly"Case in point Romans thought the opposite.Orientals (middle easterners) were seen as submissive to despots, effeminate, cowardly and servile and because of that unwarlike, while they saw the Europeans as more warlike for the opposite reason (more fond of freedom and whatnot)Being chink behaved is not the virtue, discipline is not the same, either.>>218707950>>218707897Does the word "Latifundium" triggers some sort of generational trauma on you two?
>>218708046no I had to Google it, by any means enjoy your we wuzzing
>>218708174My ancestors did all that effort so I could beat my chest and we wuz in their name while looking back at them :)Also you are a nafri
>>218706445You are a Celt too retard. Implying you are even 100% Spanish, Spaniards are latinized Celts just like us. So are the Portuguese and half of the Italian peninsula.
>>218708713we will never be white
>>218708713I know, I'm like 35% north Italian >>218707652I just teased him because he said something I didn't like
