طبعة الناس الجميلةBeautiful People Edition
>>219002429>americanid sooner call an algerian my brother
Lord Jesus Christ son of God, have mercy on me a sinner
>>219002520Pray to God alone
>>219002520spbp
>>219002572Jesus is God in the flesh, 100% divine and 100% human at the same time. Ask your theology professors at uni.
>Religious bait thread>No /mena/ flags>Starts off with an argument between an atheist troll and a spicSad! Wish you weren't retarded and could realize all your cults are bullshit and the products of desert pedos raving about hidden sky people from sun stroke
In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, we demand that the demons influencing this thread be gone. I profess the name of the LORD Jesus Christ, be gone!
>>219002746It's like saying 100% square and 100% circle, you cant be both.
>>219002792It turns out you followed a desert pedo and now you cope with atheism, you must feel real smart now
>>219003015Your president is a jewish whore. Your cuntBukele is Palestinian
kharaxico needs shariah
>>219002977How does God 100% know the future, yet you, as a human, are 100% endowed with free will?Divinity and humanity are orthogonal. They are perpendicular. They are different ball games, as you north americans say. A point on a graph can be at x = 1 and y = 1 at the same. Replace x with divinity and y with humanity.Who exactly are we to put limits on what God could do? Be open-minded and really consider that question (which is an important skill to have in uni)
>>219003049I don't like her that much ngl
>>219003120you aztecngrs are syncretic pagans not christian, cartel worships satan, your shithole is satanic
>>219003117Because there's limited potential actions I can take and only the ones we choose get actualized in reality, but God created all possible choices, a human can't be divine, because we are limited. It's a logical impossibility. Whereas a limited free will is not. You can't be all powerful and weak at the same time. You can't be ignorant of the hour yet all knowing. God can't die, humans die. It's not a limit I put on God, but just logic and reality must be consistent, God cant be a human, in the same say God cant kill himself, because it would be a logical inconsistency, which does not exist in reality and will never exist. Basically a semantic word play, like saying this sentence is false. If its false then its true, which means its false. But if its true, it means its false. It's a paradox, and a glitch in our limited language. In reality this does not exist.
>>219003190Santa muerte followers are a minority but yeah it is heresy the idiots who do don't realize they worship the devil
>>219003049English for the gringos
>>219003364bruh your entire religion is syncretic Gnosticism
اقتربت نهاية النظام الإرهابي في إيران
>>219002977>Ali dawah got rekt saying this
>>219004212What?
>>219003357>a human can't be divineThe human who was called Jesus Christ IS god. He did not "become" god. There is nothing inherently impossible about the incarnation, and you are wasting your time trying to prove that it's logically inconsistent, because it simply isn't.>God cant be a humanHe is not "a" human. You are implying that it's like a random human on street suddenly becoming blue, growing 4 extra arms, and being able to fly. He is and ALWAYS was God. He CHOSE to be born as a human. He CHOSE a year to be born (year 0 on your Canadian calendar). He CHOSE a mother (a virgin) to birth him. All this FOR US, to reveal his message. He himself, flesh and bone, IS that message, that revelation. He is the living Word. In arabic we call Jesus كلمة الله الحي. "The Word became flesh." It is on a whole other level from revealing a book, even psychologically. Think about what it was like for the Apostles to meet him, talk with him, have supper with him, etc.>Basically a semantic word playYou are right in that words have "glitches" in them. Language isn't perfect, and cannot even begin to encapsulate the whole of reality (something salafis seem unable to understand). In fact this weakens your argument, not make it stronger. Jesus didn't go about teaching people about Christology. He went around healing the lepers, the sick, and the blind. In fact, it's entirely fair to assume he didn't give a fuck about Christology.As for the rest of your argument, you are still insisting you can limit what God can do. Yet horse can fly. We will continue to disagree.>How does God 100% know the future, yet you ...You answered by saying "but God created all possible choices"Anon, he knows your choices in advance, so you are just kicking the can down the road. Do not obstinately pretend that there is no paradox here. Only and idiot wouldn't see the paradox of God's perfect foreknowledge paired with free will. I have never seen a muslim deny it.
>>219005229>Yet horse can flyHorse doesn't sacrifice horse to horse
>>219004720He once gave that very same argument at Speaker's Corner iirc and it totally backfired in a hilarious way. He was debating Avery.
>>219005854Nobody cares retard your god was crucified and theirs wasn'tMaybe your god should've learned to debate so he doesn't get crucified when he loses
>>219005954May you find the angelic Greek boy that soothes your soul
only 5 (now 6) posts out of 27 (28) are mena flagged
>>219006157>acting all tufff Cute
>>219006316I've only got eyes for you
>>219006370Exactly!
>>219005229>There is nothing inherently impossible about the incarnation, and you are wasting your time trying to prove that it's logically inconsistent, because it simply isn't.It is tho, you can ask any non muslim logician, a thing with a set of attributes cant be the same as something with the opposite attributes. Married bachelors or a square circle.>He is and ALWAYS was God.So the one without beginning or end choose to be a mammal from a planet that will come eons later? And his form has the reproductive organs and digestive organs of this mammal? For what use? Is any part of God redundant and useless?>CHOSE a mother (a virgin) to birth him.How can the unlimited God be limited in a womb? And how can he choose a place of filth to reside? And how can he get sustenance and live off a sinful body that inherited the original sin of Adam?>Jesus didn't go about teaching people about Christology. He went around healing the lepers, the sick, and the blind. In fact, it's entirely fair to assume he didn't give a fuck about Christology.Exactly why you cant prove your theology from the bible. Nothing about the trinity or him being God himself, just christian assumptions, which is why theres a million sects that disagree on christology.>We will continue to disagree.Because you are biased to the religion you were born in and you dont use your mind to think maybe you are wrong because your hatred of muslims blinds you to the truth.>he knows your choices in advanceYou make the choice, He doesn't force you.>Only and idiot wouldn't see the paradox of God's perfect foreknowledge paired with free will. I have never seen a muslim deny it.I'm a compatibilist Watch this video I think it will help you understand.https://youtu.be/5TaIKp4efRE>>219005854So you're one of those low iq rabble that watches crosskike apologist youtube all day thinking you've achieved something in your life or this will somehow stop the hemorrhage of crosscucks leaving your religion. kwab
>>219006114>I might be going on the IRC shortly to let them know about this abuse of power (by some fecaloid that does it for free)lmao karen
Andalus still technically exists
>>219006611get a job
>Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers and I will make him into a great nation.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1770258060107116.mp4
>>219006775you nothing else productive to do incel? at least post something funny
>>219006514I have to think you are being deliberately obtuse at this point. Note: I am not trying to "debate" you. I am no trying to "win" anything. I genuinely want to see if you can open your mind and understand the Christian dogma, without believing it. You should be able to entertain thoughts and play around with them in your mind, even (and especially) if you don't believe them.>a thing with a set of attributes cant be the same as something with the opposite attributes. For the millionth time. GOD CAN DO IT. ANd how is the God of Islam any different? Everyone knows that there are directly opposing attributes, multiple times, in his traditional "99 names".For the millionth time. I am not saying that a circle can be a square, or that a square can be a circle. Squares and circles aren't GOD. Bacherlors aren't GOD. GOD is GOD.Also, don't be condescending by acting like the law of excluded middle, from basic maths, is some big revelation that Christians somehow don't know about. And you don't need to be a "logician" (LOL wtf) to explain it to people.>How can the unlimited God be limited in a womb? The man historically known by the name Jesus Christ, as he walked the earth, was both 100% God and 100%. I already explained this, and I already told you to consult theologians at your Canadian uni, which was probably built by Chrisitan missionaries. I also gave you the x-y axis analogy.Jesus Christ was perfect, and without sin. Even Muhammed, according to Islam, wasn't perfect and without sin (God admonishes at some point the quran for ignoring a blind man, or something). So we already have a solid model of what it can mean for the divine and the human to dovetail. You think they are incomptabile, but God doesn't care what you think, or what the self aggrandizing muslim scholars think. Why? Because he is God.
>>219006514>Exactly why you cant prove your theology from the bibleTheology is a human endeavor and isn't what truly matters to God. Theology is a language game. Get it? Read it again: theology is a language game. And like all language games, it will always have holes/paradoxes in it. I only talk about it because you keep bringing it up as a negative, as if Islam didn't have its own theological holes/paradoxes. If it didn't, wars/fitnas wouldn't have been fought because of theology. We know about the mutazilites but we don't even have to dig into history. We know about the modern shia, and the endless shia sects, and the ahmdiyyas and the druze even.>Because you are biased to the religion you were born You now nothing.>I'm a compatibilistI know you are, by definition, since you believe both in free will and in predeterminism (since God has perfect foreknowledge of everything). But it doesn't solve the paraodox. It's a handwave attempt. It just says "they are compatible" without explaning how. Ok, so what? It's still a paradox. It's like if I responded to your arguments by saying "I'm a trinitarian." >Watch this video I think it will help you understand.How about you go fuck yourself
Another classic hole/paradox in Islamic theology:Orthodox muslim dogma states that the quran is uncreated. That means it has always existed and will forever continue to exist. That means the quran is eternal. But isn't only God eternal? Does that mean that the quran is somehow part of God? But isn't God without parts?This is a big part of what the mutazilites disagreed with btw.
لعنة الله عليكم
>>219007031>You should be able to entertain thoughts and play around with them in your mind, even (and especially) if you don't believe them.I am, but the only way to be in a christians shoe's is to suspend logic, and just believe its a mystery and only God knows how the trinity works. The main reason im not christian is that theres no solid scriptural evidence for it. The bible has been scientifically and historically proven by christians and other non muslims to be unreliable and tampered with. The fact your theology is so different from the jews is also a sign of being influenced by gnostics at the time. Christianity is built on foundations of sand, nothing, it collapses at the slightest analysis. I read parts of the old and new testaments that christians use as proof, and yet its extremely weak interpolations assumptions and eisegesis, which can easily be interpreted from the jewish pov.>Everyone knows that there are directly opposing attributes, multiple times, in his traditional "99 names".nah you are just too low IQ >Squares and circles aren't GOD. Bacherlors aren't GOD.im saying god cant create them because those arent things that exist in reality, just semantic babble>God doesn't care what you think, or what the self aggrandizing muslim scholars think. Why? Because he is God.god dosent care about logic or evidence n shiet just believe bro its a mystery trust me u will see jesus in ur dream :) Being sinless doesn't mean you are god btw
>>219007048>Theology is a human endeavor and isn't what truly matters to Godwhat you believe is what will decide your fate in the afterlife so yes it matters you need to know who and what god is. Are you implying every christian sect will be saved even unitrians like jehovas? In that case muslims and jews would also be saved. So theres no point in being christian. The difference between our sects and yours is that they are political and influenced by external beliefs while yours have no basis in the bible and contradict so they have to kill each other to dominate and become the orthodox one. Despite this the vast majority 90% of muslims are sunni, so sects basically dont exist. The reason sects like mutazilism died is because they contradict the quran, so even while they were in power they were not able to impose their views on the ummah.>You now nothing.i know you wish to massacre muslim babies and kick them out of lebanon, as i said your hatred makes you biased, you are just larping as a crusader to feel tough>doesn't solve the paraodoxits not a paradox you are just too low iq>How about you go fuck yourselfnice christian manners , seems you are sensitive at anything challenging your beliefs, notice how i never insulted you before this>>219007178It's not eternal because it had a beginning. It's an instance of the uncreated attribute of speech of God. It's not a part of God because it's not the attribute of speech itself but an instance of speech. Like an action of God is not the uncreated attribute of omnipotence itself but an instance of God's ability to act.
>>219002572>>219003357>Purposely cuts out the meaning of the versesHow's the Dawah scene these day? Seems to be in trouble with the Islamic Dilemma. >>219002792>everyone but my cult is retarded>>219003734>going full retard
>>219008191>Islamic DilemmaNot a thing, debunked a million times, crosscucks grasping at weak straws like this shows me how desperate they are. This is why millions of christians convert to islam yearly. Alhamdulillah>>going full retardBaby gonna cry? Just found out your beliefs are copied from pagans?
I don't know why crosscucks are obsessed with muslims and try to debate them online. Dude you are boring as fuck, we dont see you as a threat, you are irrelevant globally and dying out. Its more fun for me to troll shiites.
>>219008421>orthodox >catholic>muslimi admire his perseverance in seeking the truth but why would an orthodox ever switch to catholicism?
How did Indians trick everybody into believing that India is a land of deep mysticism and enlightenment?Only in recent years did they get exposed as street shitters.Fucking Japanese and Chinese culture copied them. They introduced the world to yoga, kama sutra, samsara, and all that shit.
Boomer cuckold (pleonasm)
>>219009429how do we avoid this?
>>219009734it's too late, day of the pillow soon
>>219009734Keep saggy tits nappy hair fatima under 2 layers of burqa and marry her to the first guy you see in the first row of the mosque least she starts dancing over your light-reflecting egghead while flopping her pancakes in a polyester temu dress
>>219009776what if she refuses?
>>219008431>crosscucks are obsessed with muslimsاليهود مش عايزين حد يصبح يهودي، الهندوس والبوزيين مش بيجروا ورا حد عشان يغير لدينهم ومش بيعملوا دعوة، فبس الإسلام والنصرانية متبقية. غالباً زعلانين برضو من عدم رفض المسلمين لاستخدام القتل لتحقيق أهدافهم مما يجعلهم أكثر نجاحاً من النصارى.الصحكة عليهم هم الاثنين، الإلحاد هينسفهم في القرن ده خاصةً مع تزايد اتحاية النت وتزايد مستويات التعليم والمعيشة.>>219009429محزن نيك :(
>>219009790
>>219009790فاكر الحريم ده هترفض شئ؟
>>219009429what country is this?
>>219007031and idk why you keep bringing up uni it seems you're jealous of my world class education
بالحديث عن الزواجالرسول تزوج بسن ال25أنا 25 الآن و لا أظن أنني سأتجوز قريبا في هذه السنواتما الفائدة من الحياة؟
>>219010487كن hagmaxxer مثل الرسول أشرف المرسلين
Was Epstein really worse than Mohammedﷺ?
>>219010505"الرسول هو الذي قال "فَهَلَّا بكْرًا تُلَاعِبُهَا وتُلَاعِبُكَأكذب لو قلت لا أتمنى بكرا صغيرة
>>219009801Atheism is a laughingstock plus they cant breed, cope by becoming trannies or roping.
High track speedVodka no limit
mafeesh 7aga tigi kidda ihta 7abibi kidda w yrg3a zey zaman
>>219002205متأكد مئة بالمئة أنه لا يوجد سيرڤر خليجيتي أو سعوجيتي على ميتريكس. تبا لماذا نحن هكذا دائما. حزن>>219002792الفحل الكميتي هو صوت المنطق مرة آخرى
>>219008083>>219008100You are not acting in good faith since you are still including those trashy, /pol/-tier images in your posts, like they were some kind of gotchas. You are acting like a weasel, not a human being.Also, you ignored most of the meat of my posts.>but the only way to be in a christians shoe's is to suspend logic, This is polemical and you know it by now, since I explained the logic many times. God being omnipotent solves the issue as I have explained 20,000 times.>The main reason im not christian is that theres no solid scriptural evidence for it. The bible has been scientifically and historically proven by christians and other non muslims to be unreliable and tampered with. The fact your theology is so different from the jews is also a sign of being influenced by gnostics at the time. Christianity is built on foundations of sand, nothing, it collapses at the slightest analysis. I am not interested in this. I am only interested in whether you are capable of having an open mind enough to comprehend the Christian dogma, without even believing it.>Despite this the vast majority 90% of muslims are sunni, so sects basically dont exist. That is a laughable argument. I won't bother with it. Is "truth" a democratic poll now?>i know you wish to massacre muslim babies and kick them out of lebanonThis is 4chan retard, and the trashy images you post "debunking" Chrisians are worse.>its not a paradox you are just too low iqIt is very obviously a paradox, and you are the one with subpar IQ, not me. You are being deliberately obtuse.>nice christian mannersHypocrite, did you see what you sent me? Are you a hypocrite, or just retarded?>It's not eternal because it had a beginning. Since it's uncreated, it doesn't have a beginning, you fucking idiot. You accuse me of being illogical, then you say the most illogical things! Jackass. You are basically saying "god created it by talking". Read again: IT DOES NOT HAVE A BEGINNING.
>>219008100>what you believe is what will decide your fate in the afterlifeSee, this is the salafi autism I was talking about. You need to touch grass and have sex. Religion is not about a set of propositional statements with yes/no answers. Religion is not language games. It is something felt. Are you capable of feeling things? Have you ever felt it?>Are you implying every christian sect will be saved even unitrians like jehovasYa hmar, God "saves" you depending on your individual conscience. Your quran says he is closer to you than your aortic artery: it means he knows your inner world, your conscience, whether you are a good person or not.>This is why millions of christians convert to islam yearly. AlhamdulillahYou live la la land. The number is definitely not in the millions. Yearly, muslims are increasing by the 10's of thousands in the western world, and that is mostly because the women breed like rabbits. Wake up.Also, it's not a fucking gameshow, or a popularity contest. Again, touch grass.
Also, did it not even cross your mind that those sects have lowish numbers because the others prosecuted them brutally and oppressed them?
>>219008421>Not a thing, debunked a million times,It cannot be debunked. It is extremely simple. The quran asks 7th century people to use the Bible to check the truth of Islam. However, the Bible in the 7th century, like today, denies Islam.It CANNOT be debunked. It is too simple to debunk. The muslims have two options:1. Accept the dilemma and fo some geniuine soul searching2. Cope
>>219010487>صورة ذات صلةتبًا إن الأبيات تضرب بقوة...لا أعتقد أني سأستطيع أن اختار بين >>219010505 و >>219010609 أبدًا. أنا مهووس بالمِلّفات وأؤمن أن قدر الله لمحمد بأن تكون خديجة زوجته الأولى لم يكن عشوائي ، لكن أنا أيضًا أؤمن أنه لا يمكن لمرأة أن تحب رجلاً مثل العذراء (و شبه مستحيل أن تجد مِلّفًا مناسبة لكن عذراء).اللهم لا تحرمنا من الكوبيوم المركز.
>>219002501plot twist, he is an american algerian sephard
>>219012550>505>550>أرقامي مشابه لأرقام منشور المِلّفاتالأرقام لا تكذب. أيضًا بامپ خالي من البدع
>Jail a bunch of social media tards, finally build 10 mud houses for the victims of the eartquakes from back in fucking 2023>allah sends rain enough to keep the country water reserves full for the next decade>Host a degenerate event inviting apostates from across the world, cheat and deceive in hopes of humiliating their muslims senegalese brothers>Lose the event and two weeks later an entire region becomes at risk of tropical tier floodsDo they ever learn ?
>>219014829I always wonder how do people live after a flood that is not big enough to be considered a national disaster but still ruins everything in your house
>>219014863They suck it up and maybe say 3acha lmanik and push down the water out then pretend nothing happened
>>219014829Comfy pic, I love rain.Every time it rained, our street would get flooded... and we lived across a palace.
>>219014829the people build in places formerly known as oued and wonder when the places get flooded
>>219015283More like they rent wherever it's cheap and dont really realize the cost reduction is due to the fact that executives and topographists/geologists and architects from 40 years ago knew it was inadequate for building but still signed permits of building and laid down plans It's funny how ancient medinas avoid the paths of oueds and the rurals near cities also do but urban expansionism considers itself above the laws of nature and the only people who suffer do by absolute improvidence
>>219015432only when you dont put some sewers and storm canals below the street. in my experience the streets in north africa lack those entirely or they are to small
>>219015893They're there, just perma clogged even during summer and never maintained
Legit no Palestinian looks like that btw Why do Westerners force this weird POC shit on arabs and Latinos
>>219017474blame the US an their race fantasies
>>219017622I am asking because at some point I feel like Westerners will just say Palestinians look whiter than that because of Crusader rape or something
>>219017669arabs literally look like any sephardic jew. you could take the big nosed jew memes and use them for arabs
قُلْ مَنْ حَرَّمَ زِينَةَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي أَخْرَجَ لِعِبَادِهِ وَالطَّيِّبَاتِ مِنَ الرِّزْقِ ۚ قُلْ هِيَ لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا خَالِصَةً يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8KeO6vli4I spent lots of hours in the last couple of days browsing the Epistine files... doing this before I sleep was really a bad idea... I stopped doing it because I got really scared about how all my thoughts about the world and its truth were uncannily similar to Epistine's... his charisma and mannerisms are also so similar to me... I think that if I wasn't born into a family that is not evil, I might have dabbled with magic and become something really evil... I was told that am compatible with magic by our village chief who is a very strong mage... My birth date and my body/life possessed lots of signs that I was spiritually compatible to do lots of things... but I never tried them out... I know that if I did, I would never go back to being innocent... If I did it? I would be just like him... even if I didn't go for the big shots of the evil world who required big sacrifices... even dealing with the small ones would require me to sell a part of me to them... I would sell my current self that stayed away from badness for all of its life... I would sell all my parents' efforts and my special_one promise to be together later... I will not do it... no matter what, I will not do magic...I started staying with my cord male friend for lots of hours so that I can stop thinking about that... but before it? I also was searching about 'Eyes Wide Shut', Stanley Kubrick's last movie... the movie that held the biggest message in all of film history... the movie that wanted to condemn all of humanity for staying silent toward evil and shutting their eyes even though it is wide open to what is happening... this was him clearing his conscience and telling the world about what he knows in the most unforgettable way... movies were meant to be this... they were created to deliver a greater message that can't be sent with mere words... they were made to make us see the truth with our own eyes...
in that regard? great movies like that feel like they are a miracle..and people like Kubrick feel like a messenger sent to deliver a great message...he wanted us to hear this..for his last movie? it was his final message to humanity..'The world is evil, and you are allowing it to be so by being silent'..This movie might have changed the world if it was released like it was supposed to be..if that piece at the end of it wasn't cut..through my search, I found someone who claimed he heard about what was supposed to happen in the end of it from a good source..his words seemed sincere..I know lots of people keep lying about what the end was supposed to be..but what that guy wrote? It felt like the closest thing to the truth I have ever heard..what happened later in the movie was the strongest message ever..It was very strong and no one was ready at all to have this discussion...but that is fine..humanity will never be ready for it anyway..but Kubrick wanted them to be and made it..in that final scene? h drew the curtains upon the whole movie industry and declared that this is the movie that will be the last one seen by humans before the whole world and industry would change...but that didn't happen..they killed him before he could do it..and they changed his movie as an attempt to mock him...they defiled his work and turned it into something entertaining for them instead...they turned it into a movie they can watch and enjoy...they think by doing that, they have won against the last and biggest resistance from the human soul toward their monstrosity...them killing him in that way and on that special day is a message to those who know his death was not normal...it is a message of what will happen to anyone who stands in their way...but what they didn't know? is that by doing that, they made this movie a last stand that humanity has taken against them, and they proved that humans can win... this movie? it is a symbol of hope that we can do it...we will one day! for sure...
>>219018764>>219018819>>>/x/
>shows up out of nowhere>posts two walls of text totaling about 720 wordswhat's his problem?
>truth of life hurt them because it made them think about what kind of world we are living in and how fragile our lives really are>or they are just cutie who can't see the truth because the truth will mean all of our lives and our ancestors lives were a big fat lie
>>219019033>out of nowhereI didn't know we're supposed to make everyone aware somehow before posting
fresh 100% female russian at my yacht
I used to post here about 10 years ago under a mauritanian flag. Havent looked at this general since but I'm very happy this place is as autistic and sad as it used to be
what do you call a middle eastern chilli pepper?a halalpeneo
