There is no afterlife, and deep down most people already know this but can't handle it. Your consciousness isn't some magical soul floating around, it's literally just neurobiological processes firing in your brain. When your brain stops, you stop. Period. We're complex meat computers and when the hardware fails there's no software backup to the cloud. Philosophers love dancing around this with ontological gymnastics and vitalist cope about consciousness transcending the physical, but it's all just elaborate denial. Science tells us we came from inanimate matter and we'll return to it. Freud was right that the aim of all life is death, a return to that inorganic state we borrowed ourselves from for a cosmically brief moment. In 4.5 billion years the sun dies and takes all trace of human thought with it, and the universe won't even notice we were here. No part of "you" persists because there is no "you" separate from the physical processes that generate the illusion of selfhood. Extinction isn't a doorway to something else, it's just the lights going out forever. Every spiritual framework or philosophical system that promises otherwise is just folk psychology and primitive theory we cling to because accepting annihilation is psychologically unbearable. But unbearable doesn't mean untrue.
>>224985846Jesus loves you
there is an afterlife and you WILL feel the sense of belonging you always craved in this materialistic world since you were a kid :)
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believing in nothingness (a human construct that does not and cannot exist) is just as stupid as believing in a sky daddy who will send you to 1 of 2 afterlifes depending on whether he deems you wholesome 100 or not based on his arbitrary contradictory rules
>>224985846>Your consciousness isn't some magical soul floating around, it's literally just neurobiological processes firing in your brain.no one has any idea what consciousness is. 'It's neurobiological processes' is a meaningless non-answer that does not actually explain the existence of consciousness
>>224985880OP BTFO
>>224985846>Science tells us
>>224986083>believing in nothingnessRemember when you weren't born?You came from nothing and you go back to nothing. That's like natural.
which religion is correct? only yours?fucking retards
>>224986310>which religion is correct?Judaism.
>consciousness comes from biologyThat’s the soft problem of consciousness. The hard problem is, why am I experiencing something right now? What makes me different from a robot with cameras for eyes and microphones for ears, if anything? Where does that experience exist? What would it even mean for it to be “just an illusion?” It has an effect on the physical world, so how can it just be an abstract layer on top of the world?
>>224986684look up orch-OR consciousness
>>224986721Nothing to do with what I’m talking about and also wrong and makes no sense
>>224985880TRVKERVKE
>>224986136It dies explain tho
>>224986684>What makes me different from a robotNothing
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>>224986310None. It's literally copium for our existential fears and lack of answers.
>>224985846The love of God is eternal. Cope.
>>224985846TRVKE. RELIGION COPERS ARE SEETHING.
>>224985846i almost died and experienced an out of body experience with evidence of it happening in the form of a lot of money from crypto that my death experience told me to buyto all of you freaking out about it, there is somethinf after i dont know what but i know it
>>224989865I'd like to believe we get another run at this very life, but the world building and lore are more improved this time so less of a fuckery in the global life.Our memories of our past lives are only revealed to us in small bits in those dreams where we see something vaguely real then the next day or a few days later see the exact same thing or something very similar to it.Of course, these are all wishful thinking.
>>224985846People who don't believe in god are often more retarded than idiots who do because they don't follow a set of basic common sense principles that keep them from turning into degens. It's very rare that a man can accept there is no god, and not worship an ideal or a state without regressing into a narcissistic apathetic slob without meaningful objectives or will. We have applicable examples of this with modern day atheists who've replaced god with the communist system, or just hedonism in general.As far as the afterlife goes, we don't know until we have the technology to bring someone back to life from braindeath. Thinking we know everything about reality and death is the midwit's folly.
>>224985880like always some faggot has to be pushing his issues on other people's shoulders
>>224985846I refuse to acknowledge this, even it turns out to be true. Fake it till you make it. If souls don't exist, humanity will make them exist eventually. I believe in the infinite potential of humanity. Fuck this cruel universe and all of its laws and limitations, if it wasn't made for us, we will make it made for us.
>>224989865Not really a supernatural experience
>>224990079Meaningless post that don't address OPs point
>>224990079Yeah, this is cope and a stupid one. Do you really need to draw your principles from a 2000 year old book that condones slavery and says that if you don't believe on it then you're going to hell for all eternity? All main schools of ethics have ditched religion for more rational principles.
>>224990177*Dedicates tons of water to make fruit novellas*
>>224985846Currently the very best post on all of 4chan. The hard problem of consciousness is itself bunk. You bow to no one, champ. Least of all to some bearded fellow who takes an outsized interest in creating all sorts of beetles.
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>>224990227predicting the future is not super natural?
>>224990295>condones slaverythere you showed why low iq niggers shouldn't read the bible or any book in general for that matter.How is something happening in the book "condoning"is a book that talks about the holocaust condoning it too?
>>224985846grok is this true
>>224991224I have no need or will to read any religious book at all, but the consensus among people who have studied it is that it does condone slavery. It's irrelevant to my post, anyway. You can have ethics without religions as most ethics philosophy schools do.
>>224991275It is **a defensible materialist interpretation, but not all of it is established fact**.The strongest scientific part is that every known change in consciousness, memory, personality, and sense of self is closely tied to changes in the brain. Anesthesia, brain injury, neurodegenerative disease, drugs, sleep, and electrical stimulation can all alter or suspend conscious experience. Current research therefore strongly supports the view that ordinary human consciousness depends on functioning brain networks—not on an independently detectable mental substance. But “there is no afterlife, period” goes beyond what science can presently demonstrate. Science has found no reliable, reproducible evidence that a person’s memories or consciousness continue after irreversible destruction of the brain. That makes postmortem survival unsupported by current evidence, but absence of evidence is not a logical proof of impossibility. It is a conclusion about the best-supported model, not an experimentally established universal negative.A few other claims in the passage are overstated:- **Near-death experiences do not establish an afterlife.** People who report them have survived cardiac arrest or extreme physiological crisis; their experiences may occur before, during, or after loss of circulation while brain function is fluctuating. Neuroscientific models offer plausible explanations involving oxygen deprivation, neurotransmitters, disrupted sensory integration, and memory reconstruction, though some details remain unresolved. - **“Science tells us we came from inanimate matter” is imprecise.** Evolution explains how life diversified once life existed; the origin of the first life—abiogenesis—is still an open scientific problem. It is reasonable to say that humans are composed of matter and descended from earlier life, but the origin-of-life question is not fully solved.
>>224991340- **“The self is an illusion” is philosophical language.** The self may not be a separate soul or indivisible entity, but that does not make it unreal in every sense. A self can be an emergent, changing process—like a living organism, a language, or a hurricane—without being a ghostly substance.- **The claim that most people secretly agree is psychological speculation.** Some people may reject an afterlife because they find the evidence insufficient; others may affirm or suspend judgment for philosophical, religious, or experiential reasons. Their motives cannot simply be reduced to denial.- **The Freud line is not a scientific result.** Freud’s “death drive” was a speculative psychoanalytic theory, not an experimentally confirmed law that life literally seeks inorganic matter.The most accurate summary would be:> The evidence strongly indicates that human consciousness, memory, and personality depend on the brain, and there is currently no robust scientific evidence that personal consciousness survives irreversible brain death. Whether that makes an afterlife impossible is a metaphysical conclusion, not something science has conclusively proved.The passage is strongest when it says that brain-based explanations are currently best supported. It becomes overconfident when it presents philosophical naturalism as though it were the only conclusion science itself can logically force.
>>224991292>people who have studied itwho are these "people" because every single non faggot non lgbtpq* and non libtard that studied doesn't use it to condone slavery.The historical proof is that it actually was Christianity that was used to END slavery of africans in America.So you should take your sources better but you won't because you already made up your "rational" mind
>>224991364>>224991340https://youtu.be/qYKI6Xjw2K8
>>224991421furthermore the whole old testament slavery argument is retarded because in the old testament there was also prostitution, which is not condoned by Christianity and never was.So the whole argument about something happening in ancient times and God not coming out of the sky to stop it's so stupid.
>>224991421>The historical proof is that it actually was Christianity that was used to END slavery of africans in America.By cherrypicking passages, if they actually followed the teachings of the Bible they shouldn't have any problem with slavery. That is why it is flawed as a moral compass.
