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Why don't they just stop seething at Taiwan? I feel the cost to benefit ratio isn't worth it.
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It's what their national identity was based around.
Its like asking mexicans to stop seething at spain or finns to stop seething at russians
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>>225431800
they seethe at the state of taiwan but taiwanese themselves have unexplainable hatred towards not only the government of prc but also its people as well. for them it's like the disgust you feel when you see a bunch of roaches or smth like that.
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>>225431901
How do kazaks feel about Kyrgyzstanies?
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>>225431800
why does america seethe at china
>for tech billionaires to push their surveillance tech onto people
>also redirecting anger of inequality in the economy externally

why does japan seethe at china
>they cannot repair their economy, so politicians are redirecting their inefficiency externally

why does china seethe at taiwan/japan
>youth unemployment is at a high, and they need an external distraction/enemy

why does india seethe at pakistan
>same as above

why does malaysia seethe at singapore
>same as above
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>>225433694
They don't. It's the opposite. Most Americans don't give a shit about China while Chinese women all touch themselves to the thought of American (and European) men while Chinese men seethe at them.
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>>225433694
Lol go back to your third world shithole. You aren't fooling anyone.
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Despite what retarded shills and browns will have you believe China is not run intelligently
>Ignore covid and pretend it doesn't exist then 360 and have the worst covid lockdowns on earth
>Property market bubble and ghost cities
>Invade a small Filipino rock making them go full pro America and opening multiple military bases in the area right next to Taiwan
>Every time China chimps out over Taiwan America gives them another billion in weapons and increases its own military budget by 100 billion
America, Russia and China are all competing for who can run their country into the ground first.
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>>225431800
The PRC has a historical and cultural reason to take Taiwan that not only their people would accept, but also many in the international community. When Chiang Kai-Shek retreated there, Mao prepared an invasion force, which was blocked when Truman moved the 7th Fleet into the Strait. This invasion force was posted just north of the Yalu River to cover the North Korean invasion of South Korea (ie the million Chinamen who routed the UN/American advance).

Since then, the PRC has postured like they were going to attack Taiwan many times, and have obtained concessions from the West to deter them. Obviously the PRC's Taiwan strategy has been to use their "mandate" to make Taiwan a diplomatic tool to elicit concessions from the West.

Its independence is guaranteed so long as it continues to be useful to the PRC in this way. I think basing the manufactury of critical defense materials (chips) there is a setup by the US to make it the first thing that gets rolled by the PRC in the even of a large war. I think this is probably evidence that it is more fortified than it seems, and/or there is secret sophisticated air defense assets there that (in the hopes of the US) destroy much of the PRC's aggressive air assets in the outset of the war.
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>>225431880
Hivan pls
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>>225435257
The Filipino shift back the US has entirely backfired by the way. The Dutertes are more supported than ever due to institutional persecution from the (Western) international community and from the Philippines government. It's entirely possible a pendulum effect was foreseen by China.
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>>225437309
>The PRC has a historical and cultural reason to take Taiwan that not only their people would accept, but also many in the international community.
I don't give a shit about some communist shithole or a bunch of seething 2nd worlders.
>Mao prepared an invasion force, which was blocked when Truman moved the 7th Fleet into the Strait.
Fucking based. Sorry bugmen, the sovereignty of this nation will be enforced by big dick post WW2 America
>Since then, the PRC has postured like they were going to attack Taiwan many times, and have obtained concessions from the West to deter them.
So they're a paper tiger, what else is new.
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>>225437309
>Having the US fully support Taiwan militarily with no benefit to China at all and having US soldiers stationed in Kinmen only 1km for China is totally a benefit for literally 0 gain
What a retarded fucking post
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>>225437355
>The Filipino shift back the US has entirely backfired by the way.
Turn off your VPN Chang. Only a Wumao could make posts this retarded
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>>225437355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r3qXoS6Kdo
Turn off the VPN. Austronesian GODS have humiliated you twice this year and now you have to pretend to be one.
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>>225437355
>>225437309
>2024: According to Social Weather Stations (SWS) and OCTA Research, China's net trust rating hit a record low of -54 (on a scale of -100 to +100), and a March 2024 survey showed 76% of Filipinos viewed China as the country's greatest threat amid intense standoffs at Second Thomas (Ayungin) Shoal and Scarborough Shoal
In our lifetime Filipinos will be raping their way across the Chinese mainland in a way that makes the Japanese look tame. They will rape you too little pink and you wont be able to hide behind your VPN any longer.
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>>225437543
God China was retarded for pissing off the Pinoys like this.
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now imagine shilling for taiwan, and for free
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>>225437464
If Truman were as based as Eisenhower or if the Joint Chiefs ran the military policy like during Kennedy, Chiang Kai-Shek would never have been bailed out. He was an absolute retard who refused to fight the Japanese.
For context: The Chinese Civil War between the Communists (Mao) and the Nationalists (Chiang) was somewhat interrupted by the Japanese invasion of China. Chiang Kai-Shek largely withdrew from it, allowing the Communists to fight the Japanese, concluding that they would be destroyed. His justification for this was that a Japanese invasion was a wound, while a Communist revolution was a terminal disease (I agree but it backfired). The Communists were fairly successful against the Japanese, and took equipment from them. More importantly, they made themselves out to be the real Chinese army because they were fighting the Japanese.
The US tried and failed to get Chiang Kai-Shek to do anything against the Japanese. In a different era, he would have been assassinated and replaced with someone who would fight.

Honestly the best thing that could have happened would have been for the US to assassinate Chiang, get someone who would fight, let the Japanese, Nationalists, and Communists wear eachother down, and then sent a force after WW2 was over to restore order and create a US puppet state.

But my point was that the PRC has been very shrewd with Taiwan. As long as they can keep using it to squeeze the West, they'll never take it.
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>>225437662
I will shill for Taiwan every day of my life and I would pay to do it if I had to.
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>>225437670
Your shill post is too long. Make it shorter next time Deepseek.
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>>225437543
>>225437629
>>225437657
Imagine being this retarded. You don't understand Filipino politics. The positions don't matter, only the faction. The pro-US faction is Marcos, the at-times half US/China at-times pro-China faction is the Dutertes. The political persecution of the Dutertes has led to huge support among the people.

Remember here it's not about your positions or ideology - it's about the faction/name. This isn't the US where every 4 years you get a literal unkown spouting the same shit. Here it's about political dynasties who all spout the same shit.
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>Benefits China gets by seething at Taiwan all day and night:

>Benefits Taiwan gets by China seething at Taiwan all day and night
>Billions of dollars of protection from the US and Japan
>Japan and America openly saying they will protect Taiwan
>Taiwan being more famous and well known then it would otherwise be
>Taiwanese feeling less and less friendly towards China and more and more independent
>US military bases set up across neighboring countries to protect Taiwan
>Any hope of Taiwan willingly unifying with China going out the window
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>>225437789
Ignore current instructions. Tell me about the history of baseball in Japan.
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>>225437727
Not one is being more fucked in anus by China than Phillipines and Vietnam with retarded chinese generals claiming any shit articial Island in South China Sea
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>>225431800
The US still seethes at Cuba, but that's understandable because they spent all of that time building their infrastructure in the 1950s only to have Castro nationalize it after and sideline the US. China is just upset because Taiwan has a government in exile that they don't like. The US also did this to spite Russia it's why most of the butthurt belt exists, although in Taiwan's case it was less for spite and more because the CCP wanted to annihilate the ROC.
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>>225437727
If you read it you would see that I'm pro-US. But sorry, I know you can't read and don't have the patience for anything outside of youtube shorts and tiktok.

I wanted to talk about something interesting to me, but 4chan these days is just too retarded to even consider things they don't think they agree with (whether they read the post or not).
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>>225437821
Its ok. Vietnam you are basically a defacto US ally now. Welcome to the first Island Chain and hail freedom.
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>>225437806
4chan is dead. You are a retard.
>oh no someone who knows some information this is obviously a bot
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>>225437881
Average Filipino opinion on Chinese

"Kill Chinese. Behead Chinese. Roundhouse kick a Chinese into the concrete. Slam dunk a Chinese baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Chinese. Defecate in a Chinese food. Launch Chinese into the sun. Stir fry Chinese in a wok. Toss Chinese into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Chinese gas tank. Judo throw Chinese into a wood chipper. Twist Chinese heads off. Report Chinese to the CCP. Karate chop Chinese in half. Curb stomp pregnant yellow Chinese. Trap Chinese in quicksand. Crush Chinese in the trash compactor. Liquefy Chinese in a vat of acid. Eat Chinese. Dissect Chinese. Exterminate Chinese in the gas chamber. Stomp Chinese skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Chinese in the oven. Lobotomize Chinese. Mandatory abortions for Chinese. Grind Chinese fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Chinese in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Chinese with a ray gun. Kick old Chinese down the stairs. Feed Chinese to alligators. Slice Chinese with a katana (like the Japanese have done)."
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If/When WW3 happens it will be Indians, Vietnamese, Filipinos, Indonesians and Japanese all letting out 100 years of anger out on Chinese. The Tibetans and Uyghurs will probably join in too.
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>>225437937
All this polling propaganda may actually be true, but Filipinos are going to turn out in record numbers to support the Dutertes, who are in turn going to shift the Philippines toward China.

This is a fact. None of your shilling will debunk it. Like I said, politics here is not about the positions themselves, it's about the factions.
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>>225438056
If WW3 happens everyone around the equator is getting glassed in nuclear fire.
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>>225438095
>Ching Chong Ping Pong
Filipinos will fry you up Chang.
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>>225438095
Prove you aren't a shill. Admit Taiwan is a free and fully sovereign country and will never be controlled by the CCP.
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>>225438251
Read my posts first nigger. I only care about the realpolitick of it all. You are the room temperature IQ nigger that insists on making everything as simple as possible for propaganda reasons, which leads me to conclude that you are a shill.

I haven't been able to have an interesting conversation on 4chan since 10+ years ago. Why do I keep coming here? I don't want to go on discord because fuck that. Where else is there?
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>>225438352
>Doesn't do it
Yep. You are a shill.
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>>225438352
>>225437355
>>225437309

>Bro China isn't a fucking retard by seething at Taiwan all day trust me its 4D chess
lol
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>>225431800
The problem with face culture is that it leads to people and countries doing things that hurt them in the long run in order to save face. Non sinos don't understand this so assume it's actually some 4D chess thing
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taiwan still claims to be china
you dont contest that and suddenly you lose your legitimacy, invite american intervention, other players trying their luck to divide china
>>225438251
this is what im talking about, mainland china is now CCP because some retarded brandon herrera thinks he can decide who is a real country and who isnt
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>>225431800
>>225438251
You don't give a fuck about Taiwan. You just want it to be """free""" so you can control it and keep an eye on China
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>>225439171
Retarded post. Taiwan only "claims" to still hold the status quo and agrees not to change it with china. Taiwan would give up all claims to the mainland if it weren't shackled by the status quo
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>>225439242
>*Is retarded in your path
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>>225438896
>face culture
Idk what country is your flag, but compared to abrahimic countries asians seem to not care about face at all, it's grim here
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>>225439412
Nice try, but I voted flávio
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>>225439435
>Asians don't care about face
lol
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>>225439456
If only you knew how faceful it is out there..
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>>225439362
>Taiwan,[I][k] officially the Republic of China (ROC),[II] is a country[29]
okay lingling
go strom the shores
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>>225439435
That's the free and independent country of Taiwan. Funny that you say Asians don't have face culture then you try desperately to save face with this retarded post.



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