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This thread is for anything related to the discussion of Japanese light novels, WN / Web Novels included.
Learning Japanese to avoid censorship by localizations is highly recommended.

>Where to read WNs:
https://syosetu.com/
https://kakuyomu.jp/
https://noc.syosetu.com/
https://mnlt.syosetu.com/
https://mid.syosetu.com/

>Light Novel databases:
https://kimirano.jp
https://bookmeter.com

>Where to buy:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/
https://www.amazon.com/
https://bookwalker.jp/
https://books.rakuten.co.jp
https://j-novel.club/
https://www.kobo.com

>Recommended readers:
Android, Libera https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foobnix.pro.pdf.reader/
PC epub reader: https://calibre-ebook.com/
https://reader.ttsu.app/
>WN to e-book downloader:
https://github.com/whiteleaf7/narou
>Reliable OCR:
https://github.com/blueaxis/Poricom

>Main fan TL dump:
https://lnwncentral.wordpress.com/
https://nyaa.si/view/1202979
>Official translations:
v21.0: https://nyaa.si/view/1752934
v21.1: https://nyaa.si/view/1763804
v21.2: https://nyaa.si/view/1774657
>Raw dumps:
https://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=TMW
https://nyaa.si/view/799168
https://nyaa.si/view/1350523
https://boroboro.neocities.org/listfullepub.html


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Please share if you have something from this list:

[JP] ようこそ実力至上主義の教室へ 終・1年生編BOX トモセシュンサク Art Works
[JP epub] volumes 9-11 of Arifureta
[JP] 負けヒロインが多すぎる
[JP] 王妃ユーライア 穢されし淫紋の聖女 ~エルフ王国の崩壊~
[JP] 亡びの国 7
[JP] 姉が剣聖で妹が賢者で
[JP] 残虐すぎる異世界でも鈴木は可愛い
[JP] 信じていた仲間達にダンジョン 無限ガチャ
[JP] Index New Testament 11-22r
[JP] 9S<ナインエス> 12-13
[JP] 丘ルトロジック
[JP] 銀盤カレイドスコープ
[JP] 目覚めたら最強装備と宇宙船持ちだったので、一戸建て目指して傭兵として自由に生きたい 12
[JP] 現代社会悪役令嬢 2 and after
[JP] ダブルブリッド Drop Blood
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Any tip to exclude chinese results when I search something in japanese?
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>>46601058
When I changed my browser language to Japanese I instantly stopped getting almost all Chinese results, so pretty sure the Accept-Languages header in your request affects the returned results
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>>46601058
Just throwing in some hiragana works for me. I usually use とは.
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>>46592272
>多元宇宙的青春の破れ、無二の君が待つ未来 2
Never thought it would get a T2, since everything is wrapped up in T1. Seeing the synopsis, the author pretty much retconned the ending and added new characters out of the blue.
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>>46604486
is it another of those cases of "award winning one shot commits a funny when serialized"?
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>>46604700
I will have to read this t2 to see by myself, but seems like it yeah
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>>46601010
TMW part 6 is up on nyaa now
just thought some of you would like to know
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>>46604486
Looks like 東西 is getting a lot of work.
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>>46606075
>魔法少女
Picked up
>1400 yen
OK I will wait a bit, I already bought a lot last week.
But yeah, kagejitsu boosted his popularity a lot.
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>>46606075
hey, I read the WN for that a while ago.
Forgot everything though, maybe I should revisit it.
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>>46606075
that title plus the centipedes makes it look like the edgiest shit ever
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Completed 現代社会で乙女ゲームの悪役令嬢をするのはちょっと大変 4. That is one beautiful vol. Finally understood what makes the heroine move towards her fall out of her own volition. This vol also fixed the screenplay for the protag's promised defeat at the end of series, making it work both emotionally and logically.
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>>46608137
V4
>protag gets traumatized after reading america's plan to genocide iraqis using NBC weapons
>thought that she was opposed to it and tried to stop it, but couldn't because she got shutdown politically
V5
>it was actually the protag who willingly proposed the idea of nuking iraq and lobbied for it
Lmao
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>>46608137
due to 乙女 thought you were talking about mobuseka for a sec
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>>46599561
Does anyone know about any ero (Or at the very least, heavy ecchi) light novels with mesugakis?
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>>46606149
Is kagejitsu actually good or just overhyped like MT?
I hate shit normalfags latch onto because it fucks with my shittiness radar due to the occasional time they wank something actually good.
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Anyone here use one of those phone sized ereaders? I've been looking for a decent one but the ones I've seen have bad battery, too much screen lag, or are finnicky with Japanese characters
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>>46612680
unironically feel like they are a scam, never seem to find one that works properly, there's always one dealbreaker issue
it's probably far cheaper to cope with one of those portable monitors with a touch function and just reading on your computer, but at that point i just read on my monitor normally
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>>46612736
Yeah, half scam half underfunded because it's too niche. Sucks because I'm always
looking for any reason to get away from LCDs and my Paperwhite isn't as portable as I'd like it to be
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>>46612599
readers here are biased in favour of it because it runs on autism and people here only rate novels on how autistic or schizophrenic they are.
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>>46612599
as someone who only watched the anime and never touched the LN and am going off the impression the former is better than the latter, it's ok, maybe even borderline good, but not great. maybe if it strokes your autism in the right way you might think better of it. this is similar to how i felt about MT (as someone who read most of it and never touched the anime) but that had more problems and things that annoyed me in big and small ways
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>>46612599
in my own autistic opinion, it's great, but now after i read far more stuff (in japanese) i can't say it's on my top 5, at least top 10 tho
good if you want some dry comedy from how autistic cid is, paradoxically bad if you want something comedy-centric because the plot does take itself seriously
also if you read it in english it's complete garbage, even the fanTL is mid at best, literal MTL with some editing at worst (for vols 5-6)
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There any flintlock fantasy LNs out there?
Remember reading a book 10 years ago about people who got magic powers from eating gunpowder and thought it was the coolest shit in middle school (can't really remember what it was called unfortunately). Though haven't really seen anything since, probably way to niche of a setting (even for gun loving America) to do much with.
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>>46613781
The Conqueror from a Dying Kingdom is set in the knights with muskets pike and shot equivalent kind of era but there's no magic in it at all besides the existence of giant birds so I dunno if it qualifies as flintlock "fantasy".
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>>46614120
flintlock fantasy in a nutshell seems to by anything between 14000s early hand cannon to 1800s Napoleonic wars so pike and shot defiantly fit in that era

Which reminds me I did see this awhile ago, Japanese kid gets reincarnated back in time to late 18th century England ang joins the 95th rifles, so I guess one jap might of been a fan of the old Sharpe series
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>>46614222
4 centuries seems like a bit too big of a timeframe to give out something more specific than "idk some low fantasy with some low tech"
by your definition even tanya qualifies
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>>46612599
Fuck off, MT is good :). Kagejitsu is good, at least entertaining enough to be not called bad. That said, recent vols are a bit of let down and after reading 世界の闇と戦う秘密結社が無いから作った(半ギレ), I started to feel like most of kagejitsu's autism doesn't have much heart put into it.
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>>46614324
I didn't call MT bad but it's definitively grossly over-hyped.
For the amounts of massive "it's literally the best thing evar" shilling it really didn't live up to the hype, especially not after the Orsted rematch the story pretty much devolved into meaningless episodic errands that almost felt like the bad kind of backtracking in a video game, and then there's a big series of fights, and then it just sort of ends.
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>>46614254
Not him but Tanya is not "low tech". It's between WW1 and WW2. Automatic weaponry, aircraft, etc. is all there.
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>>46614358
that's the point, a gap of 400 years post-1500 is basically anything goes
gotta be more narrow than that
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>>46613781
A ton, if you don't mind not having any magic in it and gunpowder warfare being just one of the side elements. For example すうすく deals with damage optimization with lanchester's laws and using to win against great powers as a minor country with highly trained rifle forces, ala, early prussia.
>>46614343
Eh, I personally think MT deserves the hype, including the structureless second half. That said, I too fell irritated when fags who barely read any LNs call it "the greatest thing ever", despite the fact that I mostly agree with them, so it's understandable.
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>>46614376
Not really? I'm not sure what the right term is but anon pretty clearly just wants pre-revolver type, muzzleloaded firearms.
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>>46614404
i feel like this shit's too vague
what do you call that specific time period so we are on the same page?
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>>46614408
Nta, but he is probably referring to early modern warfare which exactly refers to the main style of warfare during the period op suggested
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>>46614413
no what i don't get is what he wants
does he want focus on the relative low flintlock tech? because that's it's own thing
or basically anything goes as long as the aesthetic is covered? because if so then almost anything magitech goes
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warhammer fantasy humans style LN
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>>46614254
Not really, tanya is mostly WWI era in terms of technology, that's at least 100 years after the Napoleonic wars, plus the European medieval era is commonly considered to have lasted from the 500s to 1300-1400s give or take
the most common aspects to be specific seem to be
gunpowder weapons have just arrived but are a far cry from any modern firearm and are mainly used in lines or squares (hence where the flintlock comes from), but are still effective enough to spook the old guard and rewrite how battles are fought, i.e. heavy armor is left behind in favor of colorful coats to be able to be seen easier in heavy gun smoke (and fancy hats if your a noble) and old castles wall are being replaced by star forts.

I suppose you can break it down to further to something like anything between the 1400s-1600s is pure gunpowder fantasy more akin to something like the Hussites where their firearms where just iron tubes on sticks with a hole for a match, and 1600s-1800s is the flintlock era, similar to what you would imagine from the era around the American/French revolutions, the very start of the British empire, and the rise of napoleon
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>>46614454
Isn't that basically just starcraft + gears of war?
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>>46614459
that's warhamer 40k, not warhammer fantasy
warhammer fantasy is like super late/post-medieval, just barely not early modern
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>>46614459
That's 40k
Fantasy is just Holy Roman Empire, except more dysfunctional
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>>46614454
Fuck that give me a Gotrek and Felix style LN
Goblin Slayer came close but GS himself was too much of a wet piece of carboard at times to scratch the same itch
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>>46611616
>世の人間の多くは、きっと何者にも成れない。それを大人といってごまかしているのだからな
REEEEE, STOP BULLYING ME!!
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> 98年に出たとある作品を頂点に、この時期のライトノベルは異能系と呼ばれる能力者バトルの全盛期だった。
which LN is it referring to?
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>>46616164
it's Boogiepop
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>>46612904
>biased in favour of it because it runs on autism and people here only rate novels on how autistic or schizophrenic they are.
There is no better criteria for an LN than the extremity of derangement it's willing to push itself toward. This is the mediums strongest mark, together with hundred pages worth of banter that ultimately leads to nothing.
Encapsulated in the derangement aspect, there must be battles or intrigue.
Battles that kill the entire world. Battles that rope in deities and devils alike. Battles that cheat death and are, in turn, cheated by cheating death. Battles with gimmicks hidden in gimmicks hidden in multifariously multifarious gimmicks and all this, touched by a coup de grâce of such a contrived, out of control 'plan', with intrigue so endlessly encroached in bogs of pathocratical depravity, that it possesses a mobility of its own accord, impossible to evade, impossible to stop.
--Yes, a magnificently calamitous scheme, that rends itself and the world asunder over the course of 20, 30, 40, even 50 volumes and surely, if not, then 1 volume worth its weight in words to a total of 100.
That is the good you see in LNs. Not the only good, naturally, as you have alternatives, romcoms, to fuel the refinement in conjuring a more fastidious, mental image, of the girl you want as your beloved but in this, I can only wish that they, in their innocence, could be whisked off to an otherworld, to an isekai, that the intensity of their passions grow all the more through the intensity of fire and flame.
There is no autism in LNs, there is no schizophrenia, there is no 'words' 'words' 'words'. No. The only thing in LNs, the only reason you read them, the only reason they exist, is to kill opponents, whether that be a witch cult, goblins who raped your sister, a world endangering your guild mates, player killers and player killer killers, made up enemies, Gordenia, Yvestalaz, and many more.
Your statement is errant. I can't be biased towards something running on autism, when everything else, everywhere in sight, is similarly so.
Well, everything except for things written by women and things involving female protagonists I guess.
Shut the fuck up. I can already see what you're typing. Only by the spirit of an ethereally sophistical Japanese man, in all his lives past likewise, blessed by fauna and a twang of madness, raised by denpa and eroge, can one right an LN superseding transcendentalism itself, or give birth to it.
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>>46614454
Already exists
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>>46616728
are boogiepopfags just the MTards of their generation?
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>>46618352
Boogiepopfags are like Evafags, fans of the most important work of their medium in 90s that changed the whole industries, MTfags are more like Haruhifags
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>>46618435
boggiepop is a literal who forgotten by time that neither directly or indirectly inspired anyone however
in fact it could be argued it was so bad that it killed urban fantasy until FSN and umineko kind of brought it back later on with their respective anime adaptations
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>>46618352
Probably. But that anon is also right, I can't think of any other LN that matches the sentence
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>>46618459
>boggiepop is a literal who forgotten by time that neither directly or indirectly inspired anyone however
false, it inspired a lot of people, the most famous being Nisio Isin and Ryohgo Narita, both of them talked about it, shit, Nasu himself talked how he is a huge fan of Kadono in general.
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>>46618435
Haruhi is the more influential one though
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>>46618509
source?
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>>46618459
I dislike boogiepop and boogiefags but saying it's not influential is bullshit. A shitton of authors, nearly every author I read that came onto scene during 2000's and dealt with the supernatural, acknowledged boogiepop's influence on them
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Maybe I'm just too new to LNs but I've never seen anyone be obnoxious about Boogiepop. I barely see anyone even talk about it beyond offhandedly recommending it time to time
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>>46618352
Seconding the eva comparison because it did actually inspire some stuff, on top of it's fans being just as insufferable (yet somehow mostly secondaries, not even half-darie EOPs, they straight up don't read it like uminekofags).
The comparison to MT doesn't make sense because MT is a genetic dead end yet somehow it's fans actually do read it even in it's in english.
I also wanted to compare it to say, actual haruhi, but that would be a bit too much of a different framework for different autistic reasons I don't feel like going into detail today.
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>>46618561
Of course you haven't and have you seen anyone be obnoxious about MT either? Other than the meta posters talking about these supposed obnoxious entities
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>>46618561
Yeah, they rarely appear. But I never saw a boogiefag recommending it without some unnecessary comment about how it's the greatest or how it's different from the other stuff, so...
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>>46618578
>have you seen anyone be obnoxious about MT either
unironically yes, not even that long ago here
same with honzuki
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>>46618605
Yeah, no lol. MTfags do exist and are obnoxious, but at least not in this thread. I have followed every thread in this general for the last two years and I never saw an obnoxious MT or honzukifag other than the quite obvious trolls.
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>>46618603
>some unnecessary comment about how it's the greatest or how it's different from the other stuff, so...
Unironically "insecure EOP's first LN they like" syndrome.
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Does anyone have a download for 孤高のダークエルフ嫁といちゃらぶ妊活みるくライフ?
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>>46618459
>umineko
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Has anybody here read in its enterity Hundred, Asobi ni Iku yo! or Saijaku Muhai no Bahamūto?

Can you resume the plot for me?

The anime looked cool, but they only made 1 season and they are not translated.
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>>46618603
the only comment I ever saw from boogiepop recommenders is that it's old, more people recommend boogiepop phantom anime than boogiepop novels which aren't even fully translated so nobody besides pretentious jops recommends them
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never read boogieslop
never will
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>>46618603
>person thinks something is good or does something differently and likes it
>says so when recommending it
Shock, horror!
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>>46620872
just continue to eat your isekaislop, anon
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>>46620900
will do will do *rolls up sleeves*
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I would have read boogiepop already if it wasn't so damn long. I assume I would probably like though since I like chunni urban fantasy.
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>>46620926
Boogiepop doesn't have plot and almost every novel is a self contained story with only some digree of interconnectedness, and yeah, if you like chuuni shit you will like it for sure, especially later novels and spinoffs, Rasen Walpurgis is fucking bananas.
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>>46620900
always knew boogiepopfags were elitist lmao
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>>46620954
>almost every novel is a self contained story
Didn't know that. I guess that makes it less daunting. I have the tism where when I pick up a series I tend to read it all in one go because I want to see where the plot goes next but it doesn't apply for stuff like that.
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>>46620892
I am a normal human with emotions anon, of course I will get pissed if someone recommends it like this >>46571735
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boogiepopfags are some of the least elitist "popular thing good" readers I ever met though
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>>46622495
I guess? Personally I read that and just think that anon is either bad at recommending things or trolling. It's less obnoxious than the anon who won't stop moaning about honzukifags/MTfags/boogiepopfags/whoever has most recently triggered his schizo fixations.
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>>46622563
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>>46622495
To be fair, not justifying it, but this is an expected kind of culture shock.
In normalfag spaces that's how you recommend stuff because nobody is used to being respectful of anyone.
A reaction like yours to a posturing tourist post like that is pretty much as natural as it gets.
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>>46620452
I can for Bahamut, though I haven't read the final volume. Also pretty sure all of them have been at least partially translated in BT.
>Saijaku Muhai no Bahamūto
Desu, at it's core, it's just a battle harem with mechs like Infinite Stratos, but set in a "medieval" world. The main reason you buy/read it is for the girls and not much else, though in Bahamut's case, they're all (except for the main one, as usual) top-tier, especially the DFC perfection (blessed be Krulcifer).
The plot is plenty straightforward, Ex-royalty got turned into "slave" due to rebellion and now works as a handyman. But he has a hidden side where he's actually this uber-strong secret user of a special mech that—you know the rest. The (main) plot revolves around Lux uncovering the truth behind his empire, dungeons where the mechs are sealed, and quelling rebellion, which culminates in him fighting his "predecessor." The most important thing of all though, is that it ends with a harem end, and he (IIRC) also fugged his sister. It's not chuuni enough for my taste now, but it was fairly decent, probably around at most Taimadou Gakuen, Rokka no Yuusha, and Denyuuden but still far away from the likes of Mondaiji.
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>>46623251
What are your favourite chuuni ln's, anon? Right now I'm reading Regios and I always looking for good shit.
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>>46623251
thank you
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Do you guys actually know Japanese, or do you just pray some fan TLs an interesting looking Light/web Novel?
Personally, I use a mix of my very limited Japanese, some type of AI (Cohere's Command R plus has been doing wonders for me, so far) and Jisho for words and phrases that didn't quite translate right.
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>>46623556
I think a good chunk of people here can comfortably read in japanese. At least there are enough jap readers that I never had issues with discussing stuff that only they would know or understand.
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>>46623556
If that "brave" is a mistranslated 勇者 like it's still 2006 I'm going to kek out loud.
To answer your question I have been able to comfortably read without a dictionary (with the exception of highly technical words) for almost a decade now.
Honestly at this point I can't comprehend anyone that claims to like jp media but still doesn't know japanese yet or is at the bare minimum already learning, the only excuse I would think is passable is only getting into "the animes" as recently as a few months ago and the brick wall of translation cucking not hitting you yet.
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>>46623556
i've never read a ln in english
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>>46623633
Well, the full text is
「まさか勇者様、冗談なのです? あんな雑魚なんかこれからいくらでも戦うことになるのです。さっさと本気で消し去るのです」
But it works for me compared to most other MTLs.
Honestly, Japanese is fucking stupidly hard for me. I still have fuck all idea how anyone's supposed to make sense of Kanji with multiple readings like 空. Sure, context can help, but if someone just randomly said "え?空神だ?” am I supposed to think they're talking about a sky god or good weather?
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>>46623709
Seriously, holy fuck, it's le current year, how the fuck are MTL tools still doing the brave shit?
In what context that is even a correct translation when eiyuu wouldn't be better translated as brave instead at the very least?
>空
First of all stop anki grinding, that shit doesn't help, just learn kanji as words with a custom deck if you really want to kanji.
That one in particular is closer to 2 words that happen to share the same kanji, one is sky/sora that gets turned to kuu- when on words with more than one kanji, the other is empty/kara with the on' reading of "a".
Which is less confusing than you think in context when both are technically the same thing, kind of.
>"え?空神だ?” am I supposed to think they're talking about a sky god or good weather?
Neither, pretty sure "sky god" would be 天神 with the latter being a completely different thing altogether.
I'm like 80% sure it means "void god" and read as kuugami in context.
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>>46623310
>Regios
Aw fuck, nice. I myself fell in love with LNs due to Regios (and Felli), so it felt nice whenever someone is reading it, even if I were to objectively rate it 7/10 at most (you know why), I'll always think of it as 10/10.
>Favourite chuuni LNs
Current? Dendro, that I won't budge, at least for the next 10 years.
Pre-2014? Anything Kamachi (particularly Heavy Object) since I was raised by BT and Js06 (though not Kawakami since his works are more autistic than chuu2), Mondai, Campione!, DxD (despite everything, this is an action series first, and battle harem second), Danmachi (technically not chuuni, but the Mino scene bleeds out to my dream, and that's the first time I've ever felt anything like that, speaking as someone who frequently encountered unusual experiences), and perhaps Shana.
>>46623556
>actually know Japanese
To an extent yeah, I took it as my optional class back in HS, all of us got into N4 (Our teacher used the JLPT test as final exam, we also had a native 24/7) with another one getting N3 since she started earlier. Right now I'm at that strange point of can converse and understand Nipponese but can't decently write and read it due to me not wanting to bother memorizing kanji out of sheer laziness. It's like being an illiterate fuck I suppose.
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>>46623781
being able to understand but being an illiterate fuck is preferable to being an anki grinder that doesn't even know the basics lmao
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>>46623709
most of the issues learning kanji meanings come from trying to wrangle the meanings into english etymological roots
don't lmao, just learn them normally and 空 makes perfect sense
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>>46622700
Are you from bizzaro 4chan?
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>>46623556
I don't think I seriously read a translation of a text-heavy Japanese work since I used a text hooker + MTL to read Sumaga in like 2010.
By now, I navigate Japanese stuff without a problem.
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>>46623556
I've never read anything not in Japanese. Just start seriously learning bro, there's no way that janky setup is actually enjoyable
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The Dendro BD novel is officially in the works to be released as a separate story.
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>>46624750
That sonia's party one or something else? Already read the sonia's, but nice.
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>>46624810
No, it's The Southern Cross, and it's about Shu's adventures in Granvaloa, specifically the battle against Corpse Stronghold, I think.
I heard the novel is a long one at about 550 pages long, so it will probably be split into two releases.
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>>46623556
I've been heavily considering learning Japanese, but I'm not quite sure where to start. That, and the fear of not really understanding it when I get to the learning process
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>>46624868
Oh, even better then
>>46625057
Just dew it
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>>46623556
LNs are probably the worst otaku medium for EOPs. VNs are close but at least you can enjoy the sprites and stuff independently of the language.
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>>46625153
>Just dew it
Is there anything I specifically shouldn't do? I've heard several people say that you should or should not grind anki, for example
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>>46625814
don't fall for the anti Anki meme
people hate it because they lack discipline of just 30 minutes a day for good memorization gains
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>>46625814
As the other anon said, don't fall for the anti-anki meme but don't invest in anki too much either. My personal experience was
1. Learn hiragana and katakana
2. Start grinding basic joyo kanji. I used the wanikani deck some reddit guy ripped from the site
3. Start grinding vocab with sentence decks
4. Started reading yotsubato with the help of a dictionary.
5. Expanded to other manga
6. Finally switched to a LN. Took something like a week to read one vol initially, while referring to the dictionary every other para. But by the time I completed the series I could read a vol a day with barely using the dictionary.

The main thing is these steps were not exclusive. I just grinded through each step until I felt like I got the basics and jumped to the next while still doing the previous ones simultaneously. Don't expect to master a step before proceeding to the next one. Also just stay patient and be consistent until you can start reading simple stuff, even if barely. You will be surprised at how fast you are able to learn the language after that.
it took me an year from starting the kana to being able to read LNs so don't fall for the "japanese is very difficult" meme. Well, native language's langue is similar to japanese so the results may differ.
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>>46624114
You will be surprised how non-shitposty slow boards can be beyond that one general all tourists flock to.
Or in other words, you will be surprised how good discussion can be (even when it gets heated) once normalfags aren't involved.
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>>46623556
been learning since new years eve and i can already read most manga by only looking up specific terms and can read LNs at a not that grueling pace
unironically don't get why people overhype it as too hard, i don't consider myself smart and it was more about the consistent grind than finding some hidden truth about the universe
>>46625057
literally just grab and go, most learning resources are shit, but shit is better than nothing
you can, in theory, learn japanese by first anki grinding all 7 gorillion kanji before even learning particles, it's just not going to be that efficient
what's the most efficient then? something something comprehensible input, i would write my method but someone already did the same 2 posts above mine
most anki decks are a meme however, i removed useless words like the days of the week and counting shit (i did learn the numbers 1-10, 100 and 1k however) because i can just learn it in context, and that alone is like 50 or so wasted entries which is like a week of boring ass anki grind on words i don't give a shit about
you will also have to make your own deck for "otaku media lingo" because i don't think stuff like 魔法 or 倒す are even on N1 vocab despite being fairly common (depending on what you read), and yes you will have to make your own exactly because vocab depends on what you read, for example i'm into a lot of sci-fi so 星間 and similar terms come out a lot, but i also read normal fantasy stuff (including isekai) and in there it's not going to come up that often if at all
meanwhile you don't have to give a shit about any of this vocab if you just want to read romcoms and doramas
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>>46625057
You will start out with poor comprehension then get better and better
You can't really analyze/theorycraft your way into really comprehending a sentence you're not really for, though you can make a reasonable translation of it if you're willing to spend minutes instead of split seconds on a sentence. The only way your native, not analyzed comprehension will improve is by putting in the hours and there are no shortcuts. But it doesn't take nearly as long as people seem to think
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>>>/djt/
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The other thing about just dewing it is that you have to accept that even when not totally lost you're just going to completely miss things and misinterpret things and only have the most surface understanding for quite a long time. You may come back to something you read after five years and have a very different understanding of it from before.
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>>46624750
source?
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>>46628610
but these are real tips and advice, not bucket of crabs shit
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>>46625057
> but I'm not quite sure where to start.
Most people start here https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
Everything you need is explained in detail
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>>46628734
Newest AE.

>○更新予定
>(=ↀωↀ=)<これから七章終盤の書き溜めに加えて
>(=ↀωↀ=)<ガッツリと書籍作業するのでちょっとお休みします
>( ̄(エ) ̄)<でも22巻ってもう作業自体はほぼ終わってなかったクマ
>(=ↀωↀ=)<だから別件
>(=ↀωↀ=)<『加筆修正したら刊行してもいいよ』とOK出たので本腰入れます
>( ̄(エ) ̄)<それはもしや……
>(=ↀωↀ=)<うん
>(=ↀωↀ=)<――南海編『the Southern Cross』、加筆修正書籍化作業開始
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>>46629437
nice, it's not as if he was going to finish the main story any time this decade anyway.
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>>46629487
but will the war namek end this decade?
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>>46629245
kys tatsu spammer, tae kim is shit
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>>46623556
I'm only lightly learning Japanese, were talking 20 mins a day which I know isn't a lot but its low enough that I can pretty much do it every day easy regardless if 'm having a shit day or am busy with irl stuff. I'd say I'm at the point where I can recognize a decent number of words and maybe some very simple sentences.
What would you guys say its the yotsuba equivalate for LNs in the sense that everyone recommends to start with that when your trying to learn Japanese
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>>46635895
>What would you guys say its the yotsuba equivalate for LNs in the sense that everyone recommends to start with that when your trying to learn Japanese
probably kuma kuma bear
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>>46635895
If you just mean "easy to read", then virtually any romcom will do.
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>>46635953
yep
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Anyone remember the Japanese word for the genre which doesn't have a clear protag but a large cast that may or may not be involved directly with the core story but influence the conclusion? I remember it having 多 and 劇 kanji but can't remember the word for my life
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>>46637070
群像劇?
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>>46637070
Stories like that are called "ensemble casts" in English, and I'm not sure what Japanese word you mean, but the one I know is 群像劇.
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>>46637154
>>46637159
ah right, thanks. seems like I misremembered 群 for 多
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>Try to find a neat slave LN on Zlib
>Can't find it
>See a Chinese listing for the exact same LN
>Look up the title in google and find a website that sells Chinese translated novels
>Pick random Novel
>Paste title in Zlib
>Instant match
Well this fucking sucks
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I found out my WN writer is playing スマブラ on his Vチューバ account instead of writing more chapters, what's the proper way to お仕置き him?
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Been a while since I read a long series and it was an enjoyable ride all together. Still have to complain about the antagonists, the same bad guys were there from the beginning to the end and caused problems in every volume, just like a morning cartoon or something. Also wasn't a fan of the whole protagonist becoming a pseudo god which prevented him from getting involved with wordly affairs.
if someone has the epubs for 24 and 25 please share
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>>46642410
>vtubing but also writing
but like
why
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>>46643625
https://mega.nz/file/DRdCzADY#d8tSY5UlOOUmkPKPlNbSKHoPfRK3kJhBTDdGt2dn7xs
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>>46644184
39
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>>46637846
It's depressing how much easier it is to find chinese translated JP stuff, compared to actual JP stuff
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>>46644486
Gaijin sharing groups like the meme way don't have that much stuff in the grand scheme of things and JP sharing groups are decently gatekept.
Chinks don't care and will happily share translated stuff to each other.
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>>46644486
chink tls are still tls and the chink mindset is that stealing from others is fine so there's no point comparing it
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>>46644486
At least LNs are cheap and the industry is still small enough to where every purchase matters so it doesn't feel like a waste spending money. Where it really sucks is manga. On top of the already low interest in RAWs, manga sites seem to get the most attention from Japanese authorities.
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>>46644627
>manga sites seem to get the most attention from Japanese authorities.
yeah, soon they will kill almost everything I'm afraid
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>>46644627
I would have cared about losing manga raws in the past, but these days where I can look back upwards of a decade ago and count the good manga adaptations with both my hands and have fingers left to count, I find it hard to care.
It's especially hard to care about buying manga adaptations when even shit publishers are well within AAA striking range of 5 digits sales minimum.
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>>46644627
>>46644641
>>46644656
feels like a threefold problem
>EOPs don't care because they already moved on to gookshit and/or only care about mainstream shounen manga
>actual JSLs don't care because they can just read the novels, and if they can't find the raws they can buy them because it's not that expensive
>publishers actually persecute manga piracy to the point of taking legal action against leakers
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did anyone buy/share 目覚めたら最強装備と宇宙船持ちだったので、一戸建て目指して傭兵として自由に生きたい 12 yet?
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>>46644689
i remember someone posting the newest volumes but don't remember if v12 was included
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>>46644698
nah it was only up to 11
12 just came out last week
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>>46644666
>publishers actually persecute manga piracy to the point of taking legal action against leakers
this is only possible because they have spare money to squander, other adjacent industries don't bother
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>>46644666
eops don't care and never cared because scanlators have always translated (the popular) stuff using private raw sources, in the past if you asked some of these for raws they would go on about how the they wouldn't let other translation groups "steal" their hard earned raws.
Manga raws only started coming out fast & reliably when the demand for it grew inside Japan with sites like mangamura so it's obvious Japanese authorities will try to tear it down.
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Any recommendations of mecha novels not called FMP, Knight's & Magic and different Gundams?
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>>46645050
oh, and no MuvLuv or GGG spinoff, already read those
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>>46645050
Honestly aside from gundam I don't really know any other mecha focused lns.

A lot of stories do have mechas as a weapon for characters like infinite dendrogram, rebuild world or otome game mob, but I can't really consider them mech focused stories.

If your definition of mech extends to tanks/powerarmor I guess you can include 86 or All you need is kill but it seems like a cop out.

You're probably better off searching for ln spinoffs of famous mech anime like evangelion, or nadesico.
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>>46645050
I'm going to read the Demonbane novels this coming week. In theory, those are good but they require that you've read the VN of course.

>>46645379
86 is very very mecha. Asato goes full on into autismo detail about how the mechs move about and some of the Legion are quite complex. Of course, it's also more-or-less a shoujo mecha if that makes sense so it might not be to everyone's taste.
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>>46645666
>but they require that you've read the VN of course.
Well actually I just remembered that the first 3 cover the VN story, so I guess you're not required to read the VN but obviously I wouldn't recommend that.
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does anyone have 嘘つきみーくんと壊れたまーちゃん with decent quality images?
Each chapter of the epub starts with an image like this but as you can see the version I found on zlib is entirely unreadable. I'm used to epubs having low res images but the problem is more serious when the first lines of each chapter are lost on it.
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>>46646065
>566x404
why would anyone do this
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>>46645666
>>46645673
I'm also interested in reading the novels, but I suppose it's recommended to read Kishin Hishou Demonbane first, right? I've had it in my backlog longer than I should've because of the gameplay
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>>46649505
Other way around mostly likely. If we go by release order, books 4 and 5 came out before Kishin. Actually 4 is about a character that is prominently featured in Kishin. I probably should have read at least that one before playing the second game but oh well.
>because of the gameplay
It's wonky, but luckily it's easy. The trick is to spam double swords on every single boss except the final one. Use double guns. The only one who is even mildly challenging is Augustus.
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>>46649614
I didn't even think to check the release order, but thanks man, now I know what to read next. I'll also jot down that advice in case I feel like reading Kishin after finishing book 5
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>>46623556
I tried to learn Japanese but after re-evaluating my priorities, I put it on hold. With how things are going, I'll probably give up for good, though.
Why can't time chambers be real?
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So have they just stopped recording the Mushoku Tensei audiobooks? The latest one was released in 2017
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>>46652063
yes, unfortunately
just like they stopped recording fairy tail chronicle which ill never forgive them for
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>>46650257
seems like a retarded move when just 10 minutes of studying a day is enough, it may take you 2-3 years to be fluent-ish enough to read a LN but it will happen
if you have the time to shitpost on 4chan you have time to study, basically
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>see a random volume of some psuedo-harem fantasy LN in the この商品を買った人 section
>the cover girl's design is really hot/interesting
>check volume 1's cover
>she's not main girl
Such is life
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Anyone got digital versions of mishima's novels in jp? Just want to check how difficult it is compared to usual LN shit I read.
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ゴルダナ帝国衰亡記 really interesting this week as always.
Wish it would update faster. I know I'm being really entitled since the author updates weekly at a regular pace, but damn.
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>>46655608
if you mean evil lord i think it's up to date in the tmw torrent
otome mob is almost up to date on dlraw too
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Is there an industry/marketing reason why so many fantasy LN's have either zero adversity or all adversity removed by the end of book 1? Or is it just because they're sourced from bad webnovels?
I'm kinda fascinated by how little peril there is even when the book isn't slice of life.
>>46655608
some of them are on anna's archive
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>>46660056
this is the worst kind of post
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>>46660063
Yeah it's always hard for you to have anything to say when someone wants to actually discuss the literature instead of giving you a chance to brag about your anki cards or whatever for the 5th time in the thread
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>>46660095
There's no good discussion to be had when the first post is "I really fucking hate [thing]. Why does [thing] suck so much?"
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>>46660095
you're not discussing anything tho you're just making a blanket statement about an entire genre that couldn't be further from the truth
the vast, vast majority of fantasy lns have some kind of adversity, even the sol ones
even fucking konosuba has it which you'd know if you had actually read it
i have read over 60 series and the only examples that kind of fit the bill i can think of are fucking kuma kuma bear and nonbiri nouka
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>>46660056
Upvoted and glided and used as material for a jewtube video.
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This talk reminded me of how the comments went apeshit during the start of the capital attack arc in the Dendro WN, with people talking about how much adversity is too much.
Not sure why I even have this memory, but thinking about it now, you'd think Dendro readers would welcome adversity. Overcoming the odds is the name of the game here.
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>>46660264
due to the reshuffling of some stuff in the LN, in the original WN pacing it was less adversity and more just sufferslop porn
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>>46660056
Assuming the premise is true then if the book gets cancelled at the end of V1 then at least there was at least an ending of sorts that resolved the immediate conflict.
I don't think it's true though. Or at least it hasn't occurred often enough for it to stand out to me.
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>>46660056
>all adversity removed by the end of book 1
I have literally never read a fantasy LN that could be described this way
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>>46646065
Here you are, I got these from AB
https://mega.nz/file/wxhTCTTK#nZXMPKFmPT4Bqd5UI2n9x9zRzLutyf2N8t4n2zASO3U
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>>46660330
Agreed. Usually volume 1, especially if it's isekai, is 'woah what am I doing here what's going on' + some short-term plot thread/conflict and then he figures out what his main problem he's going to have to deal with is going to be at the end to make you want to read volume 2
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>>46661866
Thanks so much anon. Reading vol 2 now, it'll be nice not having to skip lines anymore.
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>>46660056
what's eye rolling about posts like these is that it's always the exact same talk
>poster A makes blanket statement
>poster B asks for examples
>assuming poster A doesn't run away or double down on the generalizations, they post either "take that" examples intended to spin the strawman (whoreharu in this case)
>or they post literal meme shit they consoom from mangadex, most of which don't even have a novel version
>poster B points out what i just did
>poster A starts doing reverse mental gymnastics by claiming poster B is moving the goalposts or claiming x doesn't count (it really doesn't, in the same way i can't claim jewtube shitposts prove all western cartoons/film are shit)
>assuming poster A doesn't do that, they finally start posting real media like say, arifureta
>poster B starts pointing out MCs in those do in fact face adversity
>poster A starts complaining it's not sufferingslop so it's bad writing, and this part will continue with increasingly more absurd examples of sufferslop
>given enough time the mask of poster A will slip and you will find out they are either just looking for reasons to shit on japanese media because it's japanese, or they are parroting shit they treat as fact due to hearing it so often from their peers, or both
>continue pressing poster A and you will find out this misconception comes from speedreading too much manga to the point everything starts to feel like a blur to poster A, which is a pretty big problem when adaptations are already inherently dumbed down
>triple down on the conversation by asking for specific "trope" examples and eventually poster A will confess a lot of that mental paste doesn't even come from japanese manga but from gookshit
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>>46667211
Nah what's actually happening is that poster B is the same person every time with a very identifiable writing style who it isn't worth engaging with.
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>>46667307
i legitimately doubt this hypothetical poster B is the exact same guy across all 4chin boards, the entirety of reddit and half of EOP twitter and is constantly samefagging with himself circlejerking about it
while i don't doubt there's people doing that shit, it can't be all of them, they just share the same mentality and go down the same pipeline
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>>46665959
No problem bro
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>>46667211
>looking for reasons to shit on japanese media because it's japane
stopped reading here
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>>46667956
It's not even uncommon.
Seeing the evolved version is even funnier, I have seen people legitimately and passionately argue Souls games are WRPGs when they are JRPGs simply because their mental prejudice of "Japan = Bad and weeby" is so ingrained in their brains.
It even happened with LNs back in the day with people arguing overlord was akshually just western literature.
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>>46667211
>or they post literal meme shit they consoom from mangadex, most of which don't even have a novel version
I know this is most likely the weekly venting session, just this time not focused on translations for whatever reason, but I still want to interject with some real discussion.
I do find it really interesting how the vast majority of "DUDE HAREMS/ISEKAI LMAO" not only make comprehension mistakes of basic aspects (which results on things like the MC somehow dying yet "reincarnating" with their current body as if it was a summon) but most importantly, tend to be either manga originals or adapted straight to manga from a WN, usually the former.
And I do find it interesting, because requiring to bypass the LN editorial process when LNs already have almost no barrier of entry provides the context with quite the implying implications.
>Name_3.jpg
All right, sure, I have used this argument myself sometimes so may as well own up to it.
>転生コロシアム~最弱スキルで最強の女たちを攻略して奴隷ハーレム作ります~
>異世界で配信活動をしたら大量のヤンデレ信者を生み出してしまった件
>異世界サムライ
And who can forget the legendary classic.
>異世界転生者殺し -チートスレイヤー
I'm not calling these inherently bad, and I'm not saying this phenomenon is exclusive to manga originals however the "DUDE ISEKAI LMAO" phenomenon (what I can only call postmodern writing revolving around the vague idea of "isekai tropes") does seem to more commonly and more strongly happen in manga originals and adaptations with no LN.
And ">implying" indeed, these outnumber the amount of (translated and up to date) LN-to-manga adaptations even if you filter out all the chinese and korean stuff, so these are the most likely to get seen by people just randomly and passively consoom whatever they find on their manga aggregator.
Therefore the far more likely source of examples for the kind of person that just speedreads a bunch of manga, hears about this "narou" thing, then starts complaining about it.
Who hasn't heard the complaints of all LNs being just something buzzword wish-fulfillment something something about a NEET that gets truck'd and gets the god given mission to beat a demon lord then going back to earth? But those saying this never really mention any examples, at most you see "close enough" examples that aren't even close because this postmodernism trend only assumes those stories exist, but are their own thing entirely.
It's legitimately a bizarre yet intriguing phenomenon that it's as hard to explain as it is interesting, especially if you aren't a JOP LN reader and haven't already read non-postmodern stories (even if they are comedy ones like say, evil lord or kagejitsu) to see what the non-postmodern side of this coin looks like, doubly so when translations tend to carry this flippant tone into series that aren't meant to be such.
This entire thing it's like manga readers collectively managed to gaslight themselves, and I don't blame you if this just sounds like complete schizobabble to you (frankly it is), but when you do notice, you REALLY do notice.
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>>46668097
most people critizing LNs are perfectly fine with other Japanese media. Even in Japanese sns it's common to see people looking down on anime from ラノベ or なろう系 sources for the same reasons posters in 4chin do.
Me I enjoy reading LNs but I'm not getting offended every time someone points out what they dislike about LNs, it's a large medium and it can be troublesome finding something that caters to your tastes, sometimes you drop multiple series on the first volume on a row before finding one that makes you want to read to the last volume.
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>>46668449
Most of those "people" just hang around shounen like wan piss and Ghibli/makoto shinkai stuff, can you really use their taste as a measure for anything when they are the kind of person still keeping manga like kanokari away from the axe?
Doesn't help なろう系 is a buzzword almost as poorly defined as "(native) isekai" to the point the only unifying concept is "the MC isn't weak as fuck" which would only send this discussion back into the first step of the loop.
Especially once you really dive into the granularity of it, "it's from narou" devolves into "it's similar to that" and "it FEELS like it", and others like "MC has a harem" devolve into "MC has a lot of orbiters" and eventually "female characters exist" once examples of "naroukei" get posted that don't have any real love interests at all.
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>>46668502
>Doesn't help なろう系 is a buzzword almost as poorly defined as "(native) isekai" to the point the only unifying concept is "the MC isn't weak as fuck" which would only send this discussion back into the first step of the loop.
lol
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>>46668523
A slow and torturous death to that nigger Jim Breen
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>>46668523
Is that somehow supposed to be a counter-argument when "wish-fulfillment" and "mary sue" when it comes to japanese media is an even more meaningless insult than "faggot" would be on 4chan? Because at some point it's hard to ignore the blatant disregard for effort a lot of MCs apply in non-postmodern stories like say, arifureta for example.
Imagine I was new to not just the medium, but japanese media in general, how can you even define this to me without basically saying "it's bad because it just is ok?" with a lot of extra thesaurus steps?
I think making up random terms like I don't know, kingpoid for example, would somehow be less poorly defined.
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you will never be japanese, you don't have to go out of your way to interpret everything as an attack on japan
just like what you like and stick to 2ch or matome blogs or something if you hate reading westoid posts
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>>46668570
actual schizo post
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It just really sucks that like 99% of non-Japanese "fans" hate like 99% of everything besides 2 or 3 mainstream battle shounen they've decided to base their personalities on
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>>46668523
it is poorly defined as fuck, same with other buzzwords like native isekai and to a lesser extent battle harem
people use it far too often to mean "thing i don't like, so it sucks" and look intellectual because they would look stupid saying it outright
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>>46668608
native isekai has never been more than a troll term to make strawberries like you have aneurysms
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>>46668604
>besides 2 or 3 mainstream battle shounen they've decided to base their personalities on
These days feels like that got even narrower to just JJK now.
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>>46668657
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>>46668608
>>46668657
>native isekai
people have been misusing this buzzword lately
some shitposter from the isekai general started using it to discuss non-isekai + it was funny and pissed off a bunch of people. it really just means a different world (from ours) but "native" to the MC. it has nothing to do with fantasy or isekai "tropes"
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I refer to things as naroushit the same way as I refer to shonenshit and school battleharem shit. It's not clearly defined, we're not in a bloody court of law, it's not being used to mean "thing BAD", it's just an easy shorthand that encompasses enough in broad strokes that people know what I'm talking about. If you choose to interpret them as automatically meaning "thing BAD" then that's your problem.
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I blame western anituber...
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>>46668679
one thing is rando shitpost offhand shorthands to mean x y z and another is unironically trying to use it as a legitimate academic term tho
>>46668683
this but unironically
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>>46668683
The only time I've ever watched an anituber in my life was the anime man's live translated let's play of sachiko's birthday 2u. Simply referencing their existence at all whether in a positive or a negative manner is grounds for me to take none of what you say seriously.
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>>46668679
>If you choose to interpret them as automatically meaning "thing BAD" then that's your problem.
I would really like to hear your explanation as to why this >>46668523 doesn't mean "thing BAD".
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>>46668699
don't forget how it gets used to push the meme of "LITERALLY all of japan hates LNs and agrees that LNs BAD" lmfao
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>>46668699
Because wish fulfilment isn't inherently bad unless you're an anita sarkeensian tier kool aid guzzler.
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>>46668719
now this is peak gaslighting
i know what's next
>we all agree it's trash but no problem in having a guilty pleasure unless you're [person i think you disagree with]
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>>46668719
not him but I have quite literally never seen "wish-fulfillment" used positively (or not negatively) when describing whatever media
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>>46668725
I didn't say that, I said it wasnt bad. If you choose to read it that way then, again, that's your problem.
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>>46668725
The self-hating brainwashed got called out and failed, he has to backpedal now, please understand.
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>>46668745
Anon you don't need to be so desperate to strawman and samefag just to save face. This is an anonymous imageboard with no post IDs. At any time you like you can be reborn as an entirely new anonymous with no post history. Unless you happen to have a distinctively schizophrenic posting style and obsession.
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>>46668719
>>46668740
I hate to jump on this utterly inane discussion, but "wish fulfillment" is a word/phrase that has a negative connotation in this context. There's more to language than the literal definition of the word.
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Anyone got space mercenray 12? Also what's the japanese abbreviation for this series?
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>>46668745
if this >>46668725 was your automatic fantasy headcanon of what other people think then you might be the actual self-hating brainwashed
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>>46668755
Why should I care what third wave feminist landwhales and their emasculated allies think of wish fulfillment?
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>>46668766
I have no idea why you think feminists invented that term. It's also worth nothing the screenshot says "Mary Sue novel" which is another negative term.
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>>46668776
People like Mary Sues, that's why SAO is a titan of the industry.
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>>46668782
see >>46668725
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/a/ is leaking
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>>46668776
That's true, Mary Sue is usually more derogatory. I guess my point is that I don't really care how normalfags use words or else I wouldn't even be able to call them fags. If I'm calling something naroushit on 4chins I don't expect someone to take it as an attack on Japan unless they spend way too much time among people who do, in which case they need to go back.
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>>46668789
see
>>46668758
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>>46668801
>i don't care about how people use words, except when they disagree with me
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>>46668813
Yes, I don't care that normalfags disagree with how anons here use words. You're starting to learn.
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Any recommendations for novels that pull an Alderamin? I feel like torturing myself.
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>>46669704
>I feel like torturing myself.
r u ok bro
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Recommend me something with lots of discussions about boobs and with boob comparisons.
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>>46669704
銀河英雄伝説
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You now remember DaL exists.
You're welcome.
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>>46673510
im listening to the audiobooks rn so yeah
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>>46673510
It's up to like what, 5 seasons? How could anyone forget?
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>>46674879
Unfortunately nobody can forget the utter disaster that was season 3.
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>>46673510
>now
Kadokawa has been shoving it in my face past these several months whenever I open up jewtube
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any jp site where i can buy bitcash gift cards?(i cant register on seagm and i dont wanna use playasia(shitty conversion))
wanna buy some ero-linnies, but they dont accept my credit card....
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>>46675564
from what site?
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>>46675643
dlsite
>just use dl-pay
I would like to avoid using my PayPal or Amazon
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>>46675683
dlpay also accepts credit card so use that
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>>46675564
someone dumped like 200+ smut epubs from fanza on the tmw discord last week so probably check if you can find what you want there first
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>>46668502
Factos basados. I don't even like gatekeeping (AT ALL), but the term tourists exists for a reason. Most modern otaku just watch anime for flashy images and tropes like muh hard work and muh redemption arcs, they fucking hate the place where these stories come from and who make them, actual inhuman consumerists.
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>>46675907
>tmw discord
the fuck does this even mean
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>>46676128
The moe way.
Literal xedditor meme group but at least they share raws.
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>>46676074
take your meds schizo
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>>46676169
>anyone i disagree with is a schizo
lol
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>>46668502
>>46676074
Spend any non-negligible amount of time around normalfags (even if just for observational purposes) and you will quickly realize their habit of pretending literally all Japanese media is slop and a guilty pleasure with zero depth, and if you find depth the curtains were blue, is largely a coping mechanism.
They really, and I do mean REALLY, desperately cling to not wanting to enjoy that media unironically, because admitting to it would be getting slapped by a "told you so" if they enjoy it after years (if not decades) of ridiculing said media.
It's an odd place to be in where they simultaneously want to enjoy otaku media, but also really want to be above "the weebs" in their personal moral and social totem pole.
In other words they are at war with their own ego, and losing.
The truly sad part is this self-hating cope can end up trickling down to people that otherwise by all means have all the rights to call themselves hardcore otaku if they feel like it, down to some that already can fluently read Japanese, and have been able to for years.
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>>46676074
>modern otaku
There's no such thing existing.
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Did you really need to make an entire samefag chain to spam your ironic weebs thesis just from this single post >>46668449?
What does this have to do with ranobe?
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>>46676403
>posters disagree with your original point
>instantly assume is a samefag
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>>46676403
incase you didn't already notice there was a schizo from /v/ who comes here just to post culture war garbage instead of talk about light novels, just filter it and move on
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>>46676440
pretty sure that was obvious since the original post that started the entire thing >>46660056
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>>46676436
Combining the fact that the posts in question were not having an actual conversation but just circlejerking the exact same points on a complete tangent from the original post, with the fact that barely a handful of people on this back alley 2hu containment board actually care enough to post about ironic weeaboos and "anti-Japanese" sentiment instead of just ignoring them like the vast majority, the likelihood that there is more than one person involved in this miserable fellatiouroboros is so vanishingly small as to be irrelevant.
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>>46676504
you sound upset nobody is circlejerking alongside your original bait post and are projecting big time
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>>46676440
I will never understand the "Anime is trash and so am I" mentality, it looks so ass backwards to me.
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>>46676518
You just sound called out and are now throwing random buzzwords at the wall to drown out it out.
I don't care to make the thread any worse either, so this is my last response.
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Can someone rip Ori of the Dragon Chain LN4 / 龍鎖のオリIV-心の中の“こころ”-【特典SS付】【シーモア限定特典付き】EPUB ?
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/1101290357/vol/4/
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>>46676540
Why?
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>>46676169
I pressed a r/animecirclejerk post once. First comment was a dude saying going (not even paraphrasing):
>"Made in Abyss is great, BUT WHY PEDO STUFF WHY FUCK YOU AUTHOR PIECE OF SHIT"
Also look at the crowd who'd love to completely butcher all themes from Mushoku Tensei so they'd like it more, these fuckers would tear apart something other people love just so they get 4+ hours of enjoyment (if they don't watch it at 1.5x speed lol).
Cope all you want, these people are real.
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>>46676926
i somehow remember this being a manga original, i even remember the author taking a hiatus once
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>>46681724
so people really watch sped up anime? thought it was just a meme
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>>46681724
Perhaps you ought to have remained there.
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>>46682879
>censorship is fine bro
lmao
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>>46682079
Worse. There are people who only watch dub.
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>>46683079
assuming a normalfag POV, that's somewhat understandable, especially if they are EOPS, still a shit practice but at least one i can understand the logic of
watching anything sped up is like, why? why bother watching at all at that point? basically all audio will be fucked and the pacing will be just as fucked
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>>46682924
>deflecting
From Reddit you came and to Reddit you must return.
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>>46682076
the manga ended in light novel 1
https://www.mgeko.com/manga/ori-of-the-dragon-chain-heart-in-the-mind/
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Read anything interesting recently?
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>>46685380
liked ブロークン 落陽騎士は偽り姫に凱旋を捧ぐ, the lack of hte second books sucks though
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Wanna buy 信者ゼロ12 but I waited 10 months for it and just thinking about waiting another 10 months for 13 makes me not want to buy it after all
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any saikyou uchuusen vol. 12 drops yet?
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>>46685380
speaking of saikyou uchuusen was reading the newest chapters religiously for one reason and one reason only and it finally fucking happened, pic related. honestly it was a letdown though the previous girls scene was cuter. gonna drop it till enough chapters come out to binge though, not sure what to read next since i can't find any LN to scratch that harem itch so i'll probably just do something else
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>yen press licensed side of fire
interesting, I guess the main series must be doing well for them despite the anime being a pig's breakfast.
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>>46688321
Did the great stallening finally end? Because basically nothing gets translated anymore, be it official or fan TL.
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>>46688321
That spin off was honestly really nice. It made me feel a lot more for the Godfrey crew than main series did. I hope the author can come up with some more stories about their adventures.
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How much time does it takes for new releases to be shared? I'm asking because I can't find volumes 34-37 of Re:ゼロ, which seems weird since to my understanding it's a really popular LN and some of these volumes have been out for months. I thought that as soon as they were put for sale people bought and shared them. Now, I know for a fact that some people (translators) have these volumes since I've seen them use SOME of the content that is inside, so... Am I not looking hard enough? Or perhaps the people that is using the content bought these volumes and that is why they have access to them?
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well i just bought 信者ゼロ 12 and haven't shared it so there's that
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>>46687992
Happening at all is better than never, no matter how disappointing it is.
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>>46689330
I've never bought LNs, I assume they come with a DRM so that sharing them is not that easy peasy, yes?
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>>46689472
anything that isn't bookwalker is as easy as just open an epub editor and saving it without drm
even bookwalker itself is relatively easily bypassed by doing digital scans (screenshots) on fullscreen mode, it's just tedious
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>>46689488
Well I guess that explains the delay, it still kinda makes me anxious that there may be an underground site/group that has what I want but I guess that if it's not on Nyaa it probably won't be anywhere? I just recently decided to start consuming my LNs raw so it's kind of a shock the speed difference in releases, where as in translated stuff it seems so be shared really fast.
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>>46689548
the meme way exists but they do upload their shit to nyaa, even if they take half a year for a batch
the actual speed of pirated LNs raw varies from "uploaded on release day" to "good luck finding it at all", and it's not even a matter of popularity either, you will just as often find literal who shit perfectly up to date as you are to not find a single volume of something pretty popular
translated stuff literally gets piracy botted iirc and only from like 2 publishers at this point so there's that, raws come from 10+ publishers depending on the monthly wave
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>>46688321
Sasuga YP. Their licenses are nice as always. Don't know why they're not taking a crack at Salad Bowl yet. Maybe JNC will hog this one.
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>>46688321
will they even release it within the year this time?
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>>46690063
Naturally!
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>>46690117
bruhdder moment
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>>46690063
yen have been on a fairly steady 4 monthly pace with nanatsuma, idk. stuff doesn't usually come out from them until 8 months to 1 year after first reveal anyway because of print distributor cockblocks
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>>46688776
I get why they don't want to distract from the main crew but we desperately needed more characterization of Leoncino than "has a dong to rival the Saturn V"
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>>46690421
For me, reflecting back on all the stuff with Ophelia in volumes 2 and 3 hit way harder after Side of Fire. I guess it wouldn't work with the way the series is structured but it would have nice to have the proper full Godfrey origin story beforehand. Also got to love that Tim is technically a school shooter.
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Any japanese list management sites that have anime, manga and LN listings all in one place?
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>>46691174
lol
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>>46691192
Why :(
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>>46691174
A custom made excel sheet maybe.
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>>46691462
I already do that but list sites are just more convenient, especially when I am looking for prequel works or works by same staff. It's less about keeping the track of what I have read than about what I have not read yet for which self made lists are nearly useless
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>>46691174
anilist
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>>46691702
>japanese
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>>46691499
For all you just mentioned I use a combination of English Wikipedia, MangaUpdates and AnimeNewsNetwork. Particularly good if you don't like seeing community scores.
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>>46691758
>>46691767
Nvm lol. I mean, I guess the Japanese Wikipedia?
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>>46691758
you can set anilist to use japanese titles
it's the best you'll get
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>>46693251
That's what I have been doing till now and that's what I am trying to move away from...
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>>46693309
why
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>>46693472
I don't want to look at retarded opinions and striaght up wrong summaries even if its just a glance. I already ruleblocked all those stuff on pc, but can't on mobile. Also it doesn't contain entries for some of the obscure stuff and I don't have patience to create entries for them myself.
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I'm still sad lndb died
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Are the danmachi bd extras like Ryuu's IF available anywhere?
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>>46618636
It's literally just the "MTard" schizo on vacation here from /a/ everytime. he doesn't even try to change it up here. i dip back in here after a month and it's the same bait all over again.
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Anybody else feel like a fucking moron when a plot twist happens that's really fucking obvious in hindsight but you miss it? It happened to me just now.
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>>46700267
Doesn't that just mean you got the full intended experience of the author? You should be proud to have had an experience that will never be repeated.
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>>46700267
Which novel?
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>>46700267
doesn't that mean the plot twist worked?
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>instead of updating the WN, author is currently messing around trying to install Fallout 4 mods which apparently involves patching Japanese script into the English version because F4SE doesn't work otherwise
just play NV instead brother
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>unironically playing leddit vegas
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>>46701041
get thee gone to /v/
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>>46700338
Demonbane 機神胎動. The twist I'm talking about here is that ニアーラ is actually Nyarlathotep. Really fucking obvious given the her fake name is a shortened version of Nyarlathotep just like Nya was in the game.
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>>46703758
kino
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I'm not much of a gamer, do people actually use "cheat skill" the way they do "broken" or "OP" in English or is that just a clueless translation that everyone went along with?
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>>46707524
I watch Japanese gaming content on Youtube and the like and I'm pretty sure I hear チート used that way fairly regularly.
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>>46707573
I just realized I worded that really poorly. I mean to say that I've never seen anyone in English use "cheat skill" to mean something that's broken or overpowered and was asking if チートスキル -> Cheat Skill is a lazy/wrong translation.
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>>46707586
also vouching for it being a bad translation, likely due to MTL
don't play on jp stuff myself but i have seen a lot of chooba gaming content, and there it's pretty much "broken/op/T0"
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>>46707586
It's not really wrong per se. More like a correct translation of improper/wrong use of words. It's like a shitposter's N*tive isekai, or the term "isekai" in general which is now used for things like Tensei, etc. Nipponese equivalent of Burgerland's broken/OP (in LN at least, I don't really like watching gaymers) should be t(s)uee, which itself is the bastardization of tsuyoi, that's why you can see the tags Ore-tueee on narou. Actual JSLs or JOPs can probably explain it better than me.
>>46700267
That's great though. Muramasa's twist on its original "kill the hated and beloved"-shit was one of the best things I've read in a VN, even if I could've foreseen it miles away if I hadn't been distracted by Chachamaru's ass. For LNs, Dendro does that pretty much daily with its Ult reveals, they're all simple but you must have a divine reading comprehension to actually understand their intricacies, it's like you suddenly have the character's autobiography in your mind.
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>>46703758
>Demonbane 機神胎動
So I just took to time to finish this up and I'll simply say that it was pretty metal. I wish I read this years ago. You're definitely supposed to read this before Kishin Hishou. It explains a lot. Although there's several things that seemingly contradict the game, so I'm a bit confused. Maybe it gets explained later. Anyways, the next one in the series, 軍神強襲, also seems to be best read before Kishin Hishou (which I clearly should replay at this point given my fuzzy memory) so I'll finish it up in a day or two.
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>>46707586
It's wasei eigo that isn't too far off the mark in actual meaning even if people didn't use the term this way, so it gets the point across well enough.
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>>46708033
It's a pretty big loss of nuance all things considered however.
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>>46707586
Yes, it means broken/OP. Not a wrong translation but definitely a wrong "localization", probably due to the fact that the early fantls of the genre were mostly done and read by ESLs. While being on the topic, I wonder how people are translating 人権/人権スキル.
>>46707826
>Nipponese equivalent of Burgerland's broken/OP (in LN at least, I don't really like watching gaymers) should be t(s)uee...
Anon...
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>>46708207
>Not a wrong translation but definitely a wrong "localization"
not even being facetious, and don't really want to start shit (not like it matters because shit's at bump limit anyway) but what is the difference?
unironically not trying to start shit, just actually curious, because it sounds like the same thing to me
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>>46708491
>but what is the difference?
Depends on the context, but both have a different connotation/implication. "Broken/OP" is rather neutral if we're talking about game elements, but "Cheat" has a definite negative undertone, even if in essence they're both talking about exploits.
It's like, say, using the Ghillie Mantle in Monster Hunter to avoid detection right after attacking and downright game editing the game registry so that the enemy won't react to you at all and to get unlimited I-frames. The former is just bad game design (with an implied modicum of actual player skill), while the latter is just a downright faggy move.
>>46708207
>Anon...
Fuck, please ignore what I wrote, haven't slept for like 3 days.
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>>46709008
i meant what's the difference between a bad translation and a bad localization because both look identical to me
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>>46709038
just google kruschev's "we will bury you", gretha thunberg's "politicians should be put against the wall" and xi jinping's "heads bashed bloody" for examples of public figures having their words translated literally correctly in a way that has wholly different connotations in english and in ways that are entirely unhelpful to understanding their intended muamce
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>>46709336
Greta Thunberg was actually speaking in english, she was the one who did her own shitty literal translation in her head. Kruschev's is a valid example though.
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>>46709038
NTA but what comes to my mind is "ビッチ."
Many translators translate that into "bitch," and it generally works because it fulfills the role of "a bad word used to refer to women the speaker finds disagreeable," making it a decent translation, but for the Japanese, the meaning of "ビッチ" is closer to the English "slut," and a translator trying to preserve this nuance for the English-speaking audience(i.e. localize it) would translate it into that instead.
Using "bitch" and losing that nuance is what I think would be a good(or at least serviceable) translation, but a bad localization.
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>>46709504
Pretty sure getting terminology wrong is straight up a bad translation.
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>>46709504
Anon... open a dictionary and see the definitions for bitch. It is a completely correct translation except for the fact that mainstream english changed from the time japanese adopted this word.
Actually makes for an appropriate "correct translation, wrong localisation" example, though in a different way than your original explanation.
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>>46709571
>It is a completely correct translation except for the fact that mainstream english changed from the time japanese adopted this word.
That just tells me that it used to be the right translation, but isn't anymore.
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>>46709641
thought english degrading was just a meme
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"Gay" no longer meaning "happy."
The Anglosphere has fallen.
Billions must do their reps.
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>>46709641
Why is it not a correct translation anymore when the fucking word still exists and was used in novels frequently till 1970-80's which is how I came to learn it? Anyway, that's why I differentiated between translation and localisation/interpretation. It is a correct translation because the word in its relevant form still exists for the well-read but a bad localisation for not accounting the fact that modern angloids refuse to read anything from the last century.
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>>46709745
>the fact that modern angloids refuse to read anything from the last century.
Feel like this is pretty paradoxical once accounting for the fact they keep parroting the "read a real book" thing.
You would think this means they in fact, do.
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