what's the best lube I can get on amazon?

What toy do I get to satisfy my kissing fetish?

>>46669515
no such thing

>>46669521
Then what do I do? Hookers don't want to kiss (an ugly nerd like me).

>>46669552
get a gf is the only option

>>46669515
A doll with a hinged jaw and a soft silicone head is your best option but even then other anon kinda right
I guess you could also get a blowjob ona thats sculpted like lips if you're on a budget but idk feels weird to kiss that

>>46669515
torso with head
>>46669558
no such thing

even if you get an expensive doll ur still kissing cold silicone and its a huge pain to clean those mouths out

also if you have an actual kissing fetish I guarantee you the girl breathing and fighting back are the major components of that so a doll isn't gonna do it
but it sounds like you haven't actually kissed a girl before

>>46669398
probably j-lube if you go through the hassle of finding the optimal mix for your needs

>>46669597
>but it sounds like you haven't actually kissed a girl before
Correct.

>>46669582
>I guess you could also get a blowjob ona thats sculpted like lips if you're on a budget but idk feels weird to kiss that
I kissed mouth of truth before. It was okay but TPE doesn't taste great. Maybe I can find a way to improve the experience.

>>46669640
You could put some flavored lube around the lips or use flavored lip balm, might not be the healthiest thing for the tpe though

>>46669640
lips dont taste like anything either, kissing was a major dissapoinment for me

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>>46669894
But what about tongue and saliva?
The saliva of a cute Japanese girl tastes delicious in my mind.

>>46669894
flavored lip gloss, anon
but that only increases the experience from a 1/10 to a 2/10

>>46670202
i should add that is for soft silicone, and i wouldn't bother with tpe

dont kiss tpe it will probably give you cancer
silicone is probably fine because its much more sterile and inert but theres always the possibility that chink silicone mixes have weird petrochemical additives that will give you cancer anyway

>>46670389
everything can give you cancer, isnt it basically random

>>46670202
i was talking about real girl lips, i guess it is unheard of itt wwwww
>>46669935
i think saliva tasted a bit like the wine we were drinking

How did your ona career progress? Did you go from a stroker to a hip to a torso to a doll? Which upgrade was the most significant? Which was the least?

Anyone ever had an onahole become porous to the point of no longer being a sealed system? I don’t know how else to describe this, but I have a hole that when I coom inside it, the coom passes through the closed “womb” area. For reference, it didn’t used to do this. Should I trash it?

Are there any onaholes with a hard outer case?
I'm used to using fleshlights which comes with the plastic casing.

>>46672084
Knockoff ona -> knockoff hip -> avatar fleshlight -> tenga flip -> knockoff full sized tpe doll -> knock off electric stroker -> meiki plush evo + venus soft + lilith hard -> currently waiting on a mini silicone doll, a mini tpe doll and various different onas (moving and had some spare $ so decided to go full degen)
Worst upgrade was the hip, cumbersome to use, a pain to clean and not very visually stimulating. Shoutouts to the knockoff tpe doll, in terms of $ that was my worst purchase. Think it lasted like 4 months before the spine snapped. But it did teach me I'm a dollfag but I need lighter dolls to get full enjoyment out of them.
Best upgrade was the meiki plush, I've had it for like 3 years now. light enough to easily handle but heavy enough to not slip off my dick if I go hands free. Being able to swap the onas means the penile stimulation will never get old. It's also great for VR and sleep cuddling since there's no risk of damaging a spine or fingers. I do have some gripes with it though; even in cosplay it's not very visually stimulating, only having one hole means there's no anal / oral play, and the knees are permanently bent which limits posing (hence why I'm buying more dolls)
I'd still recommend it to anyone looking to get into dolls, It's way cheaper then a premium silicone/tpe doll, since it uses onas you'll never get bored of the love hole, It's plush so its very low maintenance and most importantly It's durable as fuck. It shakes off care mistakes that would cripple a normal doll.

>>46672821
I understand the upsides you listed but I struggle with the appearance and feel of a plush. Tpe/silicones are uncanny valley but plushes are just scary. Although I do sleep cuddle with a body pillow already and I enjoy it a lot, maybe a full body plush doll would be nice but it would have to not look creepy and i wouldn't use it for anything sexual just sleep

>>46673000
Its hard to find a human shaped plush that doesn't look off, It's definitely a function over form type deal.
If you're a furry you could get something from https://www.etsy.com/shop/RimiPlushies
those are the best looking plushes I've been able to find.

>>46672084
My pipeline with onas was first a couple of onaholes, then I got a doll, then I got a hip, and then another doll.
Definitely from the onaholes to the doll was massive, and the doll has made onas almost obsolete for me, at least. The only thing I'd give them over the doll is they're easier to clean, but a doll is just so much more pleasurable than an onahole, so I feel like I can't go back to the onas as much, unless I'm looking for a quick one. I regret getting as many onas as I got, I haven't even used all of them yet, and don't think I will, since the doll is just too good.
And even though I downgraded from doll to hip later, I don't regret getting the hip, since the one I got has great visual stimulation with how it moves, it even makes me cum faster than the doll, and it's a bit easier to clean than the doll due to being much lighter. But I still prefer the doll than the hip or the onas.
The least, is probably the onas, especially a fleshlight that I got once, it gave me no stimulation whatsover, and I had to switch it out. Never used it again. But one thing I'll give onas is they come with lots of variations, so some can feel much better while others are lacking. You can look at their inner designs to get a feel of it, though I usually just buy them off of what the box design looks like. Probably why I've had several duds.

>>46672084
>owned a few fleshlights from my early 20's, STU was the only halfway decent one
>bought a tenga once, it was awful
>bought a bocca del verita and lolinco virgo in jan 22
>bought a kiwami DX and NPG EPH 3rd gen about a year later
>start making good money and placing bulk orders every six months or so
>now up to 36 onas, the two hips, and 2 mini-hips (cocolo and another one)
>bought a house 3 weeks ago
>130cm catdoll should be here in ~3 weeks

Anyone have "in stock" doll websites they bookmark?

>>46672084
I've never actually owned an ona but I started out with a fleshlight, then a hip, then a torso. I prefer the hip though but it's 30 pounds and pretty meaty compared to the torso, I think this thing has turned me into an ass man. I was about to buy a cheap hanidoll doll but thankfully my reason kicked in in time and I backed out. Hips are fun but not that good for vr like the fleshlight was, I'm thinking of getting another stroker for that. Unless you can place trackers on what you're penetrating it doesn't feel that immersive in vr and trackers don't fit well on anything larger than a fleshlight case. The hip was the biggest upgrade to me, going as deep as possible and grinding into an orgasm has got to be the most intense feeling I've ever had.

>>46672084
>buy a sleeve off of amazon
>feels alright, hear onas are better
>get a ZXY and Carnivorous Mermaid
>these feel a lot better
>attracted to dolls for a long time already
>if onas feel this good what about a doll
>buy first doll
>buy second and third doll later

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Which one of these doll brands would be able to provide me with such fantasy?

>>46674982
simple: buy an aotume
complex: buy a loli doll body of your liking and then buy an aotume head to go on top of it

oldoll sells myloliwaifu and other brand bodies by themselves and also sells the aotume heads by themselves. they sell in yen so for overseas customers they are extremely cheap
the site is in japanese but they have some english customer service and will just charge you an extra 50-100 bucks for overseas shipping. However, a 1400 dollar doll on western vendor sites is only 650 dollars on oldoll

>>46675004
Thanks anon. I'm looking for a more realistic body than Autome has to offer. And I need two of them, one svelte and one voluptuous. I'd like to go anime-style not full on anime. This has been a tough search. If I go with a loli doll for Megumin then I'm not shipping that direct through a .jp vendor. I'll go dollter/hgdoll/dollchannel to deal with customs. But I can't find a doll brand that has what I'm looking for. So it doesn't matter. :(

>>46675061
if you live in america there are no customs to deal with
if you live elsewhere idk but you should probably still ask the english oldoll support guy

as far as more realistic bodies myloliwaifu has a really good selection and the heads are almost always interchangeable so you can pick and choose what you like

>>46675061
and just so you know getting cosplays that fit is going to be somewhere between commissioning a jap twitter guy for 500 dollars and impossible unless you end up with an adult woman sized doll

>>46674833
Make sure you treat her right.

>>46675071
Dolls are not shipped by USPS. They are shipped by private companies which maintain a full right to search your shit on a whim. They are imported into custom and duty centers which have always had the right to search foreign goods sent into the US by foreign ports.

I live in the United States and I assure you we have strict customs and that they can be aggressive. Regardless of laws. They are also under no obligation to respect your privacy from the port of entry nor is the postal carrier. Nor will they if given any cause at all, let alone a legal cause. There are safer ways to ship controversial but legal sex dolls. Which is offered by more experienced vendors.

You are giving out incredibly irresponsible advice.

>>46675151
you do realize that for most of the history of dolls existing virtually all dolls had to be ordered from chink vendors and shipped overseas?
unless you live in one of the 6? states that criminalize loli dolls you won't have any problems
I have never heard of anyone in the USA having issues importing any doll because of customs, it simply does not happen. And I have been in these threads for almost a decade on and off.

>>46675151
OHHHHHH wait you're the TDC shill
ok that checks out

>>46674833
Did you at least watch Digimon Tamers?

>>46675160
Yes, most dolls are made in China. This isn't groundbreaking knowledge. Telling people to ship loli dolls in the US without a good shipper is objectively retarded.
>HG Doll
>Dollter
>Doll Channel
All will ship to the US first and then to you. Your reason to not do this is "dude trust me" and "money".

>>46675164
please don't even bring up that shithole

>>46675185
>get a 50% discount with no actual legal jeopardy that the US warehousers dont already deal with
or
>pay full USD price and still have the doll go through customs and get shipped by the same people anyway

give me ONE CASE of someone ordering from overseas and getting their shit seized or destroyed by any party in the USA that live in a non criminal state faggot

>>46675198
>dude trust me
>you will save money
If I buy a loli doll I'll do it through a vendor experienced in shipping into the US with a new label waiting stateside. Some jackass with no experience or understanding of supply chains isn't going to change my mind.

You are both poor and dumb to me. I can sympathize with poor.

>>46675213
I accept your concession

>>46675216
>I accept that I am poor and dumb
You have to because that is what you are.

For any mid to big brains following this nonsense Ricki at Doll Channel has TWO in stocks fucked up by customs for sale.
https://thedollchannel.com/product/in-stock-customs-handled-momodoll-138-cm-big-breast-kanako/
https://thedollchannel.com/product/in-stock-customs-handled-irokebijin-120-cm-huge-breast-big-ass-erika/
Out of twelve large packages I've had one of them inspected by customs. No damage. I wouldn't use his "inspection" service for damage though. I'd use it to obfuscate shipping so attention from the wrong people is given to retards where it belongs.

>>46675239
>mishandled by customs
>no damage
>still 400 dollars more expensive than the same doll from a JPY vendor

>>46675098
Don't worry I will. She might get an onahole pouch if I get good enough at sewing them in cheaper plushes where I feel confident doing it

>>46675182
Yeah but I prefer adventure more. I also used her in re:digitize, cyber sluts and next order.
I should start shopping for a rika cosplay for my incoming 110 cm waxdoll to go with it

>>46675288
Where'd you get the waxdoll?

Yeah that would be direct evidence of customs inspecting NON-loli dolls. I don't want my name and address in the hands of someone who inspects one WITH a loli doll in it.

Having to explain that to some idiot that probably works food service is fucking mind numbing. But everyone else here makes it worth it.

Yeah, we get it, you saved money buying from a moonrunes site. And it's a LOT of money to you. SO much money that you are willing to put OTHER people's privacy at risk. And your reasoning is fucking headcannon.

>>46675289
https://www.kumadoll.com/product-p3413332.html

>>46675306
UH OH ANON
UH OH
FOREIGN VENDOR?
LOOKS LIKE YOUR DOLL IS GOING TO GET GANGRAPED BY TYRONE AND JUAN AT CUSTOMS THEN YOU WILL GO TO PRISON FOREVER
SHOULD HAVE ORDERED FROM THEDOLLCHANNEL.COM ANON

>>46675298
if you actually cared about privacy you would sell your house, throw your phone in a lake then go live in the woods

>>46675313
HG Doll is the superior of the three vendors. Now go get ready for your shift.

>>46675321
Ok but stupid people can't conceptualize risk tolerance or mitigation. That's a you problem.

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>>46675313
>Bugman squished her nose in the manufacturers video they sent me
She's already used goods...

>>46675343
I got a cute little nose boop in my last factory vid too.

>>46675313
>SHOULD HAVE ORDERED FROM THEDOLLCHANNEL.COM ANON
But then his doll would get gang raped by Ricky and that dude with the clown mask

>>46675494
guess you JUST CANT WIN in america
SO MUCH FOR A FREE COUNTRY HUH?

>>46675502
I mean I can win but I'm not being a histrionic autist about where people buy their dolls, I'm just making jokes since Ricky looks like a creep

>>46675514
anon im not the user you think i am

>>46675527
>multiple anons sperg about vendors
>reply to one of those sperg posts
>y-you don't mean me you mean the other guy
You're going to be ok

>>46675514
you talk shit but someone bought that delicious centaur doll he fucked on camera

>>46675514
ricky IS a creep tbqh

>>46675553
obviously jealous

>>46675549
I mean that one I can kind of understand since where else are you going to get a centaur of that's you're thing

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>and welcome to The Doll Channel

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>but first a word from our sponsor: Accessories for Dolls

>>46675724
me in the back macking on the maid near the cammy white doll

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>be me
>want to buy a automatic onahole toy
>need something that is both quiet and clean
>dislike how with regular onaholes leave a mess of lube and jizz after blowing
>being forced to clean the lube jizz off my skin/pubes is not a good time
>hate how the thing is cold and I have to soak in hot water to avoid this or bare with the cold cock torment until friction heats it up
>does a device and possible accessories exist which would eliminate these problems entirely?

Currently just poking a hole in a paper towel and sliding the little guy through that as a dick bib. But surely a more complete auto jack off tool has been invented that solves these problems? I hate pumping my hand up and down holding this dumb thing, it's annoying. Any advice or reccs would be greatly appreciated.

>>46674833
better scotchguard that bitch

>>46675909
>no cleanup
No such thing exists.
>automated, but quiet
No such thing exists.
>self heating
If it exists, it's overpriced, unreliable, and possibly dangerous.

Closest thing you could possibly get to satisfy your requirements is a real girl that's willing to fuck you whenever and not expect anything in return. You'd have to be well and a ways beyond lucky to get that though.

two double D batteries worth of voltage can be nice every once in a while. who doesn't love energy dick.

>>46676099
>dubs of truth
well fuck.

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>anons calling others creeps
>in the onahole general

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>get drunk and buy an onahole
>never had one or anything similar
>finally arrives in the mail
>pretty skeptical
>use it 5 times on the first day
>cum harder than I have from jerking it
>harder than some of the times I acually banged a chick
Holy shit why didn't I buy one years ago, these things are scarily good. To the point where I don't think I'm ever using my hands again.

>looking up handjob porn because dolls cant do that
>yet
why do humans crave what they cant have

>>46675926
thanks I didn't even think of that

>>46672084
Got hip as 'joke'. Ended up loving it. I like thrusting into it, be it on bed or putting it on desk or just standing and holding it while porn plays in earphones.
Thinking of getting bigger one, but if it gets too heavy, it might become too much chore. I want to try onahole or fleshlight, but I just got so hooked on thrusting for now that I'm not sure.

>>46675494
Once Ricky shares his cloning technique the world will change.

>ULTRASKYN - REFRESH POWDER - DOC-JOHNSON
Anyone tried it? Does it work better than baby powder?

Is there a general rule of thumb for which doll height to get? Never gotten one and its a decent investment so i want to be careful about how tall i get. My gut tells me I want one about as tall as they come (im 6 ft, dont wanna be cuddling a midget) but obviously that entails big price hike.
Weight is a common concern with dolls but I see it as a means to exercise, as I do my hip toy (although its 4 lbs, not near doll weights).
I should probably just get a tape measure out to visualize sizes and hope TDC has accurate specs
I want my budget to be under $1k usd, i was looking at Irokebijin dolls primarily. Anything anime styled would do

>>46678469
>budget under $1k
Just get a Hanidoll as your starter. Better you spend $400-600 on something you may not like than $900-1500 anywhere else. Unless customization or getting an anime style face are absolute requirements, that's my recommemdation.

>>46678469
>Is there a general rule of thumb for which doll height to get?
No it's down to personal preference and weight & clothing consideration, It's easier to find clothes for an adult sized doll then a mini.
I got a ~70 lb doll as my first with the same thoughts as you "I'll use it to motivate me to exercise" and it didn't really pan out for me. Maybe you have more motivation then me but it just ended up pushing me to not really use it because cleanup was a chore. Nowadays I only buy dolls >40lbs because that's light enough for me to easily handle which makes the entire hobby more enjoyable to me.
Since it's your first doll and your budget is relatively low, I'd say get the cheapest irokebjin you can find, a hanidoll or a meki plush evo if you already have a ona collection. You're gonna make mistakes with your first doll and it's better to find out if this hobby is for you with a cheaper one. Plus there's some hidden costs to dolls like all the stuff you need for maintenance, clothes, etc.

>relative is going to be living with me for a while due to life
>have to hide doll, potentially for months
fgfsd.

>>46675724
I can't imagine ever buying from someone who posts videos of himself fucking the products.

is it normal for silicone onaholes to develop goose bumps around the place you usually grip them?

>>46678469
https://www.oldoll.com/product-p1829188.html
if you order from west-facing vendors you're only going to find minidolls under 1k

the actual ideal doll size depends on your height. if you want a loli/tween type doll then:
5'6~ : 135cm
5'9~: 145cm
6'+ : 155ish

this gives you a good height gap without ending up with a doll thats impossible to cuddle with because its feet end at your knees

>>46679782
My retired mom moved in with me. Shits been rough.

Does anyone know how different solid breasts are to hollow and gel breasts?

>>46676740
this but a dildo for my ass

>>46680901
I've had dolls with solid and gel filled tits. Gel is a lot better as far as squeezing them or feeling them pressed against you while fucking your doll goes but the nipple on solid ones are more fun to play with and feel perkier since they don't sink into the tit as easily. Tit fucking them will be up to your personal tastes, because the solid ones are firmer you can press them tighter and get more stimulation between them.

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I just impulse bought one of these girls because I like big plush dolls. I was curious about its construction and had some spending money saved up over the months. I'm not even in to onaholes or sex dolls, I just thought it was cute and wanted to have it in my collection and to hug it.

>>46681290
Quite the 5head. Link?

>>46674181
What hip do you have?

>>46681401
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806334481408.html

Stumbled on to it while browsing around.

>>46681517
>Aliexpress
Looks like a wire skeleton. The stop motion fortnite dance was kinda cute, but at that price and given where you're buying it from, you'll be lucky to get what you're buying.

>>46681600
I've had pretty good luck with Ali thus far, but I will admit that the stuff I usually buy from there are wholesale plush dolls, which are pretty hard to mess up. The store seems to be Estartek's official front, but your never know with these things.

Any recommendation on a through hole ona? I'm new to this and I'm more interested in ease of cleaning than suction.

>>46678469
At 6' 150cm is your minidoll and there's a ton of options after that. Raise your budget by $500 and your options will open up greatly. There really is a big difference in quality when you break $1k for a doll. Up the budget a bit and you'll have way more flexibility in what you are looking for. You may still come down to that lower number anyways but your shopping experience will be far better. Then when you're deal hunting you can share what you find here.
>>46680781
Anon is smart here in his deal hunting and size approximation. Using a moonrunes vendor for your first doll is a bit of an advanced tactic. But you can get a good doll instead of a shitty knock off brand if you can figure this out.
>>46680901
Gel breast melt in your hand and hollow squish up. Both feel good but gel is superior by far.

>>46682247
for some reason I assumed he was looking for a loli even though he never said anything to that effect

>>46678469
oldoll will ship to the USA after charging you an extra 100 bucks or so. their shipping is also very fast, after they got ahold of my doll it got to me in less than a week. it ended up taking a couple of months because the manufacturer was backordered, however

>>46682265
I didn't see you wrote loli in there. You are still a fucking retarded idiot putting people at risk. But, I respect your ingenuity in finding a vendor and understand why you're passionate about cutting hundreds of dollars off retail pricing. And if someone genuinely doesn't mind being on an FBI watch list then this is a surefire way to get yourself on it and have your information spread among other watchdog groups. I say go for it!

I've been browsing for my first onahole for days now and I can't decide what I want or like and everything seems like such a big investment, I really don't know what to do
I've never used anything but my hands so I'm not sure what kind of textures or paths are pleasurable for me at all or how hard it should be and so on

Should I just get a Venus Real or something? The description says it has a lot of mass appeal since it's modelled after the real thing but then I don't know if that's even a good idea since I figure with this stuff you should go for pleasure and novelty over trying to mimic real vaginas. It's also 90€ for something I don't know anything about
Masturbation is so complicated...

>>46682431
You could do what I did and get a few different models to try out different textures, brands, and whatnot. There are a wide array of options and price points to fit your needs, but you should also budget a bit for cleaning tools and storage. As for real vs abstract, it all depends on how much stimulation you want/can handle. Everyone is unique, so you won't really know until you try for yourself.
I did eventually end up getting a Venus Real and it's pretty good, but it was around $60 USD when I decided to buy mine. Still a little steep for a first purchase.

>>46682431
If you have no idea what you're looking for then get a Meiki ZXY

>>46679910
bro that's a feature

>>46682431
I have a venus real soft and a lilith hard, I like them both but I use the venus a bit more. Main thing between soft and hard is softs are easier to penetrate with a half-chub but the tunnel is a bit more "smooth" compared to a hard, It's harder to tell when you hit different parts of the ona it all just kinds of blends together if that makes sense. Easier to tell when you've hit different parts with a hard but you pretty much can't penetrate it unless you have a rock solid erection.
Whatever ona you end up getting, you should pick up a drying stick and some JP lube too.

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>>46672084
>go straight to a mini doll
>used until worn otu
>upgrade to a 130cm loli doll
>turns out my dick just likes novelty/variety and I'm not actually a lolicon
>give up for adoption
>get larger 100cm mini doll to split the difference between size for intercourse and ease of concealment
>good but doll lifestyle is becoming more trouble than it's worth
>am considering ritually executing her and moving on entirely

>>46683146
my minidoll satisfies my fairy fetish quite nicely but its a huge downside not being cuddleable
before my 135cm doll broke she lived in my bed and got 100x more hugs than fuggs

>>46683157
what's the minimum size you'd say a hip is worth it?
I got a 4lb one but now am not sure if it's gonna be big enough for every position

>>46683266
shit I didn't mean to reply sorry

>>46683266
I have never owned a hip so I can't say, but i imagine a large hip is somewhat like my minidoll
its not gonna be like a life-size doll that can hug and wrap its legs around you and be fully huggable

Are there holes for perochu?

>>46675306
afaik waxdoll is zelex/axbdoll

>>46675724
>Marie Rose doll
I'm in love

>>46675724
>>46675669
based juice

>>46669302
I kinda want to buy a doll but they are big so they are hard to hide and I'll have to keep it for the rest of my life and I assume I will get married sometime in my life. Also loli dolls are illegal here so I cant get a small doll if I want correct proportions.

I think I know the answer but it's not good for the TPE doll if I cuddle with it in bed, correct? Bad for the material and skeleton?

>>46684244
Not a problem if you wash and powder every waking morning but you wont

>>46679910
That's how you know you can trust him though. Dude has first hand experience.

>>46683817
yeah, picrel is what gave me the confidence to order, never heard of waxdoll till I bought the doll and I didn't see anyone talking about them either but I have seen people discuss zelex

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>>46685654
oops im retarded

>>46680678
please respond

>>46669302
What's the doll and outfit in the OP?

>>46684244
It's only bad if you have really bad quality sheets or you sweat like a hog

>>46686745
https://twitter.com/Dr_Blan

>>46686878
I do sweat a bit, i have to keep the ceiling fan on max and use a body pillow to keep my legs from overheating.

>>46683266
IMO if you want hands free, at least 5kg. Everything smaller is just a larger onahole from my experience.

>>46687242
You can always put them in some sort of full body stocking so that absorbs the sweat instead.
I'd be more concerned about injuring the skeleton while you sleep. I know this morning I woke up and my doll was halfway off my bed, thankfully she's plush because if she was tpe/silicone that probably would have been an injury.

>>46672084
1. Bought a no-name fleshlight for around 20 bucks because I wanted to try something else than my hand. The experience was better than I thought. But it broke quite easily after maybe 3 weeks of intense use.
I also learned to be better with cleaning and drying after getting a nasty dick-flesh eating fungus. And no it wasn't actually as bad as it sounds, it can be cured by just applying a medical powder, but it stays for a while so it's annoying.

2. Skip trying a tenga and directly bought an onahole. Slut Angel, Band XTC. For her curves and big boobs. The experience was even better than I thought, I like a lot TPE because of how stretchy it gets and going inside feels absolutely amazing. But after a while I felt like she was too small to play with, I wanted to be able to grab those hips with both hands, so-

3. I made the jump to a torso. Just to make sure if I would like it and keep up with maintenance properly, I picked the cheapest one that was still tall enough. Pure Bride Lolinco, Brand Magic Eyes.
I prefer TPE over their material, but boy, I'm not seeing myself going back to an onahole after trying this. The visual feedback from grabbing around all those perfect lines and curves just doesn't compare. I've always thought of myself as a missionary type of guy but going in from behind is also way too good. She also helped to fix a touch starvation that has been going for more than 20 years.

My next purchase is probably going to be one of the giant breasts torso from Hanidoll. I know that it's probably worth the money at this point.
My last purchase is definitely going to be a full sexdoll but for that I want to wait a bit to see if anything new comes out in the next 2 years. I know for a fact that unlike the torsos, I'm probably going to use the doll for hugs and company so it's like buying a wife, need to pick extra carefully.

>>46687449
i'm going to get a king sized bed and a 2nd catdoll and sleep like a naked baby sandwiched between them
if they get damaged i'll replace them
isn't expendable income one of the benefits of not having family?

>>46683266
First hip I got was 30 pounds, I couldn't imagine going any lower than that. It can't be a nip hip though, they have better tunnels but too light a weight.

>>46684244
just put them in a set of fluffy pajamas that covers everything so it doesn't get abraded, keep their hands out of the way, dont roll over on top of them, and don't let them fall off the bed
other than that you're good

>>46687599
>sleep like a naked baby sandwiched between them
Based, if you want to go the extra mile you can cover everyone in cornstarch before you sleep so you don't wake up to a sticky mess on those hot days.

>>46675004
I looked at oldoll and it has the loli doll i want. Havent bought a doll before so i have a few questions if you dont mind answering. Did you get a lolidoll? Do you live in the US? What form of payment do you use for dolls? Ive seen that paypal bans people for sex toys but i do most online purchases with paypal.

>>46688058
I got a loli doll
I live in the US
I bought JPY through paypal then paypalled an address that oldoll support gave me
they charged me 10000 JPY for overseas shipping
I've paypalled more lewd japshit than I can be bothered to count up and I'm not banned yet so idk
They didn't really send a LITTLE GIRL SEX DOLL invoice over paypal I just made a direct wire and then we were good to go

>>46687242
Put her in light pajamas then, TPE is also pretty good at absorbing heat so if that's the kind of doll you get she's going to help regulate your temperature when you sleep with her

>>46687542
>My next purchase is probably going to be one of the giant breasts torso from Hanidoll.
Get one with a head, that's going to be your litmus test for doll companionship

Any experiences with the south korean brand kokos?
If yes, would you recommend or should I just stay away from it?

>>46688058
Instead of using a sketchy JP vendor some random anon is clearly shilling for you can go to two established vendors that offer "special line" shipping. They will ship the doll to a local US warehouse and then that warehouse will re-label the package and send it to you. If your security and privacy do not matter then you're probably fine to have a pedophile doll shipped directly to you through and inspected by federal US customs.

The vendors you want to talk to are:
>dollter
>hgdoll
>the doll channel

They all have different inventories and very good service. Doll Channel is in the US.

>>46688313
>three

>>46688313
>sketchy jp vendor
>the largest and most reputable vendor among jap doll owners
not beating the paid ricky shill allegations

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>finally order a real doll
>ordered a smaller height one and she's still fucking heavy
>hard to get her into positions and took forever to find a comortable spot
>finally get comfortable and basically plow the shit out of her
>took me forever to actually cum which I guess is a good thing
>biggest orgasm I've ever had
>i'm hot sweating and exhausted
>do this almost every day
>wasn't overweight but have noticeable lost weight from the activity

>>46688386
>start gymfagging so you can lift doll easier
I even see this from jap doll owners when they order a doll as tall as them

>>46688360
This has nothing to do with that and everything to do with personal identification and security. You've been dodging privacy and it's either because you are genuinely retarded or getting paid. It doesn't matter because your advise is retarded and only a retard would risk their security because of another retard.

I will say it again for anyone who would like to stay off of a list. These three vendors offer local US shipping for loli dolls:
>hgdoll
>dollter
>the doll channel

Saving a little bit of money is not worth compromising your identity to people you don't want looking at you. Seethe all you want about that. It legitimately does not matter what you think or have to say about such an important topic.

>>46688386
>>46675669
This dude lifts dolls all day.

>>46688436
yeah because credit carding the surface web american loli doll seller and getting a loli doll shipped through federal mail to your house is going to totally protect your identity from the bank and feds
retard

>>46688386
Real sex will do that to you as well, whcih is why I think it will take a long time to ever get actual sex robots because they would have to be manufactured with light weight materials due to the weight alone

>>46688476
All three vendors I mentioned transact in obfuscated methods and legally. You are a moron. But thank you for helping me point this out easily. Also, their pricing is very good. So you don't really win there either. And importantly, transaction method aside, if someone opens your box your name isn't being passed to other agents or a friend interested in your identity.

>>46688478
Yeah weight is a big issue. I think we'll see some advances in materials like strong plastics or low cost alloys. Before then I think we'll see limited range of motion as we don't need a lot to get off. I'd be happy with a doll that could get into its own poses.

>>46688508
"obfuscated"
yes the fed looking over your bank records and seeing the well known, and legally registered as related, pseudonym for cunnysexdolls.com is totally gonna be fooled
wake me up when you pay in over tor bitcoin and have the doll shipped to a dead drop a state away and you pick it up while leaving your phone location on in your bedroom

you stupid nigger

How much better are onaholes than fleshlights? I hardly use my fleshlight because it's such a pain to clean and dry and doesn't even feel that good, but if an ona is significantly better than maybe it'll be worth it. Also, will I be able to use japanese onaholes if I'm 8 inches? It seems like most are shorter than that.

>>46688508
toydemon.com (a reputable US vendor of onaholes) bills and ships to you as "polydigitech"
only problem? a few clicks off a google search is all it takes to figure out what you actually bought, and your name, address, and bank account are on either the invoice, bank statement, or shipping label

unless you take extreme measures you have no privacy in the modern digital banking system you stupid fuckwit

>>46688525
We both know you know nothing of forensics. Especially financial forensics. You are correct that there is a risk here and that it could create a flag. That flag would be different than the one created at customs. Which you are openly encouraging others to do.

You can pay The Doll Channel in crypto. The other companies have holding companies in China. All of them ship a lot of different types of dolls. They will ship loli dolls to a US location and then reship them. This is the most secure method available.

You are a fucking moron.

>>46688551
yeah customs is definitely the only law enforcement entity who bothers "flagging" you when the rest of law enforcement can easily track and "flag" anyone who purchases from those sites with a FISA surveillance warrant or quiet subpoena of their bank records if they so choose

>>46688535
Okay, sure. And with machine learning the Eye of Suaron is on everything. And then you show up and tell everyone that having a box child sex doll shipped directly to your house when you can have it shipped to a US warehouse first and then your house is a bad idea. Because some tech nerd tracking you down is the real threat here. Not some mega-Karen that gets your name from an investigative agent that does not give a shit about your constitutional rights.

>>46688562
if you ship it to 100 warehouses its 100x more private! why dont you do that?

>>46688562
you live in the pan-opticon and buying and shipping shit through a clearnet bank to your home address is not private no matter what autistic-but-legal """obfuscation""" methods you use

luckily, in 45? states it is completely fucking legal to buy a loli sex doll so the feds dont give a shit (yet)

>>46688558
Yeah, that's right. So people should take their personal security a little more seriously. And transact as well as ship a little more seriously. So when people show up telling you to do the opposite, you should call them out for it. Which is what we have going on here.

It's one thing to be defensive because you have a fragile ego on a matter. It's another thing to be that big of an idiot and insist on putting others at risk. Then to cover that up with a strawman like one threat model is the same as another. They are not.

>>46688579
It isn't "the feds" you need to worry about. It is real people that want to find and identify you and they are not simply "feds".

>>46688587
people should take their personal security a little more seriously by using the same clearnet bank to pay a different vendor who then ships with the same company to the same address using the same real life full name you give them
because shipping from a warehouse after it already went through customs magically makes it invisible to the feds or "karens"

>>46688568
Or I could hire someone to ship to a US warehouse and have that warehouse re-ship my doll with dozens of others going out every day. Which is a service available right now from the three most reputable vendors that serve this market.

>>46688591
>It is real people that want to find and identify you
if non fed entities with access to bank records etc are stalking you that sounds like a personal and far more serious issue

>>46688595
You're right, there is still risk here. That is exactly what should be explored.

>>46688609
you're not eliminating any risk no matter how many warehouses you route the doll through

>>46688609
also whats up with the fucking weasel words here
you're REALLY not beating the paid shill allegations

>>46688604
Yeah, and it likely is not happening. Most news stories out there on this topic started at the customs office. Although with the $600 reporting rule on taxation and spending we don't know what data is being collected or how it is being analyzed.

So to anons point on payments, if that entity is known, you're known.

>>46688614
You're making this up to save face.
>>46688620
I'm not paid for anything. Your pride is irrelevant. I do suspect oldoll has paid someone now. I can't fathom why they wouldn't just make an engrish portal. So probably this is just some retard sperging out because they felt so proud of their few hundred dollar price discount.

>>46688624
>Most news stories out there on this topic started at the customs office.
can you name one that is
1. in the united states
2. in a state where ordering a loli sex doll is legal
because I have only seen stories out of shithole anglosphere countries and one in tennessee (where they are illegal)

>>46688637
The worst I recall was in Canada and I know it's happened in Australia. It's happened in the US and the individual was embarrassed before his community.

In order to defend their position of "dude it's fine trust me" they have to attack anyone who so much as wants to have privacy and security. So they're doing all these gymnastics to try to achieve it.

If you feel comfortable sending a child sex doll directly to your house go right ahead. That's what they're suggesting you do. I'm suggesting this is unnecessary as you can have it shipped in a more secure manner.

I'm sure a smart person can think through the potentials here without having to ask.

And I wonder if there is a vendor here intentionally putting our people at risk so they can make some money on this. If so, fuck you.

>>46688657
>The worst I recall was in Canada and I know it's happened in Australia.
shithole anglospheres where they are completely illegal and have been for years
>It's happened in the US and the individual was embarrassed before his community.
link please

>>46688528
If theyre all too short, get open ended ones. Those have a nice sensation of their own, I have experience with that

>>46669302
Cosmetic surgery should be illegal

>>46688666
also you are bringing up cases where the feds were the ones creating the problem and we've already establish that the feds don't care and already know no matter which vendor you use
so where's the case of a customs karen giving your info the pedo batman group who proceeds to doxx you in the local newspaper, i'll wait

>>46688666
There is a lot of information about this topic out there, Satan. Importantly I am concerned about trends. Something you don't even understand.

This topic is controversial with powerful political forces working on it. And there are people hunting you down. Then this complete chucklefuck is trying to build a case for dropping your guard. In this situation public embarrassment could be considered the punishment itself. Especially by people who have your name and want you outed.
https://archive.is/9lHjw
https://archive.is/AyAL6 (CA)
https://archive.is/zyIou
These are extreme cases and obviously you likely don't fit these profiles. The question isn't whether or not it is legal to buy an amoral object. It is what happens if your box gets opened with your name on it at customs.

Do you really want to put your faith in someone arguing against securing yourself in an easy manner from this? When the law are updated in your state and not in your favor, do you want to be a known entity by LEA?

Only an idiot would find this acceptable. Obviously.

>>46688729
>https://archive.is/9lHjw
not charged for the child sex doll, charged for child porn possession

>https://archive.is/AyAL6 (CA)
child sex dolls are completely illegal in canada

>https://archive.is/zyIou
convicted of terroristic threats, PRODUCTION of child porn, and possession of child porn

none of these are people who are otherwise law abiding citizens getting randomly and unjustly outed or abused by law enforcement for merely ordering a child sex doll

please get better material

>Importantly I am concerned about trends.
>Something you don't even understand.

Who wants to put their faith in some idiot that is more passionate about saving a few hundred bucks than keeping fellow anons off of a fucking list?

>if you order a child sex doll through this known child sex doll vendor you won't be put on a list
>but if customs xrays your package you'll get put on the list

>30 posts in a hour
From where are those idiots arguing coming from?
Just go back to /pol/ if you want to talk about politics.

>>46688762
Yes, if customs IDs you they are going to hand your name off to someone hunting for you. There is no law against this.

>>46688782
"someone"

>>46688783
Yeah, I can name a lot of those groups. I am not going to. You're wasting our time here brainlet.

>>46688789
if such groups exist how can you be sure they haven't infiltrated the US vendors
all it would take is 1 guy being a warehouse grug worker and he could easily get names and addresses

>>46688794
Great question. I'd respect you if you were smart enough to ask this in a friendly non-adversarial manner. Instead I actually believe you are stupid. So for me this is basically what you weren't smart enough to think through before happening now. You're making good progress though.

>>46688803
you're just a paranoid schizophrenic or a paid shill
present evidence or start naming names faggot

>>46688808
I'll let doll shoppers read through this convo and check out the vendors on their own. You can say what you want but there's no reason to put people at risk. And as I've said, I do think retards should listen to you.

If anyone wants to shave $2-300 bucks off a child sex doll shop on "oldoll" which is a Japanese vendor. They do not offer English shopping but can communicate in English via email. It is a legitimate operation and you are taking advantage of the Yen being weak. I'm probably going to do this for a full sized doll. Anon isn't wrong there.

These vendors offer English shopping and are experienced in shipping to the US securely:

>hgdoll
>dollter
>the doll channel

As anon pointed out, might be a good idea to check your payment method. I know Doll Channel accepts crypto. The other two use wire transfers, paypal, and aliexpress. Maybe consider splitting the payments under $600.

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>>46688855
>Maybe consider splitting the payments under $600.
or just pay your taxes instead of putting an obvious red flag for the brand new 100000 irs agents to audit you
you're schizoing out about how the feds are gonna track you and yet you're telling people to deliberately red flag themselves with the IRS instead of just paying the taxes

>>46688770
It's probably that one autist that hates dolls and loves to shit up the threads arguing with himself
He usually gets banned for a while and comes back doing shit like this to derail threads

once again I am asking you to name the vigilante groups who are so connected with customs that CBP agents hand your name off to them after xraying a box and seeing a loli doll

>>46688877
I don't know what would trigger the state to look at a $1,200 payment to a doll manufacturer. I doubt it's defaulting on taxes.
>>46688947
You say this a lot in threads. I think the oldoll shill is legitimately butthurt that someone doesn't like their vendor.
>>46688954
>you have to kick the ball through my goalpost
No. I made my case and I didn't do it for you. If someone wants to ship direct to save money they can. If someone wants extra privacy they can go that way instead.

You should be getting ready for your shift.

>>46688983
>I don't know what would trigger the state to look at a $1,200 payment to a doll manufacturer. I doubt it's defaulting on taxes.
you think the IRS doesn't have computerized systems to flag back to back 599 payments to the same address? (obvious tax evasion)
> If someone wants extra privacy they can go that way instead.
you have yet to actually prove that there is any extra privacy despite this very lengthy discussion

>>46688995
You raise a good point on transactions. Chopping up payments as I suggested may be the actual flag. I do know if I wanted to find you I'd have a list compiled of Chinese corporations. And then watch money transfers.
>prove to me that having your name and address on a box with a child sex doll opened by customs is less secure
No.

>>46689022
>>prove to me that having your name and address on a box with a child sex doll opened by customs is less secure
as opposed to the exact same box with the same name and address getting sent through the mail to your house after being imported through the same customs by some company

>>46689031
I think anyone who isn't a moron would prefer to have a loli doll shipped to a large warehouse, relabeled, and reshipped with dozens of other similar packages. As does anyone who is serious about this topic, and not retarded.

>>46688983
>You say this a lot in threads.
>You
I haven't mentioned the guy at all this year, you're giving up your game

>>46689090
Has it been that long? I remember you saying that when the furfag shows up. But I always thought you were the furfag pumping your own shit.

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>ordered a loli doll to my doorstep and a shota doll through an inspection service
It's legal where I live so I'm not too worried. Main reason I ordered through the inspection service was because I need them to hold it until a certain date and it'll get to me faster if it's already in the US. Would have done the same for the loli doll but the vendor didn't offer it. I'm expecting the only difference to be the loli box will have "silicone mannequin" labels on it.

>>46689196
Doll boxes all look the same. Some have larger Chinese writing. I've never seen one with "mannequin" written on it and I've look at a lot of them. We can just hope the customs guys just laugh and move on when they see the boxes. I bet there's a lot of them too. I've had dolls show up in a week from air freight before. Watching the tracking I can't see how anyone would have had the time to inspect it. But then I've had boxes get stuck in the KY import office. That shit is terrifying.

>>46689117
>all of those anons must be me
Stop being a schizo
>>46689196
>I'm expecting the only difference to be the loli box will have "silicone mannequin" labels on it.
It might have that or "figurine" or something, I ordered a mini doll and the box just had "doll" written on the side in small print with nothing else

>>46689319
>Stop being a schizo
you're not the one that always says
>It's probably that one autist that hates dolls
really? I don't think that's more than one person and I'm pretty sure you're the furfag now. You are, aren't you... sneaky furfag.

>>46688386
>>46688421
Lift (her) for her

>>46689367
>it can't be multiple anons
>it has to be one guy that's actually pretending to be a bunch of guys
>I'll also bring up the furry autist and say he has to be that guy as well
>that's far more believable to everyone than me just being a retard shitting up the thread
Notice how the stupid shipping argument stopped when this guy got called out because he thought he could bait a real person into a drawn out argument
You gave yourself up, fuck off

>>46689588
lol it's the furfag. You post the elsa babe furfag dolls and the baby dolls. You start shit or jump in the middle to stir up more shit. Just like you're doing here.

I'm right, aren't I? And I'm pretty sure I know what dolls you own.

why does this thread have multiple perennial schizo retards that the mods never ever get rid of

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>amirite

>>46689690
they don't care what cunts like you think.

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>>46689690
Read this reply chain then tell me this guy is mentally sound.

I'm in Germany, is Omochadreams really the best way to get some toys?
They are horribly expensive on there. I was looking at some of the recommendations in the OP and they are all just below 100€ on that site...

>>46689722
Those are different anons though. And they are all replies to someone else. You sound obsessed.

it is the furfag isn't it. lol.

All this yap but what even is considered a child sex doll? Anything flat chested? Height? Labelling? If you just get a regular minidoll are you assraped by feds?

>>46689784
motsutoys is also an option
kanojotoys will probably work as well but they ship direct from japan so it will probably be expensive, their list prices for items are relatively low to compensate though
there's a new shop that's based in germany I believe and a couple anons reported making test purchases from them, shipping took a while but they did get their goods: https://worldofonahole.com/

>>46689934
whatever the government says it is
the definition changes from government to government so you'll have to look up your local law

>>46689690
Pretty sure it's just one that immediately starts accusing other people of being him or that it's just one person calling him out
His posts all read like he's going through a manic phase and are almost always just a couple minutes apart so he's easy to spot in a low activity thread like this

>>46689934
The big issues is UK/Aus regulation. That set a tone of anything below 151cm. Full figured dolls modeled on adults at 100cm are included if you live in Australia. In the US the same applies for
>Tennessee
>Kentucky
>Hawaii
>South Dakota
>Florida
>Utah
>Arizona
>Wisconsin
This is fucked up because you could think you're buying a miniaturized adult figure but the law measures this by height not dimensions. The state has been hesitant to enforce the law. They are holding back and watching while working out how to push these cases through the court system. Or if they even can. Fucking an inanimate object is not a crime. There is no victim. Obscenity laws have already almost all ben overturned or are no longer enforced.

Which should provide some comfort but if you have kids, work for the government, or want to someday, etc.

>>46690009
I think TN and KY have already given people prison time for catdoll type stuff but i couldn't give you an article or an indictment paper right now

>>46689973
I'm easy to spot because I'm highly active today as you pointed out. That's a very rare occurrence. You're easy to spot because you always look for a way to start shit with people or troll the thread. That is what you do here.

Yeah, I might have been a little harsh on oldollanon. But I had good reason. You don't, you're just projecting your furfaggotry. I don't think I'm wrong about that. You didn't deny it.

>>46690022
I'm pretty sure KY prosecuted once, I think the judgement was mixed, and the dude was shattered anyways. I don't think they've prosecuted since. What's scary is that a lot of doll boxes go through and stop in Kentucky for customs.

>>46690038
Even if a loli doll ends up in a kentucky mail hub I don't think they have jurisdiction to prosecute if it's clearly marked for shipping to somewhere else.
Contrast with scheduled substances (even MJ) that are federally controlled and outright banned from the mail.

Pensytucky here, no problems with a harem of child sex dolls.

>>46690038
>>46690051
lots of states individually ban possession of many otherwise innocuous items and if the carriers were in any legal jeopardy for simply routing them through those states they would definitely be giving customers a giant list of banned items

>>46690074
PA or KY tho

>>46690082
pennsyltucky is just another name for rural PA

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>>46690074
>>46690086
>there's two of us
I was not expecting that
maybe one day we can throw a tea party for our dolls

>>46690101
I dont live in PA

Just got my first doll and I had some upkeep questions. How often do you guys clean your dolls every couple of days?

I only use condoms with her so i don't have to wash her out. And do any of you sleep with your dolls? I usually just let her sit flat on the bed but when I go out for a bit to work and such I lean her up in her box in my closet mainly so if my parents drop by house

>>46690079
Right. They (UPS/Fedex) can also search at will. You have no 4th amendment rights with a private carrier. The reason they don't is because they legit don't care. It costs time and money, it isn't illegal, they have no cause to bother. That's the good news. That and I suspect the volume of dolls being sold is pretty enormous.

>>46690086
>>46690101
Read this reply chain then tell me this guy is mentally sound.

>>46690028
I haven't said anything to you in this thread until this post, go take your pills anon and stop all that insane projection

>>46690111
you have to clean out the lube too, and make sure it's completely dry
otherwise mold WILL grow
>And do any of you sleep with your dolls?
yes and its very nice you just need to be cautious

>>46690134
Ah ok I thought you were that other anon. You're still a fucking cunt interrupting a real discussion because your fee fees are triggered.

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>>46690132
??

>>46690138
sorry that was a very bad and poorly delivered joke

>>46690137
>anon asks why there's a schizo
>give him an answer
>schizo jumps in accusing me of being yet another anon that had called him out and then accuses me of being some furfag and insists he's right because I didn't deny it when I'm not even the first person he accused
>REEEEEEEEEE YOUR A CUNT AND YOUR FEELINGS ARE HURT NOT MINE AND YOU INTERRUPTED BY RESPONDING TO ANOTHER ANON AND NOT ME FIRST
I can't follow that train of thought at all, I'll say you need to go take your pills again though

>>46690163
jesus christ let it go and let us chat about the topic

>>46690135
Im not gonna lie my hip holes havent been dry since i got it a bit over 2 weeks ago. I underestimated the importance of drying sticks. Is my dick gonna fall off? I try to rinse the hip out thoroughly and it soaks in hot soapy bath water each time and it has zero smells or alarming oozes, its just always wet. I just ran out of astroglide so i will get sticks along with lube

>>46690172
Irony

>>46690174
i recommend an aquarium air pump with vinyl tubing
the dry sticks are kinda meh in my experience and probably more damaging than a plastic tube

>>46690174
as long as you rinse out really well and most of the time use a little soapy water you're gonna be fine with a smell test. it's when you don't do a good job of getting the fluids out that you get a problem. or if you do leave water in there for a very long time. it's more about organic material being still in there.

>>46690177
ok all caps hero you've won this round no one wanted to play

>>46690202
Take your pills, this is just a manic episode and you don't need to be upset, your embarrassment will pass and I'm not mad at you. You're going to be ok.

>>46690192
Yeah i always stick my finger in to make sure i stop feeling any lube or jizz before i put it away
But i might have to go the aquarium pump way cause i keep looking into a doll but its a big investment for me

>>46690211
>it's your mental illness not mine
lol yeah right you triggered little bitch

>>46690242
>I'm melting down and acting like a clown, you're upset not me
You're going to be ok.

>>46690216
Protecting the dolls onahole is pretty important if you need it to last. Most of that won't be drying as much as tearing and repair. The harder part w/ dolls is that you gotta put in some effort to rinse them out. If you got a good spot for this it's way easier. Once she's rinsed well you're okay if she's still wet for a short while. My rule is if she's well rinsed/cleaned within 48 hours good to go anything longer and dry or not I disinfect and rinse. You can get a warmer with UV-A light too. It's not super strong but is a known disinfectant. Just keep up on it every time you use the doll and check a week later if you haven't. Then you're fine.

>>46690257
>melting down acting like a cloowwwhoooown
>>46690163
tell us more about projection

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It’s coming home (after being made and shipped)
150cm Elsa Babe. I can’t recover after this

>>46690289
nice congrats anon.

>>46690009
So basically if you live in any of these states youre locked out of anything under $1.5k? Not fair. But i ordered something i would consider much more child-like (albeit hip) directly from amazon no issue. So is there enough to worry about?

>>46690314
full size dolls are probably the only thing you'll be prosecuted for
even a loli hip with no loli packaging in your house is probably not prosecutable but you should read the law to be sure

>>46690314
Not the price the height and just dolls. I don't think a hip is even on the radar for them. They haven't prosecuted anyone for dolls so far as I know. Arizona just updated their statutes so we'll see. If I lived in these states I'd just ship to a UPS store in another state and drive home.

Will you fucks stop scaremongering for fucks sakes? Buy what turns you on, get accessories as you like and go to town fucking or dressing up your inanimate object. Damn... Your shitposting is very pussy worried about what others think of you. None of their damned business now fucking DO IT.

>>46690347
my nigger in christ people go to prison when they break the law

>>46690347
Yeah! Unless you're in Australia, the UK, Saudi Arabia, or any of those states listed above.

>>46690333
I meant that in the sense that if you want to play it safe you have to buy taller than 120cm or whatever which is generally expensive. I am leaning towards the customs handled erika on tdc for my first doll but im scared of getting in trouble. Surely feds arent going to bust open the box to measure if its the "legal height"?

>>46690374
not the feds but maybe the state cops if you live in a state where it's a problem

if you're gonna get caught its gonna be because you have it shipped to an address in a banned state. if you ship it to a legal state then it lives in your closet for the rest of its life the feds have no possible way of knowing about it

On the topic of what a "child like" doll is how do you guys think this one would get ruled?
https://moon-doll.com/collections/cudoll-collecction/products/cudoll%C2%AE-150cm4-92-m8-full-silicon-a-cup-no-3171
Its 150cm but has no tits which sucks because I want an elf and live in cuck TN

Im still really confused about what would get me in trouble. Seeing different heights and also google results saying its not about height but "appearance of maturity "
I guess i have to ask thedollchannel support for their take on it, surely they get a bunch of orders from florida.

>>46690466
its often arbitrary but my gut feeling is a doll 150cm+ would not be reasonably construed as "child-like"

>>46690466
I should add im looking exclusively at anime style dolls, so hopefully that eases the situation.

>>46690466
If you're in a state where loli dolls are illegal anything under 150cm is a risk even with giant tits. It's stupid but it is what it is. If you're not then you can import any doll you want and just risk embarrassment. Or getting on a list run by who knows then watched by who knows.

Flipside of this the Yen is getting fucking hammered right now and we can probably all get loli dolls at half off soon.

>>46690481
if you live in florida they dont even define what a child like sex doll is in the law
other states might you should look up the law
150cm+ is probably safe

>>46690427
>>46690480
>>46690481
>>46690497
>>46690501
Like with anything regarding vague laws, it's entirely up to interpretation. Odds are, unless you're actively being investigated for something related, they wouldn't bother snooping your shit to begin with. That being said, if you think there's so much as a chance that it could get you in trouble, then you're better off not even trying. I've said it before, but you can always seek legal council ahead of time before purchasing something questionable. Talking to a criminal lawyer and getting their opinion on the matter will help you make a decision. If they tell you it's illegal, then you know not to bother. If they tell you it's not illegal then you have a bit of reassurance and, worst case scenario, you get in trouble anyway then you can sue that lawyer for bad legal advice. Always try to get a second opinion though, if you're so inclined.

>>46690274
>you made fun of me that means you're upset
Seethe, cope, etc

>>46690536
lol I see you need the last word. go ahead and take it. or leave it to me. I just made u my bitch either way.

>>46690536
>>46690556
>>>/soc/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/tv/
>>>/mlp/
Go be gay somewhere else.

>>46690527
>>46690501
This is so ridiculous just to get a piece of rubber to share a bed with :(

>>46690501
150cm+ is certainly safe. It's 5'+. I prefer women 5'3" - 5'5" myself but I like my dolls 140-150cm 'cause fuck dead weight and gangly arms ruining my vertebrae.

>>46690527
I did some digging and so far only 2 people have been arrested for buying a child like sex doll.
1 in tennessee who got 1 year of probation for owning 7 of them
1 in utah who was already a registered child sex offender and whose case has not concluded yet
no word on the dimensions or nature of the dolls in question but i doubt they were flat chested 150cm elf women dolls instead of catdolls

So if you live in one of those states, don't have a catdoll shipped to your house from anywhere. The feds will know. And probably don't post on the internet that you have one if you do have one. And don't commit any other crimes that would result in a full scope search warrant. Other than that you should be ok.

>>46690466
The rules are vague on purpose. If you really want a loli and live in one of the shitty states trying to ban sex toys and are willing to take a road trip then get a hold of Ricky, buy your doll and instead of having it shipped you drive down to Texas and pick it up from the doll channel in person, it's a service they offer for exactly this reason. They're all a bunch of weirdo doll fuckers like the rest of us anyway so it's not like they will shame you for buying one and then you can just drive home with your new doll.

>>46690349
>>46690366
Respectfully, fuck off. Get a backbone.

>>46690588
Yeah or you can just ship it to a state next door. Postal stores are all over.

>>46690595
Get a brain attached to yours.

>>46690556
>n-no you need the last word not me
>y-y-youre upset and I'm not the bitch reeeeeee
lol
lmao

>>46690578
It is ridiculous, but when you consider everything else going on in the world it could be much, much worse. Things won't ever get better though.

Just a generally question how do wigs work for dolls? Do I need to look for something specifically

>>46690135
How do effectively dry. Only real lube I used was a condom

>>46690701
Doll heads are smaller than human heads. Some wigs use dye that can stain the head. TPE dolls will be more susceptible to this. This is easy to overcome. You get a neutral colored wig cap, wig band, and then wigs have these little straps on the back you can use to tighten them.

Wigs are cheap and fun. I have boxes of them and can't stop buying more. They're easy to fuck up too so it gives me the excuse to try new ones. The smaller your dolls head the more difficult the fit will be. I've gotten big wigs on very smol dolls. You'll be fine. Get a fuzzy hair ties, they double as anklets/bracelets. Get matching furry ears. Super fast lingerie swap.

>>46690765
aquarium air pump or daub with a cotton cloth until dried
if you just leave it wet its not gonna dry on its own most likely

>>46690794
ok my doll came with a pump and a heating stick. Just wanted to be sure

>>46690797
well thats convenient

>>46690701
I get a neutral colored wig cap and a wig grip band to keep it from slipping off. The bangs might be too long depending on the wig so you might need to cut them a bit so it lines up

>>46690797
>>46690800
Can you just use a blow dryer into her hole?

>>46690797
that's not a pump anon it's a really cheap douche for rinsing
>>46690820
nah but you can get away with paper towels

>>46688478
Or the robots could be strong enough to hold some of their weight.
Nobody brings up weight control

>>46690374
I don't think the giant breasts are going to qualify for child like. The height is a bigger issue in Australia. In the US it's the height and the chest size, then how the authority subjectively feels which is ridiculous. Also you can consider intrastate transit vs. international. Once a package in the US the 4th amendment applies. Private carriers do not need to obey this but the state can't come in and ask them without a warrant. That does not mean the state gives a shit or the carrier will tell them to fuck off. They don't, they won't. If you're shipping domestically you are very safe. There is no probable cause whatsoever for a simple domestic transaction.

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Alright, which one of you abandoned his doll at my work?

How the fuck do I last longer?
I can't get past maybe 10 strokes with ona.

>>46691134
Get a tight and hard "training" ona and use it exclusively until your penis' nerve endings are so dulled your softer normal ones barely even register anymore.

Or do the smart thing, stretch out your foreplay longer and practice edging to discover your actual limits so you can better control and ride your orgasms instead of it being a quick one and done shot.
Everyone is different there but for most people vibrators also help with edging a lot. I have a Manta and it easily gets me close to the edge, especially when I press it against my frenulum, but on its own never quite offers enough stimulation to push me over it.
Also do kegels and just generally don't stroke yourself as hard.

>>46691134
How long have you used it?
The first time I used an ona I was so excited and horny I came during insertion. It's both a mental thing and the physical aspect of it being an unused stimulation compared to your hand.
Also keep in mind the goal should be to feel as much pleasure as possible, not to "last a really long time" where you mindlessly pump your dead feeling semi-flaccid penis for hours on end without cumming. If you are quick to cum because you are so sensitive that's good in its own right.

>>46691134
>How the fuck do I last longer?
Breath control. You take rapid shallow breaths when you're excited right? Try and take deeper slower breaths and see if that helps, it works for me.

>>46690818
>>46690767
I’m >>46690289 and one of the perks buying Elsa Baba right now is a second head for free once you sent some pictures and I was thinking about getting one of the elf heads but they sadly don’t have anything coming close to Deedlit in platinblond so I would need to get a wig myself.
Will look into it, there is still some time left.

I'm pretty new to onaholes, I've only ever had like generic Tenga before and even that was a few years ago now
Are there any like drastically different holes you can recommend to experiment with so I can figure out what I actually like best and just for some variety in general I guess?

What are some onas with the strongest vacuum?

Anyway to tell the material of a onahole? I used some generic plastic tubing from the pet store for the air pump I got and it reacted badly to one of the holes. I'm guessing it was TPE and now I'm paranoid.

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>>46691807
for long hair you will need not want a hair tie. these are cheap and there's all kinds. short hair and short bangs are great. cutting bangs is easy. there's videos. good ponytail wigs can be god tier. search cosplay wigs on aliexpress, temu, and you can get them overnighted on amazon in a rush.

also get a powder poof and a container. get a big blush brush. use both for powdering. poof to apply. brush to spread. easy and fun.

>>46692053
Yeah, gonna need to look into it before and once the doll arrives

>>46692053
doll care to tranny pipeline

I've never used an onahole before, but I'm planning to get a hip and liking the look of the Kiwami DX.
I don't want to sink a chunk of money into an awkward piece of silicone that I don't enjoy, so I'm thinking of buying something that's similar in look and feel on aliexpress.
Can anons provide any links to a decent hip piece?

>>46693734
I know its amazon but if you're just looking for a cheaper one to try: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B7R9FN3C?
Its not gel-filled or as big/heavy as the one you wanted but its also nowhere near as expensive. I enjoy this one and it's just like the photos.

>>46693938
Am ausfag, but this looks decent anon and I'll keep it in mind, thanks.

Just got a RealDoll X in February and wondering if I should buy lube to use with it. I never really liked using that stuff because of how sticky and messy it is, but I read that many people like to use it for the realism factor. I'm pretty content using it as it is but wondering if any of you lovedoll enthusiasts can comment on it. Thanks,

Does anyone use vibrators?
I've tried experimenting with my electric toothbrush before and didn't really feel much so I was looking for opinions before dumping $100 on a Hitachi or something

>>46695168
I've tried using two Sonicare toothbrushes back years ago because I thought it would be good enough to penetrate through the scaring if I used the brush on my glans and the front middle area but while I could feel it, it couldn't bring me to orgasm which led me back to putting bits of things like paper clip cuttings in my onahole.

>>46695168
I have one of those dick sleeves that has 5 slots for bullet vibrators. 3 of them have one pattern and the other 2 have other patterns. And it's pretty good. I can barely last if I have all 5 of them in, and with the strongest patterns on.

>>46691822
https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/meiki-no-syoumei-05-zhang-xiao-yu
Good all rounder

https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/umi-no-ana-1-shy-mermaid
Softer hole meant for edging

https://www.toydemon.com/masturbators/onaholes/umi-no-ana-2-carnivorous-mermaid
Harder hole meant for stimulation

https://www.americanmeat.com/products/single-color-two-hole-pony-sex-toy
Furry silicone

>>46692028
afaik the only way to tell is cutting out a piece of piece of it and doing a burn test, google silicone burn test if you want to know more

>>46695168
I tried a little silicone vibrator stroker thing i got zero enjoyment out of it. I couldn't understand how it was supposed to be sexy

Trying to find an onahole I saw a while ago (I think it was on otonaJP)

Illustration on the box was a a busty anime girl in a blue Power Rangers/Super Sentai-esque suit.
I think the helmet was shark-themed

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>46692028
wrap the tube with something else and tape.

>>46696172
Juukon Sentai Juusoldier The Hole Juu-Blue Mizuha Aomiya on kanojo toys might be it. Looks mega man themed to me. Like battle network.

>>46696775
Yeah that's the one, thanks anon!

>>46695168
I've only used those super cheap bullet vibes, they don't do much for me. Was eyeing some of those contraptions you strap onto your glands before, like the Octopuss or whatever it was called, but never pulled the trigger.
Main benefit of a vibrator would be less clean up for me honestly. Sometimes you just want a quick fap, with maybe a little extra to spice things up, and don't feel like dealing with all the clean up that goes along with an ona. Variety is always good anyways.

>>46696974
instead of the bullet get an egg and put it in the ass of a hip or a doll.

Talk me out of the 140cm Irokebijin akane, bros.. it would be my first doll.
I let myself get talked up the upgrade ladder.
>well dont just get a torso, for a little more you get a doll
>well dont just get a mini doll, get one that isnt super short

But if I do get it... for options they have solid/hollow/gel breasts. Im leaning towards gel cause i think someone itt said they 'melt' in your hand nicely. But is the upkeep and expected lifespan the same for all options? If the gel deflates or pops or whatever i dont want to ruin my investment
Also theres removable or permanent vagina, the photos arent really clear i dont understand how it works
Im not a footfag but i probably wont get studded cause theres no standing room for her at my place. Bad idea?

>>46689934
Depends on where you are. In Germany for example, it isn't defined at all and most German vendors play it safe by not offering anything under 148cm. I saw a post from some lawyer recommending not going under 160cm with small breasts, but I think he is just covering his ass. As far as I could find out, no one has been charged since they changed the law.

>>46697043
>140cm Irokebijin akane
The ass is hard and won't slap. Tits will be great. No oral.

>>46697043
>>46697442
Wouldn't the ass only be hard on the silicon 140, and not the TPE one that they also have (I'm assuming he means that one, as it's cheaper.)
I have a 95cm Silicon and I personally don't find the ass "that" hard and can slap it fine.

>>46697043
>Removable
Do not get this for your first doll. In-built feels way better and you still end up having to clean the cavity with Removable anyway, defeating the purpose.
>Standing vs non-standing
YMMV but it is nice to have the option.

>>46697562
yeah tpe will be soft for irokebejin and it will be dollhouse tpe which is going to feel really good on your dick and hands

>>46697562
>>46697609
oh and pretty please if you can do a softness test for us that would be a big deal for this brand. here's an example format from mizuwali himself on piper silicone
https://files.catbox.moe/26l6py.mp4
or if you could at least tell us how it compares to that slappity slap it would be appreciated

>>46697043
>is the upkeep and expected lifespan the same for all options?
iirc gel breasts/ass do technically reduce the lifespan but the skeleton is more likely to fail first
>Im not a footfag but
If you have the cash there's no reason to not get standing feet then, even if you plan on never using them having the option can come in handy

>>46698114
if hard feet vs bolts are available it is a best of both worlds albeit a little too hard but sooooo much better than dirty fucked up torn up feet

I'm going to Japan soon. Where are the best/most economical onahole stores in Tokyo I can pick up before I head back. Also any other reccomendations of things I should bring back with me. Thanks,

>>46697562
>>46697442
Yes i mean TPE, sorry should have stated. Im not ever going to consider silicone dolls because the only toy i had that was silicone sucked

>>46691109
I thought mostly only old ladies had this kids of doll.

>>46698539
Silicone is a superior material but you be you.

>>46698539
ass will slap and should have oral. detail will greatly suffer. makeup must be re-applied. durability will be 1-3 years with heavy use vs 4-8 years. tpe will be blissful.

>>46698697
Very nice

>>46698675
>vs 4-8 years
until the skeleton catastrophically breaks at the 2.5 year mark because that just happens sometimes