wait, THAT's how you're supposed to deal with no safety gunz?
>>61424704Yeah the French did the same thing for a really long time too.
It does have a safety tho; there's a half-cock position you can lower the hammer onto.
>>61424704well there is half cocked if you wanna get technical
>>61424704get a DA/SA with a decocker. it's not a big deal.
>>61424755>decockerI don't like the sound of that at all...
>>61424772Well, the russians are a bunch of degenerate trannies and faggots.
>>61424712Mag safety too. At least my yugo does.
>see person I need to shoot>draw pistol without chambered round >awkward to draw gun and rack slide>person is able to grab my arm>no longer able to chamber a round>other guy gets a free gunIsraeli carry is a fucking stupid idea unless the person attacking you gives you time to ready your pistol. As a side note you won’t be in a good shooting stance either, and you may not be able to get a perfect grip on your gun. So if you have a gun that doesn’t work well in those conditions you would want to reconsider.
>>61425591Israeli carry made sense in a time with no or unreliable safetiesThat's why revolvers were more popular back then
>>61425738I question the usefulness of the Glock-style trigger safeties that have become so popular as compared to no safety at all.
>>61425591>>other guy gets a free gunAh, but it's a shitty gun, thus limiting the extent of their victory.
>>61425591And that's why they went with the Makarov and its decocker safety
>>61425835The point is they are drop safe. As long as you have trigger discipline and a quality holster the gun is safe.
>>61425835It's okay unless you put some hair trigger in it, which everyone ends up doing
>>61424813Only the Yugos do AFAIK; the proper TTs don't have it.
>>61425891That's why I only carry my 45. Keep that shit cocked and locked, and I don't have any worries with the thumb safety on even with my gut depressing the grip safety. 25 years it's been pointed at my nuts and I'm still good to shoot loads from both my boys at a moments notice. Shooting your nuts off is probably a selling point to Glocktrannies.
>>61425591Israeli carry was a response to the fact that the IDF had a myriad of pistols in inventory- Hi Powers, P-38's, 1911's, Tokarevs, various walthers and browning. The best way to economically train a conscript force like the IDF was loaded mag empty chamber, safety off - draw, rack while drawing, shoot.It reduced pistol training to the most basic form and stopped people from shooting themselves
what are you supposed to do when you're done shooting? lower the hammer with your finger?
>>61425591>need to shoot someone within the next 500 ms or I'm deador>shoot myself in the balls by accidentOne of those is significantly more likely to happen.
>>61427055You do know that 50% of /k believes it is the former and not the latter, right
>>61424704>this is your mind on niggerskekivan say when time to fight you load pistola, no need safety
>>61427055yeah, the former, because I carry a DA/SA and am not a knuckledragging mouthbreather.>>61427119>I'm too stupid to avoid shooting my nuts offweird self own but ok
works great when every soldier has its gun and the political commissar has bullet. the east manages better again)))))
>>61425835Striker fired pistols have a vulnerability that requires them to have the dingus to be drop safe due to the linear motion of the striker. The hammer fired guns don't which is why they've been drop safe for 100 years with no trigger dingus. For all intents and purposes besides getting around legalese import restrictions many modern striker fired pistols don't have a safety.
>>61428021I guarantee everyone who has shot their nuts off thought they were smart enough to never make a mistake too
>>61428021>weird self own but okSome might argue it's not a matter of stupidity, but rather, subconscious desire
>>61424704My M&P2 had no safety on it either, yes you are expected to simply not load or at least not rack the gun until you need it
>>61431788No, it has a trigger safety like a Glock, and you can get an M&P with a thumb safety, but it's not necessary.
This makes a lot of sense actually, carrying cocked and locked is only important when you're scared of being shot by niggers at any moment and you're also scared about getting your ass reamed out by pigs if you draw too early. In literally any other scenario, you could preemptively draw and rack your pistol upon entering an unsafe area or situation.
>>61424813Carrying with a chambered round but the mag removed as to engage the safety is utterly esoteric behavior but I approve.
>>61429513A grip safety is considerably less obnoxious imo. I’ve got two non glock striker guns, one with an manual safety and one with a manual safety, grip safety, and mag safety for some reason and both totally prevent the striker from being dropped when at least one is engaged.
>>61424704Bruh, ehat even is this manga? It's deranged.
>>61424704Jesus dude dont live your life afraid of NDs, you get used to them. First time>At friends apartment at college.>Just bought my first pistol from a gun show (I was 18)>Drinking with friends>Show them my new Jericho>Try to manually decock>Thumb slips on hammer, ND into celling Upstairs neighbors too high and drunk (underage and illegal drugs) to call the police.Second time>At range>Showing friend pistol>Think gun is unloaded>Point at ground show him how to wrack and pull the trigger.>Forgot loaded mag in>Shoot between his feetThird time>At parents house.>Just bought a sig from a guy>Get home>Try swapping slides with another sig I had>Forgot the other sig slide was chambered.>Pull trigger>Shoot parents wallFourth time>At my new house>Playing with a friend's 5.56 AK>Release bolt>Slam fires round into groundFifth time>Showing a friend how to use it>No idea how but a round got chambered>Show him how the trigger works>Pull trigger>Shoots round into floor in the same place as beforeSixth time>Thought maybe the house was haunted>Grab a sig>Physically clear it, (racked the slide 3 times) with no magazine in pull trigger at the same hole>Round goes offSeventh time>Friend brings over a used>Glock wants me to look over it>I grab it and pull the trigger without clearing it>Didn't even realize the thing was loaded.Eighth time>Friend brings over his transferable Mac 10>I had no idea how open bolt guns worked.>He's showing it off to me I put a loaded mag it and decided to try and release the bolt (I thought it shot from a closed bolt)>Pulled the trigger for some reason>Shot 3 rounds into my wallOverall you shouldn't feel too bad about NDs. It's part of owning guns, and you should get used to them.
>>61434360this, anyone acting like they haven't ND 12 times is clearly a liar and a noguns
>>61434389>anyone acting like they haven't ND 12 timesEvery morning. In the shower.>I was just cleaning it and it went off.
>>61434360You shouldn't be allowed to own guns
>>61434360Haven't seen this one in a while
>>61434360Go suck a niggers DICK you god damn fuckin high pitched voiced piece of human garbage
>>61435356>>61435169
>>61424704you're supposed to leave one chamber empty, then when you cock the hammer a loaded chamber comes into place.
>>61435356you failure of a retard. It's an obvious joke. Only a complete moron would think it's serious.
>>61425835There's two separate factors that make a Glock trigger "safe".The striker isn't fully set back, that's why the trigger is long almost like a DA one. It's no more dangerous than a loaded revolver.In addition to the longer trigger pull, the trigger safety itself protects the trigger from moving due to inertia from dropping, as the smaller plastic leaver is too light to overcome the spring. It also protects the trigger from being depressed by something partially rubbing against the side of the trigger such as clothing.And this is why Glock triggers feels like shit.
>>61434360send this to guntubers, reading it will kill them
>>61435469There's nothing funny about negligently discharging your firearm.
>>61434360
>>61434360updated version where
>>61435516If guntubers haven't already seen that, they have no business being guntubers>>61435516
>>61435528(you) don't find them funny, comedy is subjective
It's a nice way of saying that they don't have enough ammunition or weapons to give everyone charging the Germans a gun, but they ALWAYS have enough bullets to shoot unarmed children in the back of the head because their parents owned a bakery and weren't Jewish.
>>61425591You wouldn't be shooting people with it in combat per se
>>61433758Witch Vasenka's War>In WW2 trad russian witch from Babayaga's house and her jew NKVD escort officer fight Fascist Invaders using folktale magic creaturesThe artist is a jap who is a weeb for WW2 soviet gear and folklore.
>>61435503why does glock-shit need a trigger safety if a revolver doesn't?
>>61425591This is why revolvers and 1911s will always be better than the Tokarev
>>61440370What about a 1911 chambered in 7.62×25mm? I always figured it would be the perfect combination.
>>61424704So "Isreali Carry" is really just WW2 Soviet Carry.>is there anything (((they))) don't steal?
>>61424704no boollet in the chamber, gun no shootsimple as
