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Have you made the pilgrimage to British /k/'s mecca, OP?

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>>61427601
for me, it's the 22 lr sniper subsonic

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>>61427851
Actually I'm an American LARPing as a Brit lol; thanks to Navy arms I now have a Brit proofed 10/22. Sad I know. I just have a thing for hunting guns set up for a specific period and/or from specific part of the world, like a poorfag safari rifle collection but mostly old junky 22s. I've been looking for an old 80s/90s Made in England BSA scope to chuck on it to complete the look; they really didn't get over here to the US before they were just turned into a cheap Made in China scope company. I think it's all the old gun magazines I'd see here and there before being hasguns and the vintage ones I had bought when my only gun was a .22 that made me like this. They always had some interesting hunting rifle set up in some neat way on the front. For me it's fun to screw with vintage .22s like this for some reason.

>>61428113
>Brit proofed 10/22
You mean to tell me that thing is cycled manually?

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>>61428158
No, I mean it has British proofmarks. It traveled from the US, to Britain, and back to the US in 20-some years.

>>61428176
>to and fro Great Britain
That's sort of cool, I wonder how it groups

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My 10/22 started taking tren

>>61427601
has anyone built one of the brownells 10/22 out?

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>>61425034
Weird man I dunno, but clearly there's some kind of production difference and I don't think it's along sub/supersonic lines. Maybe along date lines idk.

Here are the other two greasy af loads I have, both made by Ruag same as the Norma. Same thing, DUNKED in yellow goop. These are several years older than the Norma so it's been going on for awhile.

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>>61428188
Haven't been able to test that; needs a scope for my awful eyes. It looks like it's been through quite a lot lol. The mag release looks like someone took a brillo pad to it to put fake wear on it; it's that worn in. Just dull silver in the middle. Wood is in decent shape. Rail has some wear on it as does every sharp edge of the gun. Has two patches of sticker residue on the right side of the stock about 1.5"x1"; maybe someone could look at auction houses like Holt's over there and see if that's where they came from. Considering there were a couple others in the same config, no rail, I want to say it was a shooting range owned gun or something unless that was a popular model and no one put scopes on them (there was a scoped Marlin the next time I looked IIRC). The others were obviously hunting guns; one was painted green and not factory threaded but threaded by a smith by cutting half the front sight block away. This one was factory threaded (!) in the mid 90s and is threaded 1/2x20. We wouldn't get a threaded model until way later AFAIK, and obviously in 1/2x28 instead. The bolt is really nicely polished and the action is very very smooth. The trigger is heavy as fuck though and I've played with a handful of other 10/22s of various ages over the past couple years. Probably the heaviest trigger I've found on one, but minimal travel or creep. Absolutely the loudest one of them all too. Bolt closes louder. Hammer drop is louder. Maybe it has aftermarket springs in it, I don't know.

Pic is the muzzle of my 10/22 carbine I hunt with (with protector, now with silencer) and the 1/2x20 muzzle of the "British" 10/22. Way longer threaded portion. Maybe I'll throw my old hunting scope on that one. I kind of want to chuck a Leupold on it but I'm not sure it's worth another $270-300 scope and I really don't want to chuck a scope that expensive on dovetail rings lol. Maybe I'll wait for one of my favorite vintage scopes to show up used.

My 10/22 is 30 years old and hasn’t been cleaned once while in my possession. It loves the dirtiest steel case .22

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>>61428288
Fair dinkum, give her much TLC as she needs until that period-correct scope arrives

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With this one simple trick I will turn my Henry AR7 into an almost usable AR7 <under NODS>

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>>61428350
>dirtiest steel case .22
They still make steel cased Junior and Vostok?!

>>61428088
I fucking love those

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>>61428391
Might be a while. I hunt anywhere people sell used junk and auctions but the prices or condition often leave something to be desired. No random guy who obviously knows nothing about guns or owns any and has no-name 60s Japanese scopes mixed in with dirty rusty tools , I am not buying a scope that looks like it came out of a scrapyard for $50. And I refuse to spend $50+ on semi-common lower end scopes, even those that look good; weird things happen inside used scopes for no apparent reason. Most I ever spent on a scope used was probably $35-40 for a Weaver K-10. Maybe I should put THAT on my 10/22, LOL. Can you imagine this fucking thing on a 10/22?

>>61428447
Idk if they still make it but I’ve still got tons of it

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WranglerChads how are we doing?

I need some inspiration for a 22lr host. Something very lightweight like the Ruger American Rimfire but I hate those triggers with the dingus on it. I guess Tikka is a good upgrade. Anything I am missing?

>>61428820
I am thinking of selling my Super Wrangler and buying a Heritage.

Is there some way to make the hammer spring as light as a Heritage? if not, shes got to go

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A Ruger 10/22 with a folding stock and a binary trigger is a valid home defense weapon, change my mind.

>>61428530
>I hunt anywhere people sell used junk and auctions but the prices or condition often leave something to be desired.
Local auctions are a good place to browse. I've gotten some cheap mags there and see some other neat stuff pop up every now and then.

>>61428914
Man I still need a binary 10/22 trigger.

>>61427851
>British /k/
Ukraine war threads?

>>61430285
That would explain all the NoGunz/anti-2A in there, but I'd like to think not

>>61427851
I can't take this goober seriously after watching him attempt to actually shoot guns

>>61430535
Same, but at the same time, almost literally no one owns guns in his country and they're just outright not allowed handguns, so it's not like he could reasonably be expected to have any skill

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Winchester M1906 from 1914, refurbished by some gunsmith. The rifling was completely shot out when I got it, so I had it relined with cold-forged competition liner. I'm a shit shot, and I shoot 1 inch groups at 50 yards with it.

>>61430573
>The rifling was completely shot out when I got it
simply a garden gun

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>>61430535
>>61430558
He's a lanky fella confined to an indoor range, cut him some slack

>>61430582
no

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>>61430147
I had a lot of trouble with the Franklin Amory one. I recommend getting the trigger pack with it pre-installed. I got the trigger by itself and could not get it to work. Got their trigger pack body kit and that didn't work either. I ended up having to send it in for them to fix something on it and it seems okay now, but I think a lot of time would've been saved just getting the pre-installed pack itself.

>>61427851
I was in the UK twice last year, but that museum is kind of a bitch to get to. Would have been three hours driving, much more on the train. I really wanted to, but getting around the UK is a real cunt.

>>61430583
>confined to an indoor range
he can only shoot those once or twice for the video. As a whole the UK is /k/'s antithesis.

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>>61431535
>arduous even inside the country
Unfortunate
>>61431749
>As a whole the UK
Doesn't Northern Ireland issue concealed carry permits? If nothing else, the /k/ontents of the Royal Armouries are invaluable to preservation efforts

I regret getting a Bersa in 22lr, I want this gun to be reliable so bad.

>>61431516
I just wish it weren't $215. I didn't even spend that on every single one of my Volquartsen upgrades to my 10/22 lol. Shit you could get Kidd polished trigger guts for $127. A target hammer, sear, and trigger from Volquartsen is $130. Or you could get a whole TG2000 group from Volquartsen for $296. And Ruger's impressive BX trigger is only $60. I get it's a novelty but damn the semi trigger better be good lol. For the rare times I would (and could) use it, it just isn't worth $200 to me considering Ruger's cheapest 10/22, model 1151, is only $49 more...

>>61432015
>Doesn't Northern Ireland issue concealed carry permits?
in extremely rare cases, it's not a shall issue

>>61432725
>Apply for firearm license
>Write, "I want to be the very best target/competition shooter like no one ever was" in the "reason" section
>No reason the police would object to this
>Purchase pistols with new license
>Conceal carry it, permit be damned
>In the even of Muslim assault (unlikely in Northern Ireland), best to ask forgiveness rather than permission
And that is how to win back The West

>>61432100
Damn that's sucks that it isn't reliable. Not even with higher power good ammo? Bersa's have a nice look

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>>61432969
well of course not, it's a piece of shit Bersa

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Love me .22's, simple as

Is there an aftermarket stock for the 10/22 that gives an option for 1913 picatinny stocks? I was thinking of a lightweight build with a folding metal stock.

>>61433255
IIRC a lot of the chassis do. 50/50 buffer tube/pic stock.

>>61427601
BANANA CAMO

How long are mini mags going to stay at 7.3c per round?
Should I buy as much as I can now?

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>>61435682
The next cheapest is 8.5 cpr, so it's already artificially go time lol

I wouldn't predict we're going to have another 2012 (insanely inflated prices due to false scarcity, DHS gobbling up billions of rounds causing ammo production diversion, and threats of bans) or another 2018 (massive rebates and 10-year lows due to Trump Slump [no threat of bans subsequent to massive Obama era price hikes result in low sales, companies panic to move stagnant inventory that had been over-produced to meet ~2012-2016 demand])

The time is so now that I'm about to buy another case against my better judgement and I kind of hate you for bring it to my attention.

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>>61435900
I wish I had that much ammo. I just shoot it too fast lol.

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I've since removed the cheapy scope

>>61438812
Are you using irons or did you find a new "stainless" scope? Not easy to find them. Also highly recommend $30 Leupold rings if you ever replace the scope instead of reusing those you already have. Bad rings make even a good scope bad.

Is it worthwhile to invest in the laser made specific for my sr22?

>>61432100
I considered it and the ppk/s but of sub 500$ external hammer fire pistols I fired the sr22 ended up way more reliable than those two just the finish and sights were fucked from factory when I got one. No wins.

>>61439318
No.

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22lrfags will always cope

>>61439616
wow! .22 mag! or is this 5.7? its all the same to me.

>>61428088
where 2 buy these under 50cpr?
I hear Ack-Gwiluh moved their plant so all their specialty stuff is on hold for a bit longer

got my first 22. havent shot yet. hope it like 1600fps ammo cuz i bought some

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>>61440319
>1600 fps
What is that spicy?

>>61440242
It's rimmed and has a shorter bullet, so looks like .17 Hornady to me.

>>61440381
CCI Stinger
copper plated HP 32g 1640fps

>>61435682 here

Just bought 15k minimags godspeed

>>61440381
heres a video shooting the exact ammo out of a 21A. Havent finished yet, but apparently the Stingers are not so good in the 21A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpVpv2OxaXA

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>>61428914
>Not shooting 22 elr out of it
Do you even self defense anon?

>>61433067
nice weihrauch, in .22 too i assume? have you taken any game with it?

>>61442887
>For those looking to step past 500 and truly stretch the capabilities of this tiny round, the 42- and 50-grain options are the ticket, though they’ll require a faster twist. The 42-grain will need to be spun by a 1/10 or faster, while the 50-grain will need a minimum of 1/7 twist. And as luck would have it, Bartlien did a custom run of barrels for Defensive Solutions who can spin one up for your next .22 ELR Rig.
>While the CuRx line isn’t yet offered in a loaded, off-the-shelf configuration, Cutting Edge Bullets is selling brass and bullet packages so you can roll your own. Their bundles include 200 bullets and the corresponding primed brass. Dies are sold separately and a simple single-stage press and scale is all that’s required to be on your way to sending tiny pieces of copper down range.
nigga I ain't handloading .22lr but that is neat

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>>61439616
whats the point in destroying perfectly good meat like that? 22lrGODS eat good

>>61428088
Just a shame you can't find them and no one makes 1:9 barrels except for 10/22. I don't want to shoot them out of a 10/22, case is too short for semi auto and they breathe fire out the breach

>>61438594
How do you like the goofy folding one? I want but they're a bit expensive for a kinda silly gimmick

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For me, it's the Henry Frontier.

>>61446446
The Ounce I love, but not at all as a practical gun. It's just super weird and unique

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My favorite gun. But I really want a ruger mk iv

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i need more 22

>>61449004
nice mkiv. thinking of getting one but damn it do I really want to build a threaded mkii upper...

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>>61442934
It's .177 and all I do is ravage the various tin cans and buckets I set up outside from off the deck. Massive fun.

>>61448122
Definitely my attraction to it as well. $800 is just a tough pill to swallow for a .22 plinker I can't suppress

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>>61450957
Yeah, hopefully if the company's not out of business in a few years they can drop the price but given the insane complexity of the thing I doubt it. Unless they can leverage 3D printing or something, then turning out these receivers would become trivial.

>>61446496
>Frontier
>FLAT RANGE
gtfo into the woods or something, damn

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>>61446496
Been considering this thing speaking of Henry but man...eventually, maybe.

Can I put a Tomcat Slide on a Bobcat. with the goal of fitting a longer barrel.

>>61442518
that has to be the most convoluted and needlessly heavy way to make a drum mag

>>61427851
I hate this sarmy faggot. He talks as if his book eduction makes him superior to any practical experience (of which he has none)

>>61428158
Rimfire semi auto .22 calibers are legal in the UK

>>61452651
it does, if a man can tell you exactly why everything is the way it is and can cross reference actual pipe hitters and not range bitches shooting franken guns (which you are) he knows more than you.

>>61438812
Beautiful stock

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>>61452038
What are you hoping to achieve by swapping the slide with one that doesn't fit?

>>61452733
He reads books and works in a room full of firearms he cant shoot. Then acts like he's the subject matter expert on anything firearms related.
Ian Mc Collum does better firearms videos in the UK than this guy does.
>range bitches shooting franken guns
I'm in an infantry unit, so do proper live fire training with automatic rifles, machine guns and grenades. And I also have a collection of civilian firearms that I use for hunting and clay shooting. So 100% more practical experience than the guy who sits in his gun basement releasing reaction videos on YouTube

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>>61452656
With three-round magazines, I would imagine
>>61452904
But he does shoot
>acts like he's the subject matter expert on anything firearms related
Jonathan voices the limits of his expertise all the time
>Ian Mc Collum does better
Yeah, but he's a scummy merchant
>100% more practical experience
OK, but his title isn't "expert shooter" nor "tactician" and he can (probably) identify more weapons and their history than you can, which is sort of the point of curation

>>61453011
There's no limit on mag sizes for firearms in UK, only for the lower tier shotgun license which is limited to 2+1.
>shoots indoor benchrest at 25m
Wow

>>61453395
>no limit on mag sizes for firearms in UK
Then how is the SMLE banned
>shoots indoor benchrest at 25m
That's better than nothing and makes him the most qualified non-combatant in England

>>61452855
isnt that 22 short? and wouldnt that be why the longer barrel works?

what im hoping to achieve is increased slide mass to compensate for the longer bullet dwell time in a longer barrel.

I want to basically make a 22LR version of the pic you posted.

>swapping the slide with one that doesn't fit?
like not even close?

>>61427601
Is the Chiappa Little Badger a good choice? I scoffed at it but a ~$120 upgrade kit from Otterman makes it actually seem really appealing. Also, what's the most recommended cheap red dot for .22 here? I was looking at a Crimson Trace cheap dot, I mean shit it's a .22 I don't need an Aimpoint.

>>61430535
He's literally done a good service for America's continued gun rights by getting kid's interested in them with the video game gun videos he hosts. Fuck you

>>61452904
Go figure a ZOGbot would be an uppity faggot

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>>61453647
It's not banned you baiting retard, I've got one

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>>61453995
I want to believe that's true and so I will

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Just purchased a 10/22. Now I have a .22 bolt gun, semi, and revolver. Have to wait 3 days thanks to this gay state ofc

What's a good .22 bolt action with iron sights to plink with? Modern production, as much as i'd like an army trainer it's too much $$$

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>>61456281
Romanian trainer is cheap and really accurate with irons. I spent 150 on one at a gun show a few weeks ago.
Alternatively you can look for an old sears rifle. Those are typically under 300.

>>61456438
>Romanian trainer is cheap and really accurate with irons.
Damn, really? That's awesome that's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks, anon.

God I want a model 3. I'm hooked on czechnology.

>>61457035
when i wikipedia "model 3" the closest I get to what I think you are talking about is a Smith&Wesson revolver. However, it does not list 22LR as a cartridge. Further, the word "czech" is nowhere in the article.

So please, as someone who has no idea what you are talking about; what are you talking about.

I ask because I am czech-american, but I am 3rd generation, so I dont know much about czech firearms beyond cz. but, I want to start collecting them.

sorry if im saying something offensive, but i wanna buy something like pic related, and cut the barrel down to something that makes mores sense for the rimfire cartridges it shoots. Would probably be looking for 17 HMR

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>>61458380
and heres the pic.

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>>61458380
BRNO Model 3, the target/match variant of the Model 1 (which I also lust for) from the 50s. Bull barrel, an option for globe front and diopter rear sights and adjustable and/or double set triggers. They're every bit on par with competition .22s of similar vintage from Hammerli/Anschutz/etc.

Examples like picrel are like ~$600 leafbux but $1600+ USD recently because the US stopped trading with Czechoslovakia (and therefore importing CZ/BRNO guns) in the 50s but Canada didn't. You can also pick up the less exotic models of BRNO 22s for >$400 CAD a lot of the time. Every time I'm browsing a forum and hear some Canadian boomer talking about how he picked up an old BRNO .22 for $200 and is going to drill and tap it I want to scream. This is also the case with rifles from Sako/Husqvarna/etc.

>sorry if im saying something offensive, but i wanna buy something like pic related, and cut the barrel down to something that makes mores sense for the rimfire cartridges it shoots. Would probably be looking for 17 HMR
Not offensive but profoundly retarded on both counts. There are a ton of recommendations for good .22s ITT and the barrels on guns tend to be as long as they are for a good reason. As for springing for .17 HMR out of the gate - .22LR is $0.05/rd, match-grade .22LR (which will perform exactly like standard .22LR as far as you're concerned) is ~$0.15/rd, the best .22LR match ammo in the world (see above for effectiveness) is $0.38/rd and .17 HMR AVERAGES ~$0.28/rd. .17 HMR isn't intended or priced for plinking or training, it's a budget varminting cartridge that costs on average almost five times as much as .22LR.

>>61454185
>Being moralized because you can own a 100 year old bolt action
Grim

>>61458743
>So long as, and *only* so long as, you can prove you have an approved range to shoot it on, and a police-inspected safe bolted to your floor to store the gun and your strict allotment of non-expanding ammo

>>61458735
>the barrels on guns tend to be as long as they are for a good reason.
what is the reason? a couple of CZ bolt actions I see are 22" to 25". 22LR velocity flattens out at like 12". Obviously going to 16 or 18" makes sense for legal reason, but what could the point be to go longer? I understand sight radius is a potential reason, but one of the rifles in question doesnt even come with iron sights.

sorry really new to 22LR, not incredibly familiar with it. really have no idea what the point of going longer than 18" could be. and 22 mag flattens out at about 19", so using the same barrel for 22 mag doesnt really make sense as an explanation.

>>61458813
>what is the reason? a couple of CZ bolt actions I see are 22" to 25". 22LR velocity flattens out at like 12". Obviously going to 16 or 18" makes sense for legal reason, but what could the point be to go longer? I understand sight radius is a potential reason, but one of the rifles in question doesnt even come with iron sights.
Because you get different effects from different barrel lengths and throats and twist rates interacting with different ammunition (which use different propellants, bullets, cases, etc.) and because hand-loading is out of the question those characteristics rely exclusively on the interaction of the chosen ammunition with the pressure-bearing components of the firearm. It's not like shooting centerfire where you can dial in your loads to the gun you have. For plinking or even most rimfire hunting situations this is largely semantic but for precision shooting (including varminting) it matters a lot and most of these guns pull double duty as target and hunting models.

Having a longer barrel is also the safest bet for reliability, as ammunition can (intentionally or otherwise) have slower or faster burn rates as well as cheap ammo often being out of spec and performing better in longer barrels where it has more engagement with the rifling. There are also non-ballistic concerns that are affected by barrel length, like the weight, balance, appearance and cost (both to produce and to the consumer) of the rifle.

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>>61458743
Laws are shit but the population as a whole don't care so they aren't changing. The firearms community in the Uk is 80% Fudds who only use a double barrel once a year who will happily let everything else get bannes, undiagnosed skitzos and autists who embody every bad idea of weirdo gun owners and the remaining 10% are normal people.

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>>61432983
Their .380's are reliable. but yeh ive heard nothing good about their 22lr's.

>>61459171
I hear you. I'm a leaf, the people are only now starting to care thanks to gun culture 2.0 in the States. For decades we were on the decline, only now do we have a mainstream party poised to win the next election promising to bring back AR15s

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>>61459193
You've got space and wilderness in Canada, that just doesn't exist in the UK. Even the national parks are owned by multiple private land holders and filled with tourists so you can't even try and shoot on the sly. I'm lucky in that I've got 200-3000 acres of farmland I've got permission to shoot on, but even then I e got to be carefully because there's houses and roads next to all of it.
So shooting is pretty limited to range only days and good luck finding a decent one that will let you in.

>>61459320
>You've got space and wilderness in Canada
The remnants of the frontier mentality are probably the only reason we aren't as far gone as you guys. It's something I'm genuinely thankful for

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>>61459193
>gun culture 2.0
I've heard the terms in passing but never actually seen it spelled out.
If I'm understanding the subtext right 1.0 was pre-80's "guns as tools" (fudd stuff and sporting), 2.0 was 80's to 00's "guns as entertainment" (action films, guntubers like FPSRussia, and early /k/ militaria autism, and 3.0 is post-10's "guns as political means" (Grey-man stuff and serious, self sufficient, militia prep).

>>61462683
GWOT and call of duty saved guns unironically.

>>61462358
That soda fucking sucks

>>61463468
so does the gun, almost as dogshit as the sig mosquito

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>>61463468
Yeah it was unpleasantly acrid lol. Starlight was IT but they nuked that too and put "Spiced" into permanent production even though nobody asked for it and it's the worst flavor they've ever had lol

>>61463508
That was the old version, not the P22Q

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>>61463638
Where was this deal?

>>61463638
I did not f around on that lol I wasn't planning to buy ammo for awhile but welp.

>>61464469
TargetSports. It was CCI Minimag. CCI SV is 7.1-7.6 cpr with free shipping for what it's worth, usually it's around 8 cpr

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>>61453874
You need to hit the range more Jon

>>61458813
>>61458935
My 22" barrel bolt action .22lr is whisper quiet compared to any 16"~20" 10/22.
Never knew if it was the action, or barrel length, but I really think it's the barrel reducing the pressure so much. It might even be 24". I forget. It's almost 100 years old

>>61458791
>So long as, and *only* so long as, you can prove you have an approved range to shoot it on
Incorrect. You can use a .22LR semi-auto rifle for vermin control.

>>61459171
>The firearms community in the Uk is 80% Fudds who only use a double barrel once a year
Wrong. More people use shotguns for clay shooting than game shooting. There's over 500k shotgun licences in the UK

>>61468881
>There's over 500k shotgun licences in the UK
This is even less impressive when you realize that it's the individual guns that are licensed, there isn't even close to that number of gun owners

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>>61468873
>Incorrect. You can use a .22LR semi-auto rifle for vermin control.
But do you have a loicense to control this vermin? And a loicense for each shell that you intend to discharge? What about a loicense for dead vermin disposal?

>>61468873
Ah yes, for all ten people in the UK who need to control vermin

>>61468967
>do you have a loicense to control this vermin?
You need to give the police a "good reason" to own a rifle in the UK, so yes, he unironically does have a vermin control loicense

>>61468956
>This is even less impressive when you realize that it's the individual guns that are licensed, there isn't even close to that number of gun owners
Also wrong. The certificate is per shooter. I have three on mine

>>61468967
I realise that you are an uneducated American trying to take the piss, but in the interest of education I will answer you. I, as a holder of both UK shotgun and FAC, accept we are far more regulated than you, but the idea you can't own guns in the UK is ludicrous
>But do you have a loicense to control this vermin?
Two things are becoming conflated.You don't need a licence to control vermin as long as you have the landowner's permission. If you control it with an air rifle then that's all you need. If you use a .22LR then you will need to have vermin control as a reason on your FAC. If you want something larger, like a .22-250 for fox then the same applies, except the ground needs to be cleared for the calibre or you need what's called an "open" certificate.
>And a loicense for each shell that you intend to discharge?
There is no control over airgun ammunition. On your FAC there will be a permission to buy quantity and a permission to store quantity, which will be higher. Other than that you're good to go and can shoot as many as you like
> What about a loicense for dead vermin disposal?
No. If it's a rabbit then you can take them and cook them, or give them away, or feed them to your dogs. You can't sell them to the public without a game licence, but you can sell them to a registered game dealer. That's a "food safety" thing.

>>61468985
>Ah yes, for all ten people in the UK who need to control vermin
You'd be surprised. I have my .22 for vermin control - mainly rats, squirrels and rabbits. Many farmers will use small bore rifles for vermin control.

>>61469217
>uneducated American
Are you implying that Americans should be expected to know all the ins and outs of horrific bong gun law?

>>61469252
No. But I would expect shooters to treat other shooters with some respect and ask, rather than simply believing and parroting the uneducated opinions of the likes of Fox News.

Fun fact: you can own a .50 cal in the UK. There is even a club for it. The main problem, in this crowded little island, is having the space to safely shoot the likes of .50 cal, or .338 Lapua

>>61469217
>Two things are becoming conflated.You don't need a license to control vermin as long as you have the landowner's permission. If you control it with an air rifle then that's all you need. If you use a .22LR then you will need to have vermin control as a reason on your FAC. If you want something larger, like a .22-250 for fox then the same applies, except the ground needs to be cleared for the calibre or you need what's called an "open" certificate.
Air rifles aren't guns, though some of them are cool
>There is no control over airgun ammunition. On your FAC there will be a permission to buy quantity and a permission to store quantity, which will be higher. Other than that you're good to go and can shoot as many as you like
So you have to get a loicense for ammo (meaning real ammo, not airgun stuff)?
>No. If it's a rabbit then you can take them and cook them, or give them away, or feed them to your dogs. You can't sell them to the public without a game licence, but you can sell them to a registered game dealer. That's a "food safety" thing.
Surprisingly based. I assumed if you poach the King's rats you get thrown in the dungeon to be eaten by corgis

>>61431749
UK actually stands for "Un-/k/"

>>61469282
>Air rifles aren't guns
An interesting debating point. My .22 air rifle has to be on a FAC and is classed in the UK as a "firearm" because of the muzzle energy
>So you have to get a loicense for ammo
No, not a separate one. Ammunition is listed on your FAC and your requirements will be discussed at the time of application or variation. If you have a rifle you need ammunition for it

>>61469282
(cont)
>I assumed if you poach the King's rats you get thrown in the dungeon to be eaten by corgis
When I shoot rats or squirrels I just chuck them in the nearest hedge for the local corvids or foxes

>>61468741
have you ever had or heard of any 22LR ammo not making it out of a long barrel?

>>61471268
NTA but no. Maybe to someone else but never me. I think I shot Colibris, forget whether super or not, out of a 26" barrel. Might've been Quiets. Been a while.

Best 22 for use with a can?
Best barrel length for "long" range shenanigans? I was shooting ELR recently and we were trying to push a 10/22 with a cheap POS optic out as far as possible, and were pretty much hard-capped at 300m on 1moa targets (3" diam) because it physically was off the bottom of the optic even at low mag.
It'd be fun to push it even farther if possible without spending an extortionate amount of money.

>>61472970
>I shot Colibris, forget whether super or not
My first attempt with Colibris indicated checking the bbl for obstruction was prudent. It was clear. Man the regulars are quiet, like a finger snap.

>>61473005
>best
That's extremely opinion based. I like my silenced 10/22 though.
>Barrel length
Probably like 16-20" for speed. That doesn't really mean it'll be "better" for accuracy though. Go get a quality barrel brand. If you're going to go super autistic with a 10/22, maybe go get a Kidd, Volquartsen, or Clark Custom bolt with a nice machined face. And get a competition/target chamber in that barrel and...($5000 later...not that I'd know or anything, hunting with a $1600+ 10/22 that still has a stock barrel)
https://youtu.be/xB6izQ8bkq8?t=232
>and were pretty much hard-capped at 300m on 1moa targets (3" diam) because it physically was off the bottom of the optic even at low mag.
??? IIRC I was at 300yds and I was shooting a 12" plate at 3-4x no problem. Pretty low in my scope sure but not out of the scope. Also sounds like you need a "drooper" rail (canted down x MOA) if you want to shoot that thing mostly long range as it will prevent that "not in my sight" issue:
https://egwguns.com/ruger-10-22-picatinny-rail-20-moa
https://egwguns.com/ruger-10-22-picatinny-rail-30-moa
https://egwguns.com/ruger-10-22-picatinny-rail-40-moa

>>61473045
Just wait until you shoot it silenced lol. STUPID QUIET. I'm trying to build a second silenced 10/22 for just subs.

>>61473078
Small plate and we were shooting subs, and yeah it was an airsoft-tier optic just mounted directly on

>>61473201
Oh yeah subs that doesn't help the drop issue lol. I was shooting ~1280fps IIRC.

>>61473078
thanks for that vid. did not expect those results.

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Does anyone know if you can retrofit a mag to those mosin single shots? they're super cute but if it's possible to easily retrofit something I'd be more inclined

>>61474984
I mean I bet if you had a drill press you could bore out channel to jam an old single-stack pistol mag in it. You'd have to have it lined up just right, and add in a feed ramp I imagine. but unless you're damned skilled and have access to a machine shop you're not going to replicate a scaled down version of the mosin-nagant's real magazine

>>61469217
I thought the UK was super strict about "vermin control", like the bit on Clarkson's Farm where they weren't allowed to kill badgers on their property?

>>61475221
>I thought the UK was super strict about "vermin control", like the bit on Clarkson's Farm where they weren't allowed to kill badgers on their property?
We are, but the key word there is "vermin". Under UK law a badger isn't vermin, it's a protected species.

Anything designated vermin is basically open season. Examples would be rats, most small rodents, grey (but not red) squirrels, feral cats (but not wild cats, which are a protected species), rabbits and foxes. Birds are generally protected, except there are annual "general licences" for designated pest bird species. There is a regime you are supposed to go through before you can resort to shooting them. Game birds, like pheasant, grouse, partridge, woodcock, etc. are also covered by a specific general licence.

You do have to take into consideration other wildlife-type legislation, such as the type and use of snares or traps, and whether you are causing unnecessary suffering as that can attract prosecution under animal cruelty laws.

There are also laws about having permission to access land, as "armed trespass" is a significant criminal offence., plus making sure any ammunition does not fall onto other people's property.

It is a fairly complex legal landscape, which UK shooters and pest controllers have to be aware of - but then that's just being a responsible shooter on a small, densely populated and largely urban island

>>61475330
Well, that all sounds completely nightmarish

>>61475362
If you mean we can't simply shoot anything that moves then, well, you're right. Many reasons why we are where we are, but there's no point railing against it - we just have to work within it while doing what we can to stop things getting worse.

90% of the UK population doesn't give a fig about shooting, and a significant proportion of those cannot understand why anyone should have a gun and believes they should all be banned.

>>61475383
Yeah, grim.
I mean, it's not like wildlife isn't regulated here in the states, but thats largely for formal hunting to prevent poaching. If something wanders onto your property though it's free real estate.
There are protected birds under the Migratory Bird Act, but again that's largely to prevent poaching. If you kill some random goose that invaded your yard nobody will know or care.

>>61475406
>If you kill some random goose that invaded your yard nobody will know or care.
Similar here. If it's within season and a designated game species (some wildfowl are protected) then I can take anything on or over my property. Pheasant wanders onto my property between September and end of January? Lunch if I want it.

>>61475383
>there's no point railing against it
Railing against it is what eventually brings change. If you just shut up and accept it then lawmakers have no incentive to even think about it. Guns would still be registered in leafistan if we hadn't railed against it.

>>61475470
I think a big part of the problem is the Brits don't have a modern martial history. I know we burgers constantly mock you Canucks but Canadians have way more hunters and shooters (proportionally) than anywhere in Europe by a significant margin.

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>>61475487
>I know we burgers constantly mock you Canucks
The banter is half the fun of being neighbours, burgerbro

>>61475470
>If you just shut up and accept it then lawmakers have no incentive to even think about it.
There are no votes in the UK for deregulating firearms of any type. We have the insanity that our Olympic pistol shooters have to train overseas, but moves to amend the legislation had the city-dwellers up in arms (pun intended). So "railing" won't achieve anything here - we just have to keep lobbying. We are currently having a battle against the banning of lead shot.

>>61475529
>We are currently having a battle against the banning of lead shot
Like completely banning it, or just for hunting? We banned lead shot for hunting migratory birds in North America a while back. There are useable alternatives to lead

>>61475581
>Like completely banning it, or just for hunting?
There's the battle. Currently it looks like hunting, but the government wants to move against lead for clay and target shooting too, using the toxicity of lead as a driver. Even though there is no viable alternative, they're also trying to include airgun pellets.

This was all started under the EU, but the UK government is keeping it going. We already have a ban on shooting lead over wetlands, and many game dealers will no longer take game shot with lead ammunition as the supermarkets won't stock it.

There are usable alternatives to lead, mainly "steel", or more exotic materials like bismuth. But this type of ammunition could render classic English game guns unusable (cost or proof)

>>61428088
i got 2 boxes of these for like $8 each a while ago and i don't think they've made any in a long time since the stock is just drying up

has anybody chrono'd it out of a 2 or 3 inch barrel? out of a 5 inch pistol these this ammo is like 750 fps so it's probably completely useless out of a snubnose pistol but it would be really funny if it had more energy than 25 acp just due to mass alone

>>61475167
yeah, my idea was to just use some Saturday night special magazine.

>>61476080
just so you know it's just a cricket single shot rifle in a mosin-looking stock, so after working the bolt you then have to cock it. for $400 you could find a real mosin, so unless you're dead set on it it seems kinda pointless to me

I got a mag fed marlin xt-22 that needs a new stock. Since marlin never really had much aftermarket support, finding a wood xt stock is near impossible. Anyone know of any older marlin b/a .22 wood stocks that would fit it? Like a model 25, or 925/980?

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has anybody fucked around with pic related? Seems neat, but getting a stamp for a suppressor that can only be used on one (technically two) firearms seems kinda silly

>>61474984
>they're super cute but if it's possible to easily retrofit something I'd be more inclined
It bugs me because they do make a mag fed rifle. I've thought about it myself.

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>>61477414
Piggybacking off that, has anyone ever bought the Ruger Silent SR? Seems like such an odd thing to buy since I'm sure it's not the "best" silencer out there even for the price. Maybe the CS is good and maybe it'd be a good idea to buy one from them since they're more likely to be around 20 years from now than random silencer company 368 but still. I don't think I've ever seen someone with one. I think it's mostly Mask HD and one other. Then again the amount of silencers I own is equal to the amount of silencers I've ever seen at my range so it isn't a good sample size lol.

>>61480031
I know a guy with one. It's surprisingly heavy that's all I can say about it lol. I'd get one if the price is right.

>>61477414
I kinda wish that existed but for a normal non-TD 10/22 even if it'd require me to open up my stock. It's a lot like the Tacsol barrel, only QD. Annoys the shit out of me.

UUUUUU LOOK AT ME RUNNING AROUND NOT LIKE YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WITH A 22 LMAO *DROPS PANTS SHOWS ASS
HAHAH WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO SHOOT ME WITH A 22?

>>61475487
>way more hunters and shooters (proportionally) than anywhere in Europe by a significant margin
that's just because canucks have a shitload of open land. Here where I live almost everyone used to hunt to the point we almost exinted fucking boars before having to import them from east europe. Now less and less people want to hunt since there is more and more red tape around hunting, I myself stopped hunting because during hunting season the woods are so comically crowded that you learn to duck whenever you hear a shot like in a fucking war movie. I remember hearing the whizz and cracks of bullets being fun to hear when I went hunting the first time at 13, but now at 32 haing to pay a shitload of fees and being able to hunt only on certain day to maybe find a smal as fuck buck or boar and on top of that feeling like you're gonna get shot because old fudd can't go hunting without drinking grappa first? nah no thanks it's not worth it.
If Canadian society and gun laws weren't like they are I would've already moved there just for the open spaces

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How hard would it be to take a basic 10/22 stock and convert it to a takedown like pic rel?

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What are the chances this order gets fulfilled.

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I found out today that right about 2k rounds of .22 LR fit in a Savior loose sack.

Didn't get an answer in the QTDDTOT: I've got a CZ 457 Stainless with a 20" barrel. I want to buy an integrally suppressed aftermarket 16" barrel. Is it a simple drag and drop? The videos online are a bit confusing. It's not a conversion model. If anyone has any experience with this, recommendations?

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>>61487907
CZ 455 and by extension 457 are drag and drop. 455 barrels should fit 457s all the same. It's two allen set screws holding the barrel in.

>>61487932
>allen set screws
why did they use the literal worst screw head type

I just wish there was a lever action 22 that would work with a suppressor. TFW been in jail for almost 5 months and niggaz be getting 3 day approvals. So I need a bolt action 22, I'm trying to figure out what to go with that's around $400.

>>61488180
scroll up

>>61481923
A couple o companies make integrally supressed standard 10/22 barrels. I think they have a diameter similar to bull barrels so getting a stock should be easy

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>>61483490
I've never done it but how does the TD forend attach to the barrel? Probably some fitting around the chamber if the TD barrels are any fatter. Probably need to do some fitting and shaping around the TD parts and screws that don't normally exist. Need to make a pointed head (transfer) screw to transfer the screw hole location under the barrel to attach the forend. That's as easy as buying the same size screw as the one under the barrel from Lowes (~$2.xx), grinding the head down, putting it in a drill head out and spinning it against a bench grinder or file to get a somewhat concentric point. File down flats on either side to make it able to be wrenched/pliers'd out. At least that's how I'd transfer the mark. Luckily that slot the TD lever goes in looks like it's similar to the scallop in front of the magwell so you can copy it pretty easy. Most easy would be to buy the TD version of that stock lol. If they still make it hopefully they make a TD version. My stock is about $200 something and I'm sure the TD version is similar. I'd rather just buy another in TD version than potentially fuck mine up and have to re-finish whatever I touched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-n1CLkabvI

>>61488148
It could be worse. MUCH worse. Allen > Philips every fucking day for something I'll be screwing in more than once.

>>61488180
>>61451804
Henry. YWN a loading gate .22 ever though.

>>61488668
IDK I just think it looks neat. Wondering if the huge volume makes it any better than any other .22 silencer.

Best 22lr bolt action for the money?

>>61483422
>that's just because canucks have a shitload of open land
And, you know, a colonial frontier culture that was settling an untamed continent while Europe was already an urbanized shithole.

>>61486962
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>>61491085
>urbanized shithole
at the peak of the colonial frontier, Europe was 90% rural towns, population density has always been high since before the middle ages but that is just because europe is small as fuck

>>61490466
Savage g series if you are on a budget, t1x if you see it on sale as both tikka and cz aren't worth more than $600.

>>61491352
my budget is around 1k, I'd like to get something accurate that I can shoot a ton.

>>61491362
Oh then cz or tikka are fine in your budget just don't over pay on cz they are insane pricing some configs over $800.

>>61491372
thanks fren. I'll look into both. I think my range has a cz for rent so I'll try it out

>>61486197
22 neos? no one knows what that is

i wanted to get back into shooting my .22

what's more fun, red dot or 2-7x scope?

>>61452904
>civilian firearms
No such thing, ZOGbot. Bet you're one of the fags who say "civilians shouldn't own assault weapons"

>>61477367
Anyone?

>>61491215
Label just got created, so they're sending something. Now it's a matter of what...

>>61492505
Depends on distance and intended targets. Red dot for range shooting, scope for hunting/innawoods fun

>>61493653
You're a lucky fuck. I mean Magtech appears to be junky but I'd buy it for pistol use at the very least. $20 for 25,000 rounds is worth. $0.000822/rd. At worst it's shitty pistol ammo that gets you FTE and FTF practice and a lot of trigger time.

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>>61427601
Just ordered this, why are more recent made ones only rimfire?

>>61487877
How much does it weigh?

whats the best .22lr pistol goys

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>>61495850
>left eject cvr
Who's roll mark is that? Very nice, btw

>>61489557
thanks, I'll probably practice first with some spare wood I have
>I'd rather just buy another in TD version than potentially fuck mine up and have to re-finish whatever I touched.
I'd do the same but over here I can't find any TD 10/22 with a wood stock. it looks like they are usually either limited US runs or they are just not imported here.

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>>61480031
>>61481758
I actually have one! It's definitely not a popular choice.
It was my first NFA item and is currently my only rimfire suppressor, so I don't have anything to compare it to.
I'm very happy with it, but I'm sure there are "better" options out there.
>Maybe the CS is good and maybe it'd be a good idea to buy one from them since they're more likely to be around 20 years from now than random silencer company 368
Call me a boomer, but this is honestly one of the reasons I picked the Silent SR. I have more faith in Ruger being around than some of the other companies.
Another reason for picking it was the construction, stainless steel baffles make for easy cleaning in an ultrasonic cleaner with Breakthrough Suppressor Cleaner.
The design also allows it to be used under a handguard and not leave parts behind when taking it off. I think that's an issue some people complain about with other designs.
>>61481758
Yeah, it's kind of a tank.
What should I consider for another rimfire suppressor? Must not have aluminum baffles and be rated for 5.7x28 (Ruger originally advertised that the Silent SR is rated for 5.7x28 but later removed all references to this from their website).

>>61501369
>this is honestly one of the reasons I picked the Silent SR. I have more faith in Ruger being around than some of the other companies.
I have some faith that bigger companies like Dead Air will be around for a while. I have faith that Ruger and Sig, etc. will still be around for a while, but my worry is that Ruger and Sig might eventually leave the market for silencers and instead focus more on guns and what happens to my warranty then? Just a thought I've had.
>Another reason for picking it was the construction, stainless steel baffles make for easy cleaning in an ultrasonic cleaner with Breakthrough Suppressor Cleaner.
Not a bad reason. I need a cleaner for my silencers. .22 is filthy. Even just something to soak it in to make scrubbing quick would be a godsend for when I have to get around to it.
>The design also allows it to be used under a handguard and not leave parts behind when taking it off. I think that's an issue some people complain about with other designs.
Oh you mean like the Mask HD? Not like I'd know about that or anything LOL. Fixed rear cap is annoying for cleaning but man is it nice for removal and installation. One less set of threads to worry about.
>What should I consider for another rimfire suppressor? Must not have aluminum baffles and be rated for 5.7x28 (Ruger originally advertised that the Silent SR is rated for 5.7x28 but later removed all references to this from their website).
I'm not Burt but the SIG SRD 22x is rated up to .22 mag and .17 rimfire. It's decent for .22LR. Thin. Nice finish. Baffles a little hard to get out sometimes since only the front cap comes off. No real issues. I like the finish, reminds me of a blued parkerizing finish but with extreme toughness; very very hard to scratch. The Mask HD is rated up to 5.7 but the finish is thin; scratched it with a 10/22 barrel band. Nice silencer though. First round pop is minimal. I've shot one more but don't remember what the guy had on his Ruger MK IV.

>>61490466
Bang for the buck?
Ruger American Rimfire
KSA Crickett
Savage Rascal
Ruger Precision Rimfire
CZ 457

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>>61501805
>I have faith that Ruger and Sig, etc. will still be around for a while, but my worry is that Ruger and Sig might eventually leave the market for silencers and instead focus more on guns and what happens to my warranty then? Just a thought I've had.
Fair enough, I've actually thought about aspect of it too. No way to predict the future I guess.
>Not a bad reason. I need a cleaner for my silencers. .22 is filthy. Even just something to soak it in to make scrubbing quick would be a godsend for when I have to get around to it.
Look into "Breakthrough Suppressor Cleaner." It's pricey but soaking the suppressor in the cleaner, combined with using a heated ultrasonic cleaner works amazingly well.
Thanks for the other suggestions!

>>61503305
If it gives you any idea as to what either sound like, both of them are good with 1280fps 38gr .22 out of an 18" 10/22. No ear pro. No ringing. I'll have to look further into cleaning solutions, thanks anon. Sometimes wish I could just chuck my BX-15s and 10/22 in a cleaner to let it soften up and scrub right off with no effort lol.

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>>61431749
>he can only shoot those once or twice for the video.
Incorrect, burgers talking about things they know nothing about is standard fare at this point

>>61507106
>People make assumptions when you're one of the least gun owning nations in the "free" world

>>61507106
>noooo le heckin fergusonino can totally shoot those guns whenever he wants wherever he wants! ignore that he legally cannot touch them without prior approval of the police and the museum!
Hey bong, fuck off from /k/, this board is only for people who own guns.

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shut the fuck up and talk about 22s

>>61442531
I'm sickened yet aroused

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>>61509680
It's a custom brass cast 10/22 from a guy on rimfire central. Pretty neat.

>>61435682
Where are you buying mini mags for that cost?

I can't tell the quality difference cci mini mags and Blazer bulk 22.

>>61510745
Well Blazer is a CCI made/owned brand so...

>>61510778
Yeah but Blazer bulk is cheaper

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How come nobody makes pic related anymore?

>>61428113
How do you like the Bobcat? I'm thinking about picking one up soon, but the lack of an extractor makes me a bit leery.

>>61513261
I like it a lot. Reliable. Just wish it had higher sights for silencer use but that might defeat the purpose a bit. I can get it quiet enough to be on the upper edge of hearing safe. I should try a different silencer on the end though. Any rounds that failed to extract have been caused by me playing around with low power ammo. All of those have come out easily with a pinky nail, and rather quick. Very small but still handles nice.

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>>61510745
Minimag is a tiny bit cleaner in the barrel but Blazer is some of the best bulk I've ever shot too. God damn I wish I bought more when it was crazy cheap.

>>61513202
Ballistically inferior to the more common ogives? Why's it special? It's just high velocity 40gr that's not lead isn't it.

>>61514261
I find it's still pretty aimable using the silencer body as a rib sight

>>61514796
I've tried it and it works but it could be better. Then again I don't shoot handguns as much as I should. I've considered hot gluing temporary sights to the silencer lol. Maybe I could print something. Would come right off with alcohol.

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>>61514796
Then again I was shooting paper hoping for like 4" groups and shooting something like this hoping for ~2.5" groups lol. So I should temper my expectations. Also don't shoot this thing with a 21A and low power ammo at a pistol range, the ricochets are insane.
t. professional retard

>>61514261
Thanks anon. By low power ammo, do you mean standard velocity bulk ammo, or even weaker stuff like CCI Quiets?

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>>61514826
That's not a bad idea lol if you keep the volume of fire low enough not to melt the glue or plastic. Looks like somebody else had the same idea
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/rugged-obsidian9-45-clamp-on-suppressor-sights
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/parametric-clamp-on-suppressor-sights

I frequently shoot my 21a at 100 yards with the suppressor. Once I know where to hold I can hit the gong consistently

>>61515621
I mean 710 FPS quiet shorts. The 1k FPS stuff runs fine IIRC. I need to try more in that in-between area. Hell, regular length 710 FPS Quiets might actually run. CCI suppressor did run well IIRC. I'm just trying to get the quietest I can which is the only reason I ran into problems with cycling. I think most of the ammo that didn't cycle still managed to eject the case, just not load the next. Except colibris, of course.

>>61515709
Only reason the idea came to mind is that I remember seeing an old silencer with built in irons. Some military/sneeybreeki use for a pistol; probably from the 70s/80s. Had Beretta 92 type sights IIRC with white dots. Funny thing is it'd have a better sight radius than the stock Beretta 21a. I might have to cut out something by hand as my printer is out of commission ATM but maybe I'd be able to make something nicer that'd actually last assuming I make it out of metal.

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>>61515775
>Beretta 92 type sights IIRC
And a Beretta type gun lol it's been tried a few times over the years but without a way to keep the sights clocked to the gun it's more trouble than it's worth. The one you're probably thinking of is the KAC snap on.

>>61515853
No it wasn't that one but damn close. I probably saw it on here. Also yeah that's why I wanted to simply hot glue it on top after installation lol. No clocking worries.

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I bought a H&R Sportsman revolver that has a rat fucked cylinder and only seems to inconsistently touch off primers, I'll try increasing spring tension with washers temporarily to see if maybe a stronger pin will fix it but what are my options if that doesn't do it?

>>61517861
Check whether the firing pin tip isn't worn down or fucked up and make sure the screw holding the spring/tension on the spring is both there and actually tightened down. Funny enough...my only H&R revolver, a Trapper, does not have a tension screw. So maybe that's not a thing on the H&Rs. So if the spring is just worn out, good luck.

>>61517905
lmao, neither does the sportsman. It's a pretty much just the trigger stud with like a ball head that fits onto the hammer and a plate that slots into the frame. I have been into the guts of this thing way too much trying to bring it back to life. Dunno if we talked before but I had to weld a bead into the hammer because it was indeed chipped.

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>>61517956
Oh god that's right, I've seen that revolver. Here's my basketcase H&R Trapper from when an anon was asking WTF he was looking at in auction pics. Cracked forcing cone in a .22LR. I still need a barrel stub and need to shop around for smiths worth a shit that won't charge me a retarded price for something that will take them all of maybe 2 hours max.

>>61517983
hey, if you don't spend 5 hours trying to fab parts yourself can you really call the gun yours?

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>>61518018
I really wish I had bought the Ruger Standard from that fucking auction instead lol; I ended up buying one anyways. Glad this one didn't go to someone else or a store and end up innashredder at a gun buyback though. It's a silly little revolver and I'm happy with the Ruger Standard I ended up buying later rather than the custom one I was looking at.

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>>61518046
how the hell do you crack a forcing cone with .22s? at least you got a good deal on it, I got a pity 45 dollars in store credit back after I told them the hammer was fucked after paying like 320 for it. Which is frankly far too much for a sportsman to begin with. Tbh if it's a simple job I'd just call a machine shop, gunsmiths around me have like a flat 70 dollar fee before they even start fabbing and they were humming and hawing about it while the machine shop a couple minutes away from me were like
>hell yeah, lets do it, that'll be 10 bucks

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>>61518073
I have NO fucking clue. The thing fits .22lr max. Like, bullet is 1mm from being flush with the face of the cylinder. The barrel, in its infinite clarity, says ".22 Rim Fire" which makes me wonder. The barrel has also been shortened...somehow. I want to say that it's been cut down and the forcing cone reamed and the barrel re-threaded on the chamber side since all the markings near the muzzle are still there but it does have a shotgun bead as a front sight so...who knows. The Trapper, oddly, is a longer barrel model than most of the other H&Rs from the time; I figured the "Trapper" would be a compact model made for easy pocketing/holstering and ease of getting through brush and wetland, you know, for the trapline, a lot like the Brownie.

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>>61518073
I really didn't get a good deal on mine IMO; maybe $120-ish and it's not even a break open, instead it has an always open loading gate and a removable cylinder. It's SUPPOSED to be this long. Mine is not. However, even though I have other guns that are way better...I kinda like it. I'm going to keep it. At worst I don't have to feel guilty getting the new barrel tapped for a rail for a pistol scope or something retarded like that and I even have a vintage Bushnell to chuck on it. I kinda like the shotgun bead/frame rear irons too; it's grown on me.

>>61518073
Also, check the "face" of the hammer. It might have scuzz on it preventing it from going down fully. Or the face of the hammer/firing pin slot (not sure wtf that's called). Or the firing pin slot itself. There's a lot of junk in mine.
>Tbh if it's a simple job I'd just call a machine shop, gunsmiths around me have like a flat 70 dollar fee before they even start fabbing and they were humming and hawing about it while the machine shop a couple minutes away from me were like
Ah, isn't it great? I know a guy that gave a smith literally the easiest job I can think of. "Here is a pistol. The sights need to be replaced. Here are the sights I want that are DESIGNED for this pistol and do not need fitting, just old tapped out new tapped in and zeroed/checked. He waited for months and eventually got pissed. If the smith was swamped, fine, but he got his gun back...halfway though the job. How the fuck do you get HALFWAY through replacing DROP IN replacement sights?! Insanity. If I had a lathe and knew the thread pitch I'd do it myself. I do not however. I'm going to find a smith and see if he needs anything like a forcing cone cutter. I'll supply him with the additional tooling if need be. I want it to be in, out, and back within the year hopefully...maybe I should ask a guy I know got some work done. I think I know where he would've gone and he didn't seem to have complaints. Also, the only thing I can think of with the forcing cone thing is someone threw Velocitors in my revolver when they were introduced. Only thing I can think of that makes sense. Or the pitting (from corrosive ammo?) really really fucked the integrity of the barrel up bad.

>>61518196
I was thinking maybe I got the hammer angle wrong because I literally had to hand file the ball of weld into shape but the strikes on .22 look fine and it fires well if fed on CCI and Kolibris but I didnt get a revolver to baby the thing with ammo. I really do not want to move any metal now it's mostly true so I'm just gonna hope the hammer spring is worn

>>61518231
Could be that it's just too fat but who knows. Hard to say without seeing it in person really. I made my own rifle firing pin and it was real reliable...now the replacement that is hardened properly and keeps its shape has some random clicks, no bang. I don't want to fuck with it.

>>61518326
it does go through the slot (tested fit like 30 times while filing) and the whole thing has been deep cleaned multiple times for lulz. If it is the hammer angle I'd have to actually go to a smith that knows what he's doing to give it like 4 licks with a file and maybe a dozen passes with a stone to get it ticking like a clock and charge me 70 dollars and 6 months for the privilege.

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>>61518392
Yes but it's the face surrounding the back of the firing pin channel and the face of the hammer behind the firing pin I'm talking about. Easy for junk to add a "spacer" creating a situation where your firing pin appears too short but it's really just .22lr gunk preventing it from going forward enough. Hard to describe where I'm talking about; it's that little hammer pocket's "face" where the hammer and the frame just under the rear sights meet. The hammer/pin angle appears to be pretty easy...in theory. Comes out the most at the top and the least at the bottom. This is fully bottomed out; there appears to be no difference whether the trigger is held down or released while the hammer is down as there's no rebound or even drop safety on this thing lol. Only the ability to put the hammer between rounds...maybe. Hopefully yours is similar enough for reference.
>If it is the hammer angle I'd have to actually go to a smith that knows what he's doing to give it like 4 licks with a file and maybe a dozen passes with a stone to get it ticking like a clock and charge me 70 dollars and 6 months for the privilege.
Ah isn't that the truth. But more like $100 and 6+ months and maybe he knows what he's doing and hopefully he doesn't fuck it up.

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My newest purchase.
Its a vintage browning bl-22 grade 2 from 1974. The japanese make some fine firearms.
The short throw lever was off putting at first but now I really like it. Its smooth and really fast to work.
It eats anything I put in it without jamming and its lighter than my henry all while looking much better too.
Out of my eight 22 rifles, it may be my new favorite.

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>>61520074
beautiful, now you got me wanting one.

>>61427851
He actually made me think a LOT less of the Royal Armories. If anything symptomatic of the UKs overall decline and lack of funding for national museums. Imagine having to put that scruffy think on youtube to make coin like a prostitute talking about video games so you can afford to polish henry il sung the VIIIs mass murdering codpiece

>>61521823
>funding for national museums
Gonna have to vote for Labour

>>61458735
I have a Brno Model 2. Nice rifle, but I only have one magazine for it. Never got around to buying more.

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Not a bong but here's my CBC 7022. Currently fiddling with my 3d printer so I can make a 30 round stendo for it. I'm currently able to get a penny sized group at 100m using shit tier ammo (the cheapest ones that come in cans and are as dirty as blackpowder rounds).

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>>61522640
CBC? How many other things do they make clones of? Also that looks like half Marlin 60 half 10/22, neat.

>>61522755
Internally, it's pretty much a mossberg 702 plinkster. They aren't making a lot of guns anymore sadly... since Lula got declared the winner in the last election the gun laws worsened considerably. Things are so bad now that I'm considering machining 32-20 brass and it's reloading dies bc I can't find it for sale and afaik it has no parent case.

>>61522813
Huh, turns out that CBC actually makes the 702 for the US market. Do they still sell the Remington Nylon there? I think they got the manufacturing lines from Remington in the 80s-90s. I'd buy a CBC nylon no questions asked if they still made them. As for the 702...
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossberg_702_Plinkster
>The 702 Plinkster is made in Brazil by Companhia Brasileira de Cartuchos (CBC) and is sold under the Mossberg name. It is essentially the CBC Model 7022 restyled to Mossberg's specifications and previously sold under the MagTech brand name. The bolt and receiver design is modeled on the Model 70 variant of the Marlin Model 60; the ejector, firing mechanism and feed system are different.

>>61522865
I bought the 702 bc I couldn't find the CBC nylon kek. I had to buy a .22 semiauto bc now they are considered restricted weapons otherwise I would be left with a bolt action only.

>>61522886
Weird; so were they being made until recently or were you looking for a used one? Not that I know of any companies who would be able to help with an import from Brazil (like I do for British guns) but I'd be interested if I could get a brand new Nylon in 2024 lol. It'd certainly take some pressure off wanting to thread mine like that pic I posted.

>>61522936
Used guns are VERY hard to come by here since the paperwork is astronomical so yeah I was looking for a new one. As a rule of thumb you can only get an used gun when some antigun granson inherits his grandpa's gun collection otherwise ppl never sell their stuff. Check the Magtech website it's the internatinal branch of the CBC company they prob have some guns for sale in Europe and the prices aren't terrible. You might have some luck checking on portuguese gunstores since Brasil has several economic treaties with Portugal so they might be allowed to import our guns into the European market.

>>61522966
Magtech seems to not list their guns. I found CBC's .br site though and it looks like they don't make it anymore. =(
https://www.cbc.com.br/armas-longas/
Guess I'll have to find an old CBC in the US and get it threaded or get lucky and find an already threaded UK import of one as Navy Arms has been importing a bunch of British .22s. Sad to see the machines to make the Nylon might finally have gotten scrapped; they've been made continuously (more or less) since 1959.

>>61522966
>Used guns are VERY hard to come by here since the paperwork is astronomical so yeah I was looking for a new one
Weird, the shit you never consider

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