>laid down in 1941>japs surrender on her '45>decommissioned 1955>RECOMMISSIONED 31 YEARS LATER; lobs shells at Saddam's forces>Oh yeah and Cher films a music video on it god damn
>>61435413The mighty Mo. My home state. Fuck Joe Biden.
>>61435413iirc those big battleships didn't wear enough its gun to require barrel or lining replacements
reminder that the Canadians fucked up the instrument of surrender, dude signed in the wrong spot lmao
>>61435426Goddamn it Canada...just fuck.
some Mo gun loader vet was posting in the YT comments of a video about the guns... he said his hearing loss was determined to be "not service related" OOF
https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Battleship_(Civ1)
I read that battleship guns are literally lost technology today — all the institutional knowledge and experience behind their construction completely disappeared.
>>61435653They're not magic. People know how to make large guns and you have dozens of extant examples. I imagine some of the manufacturing processes would take a little trial and error to get running smoothly in a modern factory but it's not like the construction has been lost to time like Greek fire or pyramid building.
>>61435653Lost in the sense that there's nobody currently set up to do it. Not quite the same as a lostech Battlemech or something.
>>61435653lost tech? There're hydraulic presses far better and larger than those used to forge those barrels. Current refined special steels are far better and large lathes are a niche still common for the petrochemical industry (see Saddam Hussein super gun).By comparison those presses are tiny and simple compared to hydraulic presses needed to die-form structural parts of titanium for airliners in a single stroke. Making more big guns would be stupid.
>>61435703Iirc the issue isn’t making large tubes, but making them suitable as super-large naval rifles.
>>61435731Naval guns aren't monobloc in first place. The rifled lining is 'tiny' and technically not outstanding, just a waste of money.
>>61435424Well, you're entitled to your opinion Jack, but I think that's a bunch of mlarky.
>>61435426Im surprised they didn't have a backup copy, I guess they didn't expect that kind of a fuckup
>>61435413Wisconsin is better.
>setting of the best action movie of the 90s
>>61435413>laid down in 1941so barely relevant then>bbbbbut shore bombardmentbuild a fucking monitor then
>>61435653yeah that guy was retarded>>61435703thiswe could even make those battleship guns fire proper smart ammunition a la MANTIS>>61435731between the petrochemical pipe industry and the discontinued Zumwalt AGS research we have everything we need IF we wanted to put it together, but we don't because missiles are better
>Missouri's captain directed that the song be played when the ship was conducting underway replenishments with other ships.
>>61442441what song?also playing stuff on loudspeakers while RASing was a pretty common tradition, dating to at least the 60s that I know of
>>61435413Wait, we really recommissioned a battleship and actually used it?
>>61443172You weren't among the people who did.
>>61443172Multiple times, yes. Iowas were used in WW2, then Korea, then put in reserve, then taken out for Vietnam, then put in reserve, then taken out and given TLAM, CIWS and nuclear artillery shells for the Kirov scare
>>61443281>nuclear artillery shellsI know they had nuclear Tomahawks but I doubt they had nuclear 16" shells
>>61443419There're 8" and 155mm nuclear shells. For 16" you could have a cluster nuke.
>>61443478okay, but "could" is not the same as "did"
>>61443419They did, the W23, a 20kt shell. Also New Jersey experimented firing 8" projectiles out of the 16" guns with giant sabots, which wasn't operationalized but is just neat.
>>61435653Harvey steel isn't exactly lost tech
>>61436643Truly the only good blockbuster he was ever in.That and Executive Decision, but only because he dies like 20 mins in and it becomes a Kurt Russel film, thank fuck.
>>61435425The guns were definitely worn down after all those years. The Iowa turret exploded because some admiral decided to try and shoot bubba's pissin hot +++p+ 16in handloads and blew out the whole fuckin breech.
>>61447043QRD?
>>61447887The Navy threw a dead enlisted man under the rug to protect the brass and engaged in the most egregious and flagrant cover-up in decades. They literally called him a gay terrorist.
>>61447951Under the bus*
>>61442536I'm guessing they meant the Cher song mentioned in the OP
>>61447951This shit has always gets me.>should we own up to being retarded>of course not>should we invent some kind of normal coverup>no, convoluted yaoi fanfic slander, it's the only wayBro was clearly spending too much time thinking about enlisted buttsex drama.
>>61435413>tfw no nuclear powered battleships with railgun turrets
>>61448144>Bro was clearly spending too much time thinking about enlisted buttsex dramaMaybe he had a background in the soviet navy?
>>61448144Being gay at the time was especially scandalous and seen as subversive in conservative circles.
>>61435413>be cher>dance on this ship in a thong in front of your son playing guitar
>>61435413https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Nevada_(BB-36)>they had to use a lot of gunfire to sink it
>>61446839>>61436643On deadly ground was pretty good. I wish more cinama's replayed old movies, i'm sure they could get the rights to play them for dirt cheap.
>>61435653Expensive to restart moribund production != Lost technology You could ask some engineers at any school in America to design the cannons and they'd have blueprints ready in a week. The issue is also finding the machinery, the employees, the facility, etc. in which to actually assemble them again.The Tiger tank is also "lost" technology in that neither Porsche nor Rheinmetall today in 2024 have the same machinery and casts they were using in 1944.
>>61436643That's one of the most kino film posters ever created.
>Shortly after Missouri completed her shelling of Faylaka Island, Wisconsin, while still over the horizon (and thus out of visual range of the Iraqi forces) launched her RQ-2 Pioneer Unmanned Aerial Vehicle to spot for her 16 in (406 mm) guns. As Wisconsin's drone approached Faylaka Island, the pilot of the drone was instructed to fly the vehicle low over Iraqi positions so that the soldiers would know that they were once again being targeted by a battleship. Iraqi troops on the ground heard the Pioneer's distinctive buzzing sound, and having witnessed the effects of Missouri's artillery strike on their trench line, the Iraqi troops decided to signal their willingness to surrender by waving makeshift white flags, an action dutifully noted aboard Wisconsin. Amused at this sudden development, the men assigned to the drone's aircrew called Wisconsin's commanding officer, Captain David S. Bill III, and asked, "Sir, they want to surrender, what should I do with them?" This surrender to Wisconsin's Pioneer has since become one of the most remembered moments of the Gulf War; the incident was also the first-ever surrender of enemy troops to an unmanned aircraft.We need to bring back the battleships, this is a capability that cruise missiles simply cannot achieve.
>>61448802I think it's less to do with battleships and more to do with a dinky buzzing drone being a herald for apocalyptic doom.
>>61435413Im going on a dry dock tour of New Jersey in a couple weeks and I’m very excited for that.
>>61435424You’re a fucking moron anon. Fuck Trump, fuck you, and fuck your disgusting trash parents. You and your people represent the worst of this nation.
>>61447887The turret explosion was a real-life example of the loss of operational knowledge regarding obsolete systems. The rammer tried to ram the powder bags too quickly and static electricity build up set the powder off. This was a known danger when bag guns were common but the Fleet hadn't worked with bag guns in decades at that point and the danger wasn't appreciated as much as it should have been. This can be laid squarely at the Navy brass feet which explains the attempt at a cover up.
>>61449838There were so many fundamental fuckups with the Iowa during that time it's both staggering and entirely unsurprising based on how the USN typically handle things.Wasn't there also an issue with the guy in charge wanting to over-charge the loads, even though the labels on the bags literally had a warning saying not to overcharge the loads?
>>61435424Based.
>>61449838static electricity buildup? how do you avoid that?
>>61448144If thinking about man ass was enough to cause an accident like that, half the fucking USN would be artificial reefs.It'd be funnier if not for the fact that it was a genuine effort to slander a victim of their own oversights to save their own asses.
>>61443172I believe what had happened was that the Soviets were upgrading their navy late in the Cold War and the Americans crapped themselves and wanted big hulls in the water ASAP, so they retrofitted modern hardware onto mothballed battleships and sent them out, and then Saddam was kind enough to provide target practice.
>>61449546LOL faggot.
>>61452520Why are rednecks so obsessed with losers?TrumpThe Confederacy The GOP Fucking losers
>>61435703it'd be stupid but i bet museums would get a lot of tourist bucks if you were allowed to fire off the main guns
>>61449546I didn’t hear homeboy say anything about Trump, nigga said FUCK JOE BIDEN.
>>61449838>>61449970Don't forget the brilliant decision to remix powder from expired charges into new bags, which had results very similar to the extremely degraded turk surplus 8mm but on a drastic scale>>61451691It was basically the navy taking advantage of the big-gun lobby in congress to get the battleships back primarily as the quickest option to get big tomahawk haulers into action fast
>>61451691>wanted big hulls in the water ASAP>>61452798>the quickest option to get big tomahawk haulers into action fastquickest and cheapestthe refurb reportedly cost less than a brand new destroyerin terms of unit cost it was an excellent dealin terms of manpower costs however it wasn't so good
>>61452832With modern automation and computers you could cut crew numbers by a huge amount. Refitting mothballed big ships may be something we see if a war with China goes hot.
>>61452606>>61449546gay
>>61450097Ram more slowly. >>61452798>powder remixYes, that was dumb as hell. Any artilleryman could have predicted the results had the brass thought to ask but all they could see were dollar signs. In any event the main problem it seems to have caused was New Jersey showing terrible accuracy in Lebanon.
>>61448933But that apocalyptic doom is something that's unique to battleships in this day and age. Hit some bunkers with PGMs, everyone keeps going. Blow up some vehicles with 155mm artillery or FPV drones, everyone keeps going. Unload with the 16" guns and give them a little taste of Verdun, suddenly they're tripping over each other to surrender to an observation drone.
>>61435653it's not because you can rebuild old tech that you should rebuild old tech.
>>61436428>Wisconsin is betterCrack in barbette.
>>61443688>Harvey steellol no
>>61435426After all that. Fucking Canadians. Now they should have started the war over.
>>61449970>>61449838>navy blames gays for their own fuckup>in the end it still comes down to someone ramming in something way too fast
>>61452798The zero in charge at Dahlgren thought rebagging was a great idea.During the investigation, same zero said it was not the cause of the explosion.Nobody said "why are we asking someone who is part of the fuckup if he is part of the fuckup"?
>>61452842USN uses numbers for damage control hands. Automation does not reduce manning much.Steam power does but that's because skills are needed and nobody wants to be in 120F spaces for little money.
>>61435425adverbs in english come after the subject, not after the verbit's "didn't wear its gun enough"not "didn't wear enough its gun"there's probably some obscure exception to this in some case where you're trying to emphasize something, but this is how you say it 99% of the time>>61455350so what you're saying is the gays should be extra careful about ramming it in too fast?
>>61455350>in the end it still comes down to someone ramming in something way too fastLike me with Ur mum.
>>61435413Don't forget "Won the only BB vs AShM engagement in history". The Iraqis had no idea their made-in-china slavjank missiles had less effective range than the 16". Their strike wasn't merely intercepted, they got annihilated by their target's counter-battery fire too.
>>61435413You forgot >Last active battleship in the world at the time of decommissioning
>>61455645>Won the only BB vs AShM engagement in historypardon me, old chap
>>61455705That is not a BB
>>61455723yes, and Missouri didn't shoot down that anti-ship missile
>>61455705She did an escorts duty: protect her capital ship. Missouri was still the target and the one to return fire. No modern warship fights alone.
>>61443172Oh yeah. They even pulled New Jersey out of storage in the 60's as part of Operation Sea Dragon
>>61455645>in response to the battleship's artillery strike, the Iraqis fired two HY-2 Silkworm missiles at the battleship, one of which crashed shortly after launching. The other missile was intercepted by a GWS-30 Sea Dart missile launched from the British destroyer HMS Gloucester within 90 seconds and crashed into the sea roughly 700 yd (640 m) in front of Missouri. Shortly afterwards, the battleship's Pioneer drones located the missile launchers and neutralized them with about fifty 16-inch shellsGood lord
>>61443274Just cause your shitty thirdie "country" cant field a blue water navy doesnt mean the rest of us cant
>>61435426
>>61452606found the tranny subverterspread that bussy tranny
>>61455852>fifty 16-inch shellsTemper, temper
>>61449546unironically kys faggot
>>61448306I mean naturally, but is that really reason at all to cook up an entire fictional homo love affair gone sour?And it really, really doesn't help the "Navy gay lol" thing.It comes off like the Russians claiming they're just constantly shooting down their own aircraft. Except you could feasible come up with all kinds of bullshit to sweep this under the rug instead of being fucking weird about it.
>>61449546Dangerously based in a board filled with MAGA aka vatnik shills
>>61455947Canada signing on the wrong line and screwing up the document that ended the war is the funniest fucking thing.
>>61455943Do you have a blue water navy?
>>61435424Based indeed. Let's go brandon. Keep making em seethe.
>>61455852The interception of that missile was a surprisingly close thing. The USN's efforts were a complete fuckup and their own chaff screwed up their aim, so it fell to the British to smack it..
>>61449546>>61456856foreigners or disloyal faggots
>>61435413It was out of date by the time it was launched. Once aircraft carriers became night capable it was over. November 11 1940 was the day the battleship died.
>ywn play in the Iowa's President bath tub equipped with model ship and rubber duckyBros, why even live?
>>61462735>disloyal to a man who does everything he can to discredit america's institutions, elections, and policiesthat's patriotic if anything
>>61463891Democrats are breaking our justice system purely because of orange man bad, anon.Remember the Meuller report?>"this does not exonerate him"The lack of evidence and proof needed to prosecute Trump didn't matter. He was always guilty, as are his supporters.
>>61449497>Hi, I’m Ryan Szimanski curator of Battleship New Jersey Museum and Memorial, and today we’re going to be checking out some of the lesser seen spaces on the battleship>*begins stripping NJ*>now the reason that these aren’t on the regular tour route is because they’re hard to access, or out of the way of everything else on the tour.>*finishes stripping NJ*>Now here we are at the first stop. As you can see this is a pretty tight space, not usually accessible while underway.>*slips a finger in NJ’s bum*>With a tight squeeze we can actually get inside one of the void spaces of the aft turret’s barbette>*she takes in a sharp breath*>Now we’re gonna be moving on to one of my personal favorite spaces on the ship, while we’re on our way we we’ll check out a portion of the armor belt in one of these rooms here.>*spanks NJ with a resounding slap*>*she gives a surprised Yelp*>Well here we are. >*begins teasing NJ’s pussy lips*>This is a crew birthing that’s within the armored citadel, just forward of the aft turret and above engine room 1>*Starts to insert fingers into NJ’s pussy*>Now that we’ve seen this we’ll take a look at one of the boiler rooms>*NJ lets out a breathy moan*>Now here is one of the most interesting parts on the ship. This is called a sea chest, and it’s an opening in the hull where the evaporators, or other equipment that uses seawater is supplied>*spreads NJ’s lips and starts playing with her clit*>And if the need arose, this is one of the areas where scuttling charges would be placed in order to sink the ship>*NJ shudders as a powerful orgasm overtakes her. She begins to squirt uncontrollably*>Uh well that’s all for this video. If you’ve enjoyed today’s video consider supporting us by liking and subscribing. If you’d like to donate to the battleship, schedule a tour, or volunteer, visit the link down below. >*NJ is recovering from her orgasm, panting in the background*
>>61449546I like how obvious and easy it is to point out the faggiters and glowies on this board since the 2022 invasion.
>>61458228Im an american i can have whatever i want
>>61464488is there fan art of Kancolle New Jersey being man handled by Ryan Szimanski
