If diamond is the strongest material why dont they make kevlar vests out of it?
>>61436619It kind of worked for the Romanovs. They sewed their jewels into their clothes when they tried to flee and had to be finished off with rifle butts to the skull.
>>61436619https://youtube.com/watch?v=0Ne0fqOA3_I
Do you mean the inserts? It might do okay there but isn't produceable. Kevlar is a fiber and isn't the preferred vest material these days (UHMWPE is). That said, if you're asking why you can't make a diamond fabrics, it's because we can't make diamond filaments.
>>61436619becUse diamonda ade a girls besf friems lol lmao even
>>61436619>why don't they make cardboard out of themYou meant bullet proof armor, it would be too heavy, it's a fucking mineral, it's like packing gravel into your shirt.
>>61436680>it's a fucking mineral
>>61436619THe better question is why arent they making apfsds out of dimands.
>>61436680>diamond is a mineralkill yourself, perhaps
>>61436619>wear diamond incrusted vest>get shot>diamond is so hard the bullet just pushes it into you>you now have a diamond AND a bullet inside your body
>>61436619It's hard but it's brittle
>>61436696American education, everyone.
>>61436680>like packing gravel into your shirt.Ceramic plates are literally sand packed into a shirt...
>>61436636
>>61436619Okay that sounds stupid, but why not bullets made out of it? Is depleted uranium harder?
>>61436680yeah i heard that 1 gram of diamond weights around 5 grams
>>61436619>why dont they make kevlar vests out of it?Uuuhhh because they are made from kevlar?
>>61436619>If diamond is the strongest material why dont they make kevlar vests out of it?Because actually Dragonforce is the hardest metal.
>>61436750Same, 1 kg of diamonds weights like 5kg of steel because is very dense
>>61436636This sounds like commie propaganda to make them look bad but it’s 100% relatable. >Ah, my family has been kidnapped by murderous brutes. Should we leave behind anything we can use to bribe them or buy our freedom, safety for our family?
>>61436763>>61436750But steel is heavier than feathers
>>61436854Ah, but you know what else floats on water?A duck!
>>61436727Who the fuck is he even meant to be?The cook?
>>61436619>If diamond is the strongest material why dont they make kevlar vests out of it?Remind me of this.>it's 15 mohs so it must be really hard!
Due to extensive research done by the University of Pittsburgh, diamond has been confirmed as the hardest metal known to man. The research is as follows:Pocket-protected scientists built a wall made of iron and crashed a diamond car into it at 400 miles per hour, and the car was unharmed. They then built a wall out of diamond and crashed a car made of iron moving at 400 miles an hour into the wall, and the wall came out fine. They then crashed a diamond car made of 400 miles per hour into a wall, and there were no survivors. They crashed 400 miles per hour into a diamond travelling at iron car. Western New York was powerless for hours. They rammed a wall made of metal into 400 miles an hour made of diamond, and the resulting explosion shifted earths orbit 400 million miles away from the sun, saving the earth from a meteor the size of a small Washington suburb that was hurtling towards mid-western Prussia at 400 billion miles an hour. They shot a diamond made of iron at a car moving at 400 walls per hour, and as a result caused over 10000 wayward planes to lose track of their bearings, and make a fatal crash with over 10000 buildings in downtown New York. They spun 400 miles at diamond into iron per wall. The results were inconclusive. Finally, they placed 400 diamonds per hour in front of a car made of wall travelling at miles per iron, and the result proved with out a doubt that diamonds were the hardest metal of all time, if not just the hardest metal known to man.
>>61436619It's not the strongest material, it's only the strongest metal
>>61436619well then it wouldnt be a kevlar vest, it would be a diamond vest
>>61436619Diamonds are not, in fact, the strongest material.
>>61436619I would have thought one of those rappers that are constantly getting shot would have survived due his diamond encrusted gold chain blocking the bullet
Diamond isn't a metal.
>>61436884What also floats in water? - Bread. - Apples. - Very small rocks. - Cider! Great gravy.
>>61436619Diamond isn't a metal, it's a polymer.
>>61436619because diamond vests are made of kevlar
>>61436619Cause it's too heavy. 1 gram of diamond weighs something like 15 grams.
>>61436636Sounds like commie dibbel.>Da oppressaz have jewelry in dey clothes let's get em!
>>61436717Sapphire, actuallyThere was a funny thread a year or two ago where an actually intelligent OP asked why it wasnt used for plates (it is)
>>61436727>>61436889>I stayed up all night making the Tsar's royal borscht to cheer him up, all for NOTHING. Fuck outta here.
>>61436757>not Slayer KYS
>>61436619because it's heavya gram of diamomd probably weighs like 16 grams
>>61436680>>61436705>>61437132>>61437181Memes aside, Synthetic diamond in sufficient quantity might actually make a fairly decent strike face for a ceramic plate. Similarly, super-hard materials overperform in small arms as AP, even if they're less dense than other materials, so we might actually get diamond cored rounds.
>>61436619Hardest =/= strongest for all applications
>>61436889>Who the fuck is he even meant to be?Eugene Botkin, the Romanovs' primary physician>The cook?The cook, Ivan Kharitonov, was also murdered.
Things are made because they're cheap, not because they're effective and I image bulletproof vests made from diamond would be the farthest thing from cost effective.
>>61438354Shockingly, it might actually be good in certain ballistic contexts.
>>61436619Because we make kevlar vests out of kevlar you fucking retard.
>>61436619*strongest metal
>>61436696Diamond is absolutely a mineral you fuckwit. It occurs naturally, has regular interference colors and has a repeating crystal structure. Tetrahedral, if I remember correctly.
>>61437097That's the good stuff.
>>61438552As a Linux user myself, this is true
>>61437744>>61436810It wasn't fully documented until after gommunism fell and the soviet archives were opened in 1991, you dolts.
>>61436619If rubber is the bounciest material why dont they make kevlar vests out of it?
>>61438348>it's the year 2120>the VA has denied fifteen-thousand disability applications in a week because it considers "bling blung", a condition similar to asbestosis resulting from exposure to shattering body armour plates and bullets resulting in crystalline residue not filtered out by oxymasks collecting in the lungs, to not be a real condition
>>61436636>They sewed their jewels>Commies breached our gate!>Natasha fire up the sewing machine!
>>61440509>bling blung
>>61440601You wouldn't? They were fucking royalty, I'm sure there's some heirloom shit in there and could've been used to start a new life if they got out of the country, or at least bribe the checkpoints.Same shit with Marie Antionette. Hell there's the rumor that they raped the underage girls with their fingers, but it turns out they were looking for more jewels up the pussy when they were already dead.It doesn't even make sense to make it communist propaganda. They actively suppressed it because some of the country wanted a return to the stability of the czardom. Kind of like when they eliminated religion, that doesn't mean everyone became atheist.
>>61437769newfag
>>61436708>>61438541>being this new>>>/reddit/
>>61436619its only the strongest metal. why dont we make diamonds out of kevlar to make them bulletproof?on a serious note, diamond would actually make a decent materical for trauma plates>hard but brittlethats the point of trauma plates. you use the hard material with a tougher backing and some layers of kevlarwould it be better than boron carbide? maybe not. extreme hardness isnt that important as long as its much harder than the bullet and boron carbide is a little bit lighter and might have better crack propagation properties (for multi hit protection). cubic boron nitride is easy to make and is harder and more similar to diamond, but its not used very much for armori could also see diamond-like-carbon being useful, maybe layered with some ceramic or metal because its easy to make thin layers of it and delamination like effects soak up energy
>>61436810>>61437744>>61439839>>61440601>Commie propaganda features them bludgeoning women and children to death.Really?
>>61443142Unironically yes, Commies will tell a story about killing little children and think you'll sympathize with them.
>>61437097>They shot a diamond made of iron at a car moving at 400 walls per hourThank you.
>>61443142Anon, they’re proud of this shit
>>61436619Aside from being bait, isn't this the logic behind silicon carbide and boron carbide armor? It's only a little softer than diamond.
>>61440601if you bothered to read a book you would have known they were living in their palace under house arrest for 6 months before being moved to their final location where they lived for another 2 months before they were murdered there you stupid zoomerfaggot. go play your pokemon dumbass
>>61443731>>61443891The details of killing the family and servants was deliberately covered up by the Bolsheviks. The fuck are you idiots on about?
>>61443142They were Vatnik-Kraut mongrels so it was well deserved.
>all these newfags
As one of /k/'s resident richfags, I will actually get a bunch of diamond powder, then put it into carbon fiber and s-glass cloth matrices with epoxy resin before hitting it with some transonic BBs to see how well it performs versus diamond-free laminates.>>61440467rubber is actually surprisingly good against rifle rounds, it has sheer-thickening properties
>>61437769dumb fucking newfagAlso, Slayer is just Iron Maiden in faster
>>61444224What does that have to do with the first post you quoted, we were dealing in hypotheticals the second he questioned the story on the grounds of "reasonableness"
>>61444648We're not talking about hypotheticals, but historical fact. That's like walking into a holocaust didn't happen but it should have argument. It's retarded. You're retarded.
>>61436891reading the descriptions of these things was like reading the descriptions of an amateur writer's SCP
>tfw no ultrahard fullerite strike plate
>>61446593mixed 1D and 2D carbon nanotubes along with graphene oxide have already been tested as additives for laminated armor with fairly good results, up to about a 50% increase in performance at sub-1% concentrations in resiny'all can google scholar that shit lmao
>>61436661UHMW is old news with too much backface deformation. The new shit is M5/PIPD.
>>61436619Because strength is measured by the amount of energy the materials can consume before critical failure. Ceramics and diamonds may be the hardest, but the energy consumed is quite low. All strongest materials are metals. One would say Tungsten is strongest but here we face another problem. Tungsten is hexagonal. Hexagonal metals have limited slide directions. This means they are brittle and will fail quicker. Therefore strongest metal would be something like trip Steel as it can deform for long time while still consuming lots of energy in process
>>61436636>>61436810I know of a family that fled to Taiwan and they did the same thing - sewed jewelry into their clothes hemmesIf you’re a landowner, and the party is killing landowners, you can’t evacuate with your land but obviously you want to evacuate with as many assets as possible >>61436680>Accidentally inventing ceramics
>>61448030Hardness is the overriding factor with personal body armor, however. At least as a surface layer, to disrupt the shape of a penetrator. I know the thread is a joke, but synthetic diamond might actually make a valuable armor component, at the small arms scale.
>>61444779Listen kike, the post I responded to was this>>61443142>Commie propaganda features them bludgeoning women and children to death.>Really?Which was suggesting that the nature of the story would make communists unwilling to brag about it, to which I responded that communists have bragged about worse. Which is a fact. Not that it happened. Not that it didn't happen. I commented on a specific point, you imbecile.
>>61448000>People have been hyping it for 20 years>Still can't buy it anywhere
>>61448281>>61448030Big difference between high (>mach 2) and low velocity impacts aka pistols v rifles: you need ultra-hard material to fragment rifle rounds so they can be caught efficiently by stronger materials.If your rifle armor is too brittle, it will just fragment (youtube the guy who tried ball bearing armor), but materials like kevlar need impractical thickness of like 2"+ to catch rifle rounds. So you really need multiple materials here; the hard shit breaks up the round, the softer backer shit catches its fragments.
if you shoot at it, it breaks
Why don't they make bulletproof vests out of ERA?
>>61448396>2" of kevlar to catch rifle roundsI think I found the answer
>>61448488if u fill it with diamonds, probably.pistol-rated vests are not the answer (spoiler alert: talks a half dozen stacked up to eat A.P. rounds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zErupXARACI
>>61436619Did steve type this?
>>61448482TBI
>>61448305The nature of the story is documented you absolute dumbfuck. Your point is stupid and has nothing to do with anything, especially because the exact event was covered up by commie kikes in the first place proving your speculation completely the antithesis of your claims.
Look, we all know diamonds is the strongest metal. Making a level 25 plate out of diamonds would be a peace of cake, BUT CONSIDER the spawling.Metal plates like steel spawl when hit with lead, so it's only fair to assume that diamonds plates would also spawl if hit with steel bullets
>>61448941>The nature of the story is documented you absolute dumbfuckIrrelevant to the point I responded to, you straw grasping faggot.>proving your speculation completely the antithesis of your claims.What claims, retard? I want to hear what you THINK I said, it'll be good for a laugh.
>>61449221You said that communist kikes would boast about killing random women and children instead of having their propaganda arm covering it up. 100% the opposite in the EXACT scenario that we even began talking about, and even Pol Pot's retarded ass didn't do this.It would go against the whole fucking program, and they'd have their secret police snatch you up. Even as recent as the concentration camps of the uyghur muslims in China.I reiterate, you are a fucking moron.
>>61436619it'll start an arms race with diamond bullets
>>614490851. diamond is not a metal2. there are harder materials, such as aggregate diamond nanorods3. it is spelled "spall"4. that is what "spall lining" is designed to defeat, lol
>>61436619this is a real thing that is being researched as a powder mixed with silicon carbidehttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272884223031735pic related article abstract from Ceramics International Feb 2024
>>61437097Came here to post this. Best part:>The results were inconclusive.
>>61443142there are tankies you can visit in /his/ right at this moment who will actively celebrate the murder of the romanovs if you mention it to them. So yeah its not that surprising
>>61436619The strongest element on earth,’is our faith in Israel and gods chosen people
>>61436619>why dont they make kevlar vests out of it?not sure if trolling, but kevlar is literally diamond fibers
>>61438604that is how it works, yeah
>>61443759it's a classic
>>61451607no, doofus! kevlar is Poly(azanediyl-1,4-phenyleneazanediylterephthaloyl)there are stronger organic fibers, such as polyhydroquinone-diimidazopyridine
>>61436636>those two commies who tried to finger the czarina's corpsewhat a bunch of subhumans
>>61436619hardest materialhard=/=strong
>>61452128OP is a meme, but Harder is functionally universally better for the strike face of a hard piece of armor.
>>61449273>You said that communist kikes would boast about killing random women and children instead of having their propaganda arm covering it up.yes, because they have.
>>61436619because then it wouldn’t be kevlar it would be a diamond vest
>>61436636Sounds like more kike lies.
Aren't there some spider silks that are stronger than diamonds?
>>61436696It's a mineral, Marie
>>61436619Memes aside, graphine composite armor has potential for use with ceramic as part of armor plates. The kevlar part of armor is the ductile backing that keeps bits of the ceramic from poking you too much.
>>61436691Not dense enough. Tungsten and DU have the best density and hardness and are fairly cheap. W > Pb > Cu > Fe
>>61438348Diamond tipped tungsten rounds?Geneva question for warfare if the diamond tip runs afoul the "must be detectable by x-ray" would still be okay for anti-vehicle use.
>>61436619>diamond is the strongest materialWrong
>>61453371density is not really what rifle armor is about, it's more about hardness on the strike plate and strength on the backing.
>>61453371Nobody cares about density. Also lead would be horrible personal armor because of being so soft.
>>61436619Expensive as fuck. Only rappers can afford them.
>>61436757No. It really fucking isn't you queermo.
>>61460151Dumb newfag
>>61460151You are responding to a meme old enough to vote.
>>61444235One, the last Russian Romanov was like 500 years before Nicky, they were pure Germans by his day.Two, I heavily suspect you're some breed of subhuman who resents that he needed a master to keep his illiterate ancestors from raping and pillaging.
>>61453371We should make it out of Osmium. It's like 20% denser than Tungsten
>>61460014silly anon, everyone knows rappers don't wear body armor
>>61436745You don't want to make your enemy filthy rich(also you need to coat them with teflon so your guns don't get worn so fast)
>>61438435Synthetic diamond, especially ones not made to be cut into jewels, aren't as expensive to manufacture as you might think.I think I saw a pound of synthetic diamond, as in like not gemstones but diamond powder for industrial use, was only around $100, but I could just be completely wrong since that was just me seeing some listing on Amazon or somewhere and not actually looking at what the product was, so take that with a grain of salt.And it seems to me that if you really want to make armor from diamonds you'd want to use diamond powder over some more soft material such as steel, essentially going for a super scaled down and thinner version of how battleship composite armors were made with a super hard but brittle outside and a soft steel or iron inner wall.
>>61444433>Take non-newtonian fluid ie; silly putty >Mix in diamond dust>Form into sheet, hold in place over plate with outer shell layer>Shoot it>???Curious to know how the hardness of diamond powder would interact with being suspended in a non Newtonian fluid. I don't imagine it would be anything worthwhile but it still sounds like an interesting experiment.Just don't breathe it in. I heard breathing in diamond powder will literally shred your veins from the inside.
>>61464015>bullet strikes solid, large piece of superhard material>front half of the bullet is shattered, along with a section of the armor>bullet hits diamond dust>pushes dust out of the way???>>61464015>bullet hits gel with dust in it>pushes dust out of the way???????????Do you not understand how the hard material breaks the bullet?
>>61464015I have an SCBA, which is probably the only safe way to work with diamond powder.I think silica could probably work as a sheer-thickening additive with diamond powder, but I have not seen literature on that exact combo.
What about armor made from prince ruperts drops
>>61471280Just imagine making armor with bulletproof glass (same without the tail weakness), it should work but probably not a good idea.
>>61471280>Make an armor vest out of prince ruperts drops>Put all the tails in the back where they'll be more protected>Now you're a video game boss with a special weak point
>>61437097Hell yeah. Inject me with that drug.
>>61436619some kind of very hard rubber impregnated with lots of fine diamond and silica powder, along with nanotubes and graphene, may be the best strike face against rifles
>>61452116Hey, if there's gems everywhere else? Worth a look.
hard =/= stronge.g. my dick
all of you are so fucking new go beg for greentexts on /x/ or someshit
>>61472293Anon the hardness of a strike face requires large solid pieces to make a difference.
