Tu-22 shot down over Stavropol, Russia
>>61444614I hope it landed on an elementary school.
>Stavropol>~500km behind the current frontlinesAh, so that's what air defense doing.
>>61444695Showing just how effective it is. By shooting down their own planes while letting Ukrainian drones pass unmolested.
>>61444695300km
Someone made a reverse version of this clip in the other thread and I thought it was pretty neat.
>Spinning Tu-22 with free bird
>"Budanov, he did it">"He bombed?">"Yes. He's returning to base">"Crash eet"
>>61444754VTOL technology xaxaxaxa
>>61444614Why is it dropping straight down? Shouldn't it have a curve?
>>61444754the flight never ends
>>61444879Look up flat spin.
They expect one of us in the wreckage brother!
How many do they have?:
>>61444917>Russian Aerospace Forces – 63 were in service as of 2018.Probably less than half in 2022. Probably less than half of that in working condition.
>>61444614Nice CGI fire, that's an Su-35 doing post stall maneuvers at an air show dumb hohol
>>61444880>I want to get off Monke's wild ride
>>61444936>"REEE~ LIES!1111"kek zigger classic
Either a catastrophic engine failure or an another friendly-fire incident; there’s no way any Ukie AD is that far inside of Russian territory. Has Fighterbomber confirmed which?
>>61444994The A-50 was downed at around that distance.
>>61444695shooting down bombers, apparently. honestly I have no idea how the fuck Ukraine could have possibly hit it that far back.
>>61445040Could be the russian freedom legion that managed to acquire some aa systems.
>>61444994From what we can gather so far, the Ukies claim to have hit it with an S-200 when it was flying back from bombing Odessa and it lost control and crashed as it was coming back in over the Russian border.
>>61444754
>>61444754Reminds me of the gym lifts webm where people pass out in reverse.
flight status?
>>61445107Okay, which of you cheeky fucks did this?
>>61445107>it's real
>>61444695Russian air defence forces got upset because another S-400 was detroyed, and decided to show that they can indeed shoot down aircraft.
Eternal spin, Zister!
Oh man the shills are going to be awful today
>>61444614Oh man, I hope it hurt.
>>61445057Well over 1,000 km away from Ukie-controlled territory?
>>61445347Maybe it limped home and the airframe gave out after crossing the border.
>>61445461That wouldn't induce a flat spin.
>>61445486Bullshit it wouldn't. You don't know dick about the aerodynamics of a tu-22 without a tail section.
>>61444754eternal flight
>>61444614Why to Russian planes flatspin so fucking much? the rare footage of US/Euro planes getting shot down they just divebomb until the end but I swear every fucking Russian plane footage i've seen is this, similar to every russian tank being a part of the space program (whish at least with the autoloaders and ammo storage makes sense)
>>61444754Do you think that black dust is magnetic? Is that how the plane is being sucked up?
>>61444754https://youtu.be/0voQi_HOYdY?t=244
>>61445550The plane was flying. Lost its tail. You would be hard pressed to induce a flat spin without the elevators and ruder.
>>61444614It was an Ukrainian TU-22
>>61444614So this is why they were chimping out yesterday.
>>61445944They're always chimping out.
>>61444754Is this what getting raptured is like?
>>61445107>backfire We can see that
>>61444614Ok, USA has the excuse of being capitalist, but what is Russia's, they are showing an strategic bomber yet you can see in the video that russian lives in a shanty. What? It was ukrainian Stavropol?
>>61445906>You would be hard pressed to induce a flat spin without the elevators and ruder.That's the default state of any plane without a tail.
>>61445936It was carrying Ukrainian POV's shill.
>>61444614>Try autorotating it to the ground Ivan>its a good trick!
>>61445596>Why to Russian planes flatspin so fucking much?Military design where effectiveness > safety, agility over stability, heavy engines at the back, delta wing means high aoa when slow making a wing drop more severe, lacks modern smart control systems, crew fatigue due to being russian.
>>61446099When interrupting forward motion?
Flight status?
>>61446196Circling the landing area
>>61446180Yeah. Assuming the wings don't break off in the transition to the spin, that's going to happen. The body of most aircraft is designed to have the tail solely stabilise the yaw axis. Without it, any small permutation on the yaw axis will exacerbate. There's no countering force whatsoever, so the spin keeps happening.
>>61445100> The RaptureBeat me to it
>>61444614explain to me why is he landing from up down in a straight line and not speedy perpendicular direction as should at his speed?
>>61446264>The Rapeture
>>61445107
>>61444754Went back to the sky under its own power
Someone with Telegram please post Fighterbomber's take on it. I assume his post ends in "eternal flight brothers"I need a good kek
>>61445884That's actually really cool. I was expecting it to go horribly wrong and was pleasantly surprised when it didn't.
>>61446791No Fighter Bomber yet, all we have are steel eggs and everlasting memory.
A friend of mine who’s a vatnik but also tends to have a lot of sources says the pilots ejected safely, but I don’t see Andy chutes in the vid. Do we have any proof in either direction?
memory status?
>>61446862The current story is that three of the crew managed to bail, but the fourth tried to land the plane and for some reason was unable to eject himself after it went into a spin. Since the cockpit shatters upon ejection, it's possible the fourth one just passed out from lack of oxygen and died in the attempt.
>>614468621 dead, 3 savedSource: russian news tg channel
>>61446851he did post. three of the crew survived, one died.
>>61446862See>>61446885And >>61446890But i would take it with a grain of salt. Its hard to prove it did/didnt and sounds like classic vatnig cope.
>>61446851Ty-22 have notoriously fucked up ejection system, droping chairs down through the floor, not up from the cockpit. It is obviously queationable system in case if aircraft is in flat spin, with reliability issues on top of that.http://www.airforce.ru/aircraft/miscellaneous/ejectionseats/tu/tu-22.htm
>>61446120It was a planned crash. We didint want that plane
>>61444994The Ukies are claiming they downed it. They say it was down with a modified S-200 and they posted a video on twitter of the SAM crew that did it. Personally, i'm leaning towards engine failure.
>>61446791Just the usual cope.
>>61444754New VTOL TU-22 obr 2024
>>61447260>You didn't shoot down our aircraft, it just fell out of the sky on its own power!God damn what a cope.
>>61447055Wrong Tu-22 anon.
>>61447342>>61447055Yeah, the M is a totally different hull. The original TU-22 was a horrible failure and this is presumably the usual russian attempt to muddy the waters.
>>61447430>The supersonic booze carrier and Backfire get the same number >Every body kit of the Flanker gets a new number
>>61447430The 22M has also had a questionable history with ejections. The pilot has an override that punches out the other crew but then has to manually punch out afterwards. Last time it was fired, it was fired on accident on the ground resulting in 3 deaths (the seats are not 0-0) AND the pilot being hospitalized. One has to wonder if the pilot being injured was a result of the 0-0 ejection or if it's due to poor design and it always happens
>>61444614Damn! Are they okay?
>>61447260Can anyone explain what a crest is? Do they mean like bird crests or showing off?
>>61444614YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND MONKE RIGHT ROUNDLIKE A RECORD MONKE RIGHT ROUND ROUND ROUND
>>61444614This is what WORK FOR REAL MEN looks like. You wouldn't get it.
>>61445056Been saying it for weeks. Putin doesn't control Russia. It's becoming feudal. Pockets of whites are holding areas as backlash against the importing of mainly indians. Lynchings have popped up. If Putin doesn't pay usually in gasoline people roam free. The opera house for instance.The war is effectively over for Russia. It's just a ticking clock now.
>>61447260So he indirectly confirms by lying that isis is not responsible for thrater attack. That suggests he is also lying about this as well.
>>61445121You can check the IP and report it to the FSB. Wikipedia crimes will be punished
>>61446851So many everlasting memories of downed flyers, I can't keep track and I'm starting to forget, anon...
>>61448113>crestDoesn't that refer to the stereotypical Ukrainian Cossack hairstyle?
>>61446791Fighterbomber has been sanitized and stopped being interesting, desu. Even the reaction emoji list has been sanitized, the most negative emotion you can choose is a "thumbs down", alongside the "thumbs up", "fire", "salute" emojis. Ukrainians are lucky that Russians are retards who spend way too much time and money finding ridiculous means to deal with the public perception of events.
>>61448113>>61448493yes, it's what khohol translates into
>>61448243>1,500,000 RUBThat's like $5 USD right?
>>61448243>upon conclusion of the contractAhahahaha
>>61448243>Payment upon conclusion of the contractI see what they did there.
>>61448243That is absolutely vile.$16,000+ USD if you somehow survived your contract. >>61448557>16,000 USD
>>61448243"Up to." lmao
Look, I can see their parachutes! They're okay
>>61447260>use crests as insult>it's actually a cool nameHow are Russians failures at literally everything?
>>61448542So all this time, whenever the Russians said hohol, they just meant crest, in reference to a hairstyle? Haaaa. Seems pretty tame compared to what they get called by us.
>>61448243>>61448784Every time you see some faggot cry about poor lil' mobik getting droned while he cries crocodile tears and begs for mercy, you should remember that it's infinitely more likely he voluntarily signed up to invade and kill his neighbors for just a couple thousand USD.
>>61444754Has anyone dubbed Koyaanisqatsi to it yet? Seems maybe running the vid backward & forward in eternal loop with that playing would be ... kino.
>>61445107>>61444880>>61444754>>61446355I'll be sad when/if Ukraine loses but I'll always have the laughs I had along the way.
>>61447055The Vulcan had shitty ejection systems too, its a quirk of being an early jet bomber design, crew survivability was a low priority.
>>61448708>>61448784Lost in translation.It's signing bonus.
>>61452175Genius. Excellent idea. With the vid cropped to the plane and slowed like 20%.
>>61448286Arr the Free Russians still fighting around Belograd? I've not been paying much attention last few weeks. Last I heard the Russian media was just ignoring it and fighting was ongoing.
>>61447541https://youtube.com/watch?v=NmHSFxZuOwM
>>61452175>>61452211> Vatnik Out of BalanceThere are several flat-spin vids out now, so a compilation by a talented soul might be justified. In some cases, flipping the vid vertically and also running it forward & backward with normal orientation and properly cropped seems to have some Real Genius editing possibilities. Just start splicing & mixing/matching sequences and you've got a hypnotic eternal video.Hmmm. Expanding on that, there are some Turret Toss Olympics contenders would benefit from the same treatment. I can't do it, me am noskillz in this way. But ... if anyone feels inspired ... I would appreciate the Hell out of it and love them for a long time. catbox it for large file size, or /wsg/ them if they can fit well in a webm.
>>61444754>You lift me uuuuup
>>61444614Stupid hohol. It's doing emergency landing via autorotation.
>>61448243
>>61451714This. Fucking rusniggers cry crocodile tears all the time. There's a reason why all of eastern europe hates those faggots
>>61448243What an offer. Sign me up
>>61444614It'll buff out, right!
>>61452336RIGHT!!!!!
>>61452215No, they announced the hot phase of their incursion was over
>>61452374What was the result/impact if known?Just a raid, some damage but not much of consequence?
>>61452393Transformation of Grayvoron, Kozinka and south Bilgorod into a sanitary zone.
>>61444933That’s a bit overly optimistic, they probably have 45 in service and 33 actually functioning. Well, 32 now
>>61448784it's just a signing bonus actually, the amount keeps shooting to the moon as recruitment dwindles since every region has to fulfill its quota, I think it was below 1 mil last monththat is a SHITLOAD of money in Russia
>>61448243A copywriter is trying to play with my emotions by using the "real men" slogan, when real men would not fall for slogans. Cognitive dissonance.
>>61452276Their fighting spirit shines through the screen.
>>61448784To be fair, adjusted for purchasing power parity, 16k is like 60k. If the USAF was offering a 60k signing bonus for my AFSC, I’d probably reenlist
>>61452499>If the USAF was offering a 60k signing bonus for my AFSC, I’d probably reenlistIf it meant being sent to assault trenches in the Donbass in a Chinese golf cart I'm pretty sure you wouldn't.
>>61452534True, but I doubt the Russians know they will be driving unarmored golf carts. They still believe the myth that Russia is stronk with infinite tanks.
>>61452534The difference is that you live in comfort and they pretty much already live in a demo Donbass trench.
>>61452276>Man, Vladimir is fucking up!>Hey man, they're promising $1M Rubles to fight against the Ukrainians!>*days later*>Man, I fucked up.
>>61452220Heh
>>61452184>I'll be sad when/if Ukraine losesOkay, pidoras, time to go join the cube.
>>61452544Krasnodar is a quite prosperous southern region
>>61452726I'm 100% cheering on Ukraine and want Europeon goverments to actually throw their full support behind them. But I also recognise that Russia can maintain a war of attrition for a lot longer than Ukriane can, and western support is needed to make the casualties unsustainable for Russia and also protect Ukraines infrastructure. If Trump wins the presidency then it might actually be over, though what Russian victory actually looks like is up for debate, they might just take all of Donetsk region and declare victory over HATO.
>>61451714I wouldn't care even if he was a conscription. They had their chance to desert, surrender, switch sides. Cooperation is consent and complicity. Cowardice at the moment of payback is not worth pity.
>>61444614No you cocksucker! Fucking Bandits! It had a mechanical malfunction!
>>61452791That's not the place they get volunteers from. It's for shithole villages in the middle of nowhere where there's nowhere else to earn money from.
>>61444614>>61444754russian vtol
>>6145239320.000 belgorod kids killed by hohol nazis
>>61444614I hope the entire crew died.
>>61453013I can't believe Ivan was smoking again!How does he keep getting away with it?
>>61444879>>61444892To monkey brain it, flat spin is what happens when you start falling out of the fucking sky and don't have enough sky left to recover.The plane doesn't follow a ballistic trajectory because the aero is still providing lift/drag. The lift/drag is equalizing forces on both wings, and the front and back of the plane.So the air is pushing the plane up equally from the bottom, and the plane is falling downwards at the same speed everywhere, so the only forces not in balance anymore are rotational forces on the X plane.There's no balance because there's no counter-acting force, so whichever side was slightly heavier, or whichever way the wind was blowing strongest is how the plane is going to spin.This is a long range strategic bomber, so it is very stable in flight, which means very susceptible to flat spins.
>>61444614He tried spinning, isn't that a good trick?
>>61444879You really have never had mathematics in you college?
>>61444695
>>61452499>To be fair, adjusted for purchasing power parity, 16k is like 60kIt's even more. This is almost 3x the yearly income of a middle of the road pidor.
>>61452791>prosperousby non-moscow russia standards
>>61445107>NATO Callsign BackfireThe spooks knew.
>>614532172 out of 4 died, including the captain
>>61444614>Koyaanisblyatsi
>>61448243do u have the non-translated version of this? asking for a friend
>>61445461>>61445347It got hit around 200 to 500 km off the border, it wasn't hit near the city.
>>61446862>>614468852 of the crew got wasted inside the plane the other 2 ejected.
>>61448243>Local governor involved in recruitment and financing of unitsSounds medieval.
>>61452310Did he really get wasted? Finally? I hope he did but I think this would be bigger news if it happened.
>>61452215>>61452374>>61452393They're still in the border regions, they stopped offensive operations deeper than that and just stay ambushing and harassing border units and outposts and RU military and paramilitary units passing by.
The US just passed the Ukraine funding bill BTW.
>>61454279>fundingwithout shells useless
>>61448113It's a toothpaste brand Ukrainians like very much.
>>61448113Crest is not hohol. Crest is an elongated thing on roosters head. Rooster means faggot. Anything with a crest is a faggot. Dragon is a rooster with a crest aloing the whole back. So if anyone calls you dragon you now know what he meant, remember this one day this knowledge may save your life.Hohol is a tuft of hair which looks like picrelated.
>>61452374why niggas talking about what they doing in social media....
>>61452310Was this the guy from vice news
>>61452957Trump wants to loan Ukraine trillions
>>61444614Pilot and crew is alive HATOcucs )))They release lit tunehttps://www.udio.com/songs/vajPhzcRnr6b5EURTGNZiT
another irreplaceable museum piece gone
>>61452336barely used, good as new
was russel bentley (the tankie from Autism, Texas) alleged torture and execution discussed here? I missed it when it happenedhttps://nypost.com/2024/04/20/world-news/pro-kremlin-texan-russell-bentley-found-dead-in-ukraine/All the interesting side quest bosses seem to be killed off screen
>>61444695Should had asked how it's doing.
>>61461219I lold
>>61448784>$16,000+ USD if you somehow survived your contract.Holy fuck, I get paid 4x that to sit in a climate controlled office doing a job I don't hate with people I can tolerate, and I only have to worry about METAPHORICAL anal rape when I fuck up or the boss calls for OT volunteers.
>>61452276Everyone's all>lol niggerbut no one seeing the fucking eyeless controller on the left
>>61462383Yeah but cost of living in rural Russia is like pennies a year, not counting alcohol.
>>61462413>Yeah but cost of living in rural Russia is like pennies a year, not counting alcohol.Yeah but then you've gotta live in a house where the shitter is a hole in the ground in the back yard half the time.
>>61462420>Yeah but then you've gotta live in a house where the shitter is a hole in the ground in the back yard half the time. luxury, usually you just shit in a bucket and bour it on that huge stinking pile of shit and garbage on the other side of the mud road
>>61460707The side quest this time was torturing and wasting a communist though, 1000+ EXP gained.
>>61461219Found dead or alive?
>>61454271he was just a lolcow tankie who went to don-fucking-bass in the middle of a war to fight for nothingyou now remember gonzalo lyra, another poccnr martyr
>>61455482Nah, crest is Google's version of translation of "hohol">pictelatedIs one of types, called "chupryna" and it was actually only worn behind the left ear(pic).Another one is "chub"-"... was trimmed like this: above the forehead, on the temples and on the back of the head, the hair was shaved or cut close to the body, and only in the middle of the head was a palm-wide, round strand of long hair left. That hair was combed in all directions and cut in a circle, higher above the forehead and lower at the nape of the neck. In this way, the shaved places were covered with the chub and it seemed that the head was covered with hair; only when hair rolled in the wind did the bare skull open, and from that the man's face became wildly majestic and warlike"
>>61462875Btw, the mere existence of chub haircut suggests that there wasn't any issue with balding in Ukraine until russian mongoloids came
>>61462708dead.it says "eternal flight". that's something you wish someone that died.
>>61462875>lift your fake hair and bare your bald head to greatly intimidate the enemy
>>61444754https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQ_ZozZIio
>>61462922Well, not fake, it's still your own hairAnd it was 16-18 century, mind you. This and then powdered wigs&shit was peak male fashion in Western Europe back then
>>61444614Sorry! We didn't know it's too fast!Reminder, Puccian hypersonics scientist was sentenced to 7 years in prison and he's 72 years old.
>>61453678Underrated kek
>>61444994Is it possible Ukraine has infiltrators with Stingers or Iglas inside Russia to shoot at them as they return to land?
>>61465946why would a bomber fly low enough to be in manpad range?
>>61465996When it's landing. Infiltrators on the ground wait for it to take off, knowing it'll be back and knowing the return approach.
>>61444842>Budanovfeeding worms for 2 weeks already.
>>61454287Good thing a large part of it is going to be shells then.
>>61462306>take me to the river, drop me in the water>ejecting me down, ejecting me
>>61445070Secto-kek
>>61466725I haven’t heard that one before.
>>61466725We're back to "xaxaxa Budanov, Zelensky, and Zaluzhniy are all dead for several months" cope, huh
>>61453655heuheu
>>61455819yeah, sure he fucking does
>>61467384DESU, I'm skeptical on any stance Trump has minute to minute. He campaigned heavily on an anti-war platform, meanwhile he had the balls to sign off on Soleimani's assassination, which shocked even the hawks in his admin. Meanwhile we've got the Biden admin trying to play nice with those towelheads and, most recently on Ukraine, trying to meddle with strikes on oil infrastructure and implying it's a war crime, which is ridiculous.
>>61444614Aren't powerlines supposed to be straight
>>61467395Yeah, really weird how the Biden administration is trying to not go down in history as 100% complicit in a genocide and ethnic cleansing. How peculiar. mvr0
>>61467412yeah maybe if the sandniggers hadn't decided to attempt suicide by cop, they wouldn't end up being bombed to dust all at once, who'd have thunk
>>61453310Math is for gay nerds
>>61455819Trump’s grand strategy to end the war is telling Ukraine to surrender
>>61444614>shot down lmao sure let me guess you gonna claim the tu 22 was flying at 60.000ft with minimal tailwind ?because the s200 wont reach it otherwise
>>61467552Based anon. Tell em! Its tail merely caught on fire in a routine accident!
>>61462890What’s up with Russian men and shaved heads? Is it illegal to grow hair in Russia?
>>61467669All of Russia is extremely influenced by prison (Gulag) culture since something like 10% of the population went through the gulag system at the height of it. You get shaved when you go in, and hygiene becomes easier if you have no hair for lice and flees.
>>61444695Wat the AA doin?
>>61467636we literally have pictures of the wreckage anon there is no blast fragmention damage what so everit probably had an engine flame out and couldnt generate enough lift with one engine (russian..)
>>61461219so the bottom ejecting seats dont work?
>>61467409not in russia
>>61445884Neat. Like that the parachute worked and didn't tangle up with the way it was tumble falling.
>>61467035
>>61452220GDI, I wasted 45 seconds waiting for that bastard to come crashing back down and he didn't.
>>61453655
>>61455482I see u an expert in the crests
>>61444614Flat spins every time. Shouldn't they nose down to avoid this or does the plane just level out after the pilot ejects/passes out?
>>61469221You can nose down, but, it may cause oscillation and over G, or just make it worse as you now are screaming towards the ground even faster, not allowing time to recover. It also depends on the ability to effectively use you flight surfaces. Usually opposite rudder nose slightly negative AOA and you're good. But that is totally dependent on the plane. Some like full rudder into the spin, some oppositr, and dome just won't recover.
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