Doesn't even need to look just like it. Just a big break action revolver will do, I'll take .500 mag too. It would be neat if they could have it fire from the bottom though so the barrel could be in the same place, I know that Russian 12.5mmx70 "assault" revolver does this.
This too. In .30-06 ideally.
a bolt action 9mm rifle that takes a common pistol mag.this will never exist since its cheaper to make a semiauto.
>>61468740I'd like a shockwave style gun as a double barrelled break action. It's not out of the realm of possibility, but it's unlikely appeal to zoomers.I might be able to make a .350 legend or .300 Blackout bolt action pistol legally out of virgin parts, but I haven't looked into it.I'd like more 10mm options in general. Most options are glocks and 9/11s. If HK made a steel framed 10mm I'd coom. A metal slab of a gun, more sensible and refined than a desert eagle, but still slightly unhinged.>>61468750I will never get my Delisle Carbine copypcat as long as the NFA exists.
I want to see full-power takedown rifles with CRF becoming a mainstream thing rather than a folly for rich people. And I want them to be manufactured all over the world, so nobody would have to order them from abroad, be it Austria, England or US.
>>61468740>>61468745I too would like material science to be the same as video games.
nobody would buy it, including (you).
>>61468902That's the question of price, or being able to pay interest in the bank.
>>61468845>unlikely to appeal to zoomerswhy? it sounds like the super shotgun from doom. "legal sawn off double barrel !" would basically be the marketing
>>61468740Wasn't there a webley in 357 mag? Anderson Wheeler or something for like $7k.
>>61468942Ayyo man only two blastss? Thas's no bussin no cap I need a pump shotgun GYAT GYAT GYAT GYAT
>>61468845>I'd like a shockwave style gun as a double barrelled break action. It's not out of the realm of possibility,it actually is due to lawsshockwave has to exceed 26 overalla double barrel ends up with a 16.5-18 inch barrel depending on what gun it is and where you cut the stock to make the birdshead.you really going to do all that shit to save an inch of barrel? you could have just bought an 18-20 inch barreled shotgun and cut the stock off and it would still be legal.its going to look just as stupid as your proposed double barreled shotgun since the barrels have to be long.
>>61468926There's also the question (which was settled over 100 years ago) as to whether top-break revolvers can handle powerful cartridges (they can't).
>>61468984I'm imagining a double barrel with the same overall length of a shockwave and I like it.An eighteen inch double barrel with a modified stock seems slightly more cumbersome, but I might be able to find a way to make it work.
>>61468996If it fires from the bottom chamber, then it's an upside down bottom-break revolver.
>>61468996Oh yes, I'm just not the guy who's concerned with top break revolvers, so I've never thought about it. Not my thing, I'd be fine with a swingout cylinder version of Magnum Research BFR, to make it a true New Vegas Hunting Revolver. And, of course, new legal status for handguns in my country.
>>61468996There's no reason why a top-break revolver can't handle powerful cartridges. Picrel is a top-break and it fires a cartridge far more powerful than any revolver. And it even did this with shitty 19th century steel. The problem with top-breaks in big calibers is that extreme precision is required, if the latch is even a little bit loose the gun will quickly batter itself to death. What OP is asking for is technically possible, it would just be outrageously expensive.
China uses these coil guns for less lethal rounds (you can dial the velocity up and down depending on the range of the target).I would really love to see some that hit or exceed firearms velocity some day. There are a million other reasons to try to get supercapacitors to work so I am sure we will see them some day. Basically a gun with super light, small ammo, variable velocity and ROF, and potentially much higher velocity, all while being quieter than an air rifle? Sign me up.
>>61469064>Picrel is a top-break and it fires a cartridge far more powerful than any revolver.Those have at least two locking lugs, if not three.
>>61469078I didn't think about dialing the velocity way down. Seems like you could then use it for training, which gets you closer to the real thing than blanks. Problem is that if they ever get much higher velocity than firearms they will kick like a mule, but I figure you can always stabilize it before you dial the velocity up.
>>61469078>china uses these coil gunsno they don't>>61468740>>61468902Break actions are the shit, I would absolutely buy something (similar). But the grip is too angled and the break action looks too fragile to handle the pressure and recoil impulse from whatever cartridge that is.
>>61469157>whatever cartridge that is.
>>61469097That has two, it's quite clearly a Jones underlever. But no matter, there's no reason why additional locking surfaces could not be added to a revolver, other than cost. Personally I think the Bissell Rising Bite style of lock would be very well suited to making OP's revolver, you can have two such locks, one on either side of the hammer, and combine that with an additional latch at the hinge for extra stability--basically the same thing that's done on more modern double rifles.
I want to see a modernized version of picrel. I don't even care if it looks exactly like the original or not. Make it closed top, chamber it in a modern revolver cartridge, make the shotgun barrel load like an M203 and take full-size modern shells.
>>61468740.50 submachinegun.
>>61468947What makes a revolver $7000?Materials can't be more than a $200.Machining and labor, $1500 max?200% markup for about $3000 is understandable.
>>61468750Spanish destroyer carbine and good luck
>>61468902I already own a Rhino. I absolutely would a Vash revolver.
>>61469178It's only .22 in the reboot. The OG is .45 LC
>>61468845>I'd like a shockwave style gun as a double barrelled break action. It's not out of the realm of possibility, but it's unlikely appeal to zoomers.This isn't a zoomer thing; it's just as unlikely to appeal to anybody else, relative to the shockwave. The shockwave's appeal is short barrel with no NFA hassle, and you don't get that with a break action.If you make a break-action with a short, shockwave-like grip, either the barrels have to be "normal" length (18+) to make the 26" OAL. Or you keep the short barrels, and it becomes an AOW. (Or an SBS if you make it from an existing shotgun, rather than a virgin receiver.)Good news is, if you want the first option, it's incredibly easy to DIY -- unlike the Shockwave, which must be made from a virgin receiver, or from a gun that came stockless from the factory, you don't need the "firearm" loophole, since the barrels and OAL both meet the minimum. So you can buy your choice of 18-20" barreled shotgun, and chop the buttstock down yourself. If you can do a nice job of it, nice; but if not, and it ends up looking like some bootlegger cut it down himself while partaking of his own product -- well, that just adds character and authenticity.And if you want the latter, there are actually a number of shops producing conversions for that niche market. For example, https://www.paladinarmory.com/newpage11.htm
>>61469349you're eating all of the R&D and prototyping cost as one of the 50 buyers for it
>>61468947Emphasis on was. It was more like $10k, and Anderson Wheeler is now out of business.>>61469349Anderson Wheeler was a super high end maker. It's like asking why Purdey shotguns or Ferraris are so expensive. Part of it is paying for the name.
>>61469552>The shockwave's appeal is short barrel with no NFA hassle, and you don't get that with a break action.I think the break-action is really no different. Again, the idea is to get the shortest configuration you can to work around NFA regulations, but it's just a different action type. A break-action doesn't have a bolt so the receiver is shorter, which means the barrels must be longer to reach the same 26" OAL, but the overall package is still the same size. It's not like the Shockwave matches the classic sawn-off aesthetic either as 26" is too long for that, but 26" is the closest you can get without going NFA or muzzleloader.
>>61468740Quadruple Barrel Break Action that can take .454 Casull or .410 Shotshells, with 6ish inch barrels. Basically a bigger Cop 357 Derringer. A modern Howdah Pistol.
>>61469552Thanks for the link. Their work looks good.I just want a different flavor of small shotgun without being an NFA item. Having a longer barrel is a bonus, not a detriment as I see it.
>>61469674>the overall package is still the same size.If people's desires were rational rather than emotional, that would be the relevant dimension.If.
>>61469674>Shockwave matches the classic sawn-off aesthetic eitherit totally doescause its sawn off to the magtube.the real sawed off pumps were like 1-2 inches shorter than a shockwave. the difference is all in the grip not the barrel length or receiver.something like this would be 24-25 inches long.
>>61469634Did they actually make some? Because fuck me if I missed out.
>>61468740The rsh-12 fires from the bottom chamber using a .500 cartridge based on .338 Lapua Mag.Prototypes were a little bare, but with a little work it's a perfect cyberpunk terror.
>>61469815Obviously break action is sexier. Need those rounds that can get through Level III+ for the Boston Dynamics dogos and the cyborgs.
>>61469828There is also this neato break action triple barrel space gun with two 12.7mm slugs and a .22 on the bottom.
>>61469834You mistook TOZ-81 for TP-82. TOZ-81 was a revolver prototype that lost the competition.
>>61469834Wrong pic up there. That's a different gun, also a break action revolver actually.
>>61469768It is the relevant dimension because it's the legal one.>>61469788>the real sawed off pumps were like 1-2 inches shorter than a shockwaveExactly. The shockwave isn't correct either.
>>61469797I don't know if they ever made any or not. I've never seen one for sale at auction, and that includes British auctions which I monitor because I'm into old double guns. I remember reading a forum post years ago where one was displayed at a gun show somewhere in Europe and upon closer examination whatever they had to show off was not a functional gun. The cylinder was not proofed and the barrel was not drilled through. So it's clear they made some kind of prototypes or dummies at least, but whether or not they actually made functional ones or not is unknown. I'm inclined to think they were vaporware.
A modern rifle platform that uses 30-06 that isn’t a fucking meme shitheap like you know what.
>>61470174What do you call a "modern rifle"? Can we consider Benelli Argo modern enough? Sabatti Gagarin? VPO-102? Sauer Whatever?
don't care how its done, I just want one. so long as it isn't in 22
>>61470191Something that doesn’t fucking jam every ninth round, has picatinny for days, and easy to acquire replacement parts.
>>61468740Hey, that's what I was going to post. I want to make one myself though
>>61470191>VPO-12Good luck getting bits for that. I don’t shoot my Vepr-FM .308 anymore because I have no idea where to get a new barrel.
>>61470191Don't forget Blaser R8. People have even made long-action ARs that could chamber it.
>>61468740Gimme a CZ457 Jaguar, but make the modifications to chamber it in 5.7x28. Why? Because I fucking want one, that's why. Because 5.7x28 has come down enough in price and looks to continue to come down in price a bit more. Out of a long barrel it has more ass than 22mag; and fits into that empty space for the lower power varmint rounds. Maybe there's a reason that space is empty. I dunno. But I think it'd be a lot of fun to shoot, and while it isn't exactly cheap it isn't terribly expensive either. I think it'd be fabulous intermediate range plinking fun if given high BC bullets (too lazy to look up what the BC for them is right now).
>>61470198Stop chasing the Wish Dragon, anon.I'm over a year clean from Destiny.
>>61468745I literally only need someone who is good with CAD to design a stock for this. The mounting point for the stock makes it super simple to design new furniture
>>61472446
>>61472468And the grip is held in by a rotating pin so you could theoretically have some crazy grip angles
>>61469178Is... is that Vash the Stampede?
>>61468745Tbh this would be doable if just the cylinder hinged up without taking the entire barrel with it
>>61472446>need someone who is good with CAD to design a stock for thisWhat's stopping you from drawing the design on a piece of wood, cutting the rough out with a bandsaw, and finishing it with a sander?
>>61472903My niggard, I've always had a project in the back of my head of recreating the Jitte from an F2000 as a base
>>61472537>Is... is that Vash the Stampede?Its his distant cousin, Vash the Prideparade
>>61468740I need a Vash revolver. It would complete me if in .357 as opposed to 45 lcBut if I can pick that, then let me kick your ass down memory lane to the cool older heads who know the travesty that prevented us from being blessed with this.>Remember what the orcs took from you.
>>61468740.357 Anderson-Wheeler Webley except based on the Webley-Fosbery.
>>61472931Access to any any of those tools
>>61468740Best bet is the uberti top break in 45 colt. Probably the most recoil and power from a commercially available top break.
>>61469306So 50 GI? Any bigger 50 would be an lmg or larger
>>61468740Modernized AR7 with LRBHO that takes 380 mags from some pistol that a lot of people own like the LCP. Perfect little camp duo
>>61475122>.380 AR7 that actually works and has mag compatibility nice.jpgFor me, I'd want:>subcompact DA/SA>25 or 32 ACP double-stack mag similar to the LCP Max (I know, I know, semi-rimmed)>frame mounted safety >no rails, no optic mounts, snag free and designed for pocket carry >metal frame optional
>>61470530I've been clean since the start of Seraph. I just want to hold them in my hands, since there's no way I can get them otherwise
>>61473995Nah, the gun is huge and it put a hole in the Moon. This clearly implies.500 Mag, even though it says Colt .45. Gotta be a gun with more ft/lbs than at least 5.56mm.
>>61468740>< break-open revolver>< .327 federal magnum>< 9 chamber cylinder>< 6 o'clock position barrel (fires from the bottom chamber like a rhino or mateba)
>>61474693NTA, but you don't even need power tools. A hand saw, rasps, a couple chisels and sandpaper are all you need. How do you think people made gunstocks before electricity. I am good with CAD and honestly I could make you a finished stock with hand tools faster than I could model one in CAD.
>>61469178....220 Swift? From a PISTOL?
>>61476966Sadly, it's not that cool. They neutered Vash in the reboot.
>>61468740I've always wondered if a 6-o-clock barrel would help with the durability issues of top-break revolvers since you'd be putting less force on the lock.
>>61477500It would certainly help with lowering stresses on the lock, but it doesn't solve the fundamental need for precision in the lock and that's what makes the guns impractically expensive to produce. Also moving the barrel to 6 o'clock increases the complexity of the extractor and the hammer. The extractor mechanism now has to straddle the barrel, and the hammer needs to be located in the normal position so you can thumb it, but the cartridge it is firing is much lower in the gun.
>>61468745I love this gun like you wouldn't believe.
Make nitro express rifles great!
.32 acp target pistol.
>>61476988Vash got race swapped from a goofball white boy into a twink K pop reject. The animation is cancer and I hate the writers. I hate the fact they changed his gun to a squirel pube caliber when the whole point is Vash is extremely powerful and proficient with weapons but actively chooses to find alternative solutions than just mogging saps. >DEATH TO REBOOTISTS
>>61477524I think the real issue is the extractor. Chiappa had shown how you do the hammer and their guns aren't that expensive really. But like you said, the extractor has to go over one or both sides of the barrel now because it's in the way of the hinge and I can't visualize how you'd actually do that.
>>61472537No, Vash was a womanizer, not a soiboi
>>61468745>lets increase bore axis because... what, do you hate fun?
>>61478156It's a six o' clock revolver, anon.
>>61468740I want a 30-06/7.62x63 with modern powder or loading. Is that 300wm?
Gyrojet like weapon and ammo but with all the modern tech.
>>61477983I think mimicking the hinge and ejector setup from an o/u shotgun would be the best way to go
>>61468996
>>61473995never forgetti
>>61469100>but I figure you can always stabilize it before you dial the velocity up.What about something like a variable spring shoulder pad recoil absorbing system that turns the padding up and down with the velocity
>>61478168but why anon?
>>61468740It's always the top break fags.You want something that the market doesn't but you don't have the money for so much as an Uberti replica which incidentally costs about as much as a S&W 500 which you probably couldn't afford to feed anyways. You may as well just pretend it exists because even if your manufacturer of choice started making that shit tomorrow it'd be equally as unobtainable for you as it is today.
>>61468740mateba unica 6s that aren't a scam or some jank copyi just want an upside down auto revolver bros
>>61480395You can buy one right now anon
>OUTTA MY WAY SINGLE CALIBER SHITSIt would be cool if someone at least made a new cylinder conversion for Ruger Blackhawks or something
>>61468740>.30 sc pcc/fake smgPeople complain it doesn't offer enough capacity advantage, but that's only in compact guns. You'd get way more if you had the same mag size as a glock 33 rounder
I want a two-barrel revolver that shoots .454 casull out of the bottom barrel (inside ring, 6 shots) and .22lr out of the top barrel (outside ring, probably 16 shots or something)
>PSA needs to make a 7.62x39 Mosin
>>61481372Did you see the TEC-9-inspired-thing on Mark Serbu's channel? 50 rounds of 30 scarry in a cute lil quad-stack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTuIncAdKbg
>>61481449nta but I saw what you're talking about. looks neat >someone needs to bring back the Tec-22
>>61477878already exists https://carl-walther.com/sport/products/p/2662337
>>61475037.50AE would be considered an SMG by definition, as the round was exclusively designed for handguns. Maybe it would be considered a PDW if you want to get extra pedantic.
>>61468750perhaps something like this could come out of Austria, i believe bolt actions don't require a license there and can just be bought by anyone over 18
>>61479378To lower the bore axis.
The PCC space could have been significantly de-gayed if IMI actually went through with the PARA Uzi - essentially an Uzi Pro designed to take Glock magazines.
>>61468750I'd like that
squeeze bore with tungsten carbide barrel, just wondering if it'd last
>>61472446>>61472468So is there anyone willing to take a commission for this?
>>61468740CC-able over-under pistol, chambered in 12-gage shotgun shells.A proper defensive weapon. Only two shots, but there's no risk of missing or them shrugging off the impact. Might hurt the wrist to fire, but you're not trying to siege a place, just ward someone off dramatically, or to stop them in place if they try jumping you alone at night.
>>61468740Left-handed Kar98 chambered in 7.62x51mm with full wooden stockAuto revolver with decocker switch and without hammerAlso, I'd like to see a centerfire .22 magnum get developed.
P90 style battle rifle
>>61489865>I want the Ithaca Auto & BurglarYou need a time machine for that, they were common in the 1920's & 1930s.
>>61489955>Also, I'd like to see a centerfire .22 magnum get developed..22 Hornet?
>>61489955.220 Swift?
>>61469178>implying anyone wants the shitty zoomer remake 22 and not based original 45lc
>>61475661Retard
>>61468740Break action revolver but it has a mechanism that pops out the casings when you open it
>>61490482Those exist.
>>61470174>>61470174>modern rifle platform that uses 30-06 that isn’t a fucking meme shitheapso every .308 rifle
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