Why did the ussr’s submarine force turn out to be a lemon? It did basically nothing save for that one time it killed 9000 nazis (picrel)
>>61484586>It did basically nothing save for that one time it killed 9000 nazis (picrel)You're forgetting the 4,000 they killed on the von Steuben and 7,000 on the GoyaSoviet subs are highly effective against unarmed ships loaded with refugees.
>Why did a country that had never been a serious naval power in the entire history of all the preceding member states/empire have almost 0 naval impact in WW2Gee I dunno.
>>61484618they are the airliners of the sea, of course they'd be good at killing them
>>61484618its a proud and time honored russian tradition
>>61484641Lol
>>61484641they were jewish nazis from alpha centauri. keep up with the correct narrative chud
>>61484586Because up until 1944 the only Soviet Baltic port that Germany didn’t control was Leningrad, and even then it was in no position for naval ops. The Soviets would rather use sailors to fight to the siege.I think they had marginally more use in the Black Sea, but there were basically no kriegsmarine targets there for obvious reasons. Maybe they scored some results against Romania, whatever they had.
>>61484945Prussia was German and will be again.
I remember a multiplayer battle of Hoi4 where the Red Navy had to evacuate troops out of Odessa back to Russia. They got rekt by Romanians and Italians lol and lost their flagship
>>61484586The Russian navy has literally always been a meme. It's a constant throughout history.
>>61484586High chance of defection
>>61484586The Russian navy to this very day has a not-insubtantial chance of killing itself because it thinks its own ships are hostile Japanese. They only have a navy because someone told them great powers have navies and they dream above their station.
>>61485082You should read about Royal Navy submarine operations in North. When 3 British submarines sink 10 times more tonnage than 10 Soviet submarines operating from the same port.
>>61484586>balticThe only sea with any substential soviet submarine (and ship) presence. Suddenly Barbarosa happens and Leningrad is locked down under siege. You can't really play blocade running when the opposing force is literally spawn camping your port.>black seaSemi-succesful denial of shipping supplies via coastal submarine raiding campaign. Mind you most of the subs were tiny coastal sunkboxes - few weapons and none of range.>north north atlantic All numbs down to patroling convoy routes near norway where few axis ships ever ventured into.>pacificNo enemy de facto. All sailros are either shipped west to be common fucking infantry or support the few remaining border garissons.
>>61485088not before germany becomes turkish
>>61484618>unarmedIt was armed and escorted>loaded with refugeesand nazi soliders and staff (promoted to submarine duty)
Subhuman ITT is just so gleeful thinking about the mass murder of unarmed Aryans. Just pure twisted subhuman hate. Like goblins in a cave seething at civilization. It will become biowaste soon like all goblins.
>>61487059Kill yourself goblin
>>61487046>we're gonna genocide you and claim your land as lebensraum>sure thing hans, go and claim this seafloor>nein nein that's not wh-glub glub glub
>>61485082>>61485491thisthe ussr also suffered from less advanced submarine designs and relatively inexperienced crews, as per https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1957/july/soviet-union-and-its-submarine-forcesunfortunately the sources don't go into too much detail regarding the exact ways the soviet subs and sub crews were worse and how this affected their operations
>>61487331>and claim your landEast Prussia has never been vatnigger land. It's barely Polish land. It's Baltic and German land.
>>61487879They had their eyes on a little more than East Prussia, kraut.
>>61487879>east prussia>germanlol
>>61487046Eh, if your average German u-boat skipper got a target like Wilhelm Gustloff in his sights, he would fire all tubes before you could say "Ritterkreuz", regardless of who was onboard.
>>61484631This. Russias biggest naval achievement at that point was getting BTFO by the Japs at Tushima
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>>61487993and it would have been a better worldt-someone from an occupied country
>>61487993yea something like pic related was their "best case" scenario
>>61487046>wehraboo claims krauts never killed civiliansoh that's rich. holocoaster aside, you bombed civilian targets and torpedoed hospital ships as well, your hands are soaked in the blood of the innocent.
>>61487046the knowledge that your race of warmongering unkempt barbarians got physically and psychologically raped by both soviets and nato for 50 years, and the fact that now your country is getting filled to the brim with turks ready for round two, brings me immense joy. germans deserve only misery and suffering for what they did over the millennia.
>>61491011>hospital shipshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hospital_ships_sunk_in_World_War_IINot him, but everyone targeted hospital ships.
>>61491108I'm not German.
>>61490920Very reasonable but I would wait a couple of decades for the vatnigger smell to dissipate before considering the east part livable.
>>61488819Yes.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Order
>>61491108You're a useless subhuman seething at civilization. A waste of atoms and molecules. 100 rats in your place would be an improvement for the planet.
>>61484631Germany was never a serious naval power, yet they've created a very effective submarine fleet.
>>61492081>seething at civilization just like Germany!
