>The Canadian military plans to destroy 11,000 of its Second World War-era pistols by the end of this year. The move comes as the Canadian Army has confirmed it has received the final deliveries of a new 9-mm pistol as part of a $19.4-million project. The military purchased the P320, which is being distributed to units. It replaces the Hi-Power pistol that has been used by the Canadian Forces for decades.God damn fucking leafs. They belong in a a museum and in my hands! Sell them to the US you fucks!
>>61485853>P320its so over glockchads..
>>61485853Trudeau is at it again.
>>61485853Get used to it, the fun and good times are fucking over bro
>>61485853How the fuck did Sig get so many people to adopt its shitty pistol?
>>61485939Sig is owned by Jews, literally.You know how it goes.
>>61485939>Sell at or super near to at cost to big groups>Sell to retards who 'want da army gun' at insane markupsLike the Glock it's a 400 dollar gun. Issue is SIG sold it to the army at 200 so they now sell it to you at 700. Also that's 70 dollars for a mag please
>>61485939Because they’re cheap af. Almost as cheap as a hi-point with their military contracts.If Glock weren’t a bunch of faggots whose favorite pastime is shoving their heads up their bums so far they can see their own esophagus? They would have won tons of contracts too.But those retards got too big for their britches unironically think their poly pocket pistol is somehow better than a hi point when sig nutted up, and humbled themselves
>>61485853Aren't all the Canadian BHPs beat to absolute piss though?
Hipowers look dumb and they arent even good pistols. Your only response will be to call me a zoomer
>>61486001Have you ever shot one?I’ll be completely honest and say i never have but I’ve shot a few 1911s and they’re incredible. The BHP in many ways is an evolution of that design. I’ve also shot CZ75s and those are an offshoot of BHP, and equally as incredible too.so how tf are they “not good pistols”?
>>61486016Bhp is outdated as fuck 1911s have been updated, hp havent. Just cause a 2002 macbook pro was cutting edge in 2002 doesnt mean its worth using now.Hi power is dated.
>>61486016>I’ve never shot this gun but it’s good imo What the fuck retard?
>>61486016Even the cheap Springfield clones are pretty nice to shoot
>>61486016The Hi-Power had a notorious reputation late in its life while in Canadian service. Poor maintenance, reliability problems and lack of spares. It was not at all well liked by the troops. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-wwii-era-pistols-dangerously-unreliable-but-the-quest-to-find-a-replacement-drags-on
>>61485993They've been in continuous use since the 1940s. Yes, they are.
>>61485993Almost everything in Canadian service is beat to absolute piss. But yes, the Hi-Powers were probably one of the worst examples, next to our subs, and F-18s.
>>61485853Hope this is a wakeup call to all the idiots thinking milsurp is gonna be coming in and parts kits and shit, the government would rather destroy things and gift them to the fucking taliban than sell the broken barrelless pieces to its ignorant population.
>>61486106government is always your enemy. ALWAYS.
>>61485990What did Sig actually add to improve upon the Glock?
>>61486001No it will be to say I have an Israeli surplus one and it's great actually if a little beat up you have 0 facts to back up your statement so fuck you Mr nofactsMcnobody.
>>61486106Pistols are literally banned from the market in Canada, what the fuck else was the government gonna do with them lmao
>>61485853Are surp imports just completely dead now?
>>61486116Not much other than basic crap that anyone besides those colon sniffers could figure out>better ergonomics and less blocky grip>usable iron sights>decent triggerBesides that…it’s just basically a refined problem solver just like every other polymer striker. It goes “bang” when you pull the trigger(and sometimes when you drop it)
>>61486125I dunno, its not like they have a massive civilian market directly along it's border they could sell them to at an insane markup
>>61485978I got mine for $450 so I don’t feel too bad. It’s a shame because I shoot the 320/M17 better than my Glock.
>>61485892>The rightes of The Party and the filthy peasantry being ever opposed; pr*lescum shalt not be permitted the possession of armes. -- Canadian charter of serfdom, 2024
>>61486147>>better ergonomics and less blocky gripDebatable>>usable iron sightsGlock has this, even if you hate the plastic there are factory metal sights and factory nightsights>>decent triggerGlock has thisWhat glock didnt have is the lowest bid and bribery
>>61485853There really should be laws against destroying historical artifacts like that.
>>61486070implying it’s not piss easy to implement the same design improvements on a BHP as it was for modern 1911s. It won’t happen for awhile though until the boomers are truly all gone and their clutched pearls fall. Even then it probably won’t be an ultra popular platform due to the cz75 already being so similar and in some ways already an optimization itself
>>61486191No doubt if Gaylock had a competitive price they may have won due to their proven trackrecord. But that’s my point, the army doesn’t give two craps about quality. They just wanted a cheap and reliable problem solver, that’s all polymer guns are and will ever be. if you want anything more you get 2011 or CZ Shadow
>>61486237Everytime somebody decided to improve the hipower the result ceased being a hipower.Its the same as an ar 18 concepts are fine but why would you keep the rest of it.
>>61486093I was on rotation with some candians, their C7s and FN MAGs were in no worse condition than our m4s and 240s, but God, their hi-Powers were clapped the fuck out. Of course it was still cool to finger fuck them (the pistols) but I prefer our m17 over it. Also, I bought a Personal m17 after finger fucking the one in my arms room, I have little Trumpian hands, and I can shoot a Glock fine, but the small frame on the m17 is just super comfy. The military trigger is dogshit tho. Also, ATF sug PP gud
>>61486381holy fuck, compression, I don't have my original picture, but you get the gist.
>>61486388aight, NVM, here it is
>>61486381Is the military m17 trigger intentionally different than just a normal civilian p320? I thought they were virtually identical
Those pistols would be so shitty and clapped out it wouldn't even be worth the FFL transfer fee.
>>61485914Good, once enough people come to terms with it we will have good times again.
>>61486437it's possible just the one I had was shit, the Chassis looked the same to me. Of course I never had them side by side to compare, but I did not notice any major design or physical differences between them.Mine, with the small frame "borrowed" from the arms room, thank you for paying your taxes.
>>61486490When Ukraine and Israel keep sucking us dry, letting veterans “borrow” gear and guns to eventually blow their brains out when our traitor fucking president turns them into homeless drug addicts, is the least of my problems. Can’t speak for anyone else though
>>61486546Hell, considering how much shit they left in Afghanistan, I really hope that at least some Joe's got to take some of that shit home, I'd rather that private dumbfuck gets a set of quads than Abdul the goat fucker. there is such incredible waste in the military and government, I never let my guys run our Humvee all night to run the heat, firstly to save on fuel, and secondly, to conceal our position. It was an FTX with no OpFor, but wasting fuel, or anything is just crazy for me. Nowwwwww, considering taking shit home, I'm a little more ok with that, but you always make sure you know who's signed for it, and that you can get away with it, you never ever steal from your fellow soldiers, but, perhaps your Company Commander is a cock sucking faggot (figuratively and literally), and he didn't do his job properly sub-hand receipting the equipment, that's his fault. But, I've ETS'd, and I got quite a few things, where in the end I didn't really mind having to pay for a FLIPL, I smooshed a peq-15, and I really was stupid and negligent, and by God I got my money's worth out of my time in the army.
>>61486620I ETS'd after my first contract, because it was so Fucking gay, all the PC bullshit, and our CO giving us the Tranny speech. I made E-5, and never a negative counseling, but I wasn't racist and sexist before joining the army, but by God I was afterwards.
>>61486125Export them.Destroying them is a performative act intended to placate people who they know are retarded, and infuriate people who they know will never vote for them.Watch, in a few years they'll stop selling government vehicles and start just crushing them. A politician might even film a video where a V8 taxpayer-funded surplus truck is crushed and then they/them drives away on some faggot bicycle.Leftoids hate you, they're winning, and they're letting you know that they hate you and they're winning. They will do this forever because they will hate you forever.
>>61485853that sucksnow that people know whats going to happen they could probably find a few companies that would buy all those guns to turn around and sell as collector items
>>61485939Jewish nepotism
>>61486070MacBook didn't exist in 2002.
>>61485939Fractal corruption.
>>61486705>Leftoids hate you, they're winning, and they're letting you know that they hate you and they're winning. They will do this forever because they will hate you forever.Rightoids are completely identical though. They hate us, and in many areas are also winning. So not a great dichotomy going on.
>>61486089I'm surprised they didn't do the British thing and buy some HP Mk.3's for the active force 30+ years ago
>>61485866>tfw no matter what happens, the universe will align and everyone will just copy the United States anyway
>>61486237The Turks are importing Hi Powers (they have had the license for 50+ years) to the US with rails and optics cuts - without the magazine safety. Considering it's already double stack the only thing necessary is higher cap flush fit mags - like the mec gat 15 - 16 rounders
>>61485978>Issue is SIG sold it to the army at 200 so they now sell it to you at 700Lol, they were never going to sell it to you for 400 regardless of Army contracts. They make a fucking ridiculous profit even at DoD batch pricing. They're a corporation so they're going to fuck you as much as they want.>>61486191Meh, I'm a Glockfag and I think the M17 has better ergonomics and significantly better factory sights. I don't like the manual safety of the M17 though I understand why a military would want one for box checking, I'm fine with the P320. If Glock just made a G19 or G17 with a manual safety and sold it to the Army at the same price, they probably would've won.
>>61486640>all the PC bullshitAnon you unironically gave up on an entire career that you apparently did okay-ish in, because you were told not to call trannies troons for 30 minutes a year
>>61486970>If Glock just made a G19 or G17 with a manual safety and sold it to the Army at the same price, they probably would've won.No, they wouldn't, because the MHS program only happened as a means of funneling government money directly to Sig. No other company ever had a chance to win because it was rigged from the start. The P320 was and always will be a hastily built, half assed striker fired P250 that didn't work properly and fired when dropped at the time it was adopted by the US Army.
>>61486982Depending on his job was in the Army, he could get a civvie job paying more than he made with better benefits.
>>61486970I mean the P320 CAN have better ergos due to quick swap frames, but the stock sigger plastic frames are shit and glocks have frame alternatives as well.The P320 won because it had the swappable trigger pack
>>61485853Genuinely what are modern leafs even good for? Besides telling the same jokes repeatedly and exporting actors who only play burgers
>>61487084They make some pretty good beer. Also apparently Euros find them very funny because they'll insist up and down they're not American
>>61487007cool fanfic
>>61487095I'm not a man of faith but I thank god every single day that my cunts national identity isn't "I don't know what we are but I know we're not our neighbor"
>>61487014That would be a reasonable path of it's own merit, but giving something up because "Oh no, I had to get a SHARP brief, how terrible!" is actual faggotry
>>61485853sad but they were likely only semi-functional and it's Canada so what did you expect
>>61487014>>61486982yes. I was a 91E allied trade specialist, welder/ machinist, i got my certs, so I'm good with that. I'm using my GI bill right now and am towards my bachelor's in chemistry, with the intent of pursuing my PHD. It's also about dying for officers and politicians who don't give a shit about you, when I joined in 2018, whether or not trump won in 2016 was a deciding factor, i would not have joined under Hillary. On one hand, I wanted to stay in so I could teach my guys how to stay alive and not get killed.The chance of dying is part of the job, I'm not worried about that, but my guys getting killed for no good reason is just something I didn't want to support anymore. Is me getting out going to change anything, no it won't, but I had knee and back pain after 4 years in at 23, and thought to myself, what am I destroying my body for, a mediocre pay check? my ability to embezzle military property? I'd rather pursue an academic career, and be able to actually play with my children when the time comes.I'm studying with the Mormons, I'm not a Mormon myself, but of all the colleges I looked at, even the Catholic one, the Mormons were the only ones that weren't pushing a gay/tranny/MAP message. The Mormons are my favorite cult, bar none. thank you for reading my TED talk.
>>61486705>A politician might even film a video where a V8 taxpayer-funded surplus truck is crushed and then they/them drives away on some faggot bicycleAnon you are absurdly fragile>>61487007Lol>>61487029I don't really think anyone gave a fuck about the swappable trigger pack as far as a decision being made. I think, firmly, the price point was the largest influence, followed by the manual safety (Glock is actually retarded for not offering this), then the trigger pack as a tertiary bonus.
>>61487157>91E>teach my guys how to stay alive and not get killed>in the post GWOT era evenLol
>>61487157But also, I'm in the guard now as a 13F, finishing up my 8 year service obligation. I reclassed to a job close to college, because that was actually the important part. So, I'm not out of the military Eco-System, and the guard (Idaho) so far has been great.Idaho legislator recently passed a law stating that the guard can only be deployed to a warzone if Congress actually declares war. Of course the Feds would probably just big dick idaho if need be, but at least the Idaho legislator pretends to care. The guard people I work with also act as if they want to be there, so many soldiers in active duty bitch and moan about not having signed up to do all the gay small stuff, but that's just part of the job. I did meet some great people in active duty, and made some friends for life. I probably just got unlucky and had bad leadership, but I'm happier where I'm now. Active Duty is by far not the worst choice you can make, especially if you're straight out of High School with little direction in life, it teaches, most, soldiers how to live, be a responsible adult, and be a value add to the team/ society. But you definitely have to ascertain what you want in life, lots of guys reenlist because of separation anxiety, because some guys have never known anything apart from active duty.
>>61487175We did convoy operations, BSA defense, and I was in the S&R section, the combat tow truck drivers. Of course we're not on the pointy end of things, but basic competencies of a rifleman are required, and I had so many joes complain about doing "infantry" shit, and that they didn't sign up for that. Chang Doesn't care if you're a cook, or a mechanic, he's going to try and kill you no matter what MOS you signed up for. Now, are the Chinks or the Ruskies ever going to break through our front line and start hitting our support areas, probably not, but never underestimate the enemy, assume they're more competent, better equipped and trained than you are, and never take anything for granted.
>>61487175>thinking you’re ever truly safe in hostile territory when you’re just a number to some traitor politician and some fag commander who’s never even used the bad china much less seen combatThe thing about those kinds of mistakes is: they only happen once. https://youtu.be/-V_wiNdgm8c?si=6Fc410mWDoGGfaPV
>>61486705This cool fanfic really shows that leftists hate you, and doesn't at all demonstrate the irrational hate you have for them.
>>61487157shut the fuck up pog
>>61486950When you're figuring out how to arm your military, can't go wrong with copying the only superpower.
>>61486001Oh, I was planning on calling you a retard as soon as I saw the first three words of your post. So, clearly I have more than one response, retard.
>>61486840Neither did 3DS
>>61485853Why not sell them to American civilians?
>>61486950Even their mistakes. I used to make fun of Americans for wasting their tax dollars on Sigger shit but now it's happening to me
>>61486191Glocks don't have iron sights from the factory, and they definitely don't have decent triggers. Not to a P320 at least
>>61487110cool cope
>>61487341Not pictured: 91Es sitting around a non deployable unit CONUS
>>61486089I think the Canadians are just retards who don't know how to maintain a gun or contact FN or FM for new parts
>>61485853The vast majority of these handguns were slopped the fuck out when I was in the army over a decade ago>if our government wasn't full of faggots they would have been offered up for private sale anyways
>>61486125The Canadian gov destroyed 1500 Lee Enfields instead of surplusing them, and those rifles remain in widespread civilian ownership. Trudeau hates gun owners, simple as.
>>61487157Got my Bs in Chem and pursuing my PhD now, check out east Texas for grad schools. Texas universities tend to have minimal DIE and we could always use more true Texans.
>>61485853On the one hand, I'm mad they're being destroyed. On the other hand they're in such a sorry state melting them down is a merciful ending for them
>>61486089Australians meanwhile use Hi-Powers and absolutely love them. Canadians troops are simply retarded
>>61486070CZ75, SP-01, Jericho 941 are all proof of the potential for the Hi Power to be modernized. >that doesn’t count, it still needs to be an actual Hi Power.SA-35, MC P35 OPSAlso,>implying handguns need to modernize
>>61488743They are actively replacing them with Sigs, like everyone else's they were good enough but they are ancient and at the end of their lives.
>>61488915>implying handguns need to modernizeBased pepperbox enjoyer
>>61488962This was in response to the Hi-Powers being of poor quality, not because they are dated. The P320's aren't even a good choice, out of all SIG's the only reason the P320 was chosen was because yankees get them for cheap>>61488915>implying handguns need to modernizeMost don't but shit like DA/SA or higher mag capacity is really nice
>>61487776Well buddy, now I'm sad. It's all fun and games, until you fuck up your equipment and don't have the tools and expertise to fix it.
>>61488474I was born on fort Hood, but sadly I grew up in Oregon, actually in Portland.I'd suspect that what gave me my ravenous hatred of DIE, and all the other globohomo crap, was having to deal with all the gay stuff in Portland/school. There were only 4 openly Republican kids in my school, and we were all military brats. Perhaps there are only two ways conservative kids react to being in that kind of toxic environment, either they give in, or in my case, just go in the extreme other direction. Also, Canadian Browning HPs, amirite?
>>61487937Well sir, I'll let you know we went to Romania for 9 months, having to deal with the great dangers of drunk privates, no Walmart (AGHAST?!), getting my thumb lodged up my ass, REPEATEDLY, and Romanian Hookers giving guys the clap. As well as me having to console most of the married guys about their wife's fucking Jamal stateside the second they got on a plane.
>>61486705>Watch, in a few years they'll stop selling government vehicles and start just crushing them. A politician might even film a video where a V8 taxpayer-funded surplus truck is crushed and then they/them drives away on some faggot bicycleI think you are right, sadly. I'm just kind of shocked they didn't send them to Ukraine kek. I bet the Ukies don't have time to sift thru the number of them that are clapped out beyond repair.
>>61487165The government would rather give a set of Quad NVDs to Abdul the goat fucker for free, instead of even selling it to American civilians on the surplus market. let alone all the money and equipment we sent to Ukraine and Israel, at least the Ukrainians are killing Russians for us, and it's substantially cheaper to do it this way instead of fighting the Russians down the road, as well as getting less Americans killed. But I'm cautiously optimistic that Israel does not need substantial monetary support to dunk on some illiterate Palestinian fucks.
>>61486191>What glock didnt have is the lowest bidThat is an ever so slightly important thing
>>61489509Is this an AI post or something? What the fuck does this have to do with discussion about Sig triggers
>>61487839For the same reason that the US military will never surplus and sell guns to civilians again. They're far too concerned about the optics of a crime or mass shooting happening with a gun that they offloaded. You didn't want these anyway though, they were fucking smoothbores by this point.
>>61486016>>61486070>>61486237I bought a Springfield SA35 and it might be my favorite handgun.Shit like the magazine safety was removed, it can feed hollowpoints, the safety is bigger, and apparently it’s +p rated despite not being able to find that info directly from Springfield and instead it’s only mentioned secondhand. Kinda suspicious but whatever.Everything people didn’t like about the BHP that needed updating, they updated. And it’s badass.So yes, the BHP was updated. It can be updated just like the 1911 was. And when it is, it’s a pretty cool gun.>>61486269I suspect the only reason Springfield doesn’t call the SA35 the Springfield Hi Power is for legal reasons. It’s a Hi Power.The FN HP though I would argue isn’t really a HP. They changed the whole frame. It’s bigger and wider so they could make the magazine bigger to cram a couple extra rounds so they can sell you proprietary mags at like $50 a pop.But I could get behind calling it like BHP 2.0 or something.
Hi Power appreciation thread? Say less.
>>61485853we can't let them do this, we have to do something, anything.
>>61493013(i thought i commented this) we have the power
>>61487839guns badAmericans bad
>>61485939it just works
>>61485853what a bunch of retards, canadia needs a revolutionary war
>>61485993Yes, they’re beat to shit and not desirable in any way so I don’t know why OP is complaining.
>>61485939You think "military grade" pistol is high speed when in actuality they're basically above minimum standard. Sig won by doing the razor salesman tactics; give away the razor sell the blade
>>61487772>irrational
>>61485939The P320 is just more shootable than Glock. Better grip angle and better trigger out of the box. As other anons said, Sig then undercuts Glock for these big institutional contracts. It's a no brainer.
>>61493004>not plastic>hammer slop>no red dot mounting>no light rail>only 15 roundsI'm so glad we've moved beyond this to our soulless trash
>>61500051>zoomer calling something soulless trashcalm down kiddo, it's called nostalgia. I'd say you'll have it one day, but your generation doesn't make anything of value.
>>6150005117 and 19 round magazines exist for the SA-35 (aka BHP)
>>61485853Waste of money handguns are useless in war, civilian crap for mps and for officers making arrests. Whens the last time you saw a soldier in action in Ukraine even carry one?
>>61493004>Hi Power appreciation thread? Say less.besi semi.
>>61485993>in service for 80 years >hundreds of thousands of rounds of 9mm NATO put through pistols that'd be clapped out after 50k rounds of standard pressure 9mm paraThey're basically just paperweights at this point, it's incredible that they've been able to limp along this far>>61486145We're never gonna see surp from Western countries designed in the last 50 years. Globohomo doesn't want Western civilians having access to cheap weapons of war>>61491452>It’s bigger and wider so they could make the magazine bigger to cram a couple extra roundsAs JMB intended
>>61502743did he want that or was the narrow frame on purpose?you can get 17 round extended baseplates that aren't really THAT much bigger than the original 15 rounders for the BHP
>>61502759JMB's prototypes had the slide rails inside the frame rails and a longer 16 round magazine. The Europeans wanted something for their smaller hands so they made the frame shorter and thinner
>>61493004Fuck I need a Hi-Power. I skipped over an Argentine Hi-Power to get an Italian made Beretta 92 FS instead and I'm glad I did but at the same time it seems almost exactly like what I want. Only downside is lack of threaded barrels and silencing but I have the 92 for that.
>>61491133The Army literally just sold some of the first M17s to civilians through the CMP.
>>61504660No, you're thinking of the M17s that the Army sent back to Sig for refitment, which Sig then turned around and sold on the civilian market after sending the Army completely new units instead. There are no surplus M17s.
>>61505427Nigga I'm the guy who inventoried them
>>61505449So these are supposedly different pistols from the ones shipped back to Sig? Why the fuck are they already surprising brand new guns?
>>61505449I don't see anything anywhere about the CMP selling M17s.
>>61505449Does your Dad work for the DoD?
>>61493004Based fellow alloy Hi-Power enjoyer.
>>61499188well obviously it's more shootable, all you need to do is lean over the wrong way and it'll go off in your holster
>>61505487>brand new>tfw some of them have been on 2, 3 deployments already
>>61511279Yeah, if it's time to retire a military handgun after two or three deployments then DoD procurement made a terrible mistake
>>61511878When production costs are low enough why not replace them instead, like any other disposable item? Labor is high enough to make most pistols disposable vs. refurbishing. CNC makes them cheap to produce.
>>61511891We're talking about military pistols. They ride around in holsters and are never used. They should have next to no functional wear from an overseas deployment.
>>61486970>If Glock just made a G19 or G17 with a manual safety and sold it to the Army at the same price, they probably would've won.I wonder what would've happened if Glock made a G43x with a 17 round magazine capacity and a safety. As a civilian, I would buy one.
>>61511878That isn't even tangentially what he said
>>61512032Of course it is, though it might not have been his point
>>61485993Nope. All the ones held by combat troop companies are shot to fuck, but the ones held by hq companies and other wogs are pristine.
>>61486116Forward assist
They are right, the hi power pistol was also used by the nazis.Anything that is remotely nazi should be destroyed.
>>61485853I'm surprised they aren't at least trying to sell them considering our budget problems. But no, Trudeau just wants to pillage the asset portfolios of the middle class.
>>61485853We probably would sell them to the US if there wasn't fucking gay laws in place.
>>61486267I bet you there have been less kills by pistols of any caliber in the US military than kills with entrenching tools.The actual, real world impact of upgrading a service pistol is negligible, except maybe for MPs.
>>61485853>Since then, several police departments have discontinued use of the P320. “Bottom line, it's a public safety issue,” Northrop's attorney Nicholas Gurney told VICE News. “Based on what we've learned and uncovered and alleged, this firearm, make and model, by design is capable of firing when the trigger isn't pulled.”Cool cool
>>61499113I love the term “military grade” like you wouldn’t believe. Oh cool so it baaarely meets the absolute bare minimum standards while being produced as cheaply as physically possible? Wooow! I’ll buy 3!
>>61499188you also forgot that it doesn't have a magazine overinsertion stop, and how they will fire by themselves
>>61508366got all matching serials too
>>61521819Same, though that's not uncommon for handguns.
>>61517784There's still a standard that it has to meet. A standard that a lot of manufacturers still cut corners on.
>>61493013the US should really just annex canada. not like they'd be able to do anything against it and giving them actual human rights would be nice
>>61525729It'd be nice to be able to go there without a passport. And be able to bring a .22 or something. IIRC you used to be able to just bring your hunting rifle up, get a hunting license, go hunting for the weekend, and come back home; I've heard about it a couple times. Good fucking luck doing that anymore. I was at a Canadian gun store once; didn't even realize it was a gun shop until I stepped into the gun room. Wonder how they're doing.
>>61526025>IIRC you used to be able to just bring your hunting rifle up, get a hunting license, go hunting for the weekend, and come back homeYou can still do that, thousands of Americans do it every year. What do you think changed?>I was at a Canadian gun store once; didn't even realize it was a gun shop until I stepped into the gun roomWhat store? My LGS looks just like any American gun shop I've been in
>>61526652Canadian and American gun stores look exactly the same, that anon is full of shit unless he was in a downtown Toronto store, maybe. I can see them going out of their way to secure their guns a little better against the local diversity
>>61502759I'm a manlet (5 foot 9) and can conceal carry it. I like it a lot. Honestly might get the SA 35 and an older HP just for muh collection but the New "high power" is one of my favorites
>>61487811>only superpower.lol>suez container-max volume down 80% from 2023 levels>*superpower*heh,"haha" even
>>61486412This would never work, but I still like it anyway.
>>61526652>>61526722It was a combo fishing shop, mainly fishing. Guns weren't their main thing so it was in a side room of a side room; this was years ago. Wouldn't have even known they sold guns by the sign out front lol. Also how do you bring a rifle up with Canada's gun laws? Do you have to do anything beforehand? Haven't heard of anyone doing that in years. Maybe I just get too many of those stories from old guys who probably don't hunt in general at all anymore and that's why I haven't heard of anyone doing it in recent times lol.
>>61529173>Also how do you bring a rifle up with Canada's gun laws?I'm a leaf, so I've never had to do it myself obviously, but I believe you just declare them at the border, and receive a temporary permit for the duration of your visit that lists your guns on it
>>61529173>>61529198>If you are coming into Canada with a firearm, please fill out a Non-Resident Firearms Declaration form before you arrive at your entry point into Canada to save you time. Do not sign the form; a Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) customs officer must witness your signature. The fee is $25.>After a CBSA customs officer signs your Declaration, it is a temporary licence and it is valid for 60 days.>The Declaration is only valid for the person who signs it and only for the firearm(s) listed on it.>If you are bringing more than three firearms into Canada, please fill out a Non-Resident Firearm Declaration Continuation Sheet.>The Declaration does not permit you to borrow firearms in Canada.>The Declaration allows you to buy ammunition in Canada for the firearms listed on it.>You can renew your Declaration for free before it expires. Please contact the Chief Firearms Officer of the province or territory.https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/non-residents
>>61529228>The Declaration allows you to buy ammunition in Canada for the firearms listed on it.Wait...can you bring some of that back? Because someone once told me that you could totally not buy ammo in Canada no way. I guess buying a crate of Chinese steel case from one of your Cabelas up there would be a bit of a risk to bring coming back in to the US though since we can't have it lol.
>>61487157>my guys dying>welderHoly moly it's a trans-boomer. Electricians mog you, btw.
>>61529254It's not against Canadian law to bring it back, but it would be a violation of ITAR or whatever American law governs importation now.
>>61529272ITAR is for information exports, the issue is importing it into the US which is yeah, just US import law, which is fucked
>>61529272>>61529306That's what I assumed. Just seems odd to be able to do something like that but "hey don't bring that back!" Would be neat to have some boxes and a crate/tin since we don't get them over here, empty or not. The most we have for tinned ammo anymore is the Romanian stuff and that's way overpriced. Crated? Forget it.
>>61529317you probably won't even be able to bring the ammo you took over the border back into the USyou might not even be able to bring the guns you took over the border back into the US lol
>>61529306>ITAR is for information exportsAh, gotcha. I never really looked into the changes when Trump took a bunch of stuff off it>>61529317>Just seems odd to be able to do something like that but "hey don't bring that back!"Yeah, that's just of function of two different sets of laws from two different governments. The Canadian govt couldn't give less of a shit about taking it out, but Uncle Sam doesn't want anyone bringing it in>The most we have for tinned ammo anymore is the Romanian stuff and that's way overpriced. Crated? Forget it.With eastern Europe basically shitting itself, I think the era of cheap chinky ammo is coming to an end up here too. One of these days we're going to wake up and be in the exact same situation as you.
>>61529228Yeah it's easy. There was an episode of one of those border patrol reality shows where an old American fella drove his RV into Canada and told the customs guys he had weapons in the vehicle. They found brass knuckles and a pistol-gripped Mossberg 500 Persuader. They confiscated the brass knuckles for being Prohibited in Canada, but gave him the shotgun back and told him to enjoy his visit kek
>>61529306>importSurely if it's a reasonable amount for personal use that's not going to apply. Should be able to get a few spam cans worth in under the value, and the import ban doesn't apply since you're not importing, no?
>>61530473If it was legal we'd have no more Chinese spam cans up here, because you guys would be coming up and snatching it all up
>>61530504Yeah fair point, the Jews have probably buried a very specific and very Talmudic exception or catch-all in there.
>>61485853How do we save them?
>>61485853TFW>>61486089It’s a neutering machine tho
>>61486089>late in its lifeKey phrase here. Some of those guns had been eating subgun food on human life expectancy timescales. They'd had the shit kicked out of them.
>>61532515You don't, they're fucked. If there was anything reasonably salvageable they'd be going back into service.
>>61533117This. The only reason that they're finally scrapping them, after all this time since the second fucking world war, is that they're now completely clapped out beyond all repair. If they were at all functional, they wouldn't be ditching them. This is the Canadian military, the Arctic rangers only ditched the Lee Enfield for a modern rifle a couple of years ago.
>>61533117well maybe we still want them
>>61533160To be fair bears aren't known for accurate return fire, you may as well stick with what works, until it doesn't.>>61533177At the very least would have the barrel drilled & filled before you got your hands on one, and that's not worth it either.
>>61533192you mean a new barrel fitted or its will be demilled?
>>61533214He's saying it'd be demilled, but again, the frames and slides are probably next to useless as well. Like I say, if you could just stick a new barrel in these things, they'd still be in service
>>61533192>bears aren't known for accurate return fireMaybe not around your parts, but I've got to keep my head on a swivel in my stomping grounds
>>61485853Does anyone still make a good hi power
So they were guns so worn out that they were technically gun-shaped pieces of steel? To what extent can a firearm be used and be safe to use? That is to say that it does not fire by itself or that the rifling is non-existent?
>>61486147Newfag, but aren't the Sigs double strike too? like if you misfire you don't need to cock it? I know that's a minor issue with Glocks: Glocks aren't double strike
>>61533223yeah probably the rails on the high powers are worn out
>>61533343Nope. What they have over a Glock is a fully cocked striker which improves the trigger a little (and also removes the safety margin of half-cock and a hard military primer, just in case e.g. your gun is questionably drop safe due to e.g. excessive wear or being designed and manufactured by pakis and spics with Jewish oversight).
>>61485939It's just a cohencidence.
