Are there 3d printers that work with metal, and if so how cost-effective would it be to print older calibers that aren't easily made by resizing?
>>61493163Yes, metal 3D printers exist, but they are terribly expensive and much slower than a lathe. They also leave a rough finish which isn't usable as-is so you'd have to do further work to finish them anyway.
>>61493163>Are there 3d printers that work with metalyes>would this actually be practical for use in making casesprobably not, metal 3d printers still suck ass and the end product is substantially weaker than a conventionally made item, only really useful for making things that won't ever be subjected to a large amount of force.
>>61493209>>61493206Figures. Meanwhile, even rather common old rifles (Lee, Arisaka, Mauser) have relatively few sources for affordable ammo or brass, because all American ammo companies know "MUH 9MM, MUH 5.56, MUH .308!!!"
Some of the hype around the True velocity stuff was that it would become really cheap and easy to produce obscure and old ammo types again. I'm not sure if they've done much with it since it didn't get get adopted in NGSW though.
>>61493235That sort of stuff pisses me off too since I love antique guns which are often in obsolete calibers. I can see why companies aren't cranking out brass for, say, .577 Boxer or .298 Millinex. But there are a lot of Arisakas, Lee-Enfields, etc, out there. I would think it would pay to make some brass for those now and then.
>>61493277>I love antique guns which are often in obsolete calibers. I can see why companies aren't cranking out brass for, say, .577 Boxer or .298 Millinex. But there are a lot of Arisakas>arisakasI really really want to get a Type 38& rechamber it in 6.5creed due to ammo availability, but not change anything else about the rifle. Same with a Model 8 rechambered to .350leg. I feel like the one-time pain in the ass of finding a competent gunsmith to do it outweighs the constant pain in the ass of having to find or load obsolete unobtainium calibers
>>61493277PPU does limited runs of obscure cartridges every year, but boy are they pricey because of limited production. Curious to know whether PPU actually makes decent money off of those or if it's a bit of a passion-project for the company that happens to build brand loyalty or something>t. kills deer with 7.62x54r PPU soft points @ $1.75/rd
>>61493235Well inferior ammo like genes die out. Maybe if those calibers were any good they would be made by smart people.But smart people know that making those is pointless.
>>61493243Without military production to kickstart economies of scale it's probably ded. Fuck the NGSW process again really.That said in fairness I think there were legit concerns with it as well over more plastic shit everywhere, brass at least might be expensive to leave in the woods but doesn't hurt anything. There were some cool ideas on how to fix that but it'd be more R&D. Ideally government would kickstart a lot of this stuff but there isn't much long term vision when it comes to this kinda thing.
>>61493327Lucky bastard, I'm still waiting for another run of 7.5x55 soft points.
>>61493327I just wish they didn't fuck up their 6.5 carcano ammo. They sell the proper diameter projectile, they just don't use it for their cartridges for whatever reason.
>>61493791Try hand loading.https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/29101
>>61493839https://steinelammo.com/all-available-calibers/reloading-components/bullets/268-162gr-round-nose-gc-for-6-5-carcano/
>>61493839>>61493846I do, it's still nice to not have to every time I want to go to the range. Some people enjoy reloading, I mostly see it as a chore. I know steinel sells it sometimes, PPU tends to be cheaper.
>>61493235I don't know why you expect people to fund your hobby with fucking charity. buy the brass from the people that make them you whiney nigger.>t. shoots dead as fuck calibers
>>61493611you say that like there aren't thousands of shotgun hulls laying around in every woods I've ever been in. Like, just today I went into the woods looking for mushrooms and found 5 cases right at the entrance. Either someone decided to unload at something right there or they dumped them on purpose. Clean up your shit, it's not that hard.
>>61493235You can make 7.7 jap from 8mm brass or cut down 30-06.
>>61494487>"Hey, there is demand for [product] and low supply of [product], if more [product] was manufactured, people would buy and use it, lowering prices of [product] by economy of scale.">"Wow, poorfag! Just buy $100 batches of 20 cases made by some specialty boutique!"
>>61494673wrong, there isn't more demand you brainlet. if there was there'd be money to be made and people would do it. You are one of those dumbfucks that say>oh ehm gee they should make [stg44, H9, Maxim9, etc.] that would be so heckin awesome. then those companies go out of business because nobody bought them, despite espousing that they would. go to Grafs, wait your turn, shut the fuck up. or resize existing calibers, it's not that hard if (you) aren't a retard.
>>61493235Unfortunately, that's just market forces for you. 5.56 et all sell the moment they're manufactured which, from a business perspective, makes any line producing them a reliable money printer. If they shut those lines down in order to make something less common they are trading guranteed profit for potential profit. They'd have to charge obscene amounts to balance out the lost profits, not only from projected loss of sales volume but also down time on the machines. Noone's gonna pay $10 per round for .303 or 6.5 jap. We probably won't see less common calibers getting serious attention again until the market for more common calibers gets saturated.
>>61494809There wasn't really any deman for single-shot hunting rifles, and then the Ruger No.1 happened.
>>61493243>True velocity stuffi saw some of this on the ground in .223 at the range like 2 weeks ago and thought it was odd
>>61493209There has been fully 3d printed metal guns that worked
>>61493163>how cost-effective would it be to print older calibers that aren't easily made by resizing?Significantly less cost-effective than turning them from barstock.
>>61493163You'd be better off using a resin printer. Modern resins can flex a lot before breaking.
>>61494977there wasn't any demand until when? sixty fucking years ago? how about you check to see if you are a stupid nigger before posting.
>>61493163How cost effective? Depends on the volume. Yes it is possible and there are FDM (filament) metal printers now, so you're not stuck with sintered metal powder.You may actually prefer to print something intermediate and then resize it and aneal. It will be caliber and gun specific for how strong the case actually needs to be.Yes possible, however nobody else is doing it so you have to figure it out for yourself.Black Lotus Coalition is working on 3d printed and improvised ammunition for Myanmar rebels. Check out their stuff.>>61493206A thin coat of oil or lithium grease fixes a lot.
