“Why by God girl, that’s a Colt’s Dragoon!”
>>61500568Damn I love this movie. And the new one. I really want a colt dragoon now. Or some other gun from this movie.
>>61500568How could you ever carry the Dragoon knowing you're carrying a circumcised underpowered Walker.
>>61501282Pretty sure it actually was a Walker in the movie but Rooster called it a Dragoon for some reason
Just bought a 1st Model Dragoon a few days ago. Was reading Blood Meridian and decided to get one. I know they carry Walkers in that, but Captain White has 2 Dragoons and I just think they look cooler.
>>61500568Nothing against John Wayne but I never enjoyed his movies, this on the other hand is it and morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13bdNK2oWk0
>>61501153The new one is better imo
>>61502062They both have their charms, but no matter which way you look at it the remake is the best remake ever made.
>wayne & campbell kinovs>zoomer action hero slop
>>61500568There are so many quotable lines from those movies. I won't get these quotes perfectly from memory, but they're close enough, and one of the most relevant ones is "If you ride at a man hard enough and fast enough, he won't have time to think about how many people he's got with him. He'll just think about how he can steer clear of the wrath that's about the be set down upon him." As far as I've seen from videos of self-defense shootings, and even some cop shootings, that is a true statement. I also like "You could not hit a man at 300 yards if your rifle was rested on Gibraltar."
>>61502254>>zoomer action hero slopJesus fucking Christ do words not have meaning anymore? How the hell do you wake up and not drown in a sink?
>>61501792They wanted a bigger looking gun in maddies hand to make her look smaller. The remake is so much better
>>61502304>>61501153My favorite part of the remake is when they shoehorn in a "da white ruralz is EVUL AND UNFAIR TO DA NICE INDIAN" bit for literally no fucking reason.
>>61502349>Hates everything
>>61502349When does that happen? They hang the one without letting him speak, but that's played for laughs. Rooster kicks the kids, but they're abusing a mule and deserve it. He hides Maddie from the one Indian rider, but he turns out to be ok and even tries to help them by signaling that there's a rider coming up after them.
>>61502419>They hang the one without letting him speak, but that's played for laughsYeah the laughs are at the ebul hillbillies expense. wouldn't even let da poor prairie nigger speak
>>61502062it is>>61502304>>61501792>for some reasonit's a Dragoon in the novelthe greater recoil is plot-relevant, somewhat>>61500568John Wayne sucks as Rooster Cogburnhe doesn't have the drunk sumbitch vibe that Jeff Bridges does
>>61502505God, how do you keep finding reasons to make yourself mad?
>>61502505You are retarded. He's a murderer and is being hung for it. You're the only one here trying to conjure up some kind of sympathy for him.
>>61502419>>61502713There are people on this site whose ideology never allows them a single moment of levity or light hearted enjoyment of anything. Not even one minute of innocent amusement can be spared from the Great Cause of spreading communism or red-pilling anons about DA JOOS or whatever their flavor of schizo screeching is.They're more to be pitied than anything else, I'd hate to live life like that myself.
>>61502734Everything about this post makes me just as suspicious of you and your intentions as I am of his.
>>61501282because the walker exploded a bunch.
>>61500568>John WayneNo thanks.
>>61502254> zoomer action hero slopThe oldest zoomers were 13 when it came out. Clearly the target audienceYou should consider suicide and do the world a favor
>>61502062>>61502083Haley really nails the role. Her back and forth with the shop owner is legendary and one of my favorite scenes ever put on film.
>>61502526Wayne is fine. Just a different style. Wayne has way more of a cool swagger of rooster while Jeff has the tough mean ol sonnofa bitch mood.
>>61503583>>61502526>>61502083Yeah she kills it, very rare stellar performance by a kid actor. Plus seeing Jeff Bridges just be Jeff Bridges is always fun. Can't tell you how many times I've beat off to the scene where Damon spanks Hailee
I love the comfy historically informed Western costumes in the remake. Mattie's clothes are so damn cute despite being meant to give off a mature vibe.
>>61502304That's a gorgeous blade. I don't suppose you happen to know the model?
>>61503688I believe that anon had that knife made for him by a friend. Might have been a different guy though.
The remake is legit my favorite western.I also understand how John Wayne is a legend and all but can't stand his movies. They are all goofy old timey westerns where I half expect everyone to start singing. I know it was a different time before Spaghetti Westerns, but it feels like a parody. For a movie called True Grit, Wayne does not have any sort of grittyness about him.
>>61503775>The remake is legit my favorite western.same here
>>61503775>>61503880Are there that many western remakes? I can only think of a few >hateful 8>magnificent 7 >tombstone probably
>>61503880>>61503902>Django borrows the name& a lot of its violence from the 1966 Django but i wouldn't call it a remake by any means. Also,>Hell or High WaterNot a remake at all, but i do consider it a modern Western and an absolute masterpieceAnd fuck Tombstone; Val Kilmer has always been a dogshit overrated actor
>>61503929Woah woah woah. Do NOT throw shade on my man Val. He killed every line in that movie.
>>61503075Only if you load it like a retard.
Best part is when after telling bullshit stories for the entire book/movie and being a useless drunk who misses every shot and makes a bunch of bad calls, Rooster charges four guys on horseback with his two Navy Sixes and proves that he really qas a badass the entire time
>>61504387Which is why the original sucks like >>61503775>>61502526said. John Wayne isn't a drunk loser, hexs just John Wayne being a badass and 360 noscoping everyone the whole time.>>61503929Tombstone sucks and Val Kilmer is the only thing that makes it a good movie.>>615039023:10 To Yuma, which is also way way better than the original.
>>61500568I like the movie, and love John Wayne, though that probably isnt one of my favourite wayne movies. I find it almost hard to believe he won an oscar for it, and somewhat humoursly, his only oscar, despite appearing in hundreds of films.Imo, John Wayne was a terrible actor, but a good man. By which i mean he always just kinda seemed to play variations of himself, never someone truly different, but thats fine because the Wayne charachter was so good.Did not enjoy the True Grit remake because they replaced the QT redhead tomboy with some nasty mulatto runt.ty my blog etc
>>615039023:10 to Yuma
>>61504406John Wayne was a faggot and so are you
>>61504428Actually, John Wayne was legendarily straight and baste, very right-wing. unlike the actual faggots who litter the films of today.
>>61504406>mulatto runt.She's like half jewish, part filipino, part african american. a real barrel scraper.
>>61503902There was actually a japanese samurai remake of Unforgiven that was quite good
>>61504558Hmm, will have to look into that. The original Unforgiven kinda sucked. They just whine the whole time about how sad they are about killin people.
>>61504558oh yes, starring Ken Watanabe and Shioli Kutsuna (the Deadpool "Hi Wade" girl)I rather liked it>>61504589the samurai remake has quite a bit of that too, but not too much for me
>>61501153>>61502062The reason why the remake is so good is because it’s just the original with a few added scenes to flesh out the story/characters
>>61502083I wouldn't really call it a remake, it's just adapting the same source material. With its own odd touches, these are the Coen Brothers, after all.
>>61502713Hanged, he's a man, not a painting.
>>61504558There's a lot of dialogue between westerns and samurai movies, really.
>>61505169Because structurally and thematically they're the same movies. One just has swords instead of guns (and even then they still sometimes have guns).
cowboys are cool as fuck
>>61503688>>61503696Its a cold steel frontier bowie.
>>61505644You find it useful?
>>61505666It is essentially a short sword. Its it too large to do some knife stuff. I typically carry a smaller knife. It is good as a short machete for clearing brush and chopping things. I think its supposed to be a "fighting" knife aka cutting up pigs and cutting the toes off of boots like in the cold steel videos.Pic related is the knife I typically use compared to the bowie.
>>61505712That's what I suspected, thank you.
>>61502286>it's a hell of a thing, killin' a man. you take away all he's got... and all he's ever gonna have.
>>61505150NTA, but I learned the difference from a John Wayne movie. There's a scene in Chisolm where they're deciding what to do with a cattle thief, and Wayne says he'll be put on trial and be hanged. "He'll be hanged. And it's a ghastly way to go."
>>61505138Exactly. Hollywood could learn from it. The original was great so why change it? Hell both movies made decades apart are both almost word for word copies of the book. I bought the book thinking I’d get some expanded story and interesting side plots. Nope. Word for word the movie. I believe it even came out in the same year. Wild
>>61502304I always wanted a Walker/Dragoon, but apparently their loading levers suck, so I settled for an 1860 Army. Still a nice gun though,>>61504406Wayne was such a Chad, that the soviets unironically wanted to assassinate him just so they could demoralize America by offing one of their biggest cultural icons.
>>61505138>it’s just the original with a few added scenesthe remake is more true to the bookit was also very clever of the Coens to bring in the Christian theme from the book, which the first movie ignores entirely, through the soundtrack and the opening quote card.>>61502286>There are so many quotable lines from those movies"I am struck that LaBoeuf is shot, trampled, and nearly severs his tongue, and not only does not cease to talk, but spills the banks of English."and from the book: "Who is in there? A Methodist and a son of a bitch!">>61506186I learned it from George R. R. Martin. "Your father was not a painting, dear, he was executed."
>>61506422The walker lever isnt that greatIt can get loose and drop while firing the gun. The dragoon completely fixed that problem by redesigning the loading lever and latch.
>>61502286>well, one would be as unpleasant as another Hottest burn of the last century.
>>61501829OP here. Very cool. I love the Dragoon’s look. Where did you get it? Is it cartridge converted or does it use percussion caps?
>>61503075Probably because you loaded it in a state of drunkenness.
>>61506554Only if you comb your hair like cabbage.
>>61506422>assassinate him just so they could demoralize America by offing one of their biggest cultural icons.Wayne was also very actively anticommunist, enforcing hollywood black-listing, and supporting groups like the "house committee on un-american activities" which hunted down people believed to have communist ties.
>>61503929>Hell or High Water>Not a remake at all, but i do consider it a modern Western and an absolute masterpiece>And fuck Tombstone; Val Kilmer has always been a dogshit overrated actorHow can you say something so true followed by something so wrong?
>>61507009Marion Morrison was a pussy who refused to fight in the war.
>>61507009Wow, a propagandist was heavily involved in propaganda? You don't fucking sayFuck John Wayne, he'd be a pro-AWB gungrabber fudd if he was alive today
>>61507216>seething brown hands are still hereHe was more useful as a producer of propaganda, than he wouldve been as a soldier.
>>61507303Oh yeah, it was super important that John Wayne made cheesy 40%RT shit like Tall In The Saddle instead of actually joining up like Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable didThat fat bitch didn't even join the Army's movie department with John Huston and John Ford and Frank CapraJohn Wayne was just the Steven Seagal of his time, a blowhard fake badass who just made a bunch of movies about how cool John Wayne is
>>61507347>made a bunch of movies about how cool John Wayne isHe was pretty cool.
>>61507387https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oeatjEpisode of The World At War, which has interviews with Arthur Harris, Curtis Le May, and this guy, who joined the 8th Bomber Group instead of buying a deferment so he could pretend to be a cowboy
>>61507009based . McCarthy was right. fucking homosexual jews in here spreading lies lol.
>>61507395cry more faggot.
>>61507387
>>61507401You are either way too young or way too old to be posting here
>>61507009>>61507433Post your gunhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOtinTlx7yo&pp=ygUiaG9sbHl3b29kIHdhcyBhbHdheXMgcmVkIHJhem9yZmlzdA%3D%3D
>>61507418Kek I need to watch this monstrosity
>>61507216>Wayne was exempted from service due to his age (34 at the time of Pearl Harbor) and family status (classified as 3-A – family deferment). Wayne repeatedly wrote to John Ford saying he wanted to enlist, on one occasion inquiring whether he could get into Ford's military unit.[39] Wayne did not attempt to prevent his reclassification as 1-A (draft eligible), but Republic Studios was emphatically resistant to losing him, since he was their only A-list actor under contract. Herbert J. Yates, president of Republic, threatened Wayne with a lawsuit if he walked away from his contract,[40] and Republic Pictures intervened in the Selective Service process, requesting Wayne's further deferment.[41]Looks like he wanted to go but would have had to lose everything professionally to do it. The studio execs would have destroyed him with lawsuits. He contributed in the ways he could, including apparently sounding out MacArthur about allowing OSS ops in the Pacific for Wild Bill Donovan while on a USO tour. He went on to be a vocal opponent of communism in the post war. And fuck it, he's about as iconically American as you can get. So shut your commie mouth.
>>61507876He was a pussy cuck and so are you for buying into his bullshit lies.
>>61507787Not watching your faggot incel rant video lol>>61507876Funny how everyone else was able to get around it, including basically every major director from the 1940s, but John Wayne couldn't swing itAlso that John Ford story is a massive load of shit. John Ford famously gave John Wayne a bunch of crap for not enlisting.
You know in all those movies you never saw John Wayne's teeth? Not once.I think there's something wrong when you don't see a guy's teeth
>>61500568IMO true grit is a swan song and and loving tribute to old Hollywood and their western films.
>>61507787
>>61507787to add to >>61507969, i wasnt trying to suggest that it was a bad thing that Wayne was anti-communist. I was trying to say he was baste.captcha: 0NAW
>>61507898>Not watching your faggot incel rant video loloh well one in a hundred of you commie prolapsed anuses actually has a gun, it still keeps the 99 out.
>>61508028Now sneak into your mom's boyfriend's closet and take a picture of his Taurus, noguns underage retard>>61508011Anti-communist in the 50's means jack shit. It was the Cold War, literally everyone was anti communist. John Wayne collaborated with the feds and snitched on a bunch of people and got them blacklisted, and that is gay and retarded.John Wayne was a glownigger
>>61503880Anon… please tell me you’ve never watched tombstone… otherwise I worry about your choices..
>>61508143Tombstone is a 5/10 movie, and Val Kilmer bumps it up to 7/10
Who gives a shit about an actor's political opinions? They're stupid Southern California morons who perform for our amusement, I don't give a fuck what they think about communism or some shit. Only thing that matters is how well they act, and John Wayne is like George Clooney: only plays one character and can't act for shit, but is in a few decent flicks
john wayne was doughy and lame
>>61508228His movies were generally of the G/PG variety, family films(though if they were re-rated today would potentially be rated higher, due to gunplay and occasional useage of the word Nigger)Hew wasnt hardcore like Clint Eastwood, whos movies were bloody and often rapey.
>>61508256This is why Clint is and will always be much cooler than Marion.
>>61508281Was a different era. Although they did have a couple decades of overlap, (late in waynes career and early in clints) Waynes movies were mostly from a much more prudish time in hollywood. Clint came later and contributed to an era of much more violent, R rated type movies becoming normalized.
>>61508293addendum, i said violent when i should've said graphic. waynes movies had plenty of violence, but not really the same kind.
>>61508293>>61508300Fair and reasonable response.
>>61508143Val Kilmer is alright, but not the rest of the movie. the gunfights are 90s schlock and I could not feel the sense of brotherhood which is supposed to be the real draw of the movie, the character drama round which the events revolve. nor was the romance convincing. perhaps the problem is 90s camerawork, fiddly dialogue, the need to be constrained by IRL accounts. I dunno. but it didn't excite me one bit.in contrast, Coen Bros' True Grit enthralled me enough on first viewing that I proceeded to read the book, watch the remake, and then the Coen Bros' version again and againit is as >>61507921 says, to me also True Grit felt like>a swan song and and loving tribute to old Hollywood and their western films.in my eyes it bookends an entire genre, in the same way Master And Commander did.YMMV of course.
>>61508407>watch the *original John Waynetypo
Best part is on right now
>>61503902pale rider was basically Shane with ghostly EastwoodCimarron, one from the 30's and one from the 60's the three godfathers had multiple adaptations, which includes the first ie age movie and Tokyo godfathersthe Virginian had multiple adaptations >>61504402>3:10 To Yuma, which is also way way better than the original.why? it felt like the main character was getting cucked althought the movie. the original had an interesting thriller and philosophical elements to it unlike the remake which was just actionslop and le cool badass following them. >>61508256had Wayne ever said nigger in his movies?
>>61500568>>61500568https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv_WGEHr4I
>>61500568you guys should check out the author of true grit other books. guy's like Cormac McCarthy but he's focus more on being hilarious and just being comfy
>>61511166>had Wayne ever said nigger in his movies?Not that i can recall. It's always other characters saying it in his movies. Wayne says Jap alot in his war movies but im not sure thats even a slur.
>>615044273:10 to Yuma remake is rad as hell and Charlie Prince is an awesome villian.
>>61508106>waaa waaa these commies got blacklistedGood.
>fag keeps laying on the bait shitting on John Wayne hoping for mad boomers>gets noneLol
>>61511245There are lots of faggots who think the word Jap is a slur. I got banned from a faceberg group once for arguing there was nothing wrong with saying it because my WW2 vet grandfather used to say it
>>61511450My grandparents said nigger occasionally but nobody is going to argue that it's not a slur.
>>61511166>had Wayne ever said nigger in his movies?You will have to watch 'Mountain Men' with Bryan Keith and Charlton Heston for proper use of that epithet.
>>61511166>Cimarron, one from the 30's and one from the 60's And Cimarron the TV is series from the '60's.
>>61511245>but im not sure thats even a slur.It is not. Neither is Jew OR Jewess.
>>61511483>nobody is going to argue that it's not a slur.Unless you say it and are one. The hypocrisy of modernity.
>>61511166> it felt like the main character was getting cucked althought the movie. That's the fucking point, he's been treated like crap and kicked around and now he's going to put Ben Wade on that train and make everyone respect him. It's like Rocky.>the original had an interesting thriller and philosophical elements to itIt straight up didn't, it was an incredibly middling generic western. >muh actionslopNigger, what do you think old westerns are? They'd crap out a hundred of those a year, and they were all basically the same fucking movie, they were the definition of slop. A few of those became "classics", but just the ones that broke the rules and subverted the tropes.
>>61511205My dad's favorite book is Dog Of The South
>>61502526Wayne doesn't play the drunken retard as well but he is much more convincing in giving Cogburn a menace and strength. Bridges' Rooster is harder to believe as a hardass marshal and comes across more like a hobo.
>>61504553She turned out incredibly attractive as an adult though, somehow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOB8T-P2bEQThis is an interesting "side by side" comparison of key scenes from the two movies.You can see that the remake took a lot of its shot compositions from the original, and there's a lot to be said for the beautiful landscape you can see in the background in the panoramic older style.Modern steadicam rigs however have a visible advantage over fixed tripods, and the acting IMHO is arguably better.
>>61515531>Bridges' Rooster is harder to believe as a hardass marshal and comes across more like a hobo.well, that's exactly the "grand reveal" of the plot, in both book and movie; mean drunk Rooster turns out to be mean marshal Rooster after all, with true grit>>61515703she peaked in Bumblebee imho (which is actually a decent TF movie, although 1986 is still by far the champ)she looks increasingly mutt of late and the cosmetic surgery is showing, which is dreadfully pitiable in one so young
>>61516465>top: living color>bottom: pissvgh
>>61506186>>61506528A man is hanged by being hung from a rope around his neck.
>>61503902The Sisters Brothers and Bone Tomahawk are good new dark westerns that don't get enough love. John C Reilly and Joaquin Phoenix knock it out of the park in the first one, and probably has some of the best gunplay of any Western.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhypsYozSwY
>>61506422I have a cartridge conversion walker in .45 colt, but it's mainly because I wanted to take on a project. It's timing is iffy even after taking it to a machinist where you have to manually reverse the cylinder after cocking, and the lever still has a tendency to come loose during firing.Thing's as big as my Model 29, but is kind of a pea shooter in comparison.
>>61503127FILL YOUR HANDS YOU SUNOVABITCH
>>61502062Agreed. 1st one feels too campy imo.
>>61503929Fuck you Val was great as Von Cunth in MacGruber
1860-1895 in the American West and 1650-1780 in the Caribbean are, if not the coolest periods in world history, definitely the coolest in the Western Hemisphere.Can't tell if pirates or cowboys are cooler though.
>>61502734The only pill I take is my daily dose that Dr. Piccolo gives me.
Recently watched pic related, vera cruz and magnificent sevenAll were much darker in tone than I thought.
>>61520593You want dark, watch The Last HuntIt's got murder and rape and racism and a bunch of scenes of guys mowing down buffalo herds. It feels like a movie from 1969, but it's from 1956, and I have no idea how it got past the censors. Kind of a shitty movie, but way ahead of its time.Also, obviously watch The Searchers if you haven't already. John Wayne plays a real bastard in that one.
>>61520740Vera cruz 1954Man of the west 1958Magnificent 7 1960Man of the west gave me huge cabin horror and RDR2 vibes
>>61519492>MayfieldI've played with more realistic cap guns than whatever the fuck that was
>>61507216>refusing to fight in unjust war the American people wanted no part inMuy basado, cabron
>>61505712>It is essentially a short sword. Its it too large to do some knife stuff.Seconding. Son and I bought cheap matching ones of this design and made up custom leather sheathes for them. They look impressive but are impractical for any real use. I tested mine by cutting down a 1.5" sapling to use as a walking staff, basically using it as an axe. A machete is better for clearing brush (thinner, lighter, longer), but this can cut a lot heavier stuff.
>>61521066I own a walker, and it honestly feels that weak when I shoot it. Heavy bitch with a relatively light load.
>>61520932I didn't fucking ask
>>61521273Yeah, nobody in America wanted to fight in World War 2You fucking retard
>>61521799Yeah. Fuck you too.
>>61503929>And fuck Tombstone; Val Kilmer has always been a dogshit overrated actorThe actual place is dogshit as well, I reccomend Bisbee to any traveler in that corner of AZ. Tombstone is glorified trailer park festering in the hot plains, Bisbee is an artsy-fartsy hippie town nestled in beautiful mountains
>>61521804They wanted nothing to do with foreign wars until they were dragged into it
>>61507401>Human dignity is BADYou've never had a single thought of your own. If every Jew and gay person disappeared overnight, you'd find a new minority group to pin your insecurities and failings on, because you're weak garbage.
>>61522024And then the question everybody was asking was "why are we invading Germany when it was the Japs that attacked us?"
>>61523565>>61522024>>61521273Are /pol/tards really this disconnected from reality?
>>61524665yes and noyes, they areno, in this case there was a widely reported sense of reluctance and perplexity as to why they were fighting the Germans. most GIs didn't feel the need to be involved in the European war, and in fact large numbers of the US Army were of German-American descent. that attitude only changed after Kasserine Pass for some, Normandy for the rest.
>>61522123Guess we'll never know till it happens huh
>>61519980>too campyI kill you!
>>61525575>perplexity as to why they were fighting the GermansBecause the Germans declared war on us, not the other way around
>The Sharpes carbine is a superior weal-ACK
>>61502062Agreed, but the original is a great film in its own right. Nostalgia is what carries a lot of the old movie.
>>61508143Great movie but for me it's still The Good The Bad and the Ugly. It's one of those very rare films where you always hear about it, you figure it can't possibly live up to the hype, then you actually watch it and it's actually a far better and more poignant film than most of its fans give it credit.
>>61504387"the dude who no one takes seriously is the ultimate badass the entire time" is one trope that never gets old for me.
>>61507395It's fucking surreal to me that Jimmy Stewart was a Brigadier General. It contrasts so fucking much with his film image.
