>accurately predicts ubiquity of drones and swarm warfare
>>61571492WTF
>>61571447They don't use drones in Ender's game. They are all piloted. Even the buggers are piloted and not drones.Only the movie used drones.
>>61571447>>61572847lmao yeah m8 in the books all those cap ships and fighters were manned generation ships that had been in space for decades on what they knew was a one way trip to wipe the bug home world out.
The Forever War (1974) contains the word drone 61 times
>In the novel "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card, the concept of drones as we understand them today—autonomous or remotely piloted flying vehicles—does not play a central role. However, the book does extensively feature the use of remote-controlled and autonomous systems in the context of space battles. The combat in the novel is primarily conducted through fleets of spaceships and smaller fighter craft, which are often controlled remotely by the children at Battle School, including Ender Wiggin, the protagonist.>These remote control systems are part of the simulated battles that form a crucial part of the training at Battle School, where the children learn to command fleets and strategize in zero-gravity environments. While not drones in the contemporary sense, these systems share some similarities in terms of being remotely operated for military purposes.
>>61573127yeah, they weren't remote controlled. In the sequels the fighter pilots meet ender and say that he made no mistakes.
>>61572927Yeah but they still end up fighting with swords lol, that shit was so stupid
>named Ender>ends the warhow did the editors let this happen
>>61573778Not to mention ender felt remorse for sending the pilots to their deaths in the final battle.
posting finest prediction in /v/ category
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>>61573127ChatGPT is not a source.
>Speaker for the dead was a more impactful book than Enders game, but it doesn’t get the attention because it doesn’t have space battles… I’ll die on this hill.. and hope that afterwards someone spoke the truth of my life to everyone, the good, the bad, why I am as I am.
god damn was the cover published in 1939 or smth lmfao
>>61573871this game was fucking good
>>61573871underrated/unremembered game>50 players matches on 360 >muh xm8 pr0n, bullpup ak lulz>tactical nukes going off during moscow campaign>cliffhanger ending showing game 2 will be in the pacific theater any Arma mods for this?
>>61574237I really want this game redone but with better gunplay. I loved it on PC, Battlefield 2142 was kinda dying at that point so this game scratched the itch.
>>61571447not really, as already stated, but that book and its sequels shaped my mind so much.
I don't know how new idea it was to make a "queen" for a hive mind in the 70s was but the trope of "kill the queen and all the workers die" is one of my most hated tropes in sci-fi.
>>61574405I liked how Ender's Game handled it because of the idea of complete lack of real empathy from the bugs up until the end of the second war when they realized what they had done. It highlights the theme in the book that empathy makes for good leaders and allows you to effectively combat an enemy.
>>61571447>accurately predicts the widespread use of child soldiers in future conflicts>accurately predicts how the internet will lead to the destruction of democratic institutionsOrson Scott Card had a crystal ball. Change my mind.
>>61571447Not one mention of drone warfare the game
>>61574592Don't forget>Biggest thread to human civilization is bugpeople
>>61574614total annihilation came out in 96 and had drones way before then. It was literally AI vs Clones.
>>61574405but it became so much more in Speaker for the Dead, where Ender and the dead/undead queen exchange thoughts. I loved how it was handled from the "humanity" aspect of Ender
>>61573788>they still end up fighting with swords lolThey fought inside a stasis field that stopped all molecular activity, so a nick of your suit's protective film would kill you instantly.
>>61574635Well technically it was people uploaded into cyberspace and forced to shed this mortal coil.
>>61573800>Not to mention ender felt remorse for sending the pilots to their deaths in the final battle.And Bean apologizes to them (or says goodbye or something) as he gives a suicidal order.
>>61572922yes. that's why it was so fucked up. in the end, there wasn't really a difference between us and them
>>61575145bean books were fun( from what I remember)>Internet Anon takes over the world one Armenia at a time>>61575155okay bugfucker back to >>>/k/lendathu
>>61573127Machine regurgitated text contributes absolutely nothing to any conversation. If you can't be bothered to write your own post, nobody is going to bother to read it. You are a fucking imbecile.
>ctrl-f "Hammer's Slammers">0 resultsShame on all of you.
>>61571447I'm somewhat confused why drones were not used, with FTL-coms used heavily you could send all the drones across spacetime and fight like they were in direct control.
>>61576147>I'm somewhat confused why drones were not used>with FTL-coms used heavily you could send all the drones across spacetime and fight like they were in direct control.That's what the movie did.The novel is much older and didn't predict drones so everything is crewed and people are dying but Ender doesn't know until afterwards, Bean and possibly Alai work it out at "command school" but don't tell Ender, this is maybe a retcon because it only comes up in the Bean books.
>>61571447It also predicted political blogging that could change the world.
The human piloted ships apparently followed the orders of Ender et al closely enough that it never generated questions of sapience. No disobedience, just execution of instructions. They even followed orders that were suicidal. I submit this: if the fighters have human pilots but are otherwise acting like a drone, the connection to modern day drones is valid
>>61573127Never post AI slop again you disgusting faggot. Kill yourself if you can't contribute a human thought to a conversation.
Drones were nothing new even then. Teletanks, Aircraft and Boats were things since the 1930's
>>61574156I read the two books when I was too young to really get it, but it did make me very anti war. Card said something like “you can’t defeat your enemy without understanding them well enough to love them.” I think this contradiction is what drives the major themes of the books.
>>61575401>accurate predictions thread>tanks in the future Surely you jest
>>61573871>frontlines:fuel of warMAI NIGGA
>>61576350>psychopathic bully trolls the Internet, gets elected Presidentah, the 4chud Dream
>>61575241>didn't read the book>is retardedye
>>61576710>The human piloted ships apparently followed the orders of Ender et al closely enough that it never generated questions of sapience. No disobedience, just execution of instructions. They even followed orders that were suicidal.Ender *believed* that they were simulated human pilots.He didn't know the "simulation" was live, only Bean worked it out and maybe Alai.
>>61576742>tanks in the future>Surely you jestDavid Weber too likes to put armored vehicles and gunship aircraft in his far distant future stories but their purpose often is to demonstrate how fragile they are when surprised by presence of future manpads
>>61576742He was pretty on point for the time >smart arty>satellite recon nets>Slammers are so successful in part due to their autistic obsession with sensor and network integration >every gun is an APS if you can see far enough >was predicting man-portable recon drone networks back in the 80sThat one story he wrote where the not!Muslim defector goes on a Mad Max tier joyride through a desert in a stolen tank with no ammo for anything but the coaxial was quite good.
>>61573871Those aren't the remote control helicopter drones from 007: Nightfire.
>>61576710>small number of pilots flee / fail to obey orders / make mistakes>Ender: wow this simulation is fucking real
>>61572922>lmao yeah m8 in the books all those cap ships and fighters were manned generation ships that had been in space for decadesyes, they werenow stop shitposting about books you haven't even read
>>61574156It could've done without the piggies tho.
>>61574156EG is passable sci-fi because it has space battles, all the follow-ons just remind you more and more that Card was a hack.
>>61582503>EG is passable sci-fi because it is a pony with all of two tricks; one, the notion that you could turn a child prodigy into a military genius; and two, maybe the most effective general is a duped psychopath thinking he's playing a game, who can thus sacrifice men and commit atrocities to win the war.I suppose this was hot shit in the 80s, when the Cold War was in full swing, computers and computerised war was taking off in the public eye (picrel), and so was the question of child prodigies, in particular chess-playing child prodigies dreaming of following in the footsteps of Fisher vs Spassky, such as the Polgar sisters whose story is basically Ender's Game for chess.But with a lot less sociopathy.>Card was a hacknot really, he was good enough for that one novelit's just that everything afterwards suffers from sequelitis; he no longer had anything to say about humanity so he's stuck merely telling the stories of what happened afterwards to his characters. essentially writing his own fanfiction.
>>61575155kys bugposter
>>61575155>there wasn't really a difference between us and themSounds like we caught a bugger.Put the mask on.
>>61575155The difference is that they were too stupid to understand what they were doing from the outset. Whereas understood that wiping out an alien race was a horrible thing to do, but come to the logical conclusion that since negotiation was impossible, it had to be done. >inb4 muh late realization and telepathic remorseTotal Bugger Death
>>61574625Always have been, always will be.
>>61577082>>61582365>yes that is what the book said but you didnt even read da bookinteresting bait technique I'll give it 3 stars for originality and 1 for engagement returns
>>61583502Why do you come here?I mean really? Just to act like a retard? You aren't funny. Your bait is stupid. You aren't improving your own mood or adding anything of value to this board.Either have a discussion or go away and do something better with your time.
>>61571447movies way gayer than the book
>>61583826we knowwe didn't even get any Hailee Steinfeld fanservice
>>61583805>retard keeps responding to obvious bait>WHY ARE YOU BATING ME!?!?!?!
>>61574625but anon the bugmen in enders game actually had empathy and just didn't realize that non-chinese non-russian humans are all individual sapient beings instead of just mobiks.
>>61575272>>61576724the fuck are you babbling about
>>61583853doesnt mean shit if they still want to kill us
>>61583857If you can't tell that those paragraphs were blatantly generated by chatGPT you shouldn't post here.
>>61573871Man I miss pissing people off with my shit heli skills and blowing up tanks with chink rc cars
>>61584244Fucking scizo
>>61584406Sorry you're a mental incompetent. It's clearly some sort of LLM text. No one on /k/ talks like that. It's written like an English class essay.
>>61584406you shouldn't post here
>>61574156Speaker was written for women, prove me wrong
>>61584710>>61584520Im just gonna start posing chat gpt stuff now that I know it pisses you off so much
>>61582598>not really, he was good enough for that one novel>it's just that everything afterwards suffers from sequelitisIn one of the forewords he mentions that speaker for the dead was the novel he wanted to write, but enders game had to be extended from a short story to a novel to contextualize speaker and make it sensible (which it really didn't)
>>61584520>No one on /k/ talks like that. It's written like an English class essayIt's also confidentially wrong about really basic stuff.
>>61575272>Machine regurgitated text contributes absolutely nothing to any conversation.this one was kinda funny
