bradley destroys a russian tank with TOWdiscuss
Got anymore pixels?
Thats just T-80.
>>61586156Say it!
Unfait. Bradley is cheating.You are not supposed to bring ATGM to a armored duel.
>>61586156FUCK YOU BLOODY BENCHODLEY
I’M SORRY CHADLEY
>>61586156https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA
>>61586166Not OP's fault, OG video quality is also pretty crap
>>61586156that is quite the canoe it carved into the turret armor, something tells me the T-90M wouldn't fare any better, TZD
>>61586156Based CHADLEY dabbing on turdiesThermals/optics best in classThis post brought to you by BAE Systems (cr)
>>61586199seething
>>61586156>bradley so shit cant even turret toss a T-80another victory for russia and defeat for HATOZ
>>61586167t-80BVM obr 2022, THE ""best"" Puccian tank
>>61586221>>61586166That’s night vision you goof. Sorry we can’t give you crystal clear vision at night. They specifically sent out another one to confirm the kill later on.
>>61586257Gave him the ol' Dentge
>>61586298>mistaking thermals for night visionyou newfags have had two fucking years
>>61586156https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQbZjvAxhIk
>>61586156I can't see shit but I'll take your word for it because we haven't had any exciting footage in a while
>>61586294How can you tell it's a T-80BVM and not a T-80BV?
Do you think the crew survcives??
I'm sorry Chadley.Where in Ukraine did this happen?
IM SORRY CHADLEY
>>61586317the overlay is from a DJI drone.these don't have night vision, but they can carry thermalsnow take your pride and shove it up (You)r ass
>>6158635447th is deployed south of Ocheretyne
>>61586365Your cumrades' ass.
>>61586366anon that is clearly fucking thermal holy fucking shit why are you being autistic
>>61586353>tank canoe’dNo
>>61586365A T-80
>>61586365a russian tank apparently
>>61586365>What blew up in Ukraine, now?ziggers, cry about it more /pol/turd
>>61586365as we can see, a T-80
>>6158636530+ tanks and IFVs/BMPs a day apparently
>>61586365It is CRAZY how you dorks try to steal a fairly effective meme 1+ year from inception and still come off as insanely butthurt doing it.
>>61586375They can't even come up with their own memes they gotta steal ours
>>61586167T80s are the most valuable tank Russia has. T90 is a T72 in denial.
>>61586166Sorry Rajesh, Russia still isn't winning.
>>61586365nigga you blind?
>>61586366Whats it like to be wrong about everything all the time?
>>61586199Nah, I wish I had large open maps like this in War Thunder.
>>61586351He is wrong, it is a BV. It can be distinguished by the ERA tiles.
>>61586353They expect all 3 of the mobiks in the wreckage, brother.
I say " Bradley"You reply, "Sorry".Bradley
>>61586156>TOW sniping down main street from max rangeBradley is a camping bitch, 1v1 me broSeriously, this does look like an amazing map for tank games in the future. Long sight lines in select lanes, tree lines to cover approaches to guarantee CQB.This could be a lot of fun in PvP
>>61586199>Omg just like my hecking Warthundertbf there's been a deficit of 73 Easting which has been weird for this being a Bradley game now.TOWs got use with a near 50% efficiency in 73 Easting and I've been feeling a bit blue-balled about them until now.
>>61586323I just found out its also on spotify. I'm saving that shit.
>>61586156Some of the cleanest ATGM vehicle on vehicle footage I’ve ever seen. Based Bradley yet again
>>61586156>still no tank-on-tank duelsThis war has been one big blue balling session.
>>61586156Bradley going TOW to TOW with a T-80 from the font and coming out on top. It’s actually insane how good the Bradley is compared to other IFVs
>>61586788>It’s actually insane how good the Bradley is compared to other IFVsCombat footage offers glimpses into a conflict, it does not tell the full tale.
>>61586323Bradley-sensei, I kneel.We all kneel.
>>61586788The T-80 probably didn't even see them.
>>61586642I actually looked it up and the TOW's range is 3,750 meters, I didn't think it was that far.
>>61586780Squirm. But part of the whole ordeal was that he would shit on the warrior using the Bradley. The bongs would cope with pictures of burned out Bradleys. This was before bradleys in Ukraine. Since you’re new I could link some early threads for you
>>61586829I dont think anyone has ever said anything bad about the Bradley ever, on account of it getting more armor kills in OIF and GWOT than Abrams. >no but in my imaginary war with Britain on the internet Oh, okay.
>>61586828~6 second flight at ~330m/s = ~1980m
>>61586851> I dont think anyone has ever said anything bad about the Bradley everPentagon Wars
>>61586867>Pentagon WarsRoundly mocked on /k/ for years now.
>>61586867A comedy about military procurement.
>>61586853probably less because it accelerates for the first 1.6 seconds. so probably more like 1.6 or so.
>>61586365Another succesfull hi precision rocket strike from Russian side. Ukr energy sistem in agonyю
>>61586876You’d be surprised at just how many people took, and continue to take it at gospel
>>61586166You're free to volunteer and see it up close
>>61586879>юoopsie, fat fingers :^)
>>61586166You should believe Ukraine MoD, they never lied, what are you, a traitor?
>>61586884He upset you so much that his post from two (2) YEARS ago still lives rent-free in your mind, causing you mental anguish, and driving you to seek redemption?Goddamn, he must have fucking destroyed you.
>>61586939>Was armatard ever right about anything?He was right when he broke down and started screeching about how Russians should be killed
>>61586156troop....CLAP....carrier....CLAP.....
>>61586787Russians unironically are holding their tanks back from any tank on tank possibility just so nato dogs dont get any propaganda (((
>>61586156I'm not sure enough Russians have died so far.
>>61586739take your meds fartsniffer
God, if you ever told me that I would ever see the Bradley usings its ATGM in the perfect textbook scenario to destroy a Soviet tank in the plains of Europe, I'd call you insane.Thanks to all involved, my soul can rest in peace now.
>>61586990It made me really sad. Its sincerely depressing to think that this is someone's life.
>>61586851iirc they were regarded kinda poorly during the early days of the iraqistan occupations.
>>61586851Really? Bradley has caused thirdies pain for decades at this point.
>>61587060Thanks for the new pasta
>>61587065Do you frequently concern yourself with the opinions of thirdies? Do their opinions hold great weight in your life? Well, I know there is one anon in this thread who feels great pain from posts made 24 months ago, are you that same anon?
>>61587060Yeah but you’re smart enough to get the gist right? You’re reply >>61587035painted an excellent picture of the retard that goes around accusing everyone of being warriortard and how he doesn’t even exist in the first place
>>61587101Sorry to see you go anon, would you like to tell us more about your exit with another paragraph? Will you come back later and announce your exit again? Don’t stop everyone is fascinated with what threads you in particular are in
>>61587122nta you are fucking pathetic stop shitting up the place
>>61586629SORRY
>>61587221it's especially annoying being unable to talk about literally any british armored vehicle because of the autism surrounding them. the warrior (i know i know i'm not him) has a legitimately interesting approach where it's like "you get a very accurate but rof limited gun, make sure you make your hits count" as opposed to "70 ap rounds, if that's not enough put a tow in it" and it infuriates me that we're not able to actually discuss that decision rationally without that autist shitting up the thread. the tradeoff is legitimately interesting.i'm the same anon i just want to discuss armor.
>>61587247>>61587221Based>>61587244>no you have to believe the psyop and discuss it at length>>61586156It’s hard to tell if that was a 2B or not. The aftermath footage wasn’t very helpful either. Anyone got any theories?
>>61587271did ukes even get the 2B?
>>61587296Yes. There are videos of it. There’s one good with with I think a BMP or mt-lb where a 2B disables it and infantry starts pouring out and then the infantry and vehicle get wrecked with 25mm fire
>>61587328>it just requires the mods to do their actual job instead of getting into arguments, losing the argument, 404ing the thread and then banning people who made them butt hurtAny predictable action is a lever.Whether it's a report click or trolling warrior into pissing off mods, they're there to do a job and you can summon them with the right actions.
>>61586218This movie looks so unbelievably silly now due to current events. Aged like absolute milk.
>>61587383It was always a comedy, retard
>>61587271Considering the top and rear of the turret are completely fucked yet the front turret face looks completely intact suggests it was a top down attack, so likely a 2B.
>>61586156>>61586217>>61586354>>61586363>>61586629"I'm sorry Bradley"Say it, filth.
>>61586156We’re back baby. What a neat video
>>61587425What about this, then.
>>61587410It was based on the memoirs of a turbo autist pretending he had a hand in the Bradley's development.
>>61587383It was silly the moment they said it was supposed to be a taxi, that is the m113, anyone with basic knowledge about mechanized/armored infantry would know that instantly, the Bradley was made with a purpose in mind.
>Mass "it's fake", "video game footage" brigading going on in twatter and redditVatniks absolutely seething over this one
>>61586468Sorry but the are k-hole
>>61587485He reports you when you call him outCan't handle the banter
He's just like me in ARMA 3.
>>61586156I really like the Bradley. The main gun seems perfect for this type of war and the TOW has proven to be effective against heavy armor. It’s not normal for an IFb to fight a MBT but the Bradley does it without a second thought
>>61587580The high crew survivability really shined in this war.
>>61586218>>61587383That's right fast and dangerous you don't need fucking armor in the tank combat... how many hits those tanks can take anyway? 2? With speed you can position faster for the hit and with a kick you can disable tank in one goSimply epicAlso the fucking distance on this shot >>61586156
>>61587595Yeah I nearly doubted her after facing years of 100 pound HME IEDs in iraq but it’s shrugged off rockets, drones, and atgms in Ukraine
Why didn't the tank shoot? It was abandoned.
I won
>>61587622You need to see something to shoot.
>>61587622>Russia>thermals
SECOND TO NONE
>>61587655[techno intensifies]
>>61587639they do often have thermals but the fov is giga narrow and the screen is like 2x2"
>>61586156Shouldn't the vehicle that is specialized in killing things over long distance with the first shot be better than the all purpose master of none transport vehicle?
>>61587580The Bradley was specifically designed to drop infantry on the objective and then help fight off the inevitable armored counterattack.
>>61587738They are one in the same vehicle
>>61587738This happened in the 47ths AO. I don’t think they have leopards
>>61587013Send more Bradleys, faggot
>>61587738>long distanceCheck>one shotCheck>dead tank CheckSeems like the Bradley is the vehicle you are describing
>>61587738better to have 6 chads ready to deploy than 11 betta cock suckers, so the logistic actually works in chadly
>>61587383>now due to current eventsThe first time it saw battle it excelled.
>>61587738It has infinitely better optics and sensors than that T-80.If the T-80 saw it first, it could likely take them out in one shot.
>>61587383What about the portholes?
>>61586407>>61586391>>61586390>>61586386>>61586385I know there's more but these are precisely why vatniks trying to reverse-uno this meme fails so fucking spectacularly every time. >>61586447Because they *are* insanely asshurt over it. They don't know that they tell us which memes piss them off the most whenever they VERY desperately try to steal and reverse it.A whole psychological study could be written about the phenomenon, it's that consistent and fascinating.Also, sorry for the mass-reply faggotry. It was just too funny.
>>61587738Yeah but russian thermals are shit.
>>61586507Unironically Russia-mains complain too much about them. Their gun-depression and tininess compared to Western-style MBTs means they can rarely take advantage of hull-down and sure as shit aren't peaking over hills. It's literally why gaijin has nerfed a bunch of the more fun open maps like European Province, Fields of Poland, etc, and why they play fuck-fuck games with map rotation that favors city-maps and close-range fights.It's also probably a part of why we don't get new gamemodes that expand engagement ranges.No, no. You will take your tanks capable of reliably taking targets out well over 2.5kms away and play them on shoebox-sized factory and city maps. R E A L I S M, you see.
>>61586156Russian losses last 24 hours and totals, personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded08.05.2024Tanks — 7418 (+13)Armored fighting vehicle — 14246 (+19)Artillery systems — 12317 (+30)MLRS — 1057Anti-aircraft warfare — 792Planes — 349Helicopters — 325UAV — 9728 (+11)Cruise missiles — 2151 (+2)Ships (boats) — 26Submarines — 1Trucks and Fuel Tankers — 16549 (+40)Special equipment — 2019 (+2)Military personnel — aprx. 477430 people (+970)
>>61586156Damn what fucking BR is this?
The FV-510 warrior couldn’t do this. It really is crazy seeing how much thought went into the Bradley and its subsystems.
>>61586959>troop....PLAP....carrier....PLAP.....
>>61587433"LOUDER!"
>>61587980
>>61587967World of Tanks has exactly the same problem. As a general rule never play 'sim' games written by russian / russian adjacent devs. Highfleet is good though.
>>61586156you just got TOWed nigga
The Bradley is the ultimate shining example of how well military procurement can go. It does everything it was asked to do and more, considering its going toe to toe with Russian tanks and winning.It protects its crew, it projects defensive and offensive power up to the tree lines, and it absolutely dominates almost all enemy vehicles except tanks, which it still attacks defensively or as attacks of opportunity.Its advanced optics soundly defeat enemy trash optics, so it can reach out and touch enemy positions without fear of reprisal, especially at night when Russians have dogshit night vision if any at all.Every single person involved in developing the Bradley should be fist pumping at these successes.
>>61588234Give it a rest warriortard. The fart fumes have gone to your head. The CV90 is the best IFV in Ukraine by an order of magnitude and your samefagging and bumping won’t change that
Warno is unironically a fucking simulation
>>61588258even the ukes themselves admit that the CV90 is shit and their main use for it is indirect fire
>>61588234>Modern Western military equipment is better than Russian equipment Wow. Shocking revelation. >>61588288You mean fire support which is also what 99% of the Bradley's use-case in the conflict is.
Can anyone enlighten me on the TOW wire mechanism? How freaking fast you have to unravel the thing without snapping
>>61588390Most TOWs are wireless now
>>61587980>>61588133a fucking submarine being on this list at all will never not be funny
So here's an ignorant question /k/. As I understand it, the two biggest hurdles to IFV vs tank, at least an IFV equipped with a TOW is that 1. It requires a visual lock to be maintained and 2. It's range is limited compared to a tanks main gun. Other than exploiting the terrain to catch a tank by surprise, what could be done to improve an IFV's odds if it gets caught out and has to deal with a tank? Could/should the TOW be replaced by a more capable system? Something with either more range, something fire and forget, or both maybe?
>>61588390TOWmato
>>61588390it's actually pretty simple
>>61588555while there are better options out there the TOW will do the job most of the time and we already have the inventory and infastructure for them
>>61588555Blind it with HE first. Also modern TOW have a 4.5km range.
>>61587296>>61587345Here is the Too Bee.Last Winter.Avdeevy Breevy.
>>61587724The Burton Music collection, such like what Andy Clarke made, is more Synthpop. Or what we might call Synthwave today.
>>61588748Holy shit. That chaingun is terrifying
>>61587013This. Some of us expected this in the 80s and it didn't happen. A ghost of a forgotten future became real
>>61586156>straight down the road as it turns the cornerwhat's the fucking point of having a vehicle that is designed to traverse difficult terrain to engage the enemy if you just stroll down marked roads like an uber driver?this whole war is a kekfest of idiocy
>>61586156Maybe its confirmation bias but, does anyone else feel like bradleys are disproportionatelly more effective than tanks right now in Ukraine? Atleast based on the terrain, capabilities and tactics employed by UkisSeems like the Ukis would do better woth 50 extra bradleys compared to 50 extra AbramsThey are in theory, countered by tanks, but russian tanks arent really doing so hot against em right now, and they seem to do fine against loitering munitions and HEAT munitions
>>61586577The turret rises
>>61588922Pound for pound the Bradley is the most effective ground combat vehicle in existence. People hate on the gun but it absolutely wrecks infantry and vehicles. Check out>>61588748 just slaughters an entire crew. The high ROF and large ammo capacity let it stick around the fighting for a long period of time. The TOW is simple and clearly effective against tanks.
>>61586629GOMENASAI CHADLEY-SAMA
>>61588777Theres this video of a BTR-82 ambushed by a bradley, whole squad got slaugthered, some guy got his head popped like a ballon by the 25mm
>>61587985kek.7>>61588202And I was one of those retards that left World of Tanks for War Thunder because of "muh no RNG, muh physics." That was before volumetric came in and curiously disproportionately favored Soviet vehicles. I will check out Highfleet, though, thanks anon.
>>61588922Yeah. Brads have lower ground pressure and a smaller footprint. They are easier to drag out of trouble.It also takes less material to hedgehog them all-around against pinpoint attacks.A tank, being simply a much larger vehicle, with more power at its disposal, will be more combat-capable than a Brad IF you invest into it.But the whole socio-political direction post WW2 has been away from heavy industry. So, development to leverage the strength of a big honking tank has been late. It's a lot of heat, a lot of steel, a lot of cement and space for giant factories and storage lots, a lot of explosives, cleanup and disposal of waste materials...Consider how we still use the M2HB 50cal. Lighter and more handy versions already exist, 3 options in fact. US Army XM893, Singaporean NSG, Russian KORD.But replacing even that degree of steel is avoided, since what we have is deemed good enough.
>>61588390It's not even remotely complicated; the wire is just coiled up. Same idea as pic rel in whaling boats.>>61588555>Other than exploiting the terrain to catch a tank by surprise, what could be done to improve an IFV's odds if it gets caught out and has to deal with a tank?Take out the tank's optics and pop smoke.>Could/should the TOW be replaced by a more capable system? Something with either more range, something fire and forget, or both maybe?Could? It already is. The tender is for something fire-and-forget with a range of 10+km and they want to start implementing them by 2028. Should? Yeah, but it's not urgent. You have big dick TOWs, little dick TOWs, bunker buster TOWs, top-attack TOWs, EFP TOWs, etc. Part of the appeal of the TOW is the low cost, versatility, ruggedness and simple operation and despite how it might look on camera the effect on target of a TOW vs something like an AT-4 is comparing apples and oranges. A TOW's warhead contains somewhere between 2.4 and 5.9kg of HE and as such is very capable of general mayhem as well as defeating armor while the ENTIRE weight of an AT-4 is 8kg or so and an NLAW is 12kg and they both top out at around 800m in range. The Javelin (which is a pig among modern infantry ATGMs at ~23kg) has an 8.4kg HE payload but the only flavor it comes in is tandem HEAT and without the lightweight LCU it has a range of 2.5km compared to the TOW's 3.7km. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if what eventually replaces the TOW is basically "Javelin, but bigger and more versatile" and with a spotting drone to help longer shots.>>61587013>>61588830I still can't get over the fact that in 2022 there was a very real possibility of conscripts born in the USSR being killed in eastern Europe by nazis with panzerfausts and rebadged MG42s.
>>61588922tanks are fucking useless periodconsider the fact that in the second half of the GWOT they had to conjure up SEP and TUSK to even keep the M1 relevantin a network-centric or even linked environment tanks are a tremendous liability even outside of urban environments because they're slow, have shit visibility, are prone to mines, can't carry infantry, and rarely have a range gap between tank-killer IFVs like the Bradley, M1128, LAV-AT, etc. the days of rolling 6-10 tanks deep in an open field are over. Ukraine is a weird fusion of WWI, WWII, GWOT, Korea, and VietnamYou've got soldiers in trenches who might have TOWs that you've got to traverse a minefield to get to, with IEDs in various places, while other combatants are inventing bizarre new traps and technologies to drop a grenade on you with an RC toy, all while under artillery fire with air superiority denied by SAMs, in a shitty wasteland, but one side has E-8 JSTARS and RC-135 ISR. tanks don't fit into that
>>61589162>>61589162>what could be done to improve an IFV's odds if it gets caught out and has to deal with a tankWP smoke and APS. if you somehow end up in a direct engagement with a tank while you're in an IFV, someone's fucked up. the Bradley's optics are miles better than a T-80>Could/should the TOW be replaced by a more capable system? Something with either more range, something fire and forget, or both maybe?SACLOS will always be way cheaper and more available than SALH or F&F. Remember that the T-80 and up are (supposed) to have IR jammers for SALH (if they even work). SACLOS is a happy medium between shitty missiles (MCLOS) and expensive gucci shit (hellfire, javelin)
>>61589162>You have big dick TOWs, little dick TOWs, bunker buster TOWs, top-attack TOWs, EFP TOWs, etc.TOWs are the fruit of the ATGMs.
>>615885551. TOW outranges MBT guns2. if you get a flank you can hit them with AP in sensitive areas and if you don't, HE in the optics to stun or blind them>>61589026what happened to him, he evaporated
>>61586366Anon, you immediately outed yourself as a retard.https://enterprise.dji.com/mavic-3-enterpriseback to /pol/ you go nigger
>>61586156Every time I see that horse logo in these videosI am suddenly reminded of the Studio FOW horse logo
>>61589360NTA but I've been trying to figure it out since I saw it. Still no 100% sure, but what I think happened was doubled up tank mines.>low fps so hard to look for any high speed objects in general so will never be really sure>the dirt spread pattern indicates pressure from below the vehicle>looks like most of the road wheels on the left side are missing causing a heavy listing>explosion 1 frame before fireball around 10ft in diam(0:08 timestamp) occurs on it's front right road wheel, majority of PGMs won't target that area, additionally dirt was moved in a arc from the force>explosion frame 2 shows a flower burn on all 4 sides, rather than circular burn/ball we'd see with a PGM as it's exploding in air, additionally the size is My bet is on stacked mines due to violence and level of explosion.But who knows, I only have experience with GBUs and Hellfires from the chairforce.
>>61587271my vote is 2A - damage along a horizontal axis seen in the daylight pic
>>61586156Fucking finally some TOW footage. TOW II?
>>61588777>>61589010Here you go fellas, nice trips.
>>61589556NOW LET'S HEAD OVER TO THE POST-GAME INTERVIEW WITH THE RUSSIAN TEAM!-- IT'S ALL YOURS, FRANK!
>>61586156amazing
>>61586156I'd be surprised it needs a tow. If something isn't decimated by an auto-cannon it will be by the rate of fire. I mean I don't think people get the kind of advancements that have happened. An artillery can devastate an entire fucking city and level it with sustained fire. They're playing footsie with the russians. Testing what is the least they can do. Those kind of cannons can just fire a burst on a building structure and level it if people REALLY wanted to. It's no longer inhabitable. We're playing with so much fucking fire it's a joke to people.
>>61589590lmao, man that reminds me of the mtlb aftermath too with the dude just fucking toasting on the ground at the end>webm rel>>61589622Is this chat gpt or are you retarded.
>>61589639We get it, you grew up in a stone house that should have been condemned a century ago. A war isn't going to solve you problems. That type of auto cannon will punch through those walls.
>>61589659Even if you're in a fucking bunker with like solid foot or larger concrete walls like a fucking flack tower, these cannons will straight up eat through them like they were a hot knife through butter. The nuke seems inhuman someone can push a fucking button just regular fucking shit you have no idea how fucking destructive it's going to be. Bombs do a shit ton of damage especially fire bombs, but it's likely worse when people are involved and actively want you to fucking die.
>>61589659>>61589679Nigger I served in the chairforce and have watched bradleys do work via mq9s, I know what they can do.You're sounding like a weird schizo or gpt.Yes they can punch through concrete pretty easily, but you're overinflating it. They'll shred some houses but not in 'a few shots', even mud huts even with the HEI-T rounds.TOW is better for engaging any armored target that can shoot back, that is doctrine.You do not play with luck on first engagements of armed and especially fucking armored targets, unless you're 100% confident(bmps probably the only choice there) 3 rounds of 25mm will fully disable it or against unarmed vics. TOWs are primary.
>>61589713even mud huts hold together pretty well even with the HEI-T rounds*fucked that up
>>61589713Mud huts aren't even worth the ammo. They can straight up drive over them and crush them. That's a shitty fucking comparison.
>>61589742I mean not to start a flame war or anything, I mean if they wanted to level those kinds of huts they can do it with a lot less. That's like a fucking zero on the scale of has a chance.
>>61588748>vehicle hit>everyone exits>immediate followup rounds on crew>suppressed>grenade/HE rounds>suppressed team deadLike a well oiled machine
>>61589742>shitty comparison>actual combat I've seen occur>as if most bradley engagements during coin were against buildings/mudhuts Alright you're retarded>>61589758That's my point, either some private snuffy with serious putty/disp rocket or we'd drop a gbu12 and call it a day. You're not going to waste 50+ rounds of HEI-T for that. Trying to say the 25mm is going to tear apart buildings 'in a few rounds' is fucking laughable unless it's a corrugated sheet shed.Either way, back to chadley time.
Warriortard predicted this
>>61586920oh hey ivan
>>61586166>>61586156i converted my own and gave it 1000kps, not all that better but there might be an extra pixel in there
>>61586166>recycling the other side's comments again
>>61589556I don't think that helmet did much there.
>>61591409Agreed. I'd demand a refund if that was me.
>>61591409Now come on, we can blame equipment all we want. But ultimately its your responsibility to avoid being hit in the face by a 25mmNo refunds
Russia bros, what is the explanation for this?
>>61587483unintelligible vatnik slur
>>61586173Second to none
>>61588748As if getting hit by a TOW and then shot up with 25mm wasn't enough, some asshole has to drop F1 grenades on you from a drone as well.
>>61587931There's still two on the rear ramp.
>>61588133Jfc. They'll cross 500,000 human losses by mid June.
>>61588616Huh. I always envisioned the wire spool staying in the laucher. Why carry the weight on the missile?
>>61591619What level of NIJ rating would you need to survive a direct hit to the bucket from a 25mm? Mind the ackface deformation.
>>61592382Reminder that they already lost more than the USA did in the entirety of WW2
>>61593060You want the Level 4 Export gradeThat's where you get your arse out of the country like a bullet and keep running
>>61592402Which setup is more likely to fuck up the wire?
>>61586298>That’s night vision you goof.Must be state of the art western drone technology when you can't see shit. Someone donate them DJI.
>>61589916aftermath looks like it hit two mines...
>>61592402you need to carry the whole weight anyway if you use the whole spool, so you might as well maximize momentum by accelerating it earlier instead of waiting until your motor burns out
>>61593060You need the extra kevlar insert or +P helmet for 25mm.
>>61593546Yea top attack TOWs are excellent. Thing is wrecked
>>61593579>top attack TOWblows both tracks off
>>61593585>ATGM can damage weak links of steel???Sure can, the tank could have also hit a mine before being TOWed into submission. Hard to tell but atgms can absolutely detrack tanks
Bradley is best in class
>>61587595I still remember the guy who snuck out of hospital to go and rescue his Bradley after they had to abandon it.
If the Bradley is so good then why did so few countries adopt it? Not intending this as a knock on the Brad. Just curious why so many foreigners are fucking retarded.
>>61594242Bradley was never really offered to other countries.
>>61594242US was focused on mass producing for its own forces and IFVs are relatively simple to make so euros could make their own. Military procurement is pretty political and being able to choose an option that stimulates your own economy makes a lot of sense. Look at the CV-90, Sweden will set up a factory in your country if you agree to buy them. It’s hard not to turn that down as a politician when it means creating local jobs and not sending as much money to America. On the opposite end of the spectrum, countries that wanted to bring the US closer did buy them
>>61594242Cheaper options exist.
>>61594242They were very expensive and getting a licence to make them locally I don't think was available. So that meant waiting until the US had finished finger-fucking them into enough numbers and then you'd get some. So for most countries that meant, go find something else you can get either from the design country and their lines or a licence to manufacture it.
>>61586166>ziggers will cry about low quality videos>ziggers will still gloat over their Ka-52 videos
>>61586173I'm a bra aaaaaaaa d guy>duh hh
>>61586507Buy Gunner Heat PC and you too can experience the joy of getting TOWed out of nowhere when you you were just peeking over a hill
>>61588748>That cheeky grenade drop on a group of already soon to be deadniks
By far the most successful IFV made to date.
>>61594263It was tho. The Saudis have them.>>61594316Not for IFVs in it's class.>>61594282>>61594318This makes more sense but then, y'know, they didn't follow through and buy many of these "locally-built" politically-favored backroom handjobby Ikea flat-pack knockoff Bradleys. Look, in the 90s United Defense wrapped up their orders and closed the line. Woulda been cheaper to have them run off some localized variants for cheap (the US government encourages this to keep active lines going. See: Lima Tank Plant running off Great Value Abrams for anyone who wants 'em) then setting up your own bespoke euro IFV line.I just don't think they recognized what IFVs like them brought to the table. Yes, even after Desert Storm proved their value. It was retarded.
>>61594530Still nearly 7000 brads were produced, far outnumbering any other modern western IFV. The bongs bought the rights to the Bradley in the mid 2000s and have a pretty good business upgrading old US stock into newer variants
>>61586851The Bradley spent the 90's and early 00's mocked as being an overdesigned piece of shit in the civviesphere.
>>61594581I still don't understand how that happened>haha look at this stupid IFV with an autocannon, a missile launcher, and the ability to carry six dismounts, it can't decide what kinda vehicle it wants to be!>every country with an MIC designs their own IFV with an autocannon, a missile launcher, and the ability to carry six dismounts????????
>>61594581>mocked as being an overdesigned piece of shit in the civviesphereSubstantiate your claims.
>>61586156The fact of the matter is that IFVs are a whole hell of a lot more useful than tanks now. It’s taking some people a lot to admit that but it’s true. Even in a combined arms situation the tank is the least useful ground combat vehicle.
looks like it hit a mine and detracked itself
>>61594657That's just wrong.
>>61594668No it isn’t. It didn’t used to be the case but it sure is at present time. You just like tanks and don’t want to believe it and that’s fine too. And no I won’t ignore evidence from the largest land war in the past 50 years to hear you out
>>61594530>>61594581>spent the 90's and early 00's mockedI always had a fair bit of respect for them and when I spoke to US crews in Iraq and Afghanistan they were always hugely well regarded by their operators. So it was kind of weird ending up in the civilian sector and people would make jokes about them based on some movie, which was kind of strange. Now in terms of being '70's junk' its kind of unwarranted as well because the US spent fooking crazy money upgrading a lot of their fleet and its full of all the real shit that matters- decent fire control, refined operation gear, great IR and modern comm sets with mechanicals that keep going in the worst conditions.That is really what kills the enemyThere's all the boomer wank about armour, speed and firepower, but it grossly ignores the rest of the vehicles attributes that make it easy to use, easy to live in for long periods of time and will have the reliability to just keep on chonking along without breaking down.About the only thing to complain about? Probably the Mine and IED resistance but there's only so much you can do with that chassis, so it'll have to wait for a next generation of vehicle to tackle those things
>>61594705>And no I won’t ignore evidenceMay I see it?
There’s a reason the Bradley is referred to as the “chocolate frosted doughnut” of IFVs, it’s really good
>>61595252That’s kind of neat I never heard that before
>>61589360>what happened to himhe evaporated, anon.
>>61593060> private mobik invests entirety of signing bonus into ultra super duper unbreakable stalinium helmet (from temu) (it can stop a 50 cal bro)> Off to front blyat> Serving the motherland as ablative armor atop when attacked> Bradley sharts shredding other mobiks but due to power superior of Russian (chinese) engineering weak effeminate 25mm fails to penetrate his helmet> force of the shell still breaks his neck
Remind me why don't tanks have TOWs? Already having a 125 mm gun is not a valid answer
>>61596067https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gun-launched_missiles
>>61596067For 99% of the history of armored warfare a tank cannon was superior to an ATGM. Russia used GLATGMs as cope for their inaccurate cannon + plains environment. Even today incidents like this are dependent on a big optics gap. When optics are the same, the side firing a 300m/s TOW is at a severe disadvantage against the side with a 2000km/s APFSDS in any direct-fire combat.
>>61587433"I'm sorry, Bradley!"
>>61586156Based Bradley
>>61595252>>61596223>>61596257What is your life bro.
>>61596264What brand of thirdie is this? Why is the Bradley so good at making brown people seethe?
>>61596274Love the Bradley. Just curious about your life and why you spend hours at a time doing this. Like, it's business hours you should be working.
>>61596285Who
>>61596285>>61596296And there we go >The samefagging to build up his brand
>>61596315You've developed new lore for yourself? A new character to play with?
>>61596343How's the weather in Florida today? Hot? Kimber sticking to your gut?
>>615963434channel attracts weirdos
>>61586156
>>61596315Fucking kek I saw this guy on Jeremy Kyle like 10 years ago.
>>61596285Warriortard is the OP. Warriortard has written most of the posts in this thread. He's currently talking to himself, but you know that already don't you?
>>61586156>discussIt's a video about something firing something at something and then something explodes
>>61596264
>>61596285>>61596227>>61596428>>61596457>>61596476Can you just shut the fuck up already. This is the least interesting psyop on this board
>>61596500The lore goes deep.Is it weird that I kind of miss armatard? Those were such innocent days, now we have a dozen low quality version of him every time something blows up in Russia.
>>61592402If the wire gets stuck in something it won't fuck the missile. If the spool was in the launcher the wire would snap.
>>61594242IFV is one of the things every country with industry base should be able to produce indigenously.
>>61586390lmao
>>61596591I think it's possible that armatard has always been just a russian shillfarm
who has that one deviantart pic exlaining that the bradley is named after the designer
>>61596000>breaks his neckIt would probably take his head off. The momentum of the shell would accelerate his head to a few hundred fps at least. We're talking about a 1 pound projectile hitting a 15 pound object at 2000 fps minimum, which would convert to 15 pounds of head and helmet moving 133 fps. That's like clipping an overpass on a speeding semi trailer.
>>61594657I'm wondering what it means for the future of procurement. The army hasn't wanted more abrams for years, but whether that has changed since the Ukraine war started getting hot I don't know. I do know they were looking into the booker as more of an assault gun than a tank, but even that seems like a questionable purchase. At least the booker should be light enough for island hoping if shit ever kicks off with China I guess.
>>61596550A ban running out? Must be a real alien concept for such a banevading faggot like you, warriortard.
>>61594705Yup, Tanks are going the way of the Battleship.
>>61588922>Seems like the Ukis would do better woth 50 extra bradleys compared to 50 extra AbramsAbsolutely. But it's not just that the vehicle is better suited for the current phase of the war, it's also that it's simply because they have MORE of them already. 30 tanks is worse than useless. It adds complexity to logistics and maintenance while being too scarce to use for anything. But hundreds of bradleys now have hundreds of crews and are a known quantity to mechanics and the people tasked with supplying them. Hundreds more mean that those crews can train other crews, and the system becomes attritable, meaning that you're not going to lose 1/30th of your entire force in a single unlucky drone or mine hit. You can use them for things other than just static defense, and when they break, the logistics and maintenance are more ubiquitous.For any frontline weapon system its effectiveness is more like an sigmoid curve than a straight line relative to the number of systems provided. You have to build a critical mass before their effectiveness is manifested on a strategic level.
>>61586156I got cum in my britches.
>>61592382>They'll cross 500,000 human losses>humanDoubt
>>61588922>Seems like the Ukis would do better woth 50 extra bradleys compared to 50 extra AbramsTanks are still needed and nobody can send more than the US. Simple as.
chadley sama....
>>61586323https://youtu.be/MERhbZbm0Xs?si=r0kbfeVcx4fK6APX&t=362anyone have the sauce on this music on the Abrams
>>61586353Yes, they are fine and will fight another day.
>>61599157>Tanks are still needed and nobody can send more than the USGermany, Poland and Spain send more tanks than US
>>61586156Strap a small radar to top of the Bradley so it can shoot ad drones and other incoming stuff and you would have the best multi purpose veichles ever.
>>61587738WESTERN SUPERIORITY AGAIN
>>61597491Armatard was definitely a real, distinct poster, IIRC he was even doxed as some diaspora Russoid. A lot of the later posters accused of being Armatard probably were just generic Russians and Russian fanboys though.
>>61588908no vehicle can reliably traverse the ukrainian mud.
>>61588922M1 would be indispensable if Russia was still doing massed tank zerg rushes. As things stand right now, it's a positional infantry war with small single-digit number vehicle attacks rarely featuring more than 1 tank from either side, so the bradley can be quite effective. It can kill anything short of an MBT with its cannon, and it can take out the odd lone tank with a TOW missile if needed. It also has better optics and good mobility so it can run away if it sees something above its pay grade.
>>61600109Were I grew up has very dark, sticky mud after heavy rain, good broadacre tractor with dualies on them will get you places nothing else will go.Doesn't have to the a JD, Claas, Case, Massey and the like are breddy gud
All hail chadley
Ross calling me the whiteboy and the shits kinda got a ring to it
>>61600123that thing has extremely low ground pressure compared to any military vehicle.
>>61599885him being a distinct Russian does not mean he wasn't being paid to be retarded
>>61587445hatches open = crew all escaped. russia tank danger meme debunked!
>>61586156I'm still not really of the opinion that enough Russians have bought it. Happily their bald retard is going to oblige.
>>61600109o rly?
>>61601364Look warriortard, your threads keep getting deleted because they are shit. The Russian advance was halted immediately. This one isn’t deleted because there is a faggot mod that has a boner for the CHUDley
>>61601444Who do you think has been spamming the board with low energy RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE and BBC posting? It’s our little fart sniffer. I've been here long enough that I have seen his evolution. Armatard -> Ajaxtard ->Warriortard. Definitely some kind of narcissistic personality disorder or OCD. Gookmoot removing IP counters has allowed him to go wild these past couple months but it’s still pretty easy to see which threads are his. Once actual people start ignoring them he will keep bumping them with meaningless posts samefagging himself. Take this thread for example, without warriortard it would have 404d with 8 posts
>>61587445Cope cage still intact. Your move, HATO
Russian troops going into a meat grinder while E3 Gonzalez is jerking off and vaping in the motor pool every day. Doesn't matter who loses this war because NATO always wins as long as other countries are fighting wars for us.
>>61601539>You sound obsessed and worse than him.You are talking to warriortard, just so you know. He's doing this 'i got banned or called out too much so now i'm gonna call everyone warriortard as revenge' routine for over a year or so. You might will see parts of your posts in another thread being posted, he does that when you pissed him off. He's doing this to make everyone mad and so when he is rightfully called out people will just ignore it.
>>61601676It’s working because it’s annoying as fuck. The fact that your trying to defend the off topic posting adds to the annoyance people feel when he’s brought up thread after thread after thread
>>61586156if Bradleys are so good, they should make a variant without any troop capacity, just a really good light tank.
>>61601772The best lies always start with a sliver of truth
>>61588133>Believing Ukrainian claims of Russian losses>Believing Russian claims of Ukrainian lossesSad!
>>61601878It's pretty obvious you are trying to derail and block off any further discussion, because the longer this goes on, the more obvious it gets how there are too many holes and contradictions in your excuses.Anyone remember the Ajax threads we had before the warrior threads
>>61601883see >>61601894And for everyon else, watch closely, this is a very touchy topic for warriortard and his lies only work so far as long you don't scratch on their surface.
>>61601905>>61601913>>61601921Warriortard, you are always trying too hard. You think it isn't really obvious and too consistent to be something else than you being a little lolcow/schizo that can't decide if he wants to be well known or hidden to everyones eyes? A troll would also never give a rats ass in saving warriortards repuation, you do that every time.Get help or kindly fuck off.
>>61601467I missed the ajax arc, but I guess it makes sense for just one attention obsessed nigger to do all of it
>>61601772He's real, go and pick a topic he was autistic about from his old threads and bring it up in one of his current threads, you'll get the same autism again. Been there done that, and before you answer i don't give a rat ass about what you think, i know you are him, so spare us your next pathetic theatre play.
>>61601955Go in a warriortard thread, say something insulting about warriortard, you dont even have to adress anyone else at all or even another post and you can almost gurantee it will start a postchain that will go on for hours if you keep replying to him.
>>61601955That was not only about what is happen here specificly but in general. Look at how it is always avoided by the same "crew" to even speak about the possibility of him being real and what a clown he needs to be to do all this dumb shit and keep up with it like an idiot.
>>61601985kek, we gotta fill the cave with hot molten lead or warriortard will get away!
>>61602002If you do something similar in every other thread about something else this would be ignored most of all times, that's not the case when actual warriortard comes into play. Why? Because there is actually someone present that feels attacked and fears he becomes even more of a joke than he alreay is.
>>61602026No, there isn't who told you that bullshit?
>>61602133Or you are just a bit out of the loop or didn't pay attention to the latest things he did or just missed them. When he had made five or ten threads that got deleted and you go online half an hour later it would look like nothing had happened at all.
>>61602128No, why would i? Just because you are trying to gaslight that doesn't make it so.
>>61601725What advantage would that bring? If you need a big gun and armor, an Abrams has that covered, if you need to move people around the Bradley has you covered. Why bother with a shittier Abrams that can't move people?
>>61599831They did so before, but not because they sent a ton, but because US sent just a tiny bit. Europeans can't spare much more, but US definitely can.
>>61593549I think that's the answer. The missile gets lighter not heavier at the pointy end.
>>61588202>As a general rule never play 'sim' games written by russian / russian adjacent devs.It's a shame there are so few made by anybody else
>>61594242any western IFV is basically on par or better
>>61602877eh, stabilization is important imo
>>61602902see >>61602117
>>61602973>1 or 2 made it by>this negates all of those posts you just had deleted oh I’m loving this cope >inb4 those weren’t my posts, they were other people perpetuating the psyop that is warriortard
>>61586156Holy fucking based. Incredible footage
>>61586156The Bradley sure does make the cv90 look bad by comparison
>>61586156Pretty cool. I wonder why we haven’t seen footage of a BMP-2 or BMP-3 doing the same to a Ukrainian tank.Is their fire control systems, optics and sensors just too bad or something?
>>61603111Or for that matter a midget mobile. The 40mm was supposed to put in work but it hasn’t done anything and it’s getting hard not to notice
>>61603155Ya weird. On paper as long as the BMP has sight it should rip a Bradley to shreds…on paper that is
>>61603163A bmp-1 can kill every IFV ever built. The problem is landing a hit. Iirc there was a Bradley that took a round from a BMP-1 in the gulf that ended up killing the commander.
Based
>>61602973See what? The post you linked to is deleted
>>61603191Yup especially the ones carrying ATGMs just obviously a nearly blind vehicle lacking decent thermals is going to struggle to land a hit before something with better thermals etc blows the BMP to scrap.
why so many posts deleted ITT?
>>61606116schizos, of the less than based variety
