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Nice photos edition, post pictures YOU took

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I love my Ruger Mark II and I love shooting a friend’s Luger. What are some other preferably centerfire handguns with a similarly steep grip angle? I’m kind of thinking about a Benelli B76 but I’m not sure if I want to spend like $2000 on a limited production gun from 40 years ago with limited spare parts if I’m actually wanting to shoot it. The B76 sure looks cool though, very tempting.
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>>61922006
>Latine
Huh. This a new fancy way of referring to brown brothers?
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Glock
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>>61922060
Delete this
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>>61922060
I was thinking that’s a nice 1911, checkered front strap, nice sights, mag well, textured grips, and then I realized it would be impossible since it would mean Glock would make a good gun.
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>>61922060
>It's actually an effective stippling pattern
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>>61922058
Real nice. Are you thinking of carrying that?

Is it internally gen 1 or is it like a gen 3 internals
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>>61922058
Graveyard shifts with the 1908
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>>61922204
Can you chug that thing and your SSRIs so you can finally fucking die?
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>>61922204
>Graveyard
If we were only to be so lucky
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>>61922031
This ones for you
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>>61922204
That for your skin? Get something with topical vitamin A like tretinoin. Cheaper and more concentrated than these shelf grade versions and the shelf grade ones are used to make your skin look younger.
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>>61922252
Tfw
>>61922263
It’s antioxidant serum. I have retinoids but those aren’t antioxidant
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Are we still Steyr postin?
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>>61922289
What a wretched quality image.
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I'm eyeing the M&p 2.0 RDO. Is the new trigger good?
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Federal HST 50 cpr to 65 cpr depending on quantity. Free shipping on as little as 100 rounds which is pretty insane. If you don't have 9mm carry ammo, this is just about as good as it gets, for just about as cheap as it gets.

https://www.bereli.com/shooting/ammunition/federal-9mm-147gr-federal-premium-tactical-hst-jhp-p9hst2
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>>61922289
It's always Steyr-time
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>>61922364
>jewgun
>sig
>bubits
Cursed
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>>61922325
Is it a big box of 100 or 2 50 ct boxes?
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>>61922393
They have a regular deal for federal HSTs, 65 for 100. That pic is a special offer, 1000 rds for $500. 50 cpr before taxes, free shipping

Bereli is pretty based and quickly became a bookmark
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>>61922289
Who takes pictures like this?
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I'm going to the range tomorrow!
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115grain JHP the best 9mm for self defense for a 9mm?
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>>61922437
Fuck those serrations are so hideous.
Are they at least really effective?
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>>61922393
Does it matter? lol

>>61922443
No
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>>61922437
love me Sticcito P
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>>61922443
124/147 Federal HST or Speer Golds (if you can find them)
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>>61922393
Oh shit I misread your question. I’ve bought their 100rds of 124gr and it was two boxes of 50ct
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>>61922475
Very.
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>>61922558
I have the same model but with an ACRO P2 but I still think the OG RMR is just pure sex
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>>61922558
I love how those drink pop out. Almost looks photoshopped and it fucks with my head.
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>>61922567
Something about the shape. Not sure if that RMR is going back on or the HD or a 507comp

>>61922573
I think that one ended up on the wide angle lens which adds FOV to everything lower than the can. I like how retarded blue this one came out
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>>61922556
Thanks.
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>>61922436
>>61922293
what's wrong with it?
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Ran out of Blazer, so I've been forced to switch to Fiocchi. This 115 gr "Training Dynamics" stuff is made in Italy, and is supposedly loaded a tad hotter than Fiocchi's made-in-America "Range Dynamics" ammo, even though both claim 1,200 fps.

Qualitatively, it definitely feels a bit punchier than the Blazer I've been shooting, and feels roughly equivalent to Federal. I'm very happy with the Fiocchi, considering it was only 28 cpr, which is cheap for my neck of the woods. It even has jacketed bullets, not plated like Blazer.
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>>61922714
Best of all, the Fiocchi gave me the best group I've ever shot at this particular distance (top right and bottom left were ~20 yards, rest were at 8). I'm certain I got VERY lucky with that top right group, but the Fiocchi appears to hit pretty much dead on for this zero, whereas the Blazer hits a bit high. Overall, I'm super satisfied with the Fiocchi; would recommend/10.
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>>61922325
Fuck thats a good deal. I shouldn't spend any more money this month but that might be too stupid to pass up.
>>61922443
124gr or 147gr is the reccomended.
>>61922060
I feel like they really missed a secondary trolling opportunity by not making it a 45 GAP
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>>61922721
how many shots? why do you always either A. not report the actual distance and/or use some misleading target B. don't report number of shots fired or C. your firing cadence. For all I know you shot 2-3 shots in the edge targets, and ~20 yards is not the same as 25 yards actually ranged.
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>>61922058
Cooler glocks
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>>61922734
He LITERALLY posts a picture of the target from the shooting stall.

this isn't a competition, what are you doing, he's not posting these targeting you
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>>61922721
Very nice shooting, anon. I shot Blazer 124 gr tonight and have another 1,000 rounds of it on the way. Think I got it for about 24 cpr. Good info about the Fiocchi differences. NATO spec ammo from Europe tends to run hotter. I think I'll make my next case be Fiocchi.
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>>61922734
The targets at 8 yards were just three shots each. The top right was 6 or 7, the bottom left was 3.
For cadence, it was untimed slow fire.
>20 yards isn't 25
Indeed, for 25 yards I'd have to go over to the rifle range. They have longer shooting periods and typically louder guns, which I don't like.
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Just bought a shot timer
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>buy bullets from bereli
>pay with card
>awaiting payment
Uhhh wtf? Does some human need to process my payments manually with these guys?
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>>61922505
>>61922534
>>61922725
What about overpenetration?
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>>61922746
Thanks! Yeah, the Blazer 124 is my go-to, because it's the softest-shooting 9mm I've found readily available in big-box stores, and it still does really well at knocking down Bianchi plates. Unfortunately, it's been harder to find recently, at least near me. I had to move to 115 Blazer, and now even that's sold out locally. The Fiocchi probably isn't loaded quite to NATO spec pressures, but it's definitely a tad punchier than the Blazer.
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>>61922770
Overpenetration is a meme. You should just understand there could be shit behind whatever you shoot at.
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>>61922761
It's 11pm on fri where they are. I feel like it could take a day or two to process?
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>>61922775
Ah gotcha. I take it you live in a state that doesn't allow having ammo shipped to you. Been there, and it's tough. In that case, I think you lucked out getting the European Fiocchi. Also, your targets always look so nice, I aspire to shoot as accurately as you do.
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>>61922770
This guy >>61922776 is kind of right. You WANT penetration. You want to mitigate that by not being insane and using a 44mag for defense against humans in urban/suburbia. But a good 9mm hollowpoint should be fine.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but even a lighter weight 115gr will pass through someone pretty easy. It'll cut through multiple layers of drywall like butter. Same as the 124
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Did S&W just drop the C.O.R.E nomenclature on their optics ready guns or are there substantial differences?
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>>61922808
Yes, shitty drywall is shit and high velocity 115 will fly through someone and still have enough force to kill. Just don't fire your shit off wildly and know the risks.
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>>61922006
Which model and generation of 9mm Glock should I get if I want maximum compatibility with the majority of Glock parts and magazines in the United States?
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>>61922835
The G26 can use G26, G19, G17, and the G18 stendo mags, so I guess that would have the most magazine compatibility.
For generation, there's probably still more 3rd Gen parts out there than any other generation, though 5th Gen parts might eventually supersede Gen 3.
So, my guess would be a Gen 3 G26.
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>>61922835
A Glock 34 if you want to be a man
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>>61922742
Why would they put a secondary import mark on their own gun that they imported instead of putting it next to the serial plate or molding it in like sane manufacturers do?

Steyr is seriously the kid who ate paint chips and lived under power lines.

>>61922770
I don't think it matters dude, any 9mm except maybe some kind of weirdo frangible is going to zip through several walls (4+) regardless of bullet design or velocity*. You should therefore use the most effective round you can and consider "overpenetration" as standard, shooting accordingly.
*commercially available ammo to the autist who is going to try to poke holes in this, not some primer only party popper blank load you concoct

https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-1-the-original-box-o-truth.278/
https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-2-the-box-speaks-again.280/
https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-12-insulated-walls.308/#post-982

>>61922828
I do not know this for a fact, but the CORE models had improved triggers, in gen 1 at least, where the OR guns are just regular M&P M2.0 models that are now Optics Ready. It should be noted that current M&P M2.0 latest gen basic bitch triggers are quite a bit better than even the CORE "Pro Series" triggers of the old guns.
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Can anyone recommend a milling service? I'd like to get my shield plus cut for a 507k.
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>>61922830
Thank you.

Any caliber that's powerful enough for anti-human defense, risks "overpenetrating." Even the 12 gauge buckshot loads you see recommended everywhere.

It is what it is. Be aware of your backstop
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KbuoxYZ95w
It would be neat if they brought this to market. Boberg action with a rotating barrel that's threaded and a fixed optic mount.
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>>61922864
12 gauge 00 buckshot will fly through like 4 walls and still have lethal force. Even birdshot goes through a wall or two.
>>61922859
>Steyr is seriously the kid who ate paint chips and lived under power lines.
I knew that kid. His family was well off and normal but he refused to spend any money. He was always bug eyed, would howl at the moon and sleep in the woods eating shrooms and wild flowers, exercising by boxing trees. He was a Glockfag though.
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>>61922883
wtf I love Glock now!?
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>>61922859
>Steyr is seriously the kid who ate paint chips and lived under power lines.
Come now Burt, it's a mighty fine gun.
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>>61922289
>>61922364
Unwanted guns by unwanted people
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>>61922859
Yeah but there are M2.0 C.O.R.E models, particular gun I'm looking at is SKU 11833 which I can get for about $600+ tax before the rebate. Which seems like a decent deal.
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>>61922894
Bro
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>>61922863
Maple leaf firearms
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>>61922922
I think your Steyr is neat, anon. I think you're neat, too. :)
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>>61922680
Both of the guns are lying very flat in relation to the camera for starters
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>>61922926
Y-you too
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>>61922922
It's alright fren. I'd buy a steyr if I didn't already have a Glock, Beretta or a S&W
They're kinda cool in a hipster way
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>>61922922
Don't listen to him
We love you Steyrbro.
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Give me one reason I shouldn't get a Glock 34.
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>>61922981
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>>61922859
>Steyr is seriously the kid who ate paint chips and lived under power lines.
Steyr doesn’t care about us. We’re just supplemental income for them. They’re all about their state and military contracts.
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>>61922981
The upcoming Glock 51 in .30 Super Carry will mog it.
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>every other post is a frog now
Christ.
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>>61922995
Thanks for counteracting it by posting a gun...
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>>61922989
Literally all the gun manufacturers are like this.
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>>61922992
Lmao
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>>61922995
You don't belong here.
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>>61922992
>glock ends up making a .30 SC gun before a 5.7 one
fuggg
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>>61922995
Fren
Guns and frogs mix well together
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>>61922995
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>>61922006
Guys as a texture artist, what the hell do I search to find pictures of various gun finishes that are actually worn out? Most search results just show images of hideous fake battle scarred guns not ones with their nitride wearing out from use etc.
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>>61922998
Some more than others.
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>>61922995
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>>61923019
Maybe search "holster wear"?
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>>61923015
Literally a plague of you. I'm starting the next ice age.
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>>61923040
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>>61923040
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>>61923024
I have tried that and get 1000 pictures of people wearing holsters lol, fuckin half my reference library is from photo threads here also. Fuckin search engines are so useless nowadays to me.
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>>61922992
Not going to happen. .30sc is a failed meme.
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>>61923055
If people were intellectually consistent it would replace 9mm eventually
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>>61923019
I would look at military guns. There’s “worn” and then there is actual wear. Some people think throwing your gun and dragging it through concrete looks cool but it’s very obvious the wear is from abuse and not use.
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>>61923063
I’m not very smart, but I’m pretty sure that’s not how the market works.
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>>61923019
All the raised edges will wear away first, I remember seeing ancient CAR-15s that were like this somewhere. Maybe Israeli issue
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>>61923077
The exact same reasons people dropped 40 in favor of 9mm apply to dropping 9mm in favor of the 30SC, except for cost which potentially wouldn't be a factor in the long run.
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>>61923040
My gun btw
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>>61923091
30 SC isn’t really any easier to shoot than 9mm and the cost is prohibitive. Replacing all your hand guns (100s of them) and all of your ammo? Millions of dollars. For what gain? Muh bullets? You can just use magazine extensions that make reloading easier with the fat baseplate
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>>61923063
post yours
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>>61923105
Its less that 40cpr, are you THAT poor?
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>>61923091
I wouldn’t say it’s the same. 40 S&W came about because 10mm was too much afaik. And this was during a time where bullet making tech wasn’t up to par to what we have now. I think the reason 9mm is the norm is because it’s a bit of sweet spot and There’s very little incentive to change it. 30SC was introduced when we had the caliber wars sorted out, so to speak.
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>>61923127
I’d rather be shooting 10mm than faggot ass .32 caliber
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>>61923105
Agencies constantly change guns, the FBI changed calibers 3x in the span of 25ish years. My state police has issued 4 different guns in 3 different calibers in 16 years.
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>>61923143
nice 40 +p fagtron
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Redpill me on 135grain.
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>>61923166
>Paying almost 200cpr for JHPs
no
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>>61923166
Its 9mm
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>>61923166
Separating fools from their money
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>>61923166
More velocity than 147 but more weight than 124. Like Hornady Critical Duty. But the actual gains probably aren't worth the cost
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>>61922325
I just boughted. Why you do this to me, anon? That puts me at 3,000 rounds of 9mm ordered this week.
>1,000 CCI Blazer 124 gr
>1,000 Federal American Eagle 147 gr
>1,000 Federal HST 147 gr

I like to shoot 2 or 3 times a week, so it won't go to waste, but gosh deng my purse is hurtin'.
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>>61923166
I feel like there's no way you're getting any real performance bump from standard 124 grain. definitely not enough at almost 2 dollars a bullet.
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I sleep right next to my gun rack and I've got like 4 oiled up guns on it right now. Will I get cancer if I keep doing this?
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What's the Glock 50 gonna be?
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>>61923252
.50AE
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>>61923255
They aren't allowed to have the model number match the caliber or Gaston's ghost makes them milk the stallions.
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>>61923238
Seriously? I feel like any leftover lead particulate is more likely to give you cancer than the gun oil. Either way, it's probably negligable
>>61923266
Sensible chuckle
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sometimes I want to buy a sports jersey but worry I'll look like a man child
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>>61923334
oh okay, thank god
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>>61922919
That has some kind of improved trigger/sear but the trigger looks to be at least 1 generation out of date. It also has porting and a long slide obviously that's the difference. If they're still making COREs they have more features than just OR

>>61922989
What contracts? LOLL

>>61923230
A case of carry ammo? Holy smokes you don't fool around anon!
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Tried this today for RMR plate screws. Progress was super slow, so I just put the screw in my vice and filed it the standard way. Took the material off really quick, but it caused the tip of the screw to mushroom, making it unusable. Grabbed a couple replacement machine screws from Ace, so maybe I'll try again.
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>>61923402
Maybe it's just because Holosun screws are chinesium, but I was able to take probably 1/16th of an inch off the screw with just my Leatherman file and a couple minutes.
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>>61923366
It was a good price for carry ammo! Now I can feel okay with practicing a few mags of the good stuff each week on my CCW. Anyways, I blame anon. I wouldn't have done it if he didn't post it!

>>61923402
What are you trying to do?
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>>61923441
Yeah it comes off quick with the file. Spinning it on the file with the drill was slow progress though. Maybe I should've been more patient. I ordered picrel for $10 today, but already starting to second guess my pick. Maybe I should've bought a blank one, but I also fucking love America so...
>>61923451
Just shorten this screw
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108rds through it today, including a mag of Buffalo Bore 180gr. Failed to destroy the optic so I think we're good.
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what would be the best approach to killing the very noticeable glare on my trijicon HD front sight? it doesn't communicate very well through pictures, but i swear even the most minute light from behind/above catches on this thing and makes it unusable. like it's covered in plastic wrap or some shit.
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>>61923496
should have bought american
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>>61923480
The Sig Pro optics are pretty decent in my experience. I think most of the animus towards Sig optics stems from the incredibly shitty throw-in Romeo Zero that shipped with a bunch of 365 SKUs.
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>>61923402
>>61923472
I meant to bring that up dang it but I forgot. Since it's a countersunk screw head, the drill chuck (or your vise) is gonna deform the outer circumference. I was going to suggest needle nose pliers to hold the shank close to the head and just rubbing it with a file as normal. That would deform a couple of threads but hopefully not enough to be a problem. That's a tricky screw to deal with. If you have brass/copper vise jaws that would be ideal, but you could use strips of leather or copper as pads instead

Sorry about that
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>>61923496
Hmm, maybe you could try a little drop of superglue? Or scoring it with some sandpaper. Or some Alumablack, and you could mask off the tritium vial with a small piece of tape.
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>>61923521
I definitely tightened the vise way too tight as well. That could've been what did it. Or a combo of both. But I don't mind it not working the first time. The screws are cheap and I enjoy the process of fiddling. Really really stoked the gun works. Between that and the lcp I ordered, I'll be wanting to get some range time in this summer.
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>>61923559
>I enjoy the process of fiddling.
Based. Tinkering with tools is what separates us from the animals (and women).
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>>61923559
Me too, and damaged plenty of stuff myself lol I knew the guy at Fastenal on a first name basis, until they moved out of town. Next best thing I know of is Parkrose Ace Hardware if I don't want to wait for McMaster Carr
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>>61923580
analyzing
analyzing
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>>61922891 #
Steyr gang sleeper agents: Activate
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Any suggestions for 10mm defensive ammo? I'm sure my 180 grain FMJs will smash up the average home invader real bad but I'm more worried about large, angry wildlife. Are Underwood 220 grain hardcasts or Hornady 155 grain XTPs good for that? I'm in a shit state where you can't mail order ammo; local fun store has these for like $25-30 for 20 rounds.
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>>61923602
What are you shooting it out of?
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>>61923624

Glock 20SF.
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>>61922443
115gr FMJs are training/range rounds.

Anecdote: .22LR skull bounce aside, a colleague of mine was cleaning his issued CZ75, NDd and the bullet went basically around the whole room glazing tables, chairs, we never found the projectile, but even if we did, I would reckon it would have a little dent in it at best.
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>>61922842
>>61922851
What kind of interchangeability is there between barrels, slides, springs, etc. between the different models and generations? I've always assumed a G34 barrel would fit on a G26 but not the other way around, though I've never disassembled a Glock so I could be completely wrong.
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>>61923627
Does this mean you have smol hands?
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>>61923366
>what contracts
They have this contract for grenade launchers. They’ve also been contracted to make an armored vehicle.
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>>61923675
nta but aren’t glocks girthy?
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>>61923688
The 10mm frame is large, so getting the SF doesn't necessarily out someone as a manlet. It could be comfy. I'd be curious to try it.
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>>61922006
Ok but is the Glock 26 still relevant for CCing compared to more modern choices ?
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>>61922006
>when /HG/ is berrtta spamming/shilling again
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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>>61923728
yes
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>>61923674
I believe G34s use the locking block dimensions of the G17, and G17 locking blocks were different from G19 locking blocks for Gens 1-4. This means that from Gen 1-4, you could not drop in a G17 barrel onto a G19 frame, and therefore I would imagine you can't drop on a G34 barrel onto a G19 frame, or a G34 barrel onto a G26, etc. etc. With Gen 5, G17s now use the G19 locking block dimension, and therefore you can drop a G17 barrel onto a G19. When you start doing a very long barrel into a very short slide, like a 34 barrel in a 26 slide, you might get issues with unlocking.

Springs vary. Gen 4 and 5 use steel, dual spring recoil assemblies, and those aren't going to be compatible with the single, polymer recoil spring assemblies of Gen 1-3. G17s and G34s use full-length recoil spring assemblies, G47s, G49s, G19s, G45s all use G19-length RSAs. G26s would use even shorter assemblies. Trigger spring, slide stop spring are all the same from Gen 1-4, Gen 5 use different ones. Same thing with the trigger housing.

Basically, there's a bunch of changes made to Gen 5 guns, and so I wouldn't expect many parts for Gen 1-4 guns to work in Gen 5s, other than magazines, and super minor shit like the slide takedown/spring and mag catch spring.
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>>61922031
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>>61922204
Go away transposter
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>>61923675
The short frame version of the G20 became the stock size of the gun with no backstrap in Gens 4 and 5, so I'd say "most" adult males probably liked/preferred the SF.
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>>61922437
>gun with commie star
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>>61922770
Overpenetration is not a concern.
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>>61923252
10 shot 22 mag the size of a g40
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>>61923688
A beretra px4 9mm is about the same width. And a beretta 92 9mm is wider than a glock 20/29/40 gen 5, or earlier gennSF.
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>>61923675
>>61923688
>>61923716
>>61923753

The grip is indeed fairly comfy thanks to the rear circumference being shorter, but that's not why I got it. The real reason I got the 20SF in particular is because I wanted a large bore semi that can do easy caliber swaps without 1911-tier hand fitting, and the 20SF was the only thing the local gun store has in stock that fits that criteria. Long story short my shitty state's introducing more gun restrictions next month and gun store shelves are bare as a result. so my choices were/are very limited.

tl;dr: I got it less for the grip and more because my state is run by retarded gun grabbers with an agenda.
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>>61923787
This man big boy loads .460 Rowland when in bear country.
I read that full size .45 USPs are good for this type of carry as well.
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>>61923835

Remember I can't buy ammo online, and I don't have a reloading setup. so anything uncommon is a no go. 10mm is somewhat cheaper and much more available than .45 ACP in my area because of decrepit ancient boomers hoovering up all of the .45 supply (they don't work so they can camp out in front of the gun stores and empty out their inventory at opening on restock day), so I went with 10mm, which has more energy anyways. Besides, I can always buy a Glock 21 slide assembly for my 20SF to shoot .45 ACP once the last of the boomers croaks and .45 becomes available again.

That said, I can score Underwood and Hornady 10mm defensive loads fairly easily from the local stores, albeit at fairly high per-round prices. Any suggestions on those?
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>>61923835
USPs are shit, and 460 Rowland almost never feeds in anything.
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Well copers, why is that?
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>>61924055
idk, gb2Reddit and find out
personally I'm an adult and don't give a shit if my gun sounds like a Nerf gun in dry fire and has a trigger like one, too
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>>61924055
his canik made a louder noise because something broke when he dry fired his turkshit
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>>61923941
*USPs are the shit, sorry typo
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>>61922006
>try again
G26 vs G43 for CC please, glock knowers ?
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>>61924288
26 is more versatile, but a little fatter.
That's the end of it, I have a 26 and I CC it a lot even in the pocket.
Realistically I doubt the extra thickness will matter much, and you can grab a g17 mag for a reload
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>>61922734
>how many shots? why do you always either A. not report the actual distance and/or use some misleading target B. don't report number of shots fired or C. your firing cadence. For all I know you shot 2-3 shots in the edge targets, and ~20 yards is not the same as 25 yards actually ranged.
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>>61922289
>>61922364
>>61923598
>Want L-A1
>Can't find anyone that even knows what one is nevermind supply one
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>>61924483
There are literally 2 on fuddbroker as I type this
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>>61923238
Only with Eezox desu, good boy taking care of his guns :3
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>>61922303
Yeah
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hk posting
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>>61924288
>>61924307
I own a 45 so mag compatibily is a real plus, but i'm afraid G26 would print a lot more, near G19. Can be a real legal problem in my non-US situation. Would you go 43 for absolute 0 printing ?
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I got the raider
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>>61924768
Someone say hk poastan?
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>>61922761
Yes, they don’t dropship afaik.
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>>61922124
No, I’ve found the grip to be a little smooth when drawing. I think I read it has gen 3 internals
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Well, /hg/, which are you?
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>tfw have to stop myself from buying one expensive gun so I can buy 2 guns and new grips.
Sometimes we have to make hard decisions in life.
>>61924867
nice
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>>61925125
In my jacket pocket, with my hand holding the gun and finger fucking the trigger the entire time I'm out and about.
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>>61925125
gooch carry
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>>61923480
That’s the optic humble marksman used as a hammer to drive in a nail through a 2x4 while attached to a slide, it retained zero though that.
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>>61922761
>(((bereli)))
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>>61922714
fiocchi opened up a plant where i live and the ammo has been very common and very cheap. i have a feeling that ammo quality has gone down over the years because aguila is obviously a budget brand and still has better qc than norma or federal.
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>>61924941
yes.
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>>61922761
They refuse to ship to Washington state for no fucking reason
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>>61924867
Nice
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>>61924867
I am seriously considering purchasing one. How do you like it?
t.m45a1 owner
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>>61925319
I've never had a site not immediately just take my payment within seconds.
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I've been wanting an optic-ready Beretta for a while but I can't decide if I want to just get a stock gts or if the extra cash for the LTT is worth it.
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>>61925338
The GTS is stupid, makes your disassembly much more complicated, and ruins holster compatibility. There is no tactical reason to have a fuck huge decocker lever operated by the thumb. The 92 slide mounted decocker (if decocker only) is much better. I’d rather have the slide safety F model than a GTS.

The extra squeeze is worth it for the LTT since you get back up irons and a lower mount Red dot. There is no reason to take the dot off so you don’t need the compromise that the Beretta cut has.

If you’re willing to buy used on gunbroker you can save some money. Not really any good deals except on a PX4 GSD w/ optic cut and Magwell for 1200. I would buy it if I didn’t already have one

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1053349778
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>>61925338
LTT work is fuckin pricey on top of the price of the optic you intend to install, depends on how cheap you can get a cut-able beretta for and if you're willing to wait the 4-8 weeks for them to do the work.
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>>61924867
That's dope af.
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>>61925364
Who the fuck was asking for the GTS?
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>>61925365
While it is expensive, I think it’s understandable when it’s a full package
>cut =100 dollars
>cerakote = 80 dollars
>replacement of slide internals = 60 dollars
>new decocker lever = 45
> iron sights and plate installed = 100
Makes sense to me this way, how I justify letting Ernest molest my guns
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>>61925435
I ain't talking shit, I got a ltt cut on my handgun and I couldn't be happier with it. the cut for a dot is a lot of work, and they do it well, so the price stands to reason. You'd be right to side-eye someone if they offer to do all that for cheap.
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>>61925435
Will he lower the price if I don't want some of that stuff?
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>>61925451
There’s nothing that can be removed except maybe the Cerakote, you need a replacement of slide internals since LTT had to redesign a few parts, you need a new decocker lever since it has to be modified to work. Beretta told him it was impossible to mount an optic the way he did, he self taught solidworks and designed everything himself
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>>61925471
I sincerely hope he modeled a few complicated things and learned how to not make the CAD equivalent of spaghetti code before he designed anything for real.
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>>61922587
post ur rotted teeth
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>>61924795
country???height,weight???how long is your dong???
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>>61924867
Tisas bro's rise
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>>61925508
vax status??
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Laid waste to some targets with the new suppressor today. Even with the sights slightly obscured, it was clean
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>>61925597

Around seven yards, give or take. The range does very little to mark actual distances but I knew it was further than 5 and fewer than 10
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>>61925597
what brand of can is that?
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>>61925139
>still need $70 clone correct miltac grips
it hurts
>>61925334
It's my first 1911 so don't have a lot to compare. Only other 1911 I've even shot was a llama many years ago. For $500 I am pretty impressed, parts fitment seems good, machining is good, general fit and finish is nice. Shoots nice. Put 100 rounds through it yesterday with a single issue - what I believe is called a "return to battery failure", slide didn't full return to battery on one round (cartridge was in the barrel but the slide was about a 1/4" from fully closed). Little tap on the back and it kept going. I normally shoot with thumbs forward and found myself accidentally engaging the safety a couple times so that may be part of it. Usually I shoot a glonk so my grip was a bit high, where putting my support hand where I normally do forced my main hand thumb up enough to engage the safety occasionally. Switched to tucking my main thumb under the support instead and didn't have any more issues.
As far as clone correctness it's pretty close with a few differences just from what I can tell in pics - scallop about the pic rail is slightly different, the cocking serrations are slightly different spacing, grips are a slightly different color and have a straight cut around the back strap pin instead of curved, the back strap pin, mag release screw head, and extractor head are black instead of fde.
>>61925538
The included hard case and extra mag is pretty cool. How's yours shoot?
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>>61925657
You need a bigger safety. The M45 or w/e has a beefier safety than the Raider
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>>61925631

Rugged Obsidian 9
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>>61925691
Seen it before, very nice looking can.
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Just got this at a gunshow for $250. What am I in for?
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>>61925657
I've never shot another 1911 in 45 but mine which is the duty with the better sights and such is dead on the few times I've taken it to the range. I have a chippa in 22 for shits and giggles those are the only 11s I plan on having
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>>61925721
Your skin will slowly blacken and you will smack your lips and mumble as you gain an insatiable, vampiric craving for crack
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>>61925721
first time I ever seen a Lorcin. that's neat. Like a hipster HiPoint.
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>>61925721
This is a joke, right? That's a $50-$75 gun all day. The L9 is a cast Zamak Saturday-Night-Special Ring-of-Fire murder guns that were originally sold brand-new through pawn shops instead of gun stores. If the grip safety isn't broken the manual one probably is. The firing pins like to break and get stuck forward in the soft slide, which makes it go full-auto, which would be much more concerning if it could make it through a whole mag without jamming. Despite the multiple safeties, they (like all Lorcin firearms) are known to not be drop safe, accidental discharges are common. They're known to crack the slides, and often have the front half of the slide break off while firing. People break the frames trying to remove the slide.

If you actually paid $250 for a Lorcin L9 and this isn't just a joke, I am very, very sorry you overpaid by such a HUGE margin for your paperweight.
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>>61925778
Aw I forgot my image
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>>61925812
>80 bucks
wouldn't fire that with a hand I care about. Damn.
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Can you guys take your retard back?
>>>/pol/471867571
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>>61925817
I value my fingers and eyes, so I'd not shoot a Lorcin. If you want a Ring of Fire shitbanger buy a Jimenez or JA Industries JA-380 or JA-32, or a Phoenix Arms HP22A, they can be good fun at the range but should be avoided like the plague for self defense.
Don't buy Raven, Davis, Lorcin, Sundance, Jennings, Bryco, or Jimenez/JAI 9mm if you intend to actually shoot it.
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>>61925721
Why would you do this?
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>>61925706

One downside so far, the sights are obscured but nothing I can't work around
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>>61925885
That's rough but workable. idk if it's worth getting tall sights just to peek around the suppressor.
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>>61922558
nice looking 2011 brother
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>>61925778
Nah I am joking, things a huge piece of shit.
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>>61925909

Not the worst tbqhwyf
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>>61925852
We hate CZ here mostly
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Acquired yesterday.
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>>61926027
Based
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>>61926027
>Turkish Canadians
Good job, anon.
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>>61925955
You had me worried there.
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>>61926043
Oh nonono canikbros
You don't want a terrorist gun do you?
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>>61926027
Another german fren :3 Make sure to feed them domestic Coomoil for XP bonus, clean with Döber sauce and garlic water
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>>61923496
they make clear matte spray finishes. You could try that. I did it on a p80 frame I spray painted with glow in the dark paint to protect the paint and cut down on glare. Its actually working pretty well after idk 9 months or so.
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>>61925856
i have one of the super late ja industries shitbangers and its really really not very good. the firing pin broke on it and i haven't even fired it. the hp22 kicks ass though, phoenix actually designed a neat gun
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what fresh hell has sig created now?
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>>61925657
Do you have it in 9mm? I'll probably get that version to see how it goes but I've never shot a non-.45 1911.
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>>61926154
>hammer
2011 that takes p320 mags?
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>>61926154
Your balls will never be the same
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>>61926141
>i have one of the super late ja industries shitbangers
>broke and i haven't even fired it
This is what one of the good Zamak Ring-of-Fire Shitbangers looks like, now imagine the bad ones.
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>>61926154
I thought it was a condom ad. I hopes it's condoms that randomly develop holes in them while they're still in the foil.
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>>61926180
Legion condoms, for when you need only the best at those foreign ports
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>>61926154
now neither of us will be virgins!
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>>61926163
>>61926154
That looks like an X-Five with an optic and a compensator. But they already make X-Fives in the US so idk and idc
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>>61926163
P210 Leejun?
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>>61926017
>we
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>>61926343
>wuz
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>>61923674
I like how that glock looks.
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>>61923745
Fuck off schizo! I’m not a tranny!
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How many rounds can a .22lr handgun go through before it becomes so dirty that it starts having malfunctions? Assuming I’m using good ammo like CCI standards or minimags. I’m wanting to buy a Mark IV and am curious. When I shoot my .22lr bolt action or 10/22 I will go though a couple hundred rounds at least per range trip. Are .22lr handguns more susceptible to malfunctions induced by fouling? Am I going to have to bring cleaning supplies with me whenever I go shoot it if I’m planning on shooting 400+ rounds?
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>>61926531
With my 617 I run a gun Q-tip through the chambers every hundred rounds to keep the extraction from getting sticky, but I mostly shoot nasty bulk pack ammo so idk if that's applicable to automatics shooting the good stuff
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>>61926087
I mean, yeah
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>>61925746
Something about the 1911 was calling to me. Might try to find an actual colt 1911a1 style eventually but it'll probably be my only 1911 for a while. Got a bobcat for 22 plinking, but also wanted a full size metal frame gun I wouldn't feel bad about using. I have a bunch of 45 ammo laying around since I only had 1 other 45. A star Megastar which isn't particularly valuable, but it's in really nice condition and has sentimental value so I don't like taking it out as much.
>>61926162
Nice m45a1. Nah it's in 45. FYI - the finish is a bit different too, more of a flat FDE cerakote. I noticed in some stock photos of the raider it has a recessed crown around the end of the takedown lever pin, but in real life it's flat
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>>61926644
$2.3 ain't shit. The penalties against crooked corporations are never enough.
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>someone mentions sig
>one posters entire personality is spamming the same memes over and over again
>thread usually goes to shit afterwards
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>>61926644
>>61926649
Was that the infamous Sig P320?
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>>61926531
Varies, there's no generalization to be made. I've seen Taurus TX22s, Ruger MkI/MkII, High Standards, Buckmarks, and Woodsmans that purportedly go thousands of rounds without cleaning, and I've no reason not to believe those folks. I've also seen examples of these same guns that start acting up after only a few hundred rounds.
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>>61926644
Oh is this for the ND that their one pistol was doing?
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>>61926649
I was behind a cop in a gas station the other day and had a flash back to this video when he dropped his card and had to bend down to pick it up. Luckily I already knew it was a glock 17 as I had already identified his holster and gone over the procedure necessary to retrieve said weapon in my head, just in case I needed to warn him if I saw someone trying it.
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>>61926688
>and gone over the procedure necessary to retrieve said weapon in my head
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>>61926649
>My bad, I forgot to turn my blaster's safety on
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Intrusive thoughts return to /hg/ lol
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>>61926644
Anon, you don't understand!
>It was actually the cop's fault!
>It was actually the holster's fault!
>It was actually the tourniquet!
>We did a upgrade program and told almost nobody about it!
>Juries are retards!
>Our gun isn't an unsafe turd!
Sig and siggers (who shill for free) will cope.
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Tfw I shoot my Glock way better than my Beretta
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>>61926154
Oh boy, can't wait for the next beta test
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>>61926154
I don't know but I'll probably buy a CZ instead
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>>61926644
complaint
https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/cd/1a/ab7938ef4190827c4438b166180b/lang-georgia-complaint.pdf

jury finding
https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/d2/08/91077caf47eeadd4481e822cbb12/jury-finding.pdf
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>>61926644
lel, I browse Ben’s IG, too
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>>61926705
welcom back
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>>61926766
seems kinda rarted. im always skeptical of 'my gun fired on its own!' stories.
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>>61926766
>The boom of the weapon firing had both his wife and son screaming
Why do they have to make everything so fucking gay?
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>>61926766
Robert Zimmerman (plaintiff's attorney) has represented 320 victims in the past but this is the 1st win.
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>>61926798
sell the 'emotional distress' for cash, act like a victim for cash, ect al.
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>>61926742
is that because you have more trigger time with your glock?
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>>61926853
well yeah, I've shot thousands of rounds through various glocks, mostly 17, 19, and 41. I had an M9A4 previously that I didn't much care for and sold. I was shooting the beretta terribly. I've probably put just over 100 rounds through it though. Glock just feels really natural and even the single action on the Beretta doesn't seem to help.
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I hope I get to see a black and silver px4 today, they're so cool and unique!
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>>61926874
They are. There is only 4 of them on gunbroker right now, which is the most there ever been at once.
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>>61926705
don't have a cow man
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>>61922060
I wonder what they have in the skunkworks super secret R&D lab
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>>61926943
a stallion with two dicks
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>>61926943
literally just a fat dude with boxes of all of their frames and slides that puts random shit from each box together all day
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>>61926531
It depends on the gun. Not just the model but the specific gun.

My TX22 is at 2,400 rounds on one upper and 3,300 round on another upper with no cleaning only lube every 1,000 rounds, that's all on the same lower. Never cleaned a mag. I'm at 1,100 rounds on my Ounce with no cleaning. My TacSol PacLite (formerly a Ruger Mark III 22/45) can barely go 10 magazines before it starts jamming once or more per mag, it is EXTREMELY intolerant of dirty magazines, mags have to be cleaned internally after every range trip. My Walther P22 can go about 600 rounds unsuppressed or about 300 suppressed before the slide slows to failure. Then you've got your lemons; my CP33 was never reliable even straight out of the box, whether it's filthy or brand new it acts the same.

If I were to generalize I'd say ~300 rounds would be average filth tolerance for most of my .22s, but I shoot suppressed where I can and that makes it harder for them. You will have to shoot your specific gun a lot uncleaned to find its tolerance.
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>>61926766
>>61926828
Damn, jews at each other's throats? What next, peace in the Middle East?
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>>61922443
>124 gr +p > 124gr > 147gr > FMJ > 115gr HP
>Keep in mind projectile design is a massive factor

115gr expanding loads are pretty much the worst choice outside of actual meme shit with like two exceptions to that rule. Better off with range ammo that functions reliably for you.
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>>61926974
I would accept to be another week sick just to clean that gun!
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>>61926974
When do we get an Ounce™ burndown test?
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>>61926828
>320 victims
that is a lot of victims
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>>61926529
You're literally avatarfagging, you stickbone narcissistic tranny.
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>>61926974
why does this look AI generated?
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>>61923728
its pretty fat for a pocket pistol
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>>61927072
he did it the first time, it broke
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>>61924288
anon last thread has a massive argument about G43s why not just read it?
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I'm at the point now where I can't wait until the week and not the weekend. What a miserable existence. Pic related.
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>>61926766
>Did the defendant, Sig Sauer, Inc., supply a product that was defectively designed because it did not possess a tabbed trigger?
>YES
Wait a minute wait a minute. What the hell is going on here? What does a trigger dingus have to do with UNholstering a firearm? Or for that matter holstering a firearm? The dingus doesn't stop something from hitting the trigger, whether that's a piece of clothing, leather, or the plaintiff's FINGER. Whether it has an inertial safety is utterly irrelevant to the gun firing when being removed from a holster!
>Did the defendant, Sig Sauer, Inc. supply a product that was defective because adequate warnings about the possibility of unintended discharges were not provided?
>YES
>Did the absence of warnings cause harm to Plaintiff?
YES
This is a FIREARM. It shoots bullets, everyone who knows what a gun is knows this, including the plaintiff who is carrying a gun BECAUSE it's a gun. He wasn't unholstering a carrot carried for personal protection. These questions also are presuming that warnings are REQUIRED which they are not, and that their absence implies negligence of the manufacturer for not telling the consoomer the sky is blue. That is INSANE regardless of the specifics of this case.

I know these jurors are obviously noguns and sheeple but how is there a complete lack of logic? Were Sig's attorneys THAT incompetent? Did the judge fail to give proper instructions? These jurors are out of their fucking minds.

And that's not even touching on the ambulance chasing nature of this case with a jewish lawyer who has pursued multiple P320 cases and the appeal to emotion that "The boom of the weapon had his wife and son screaming" as if that's in any way relevant. Regardless of what you think of Sig, or the details of this case, or the politics of law, that finding is absolutely batshit.
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>>61927118
Holy shit because of this fucking cunt every one of our guns are going to be marked in giant red letters
>THIS CAN GO SHOOT BULLETS IT IS BIG DANGER
Sig didn't even get hit for the striker flaw, they just got hit because there's no manual safety or trigger safety blade lmao.
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>>61927118
A dingus only makes it drop safe, it doesn't do a thing if the trigger is pulled.
>Did the absence of adequate warnings
wat, the plaintiff claimed he had "hundreds of hours behind the trigger"
Warnings at that point wouldn't have altered anything.

Something's cursed with the P320 but really don't need more lawyerspeak on the frames of pistols.
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>>61927135
This is going to be hilarious
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>>61927118
> Forces SIG to put lawyer text on every gun like Beretta

Dare I say BASED?
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WTS Vintage P365XL without the ugly legalese boilerplate new ones have
$3500 no lowballers I know what I got
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>>61927168
>Something's cursed with the P320 but really don't need more lawyerspeak on the frames of pistols.
I still think it's probably a flawed sear design that lets the gun fire when jostled- the trigger doesn't even need to be pulled.
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>>61927118
I hate Sig but kind of agree the ruling doesn't make sense. I think the case might be rigged. The 'lack of trigger safety' design flaw (Glock dingus?) is the first clue. The 2nd clue is this is Sig's 1st loss.
I suspect TPTB's new tactic to disarm the US (without making it totally obvious to normies) is to kill gun manufacturers by suing them for 'faulty' designs like they are right now with Glock's 'ability to accept switches.'
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>>61927194
Have we figured out why it only happens with cops?
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>>61927246
low IQ
t. expert witness
that'll be forty thousand dollars
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>>61926853
Well and the 92 trigger is dogshit and the grip is fatter than your mom's dildo.
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>>61927246
Reminder they textured the tip of the guide rod
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>>61927072
Bro that would take FOREVER lol you have to load one round at a time, 10 to a mag. It takes 30 seconds to speed-load and fire 10 rounds. Consider it an ongoing burndown lol

>>61927087
It's like an MC Escher painting, nothing makes any sense, lines come from nowhere and go to nowhere which looks like an AI got confused with recursive detail

>>61927035
But then I'll never know its limit!

>>61927246
Or why nobody's shown publicly that one of the purported self-firing units can have its flaw demonstrated? They all seem to get swept under the rug without testing.
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>>61927246
It's happened to civillians, but once the m19 won the military trials a bunch of police departments switched over to the 320 with no testing, no waiting, etc. And far more police have and carry them than civillians.
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>>61927270
That picture is disgusting, Burt. Good job.
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>>61927246
>Have we figured out why it only happens with cops?
cops carry guns more often are usually more complacent and negligent
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>>61925508
westerneuro, tall, not too fat, massive, unvaxxed
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> Introducing the new 2025 320 LEH GUN MODEL
> All new models include super special coin and have a QR code lazered into the frame for quick access to our SIG CERT ER and Lawyer team for when you ND yourself
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HK sisters, I shotted again today.
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>>61927246
God has a sense of humor.
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>>61927270
>But then I'll never know its limit!
I hope you find it within 2 months to use my autismn cleaner (not healer) on that autism firearm
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>>61927270
>can have its flaw demonstrated
Is this not the unit that has the drop issue which has been demonstrated?
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>>61927083
I literally admit I’m a man, and dislike it when people say otherwise, so I can’t be a troon. Sneed schizo.
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>>61927735
>I admit I'm a man
Claim*
Even though you are clearly biologically female.
Join the 41%
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>>61926766
Some sigger shot themselves in the leg recently at a range near me. Can't really blame the gun company for that one, apparently the guy had been warned with the way he was training. Mind you, the lack of a trigger safety probably didn't help. That's why I don't carry striker slop without a safety.

>>61927735
Why do you keep coming back here? After you stopped posting for a while all the tranny troll posts stopped here. Only when you returned did it start again.

>>61927382
It's beyond funny to me they lost that lawsuit, brutal it vindicates Beretta for lawyer text on their guns.
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>>61927735
>he carries non-dropsafe ancient gun in a clipless nylon condom tucked into a fashion belt
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>>61927544
I will not use it on that gun lol not until it stops working

>>61927551
afaik there is NO unit where the flaw has been demonstrated, certainly not in any of these court cases. Not that I'm aware of, do you know of one?
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>burt defending sig again
He's learned nothing from the Danielle saga
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>>61927825
That's why I'm asking about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6N15rzP-AA
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>>61927846
I'm sorry, my brother is a fucking retard.
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>>61927873
Too bad you will be killed by SIGDIE living on in the arm of a homo before Burt dies of complications from obesity.
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if you just had the upper parts of a desert eagle lying around you can now 3d print a lower receiver for it
https://x.com/pembie000ind/status/1802424667015123402
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>>61927960
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>>61927960
Pembleton is a mad man. Also you still need rails and shit. Good luck. Black guy in NYC learned the hard way.
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>>61927968
Now this is cyberpunk
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>>61924483
I’m not even into long boys but I want one too. Hardly ever see.

>>61927246
Have you worked in LE? Let’s just say I wore my vest to range day.

>>61927317
I’ve seen cops who couldn’t clear a different brand pistol that operated the same as the one they were issued.
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>>61927846
If it ever does come out that Sigs were going off in the holster, we've gotta push Burt out of this general. Until then, it's just silly shitposting about sig.
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>>61927846
It's okay that you can't read, since you won't be able to read the warning labels coming to every gun near you as a result of that court case.

>>61927864
That video is 6 years old. I'm not gonna watch 30 minutes of potentially out of date into but maybe you can tell me if he's talking about the drop safety that was fixed on all guns produced after 2017. It seems like he is because the trigger on that gun is the old heavy "fat" style. The new drop safe triggers are thinner.

If that's the case and he's talking about the 2017 drop safety thing, that is not this court case or any of the more recent "holster firing" cases either, it's an entirely separate issue that was solved
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If you're gonna get a 1911, is there any particular company to look into/look out for?
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Burt must go
Burt must go
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>>61928015
Uh anon. They ARE going off in holsters. There are videos of it. I'm not denying that there are at least 3 which have done it. The contention is about NINETY+ of them having done it, instead of being negligently discharged by donut fingers as has been police MO for as long as police have had firearms. And also the fact that nobody has yet showed HOW they are firing so that Sig can fix them. As of now it's still a mystery, unless you know different?
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>>61928047
Yeah I watched it and it's just a repeat of the sigs not being dropsafe pre-fix. Siggers got way too cocky with the no dingus and no lawyer text.

>>61928071
I thought you were also denying that those were just due to the P320 itself and more so how they were being holstered?

>>61928083
I see. Well, I think people will still see you as having completely defended them even with that nuance.
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>>61928063
There’s too many to list. Any companies you’re looking at in particular?
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>>61928103
Kimber
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>>61927857
That's too lewd for me.
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>>61928103
Not particularly, got a family member starting to consider em and I figured I'd do some research. I think he's looking for something more "traditional" to the original design and not the modernized stuff
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>>61928105
Kimbers are okay, they’re decidedly middle of the road. It’s going to be a forged slide and frame, with largely MIM small parts from third party suppliers to keep the price down, and is made in America. This is essentially the same exact formula as Springfield (forged slide/frame in America by Springfield, MIM small parts made in places unknown). For the money, I’d probably lean towards Springfield over Kimber, as Kimber has had some QC issues over the years (so has Springfield, but at a lower rate I’d wager).

If you’re particularly price-sensitive, I’d look at Tisas for a decent gun for cheaper than the Kimber. If you’re not so price-sensitive, I’d look at Dan Wesson, which will give you a better, semi-custom gun (but will cost more than the Kimber).
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>>61928047
That video is the drop safety. The first 10 minutes is trying to get the sig to fire by hitting it with a plastic mallet. The rest of the video is other handguns. So you're saying that that is fixed and this is a completely different issue but it is the same model. Just clarifying.
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>>61928091
>I thought you were also denying that those were just due to the P320 itself and more so how they were being holstered?
I don't understand your wording here but all I've maintained is that the majority of all "unintended discharges" are NDs, that's a fact, ESPECIALLY from cops. With tons of holsterings sometimes it goes wrong, drawstring gets in the holster, holster damage, shirt tip caught on trigger, dropped the gun and tried to catch it, all kinds of reasons. Most of the time cops blame anything but themselves, either out of ego or self preservation. Some tiny (and I mean REALLY tiny) number of them are from some kind of tolerance problem in post-2017 P320s. Cops heard about this and/or the pre-2017 drop safety failures (that also DID happen) and are trying to lump their NDs in with them for bonus bux or to save face.

I don't care how people see me, dummies are going to be dummies. I simply don't believe hype until I see evidence, like these videos. Some bonehead 17 year old saying something anonymously on the internet doesn't make it true.

But all of that is completely separate from the court case being discussed in this thread where the jurors are blatantly ignoring reality and calling a lack of warning labels a liability and saying the lack of an inertial safety somehow made it possible for a gun to fire. Whether the trigger was touched is irrelevant (Trigger touched? Inertial safety disengaged. Trigger not touched? inertial safety bypassed anyway), whether the gun fired itself is irrelevant (Gun fires without being touched? Inertial safety would have done nothing. Gun fires when touched? Inertial safety would have done nothing.), the inertial safety had NOTHING to do with it. But the jurors found guilt based on the lack of an inertial safety because the gun fired while the guy was unholstering it, NOT because the gun "fired itself." That is WRONG and you should be calling it WRONG.
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>>61928139
Correct, Sig did not change any nomenclature or denote the change any way, the only way to know is either to look at the size of the trigger or look under the back of the slide to see if it has the new cutout. The model numbers, names, version numbers, all that stayed the same, but the change was made in 2017 so that issue is done and gone (except for the models sold before then which have not been sent in for """upgrade""" of which I'm sure there are quite a few)
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>>61928128
kek

>>61928161
>I simply don't believe hype until I see evidence, like these videos.
idk man there were 2 youtubers with keyholing DDH9s

>But all of that is completely separate from the court case being discussed in this thread
yep, people are retarded
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>>61928189
I don't recall saying those two guys were lying (or one guy or however many). I just didn't believe it was a widespread problem because
1: The company had admitted no fault yet (such as a recall which Taurus and Ruger do quickly and publicly, DD took a little longer)
2: There weren't dozens of forum posts of people saying theirs did the same thing like there were of the Hudson H9 when people expressed common problems frequently

Those two things came later, and when it did, I came to the conclusion that it was happening. People are judging my initial opinion, ignoring time frame of evidence and pretending I'm still denying it
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>>61927783
I refuse to believe you’re serious. I don’t look female at all. You’re just saying this to be annoying.
>>61927802
It’s held securely, and there’s a grip safety so the soft body won’t cause any ADs
>>61927788
This place was full of shit flinging and people accusing other people of being me when I came back so clearly it’s shit with or without
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>>61928170
Oh I see the difference there it is pretty apparent.
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>>61927382
>Please connect your sig firearm to the internet, scan the QR code and create your SigArmy account. Once you have accepted the user license agreement your firearm will be activated for use
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>>61928215
>I don't recall saying those two guys were lying
You were saying it was just one guy and he might have been using shitty ammo or some other fat faggot cope you lying gay fat faggot
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>>61928106
Tactical advantage of onions pilling your twinks?
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>>61928235
I probably was because that's a logical thing to say when one guy has one problem. When he got a SECOND barrel back that did the same thing I changed my opinion. Here again you are ignoring time frame of evidence to force your narrative and now it reeks of desperation with the addition of ad hominem
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>>61927735
stop baiting and post your voice vocaroo.com
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>>61928128
fucking lmao
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>>61928259
>"Y-youre desperate," says increasingly desperate man trying to cope with how hard he got exposed defending some shit meme gun.
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>>61927523
hell yes good shot fellow hkister
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>>61928083
drops bag with a precooked trigger and it goes off, nothing noteworthy here
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>>61928234
>How to make a gay future even gayer
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>>61928287
iirc that one was on her hip, a different one it was in a gym bag with a bunch of loose laundry.

idk about you but even slamming a bag of bricks into a gun holstered on my hip it shouldn't go off.
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idk guys, female cops tend to be exceedingly competent with handguns, we should probably take her at her word 100%
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>>61928303
Did not know it was on her hip here, for the bag discharges harder to convince me especially with light bearing holster creating room for a piece of string or pen to wiggle its way near the trigger
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There are so many companies making precocked striker fired handguns with no manual safety yet only Sig has these problems
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>>61928262
I almost did but my friends said it was a bad idea.
I’ll make an antique gun gunsmithing and use YouTube after I graduate tho
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>>61928354
You haven't heard of Glock Leg anon?
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Bottom NP3 slide
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>>61928371
Record yourself saying "rubber baby buggy bumpers"
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>>61928380
What about Ruger-face?
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>>61928259
that guy isn't me, I think you fostered some bad will with that danielle moment

>>61928276
yeah it feels like walking back statements months later to save face
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>>61928387
Kerr seems like a stone cold badass
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>>61928382
I don’t know what that means so nope. I’ll link my YouTube when it comes out and start with something useful like my nagant trigger mod.
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>>61928380
Is that a trap remix of stanky leg?
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>>61928394
He dropped a revolver that shot his friend in the face, who then took 8 days to die. Pretty badass.
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>>61928371
Just say "im a real boy, fuck sig sauer" and end this garbage topic forever. Weak excuse: audio file bad idea, youtube video good idea
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>>61928412
Source
>>61928421
I’m not gonna say something unseemly. It should be obvious I’m male and if not wait for my YouTube. Idk how this rumor even got started.
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The DD H9 thing was really sickening because Burt was being really unmanly about it and now he's trying to downplay it like he graciously admitted defeat
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>revolver troon could end this all for good by just posting an audio file
>instead teases his onlyfans so you can pay to see his supple breasts and loose anus
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>>61928438
Yawn another bullshit excuse ""unseemly""
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>>61928453
>wants an antique guns YouTube to be OF
So you admit I’m male?
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How is Sig selling so many handguns yet I almost everyone I know carries a glock? I smell some jewish trickery afoot.
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>>61928277
Checked, baste, and quietpilled. Luv shooting muh suppressed MP5 clone and pretending I'm all my favorite video games (:
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>>61928484
it's like i'm actually mr. soap from the modern warfare!
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>>61928481
They count law enforcement and military sales as sales. They also invest heavily in shilling it at gun stores so gun store faggots try so hard to sling XMACROs and whatever at noguns noobs. Really disgusting
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>>61928493
is it an easy sell on an ignorant buyer? I'd imagine so, given that it's been adopted by the military and that pedigree can be bandied about to no end, I'm sure.
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>>61928493
I do honestly see a lot of people buying Sigs though. Quite a lot of P22x guns and LEEJUN

>>61928502
Maybe a special sig pride thread?
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>>61928499
>dude this is the highest selling gun. it's fucking MODULAR it's like having two guns, or, like, infinity guns, bro. the military uses it. fuckimg heroes and shit, it's combat tested!
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>>61928438
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>>61928519
>fuckin a bro I'll buy two one for each hand eh? No I don't need ammo I'm just going to dry fire them all around the house like I'm a videogame.
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>>61928502
Nope.

>>61928514
>>61928514
>>61928514
>>61928514
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>>61928499
>>61928513
From what I hear locally sales of P320s and 365s are drying up. People are hesitant because the drop safety is getting memed and they're realizing they have alternatives.
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>>61928391
>>61928440
The general was going buck wild over the youtube guy at the time, reveling over the opportunity to shit on and laugh at a cool new product I had hope for, but were doing so before the evidence had come forth that keyholing was widespread. So I was being obnoxious in turn which is out of character and I am sorry for that
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61213481/#61216285
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61213481/#61216461

I stopped after the "upgrade" was announced
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>>61928491
Yay! :>>>
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>>61928467
>>61928453
>>61928421
Also this is obviously not an admission. I just know things being a faggot but asking for voice is a useless way to rule out FtM: male voice is something people easily get from testosterone. Anyone who’s used male hormones could pass your test.
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>>61928535
That was actually a very kind and genuine apology. It's really a shame that retards and trolls won't see that, but major Burt W yet again.
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>>61928547
It's funny because MtF don't get it from higher estrogen, they just sound like they're trying too hard. Either way it would be cool to hear your voice even if anons don't believe you.
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>>61928535
Its done so lets move on. Now apologize for Sig.
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>3 Berretta OPs in a row
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>>61928564
I think they need voice surgery to fix voice. Not that it’s relevant since I’m male and like being a man.
I was told not to upload to vocaroo anyways and your test is almost worthless since anyone who’s used or experience a year or two of testosterone can pass.
I’ll do a YouTube
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>>61928502
yikes her face gets manlier when she looks at the camera
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>>61928600
This is a Berettachad board.
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>>61924768
Did somebody say HK?
Competition tomorrow, should be good fun



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