Where the money ran out edition.Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik>>61936891
Ya beat me to it
>>61942150>buying a 2000 dollar handgun just to shoot 9mm out of it unreliably
Rev Moon gang check in >>61942150That’s sexy.
>>61942150I'm still mad the FKBUS never took off. All it needed was cowitness irons, a threaded barrel, an ambi safety option, a magwell for people not planning on using the stock...
>>61942150anons, im rather excited for muh sp1. Hopefully I will have it by the end of the week
>>61942150why them bullets red though
>>61941972>Personally I think it's just luck of design. It's one of the earliest plastic pistol designs, they never put in the time to shoot 100,000 rounds, look for failures, iterate, and repeat until it was able to do 200,000 etc. It was just a cosmic coincidence the first time out, just like Glock. I don't think you can intentionally design a pistol to be that long lasting, just like you can't design a pistol to have less recoil, it just happens.Not sure I agree 100%, but I hadn't considered that. While I'm not totally certain which design/analysis tools are being used by companies like HK, I do know that fatigue analysis methodology has been surprisingly good for a while now. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit here, but also HK was started by former Mauser guys, so maybe there's some kind of trade wisdom they're taking advantage of. Then again, the company I work for did recently have a part that far exceeded its predicted life (based on test and analytical methods), so I wouldn't be surprised if there was a little bit of luck or non-taken-credit-for benefits at play. Thanks Burt, always interesting.
>>61942201Red makes em go faster
>>61942198Looks sleek.
>>61942201"why them bullets red though"god you make me want to puke
>>61942201It's a bullet called "red rocket," look it up newfag
>>61942214bruh was just axin a question doe
>>61942214sneed>>61942207that's badass. I should start painting my bullets.
>>61942233God I love knurling on suppressors
>>61942181It's reliable with Winchester Service Grade but that's the only load so far lol>>61942193I've been hounding them since day 1 for the magwell and the other secret parts they never announced or listed, sad. Now FKBUS is completely gone, Italian Firearms Group is their importer. And they are responsive and knowledgeable but they heebed the prices pretty bad.>>61942198Me too anon, jelly>>61942201Teflon coated cop killas
>I cAn SeE wHeRe ThE mOnEy RaN oUt 11!!2!¡¡!!1
>>61942246same. too bad this can is a fake for posturing and larping.
dumb tripfag
>>61942150finally got this project done. no it isn't a cut down barrel. I designed an adaptor and a process for welding it on with high precision, then had the threads cut after welding and magnetic particle inspection. the shop has the process down now and can do other barrels pretty cheap.
>>61942335>toeslmaobut srsly; that's fucking awesome.
>>61942335Cool stuff, anon!
>>61942335Looks photoshopped to me
>>61942335How does the added backpressure from the can affect the gas system?
>>61942375the cycling seems pretty much the same, but there is a titanic blast of gas when it unlocks. >>61942371I dunno, what kind of view do you want to see?
>>61942378What's it look like without the can on? Curious what your adapter setup is like
>>61942394>"it looks photoshopped">didn't even look close enough to see that it's FUCKING WELDED ONare you high?
>>61942394so there is a big chamfer in the adaptor that just gets filled with weld, they even bothered to kinda blend it. really I'm over the moon about the whole thing and hope people stop chopping up the long barrels now.
>>61942404I was the one who said it looked photo shopped lol, not that anon On my phone that barrel and can meeting doesn’t make sense, other than you know, it being welded.You’re telling me you didn’t take a video on you shooting a one of a kind suppressed deagle. Do that,
>>61942335>>61942415Very cool, I remember you were trying with bolts. Doesn't the weld mess with the hardness of the slide? Or is the entire slide de-tempered and re-tempered after welding?
>>61942428My bad, but I too would love to see this silenced magnum fired in video form.>>61942415lord that's sharp looking, very cool anon.
>>61942428>You’re telling me you didn’t take a video on you shooting a one of a kind suppressed deagle.Jesus Christ dude, calm down. https://files.catbox.moe/t4qcsh.mp4
>>61942459>sounds like a lasergunfucking AWESOME
>>61942335Neat, so it's perfectly aligned with the barrel bore?
>>61942459Nice. Now another thing I can’t have that I want because threaded barrels on pistols are assault weapons
>>61942435it would, but you can control for that by using the right weld fill, and welding it at temperature. if they screwed it up it would have been shown in the magnetic inspection. I've got hundreds of full-house 44mag to send through it to see how it goes. if it blows up my can I'll just send it in for a rebuild. oh, and if anyone wants to know, it's a 5/8-24 thread, but they can probably do smaller for a 357 barrel.
>>61942470yup, the trick was two-foldfirstly, welding the adaptor on with a shouldered pin inside the boresecondly, cut the threads AFTER the welding is done, with it centered on the bore.
>>61942150Burt you enormous faggot you made me click on this thread, where are the threaded barrels for the PSD
>>61942233
>>61942496That's sick, just saw the video after I posted so obviously it was aligned if you weren't striking the baffles too. Is this something you/your company is going to be offering? You mentioned the shop can repeat the process. Looks like it came out great.
>>61942518This was all pro-bono work. someone told me it couldn't be done, so I dusted off my engineering degrees and got it done. the shop I worked with says they can probably do it for around $200. I don't know if they are accepting orders for it yet. they might start selling threaded barrels soon too. we only finished it on Saturday.
>mfw not giving Glock guy a (you)
>>61942539
>>61942335I just bought a match grade threaded barrel for my CZ 97B. However, I am more interested in running a compensator than a can. Anyhow, nice yeet cannon ya gots there, Bub.
>>61942335wowww magnetic particle inspecion....
>>61942150Grimfon
>>61942335What shop? Would consider getting my .357 barrel done depending on the price.
>>61942654Send Recon Rifleworks in Jacksonville, FL an email.
>Ruger Mark IV Tactical price jumped $100 when I wasn't lookingYou guys think I can score one for $500 during Independence Day or am I going to have to bend over for Bill and Brandonomics
>>61942481Oh I thought MPI was for cracksAnyway very cool and I'm happy to see you got it done!>>61942510I had it made by https://www.eccomachine.net/It's possible Tornado would do one too though they haven't done any to my knowledge. I wouldn't recommend it for 9mm though, it reduces reliability even more than the 9mm setup already is (which is not good)https://tornadotechnologies.com/
>>61942745yeah no shit why did you think that was a good idea for 9mm, are you retarded?It might tame the recoil and blast for 7.5 FK, but uh hard primersis it strictly a primer issue or do I need to get some work done (harder hammer springs? polish the firing pin channel?)
>>61942790Because it's cool.idk it's probably to do with how long the barrel is already and the added weight adding more friction and weird directional forces or maybe even sapping energy with the booster spring. Who knows. There's no point to shooting the Service Grade ammo using a suppressor so I haven't tried that, and 147gr is already unreliable even without the suppressor so I wasn't expecting it to get better or somethingWait what are you even asking?
>>61942745>Oh I thought MPI was for cracksit is, if the heat treatment and weld filler material isn't good it will crack. If it doesn't it's a pretty good sign nothing has been fucked up.
Gonna shoot one of my 90s-themed guns today at the range. USP or P89?
Hey Burt there's another thing to add to your list of HK QC issues. Apparently CE date coded full-size USPs all have a blem on the lower right side of the frame. You can even see it in the images for the OD Green ones on the rooftop product page.
>>61942863the 9mm w/ suppressor doesn't work because it's already on the ragged ass edge for functioning (the bottom edge, 9mm doesn't have enough juice to cycle the mass) and you just added more mass to the systemtry taking the recoil spring out completely and seeing if it ejectsI'm talking about 7.5 FK, they have issues with not going bang when you pull the trigger and I was wondering if you had more info on that
>>61942714Just wait, anon, they'll go back down.
>>61942949Lol its June of an election year and the debates start this week, you should have stocked up already, I'd say 4th of July is everyone's last chance for decent sales before panic buying sets in.
>>61942293You pull to the left too often, amigo
>>61942415Bro wtf this a blue board
>>61942867Ah>>61942918LOL Wow that's nuts! You're right it's on a bunch of different models too wow. Somebody kludged a mold and nobody noticed. What are HK forums saying about this?>>61942923Well with most suppressed pistols the added backpressure makes things more violent not less, there's more energy coming back into the gun so I thought it was possible it might balance it out. That is either not the case with the 9mm PSD or the extra energy is hindering rather than helping, but in either case the threaded extension doesn't harm reliability without the suppressor so it's as-normal. Works great with Service GradeI hadn't heard of hard 7.5 primers sorry. 7.5 FK is too dear to shoot lol I have only shot like 10 rounds I think
>>61943117fucking retard poorfag, suppressors increase action energy in gas operated guns and decrease them in recoil operated gunsif you don't understand why then you're simply too stupid to trainanyway I figured out what the problem was: the 7.5 FK primers liquefied and flowed into the firing pin channel, blocking itlmao this gun is hilarious
>>61943262>Calling Burt, the man with the walk in closet full of handguns a poor faglmao
>>61943117People seem at least a little salty. I have one of the impacted guns but I hadn't noticed until someone else pointed it out. Doesn't impact my grip or anything, just looks ... unfortunate. I don't plan on reselling (only buy) so I don't really care but that might also be 10-15% cope
>>61943262i guess that's why suppressed handguns beat themselves to death and manufacturers have warnings about suppressors because they decrease action energy. fucking nocans.
>>61942557Keep us posted anon
>>61943290poor in mind and poor in spiritalso he's too cheap to actually shoot his big handcannon with the big handcannon round, so he's poor in taste as wellAnyway fired primers are not supposed to look like this lol
>>61943262>the 7.5 FK primers liquefied and flowed into the firing pin channel, blocking ita match made in heaven. Im sure the hole size was picked to do that!
>>61943262>decrease them in recoil operated guns????That's not what my hands and face tell me but whateverI'm pretty sure brass is not liquifying anon it's being deformed by pressure because it's malleable
>>61943347yeah it's liquefying that's what I said
dry firing it knocked the plug loose
>>61942918Huh. I thought it was specifically for the jet funnel kit on some models.
>>61943353If I bend a piece of plastic really fast is it liquifying?
>>61943380if I shove my dick up your ass is it liquefying
if you guys don't stop being disrespectful to H&K I'm going to start screaming.
>>61943393HK is for faggots. Just look at this jalopy. Deplorable!
>>61943393>H&K>Heckin' Kompromise
>>61943402no, please!>>61943405that's not what it stands for and you know that!!!
anyway the brass primer is flowing like a liquid under immense pressures, which is called liquefactionthey liquefiedthey did not turn into a liquid, they simply behaved similarly to a liquid under extreme conditions, it's a materials science termhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefactioncheck it out
>>61943424thats not what liquefaction means you fucking dolt stop shitting up the thread
>>61943465this thread is already garbage, literally nothing I can do to it would make it worseclean out your tripfags first
>>61942335What's the overall length of it, suppressor and all?
>>6194348421" (53cm)
>>61943475You're already worse than the tripfags. But at least you aren't that 1903 anon.
>>61943393>>61943409It's ok anon, I like H&K too :)
>>61943498So well within conceal carry range
>>61943393More like Homo and Kuck
>>61943498The longer the gun, the closer to God
>>61942198Nice beretta I wonder what’s the parts compatibility
https://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Phoenix/phoenix.htmli found this website full of a ton of research on antique guns. but what stuck out at me was the "phoenix arms pistol" because that company still makes guns. the phoenix designed by Henri Rosier is an obscure 25 acp belgian pocket pistol from 1914. but uh... mechanically? it is practically the same as the one sold by the modern Phoenix Arms. There's no way they didn't look at this patent and copy the principles of operation>the barrel is held in place from below by a wedge-shaped plunger fitted into a matching cut in the base of the barrel. The plunger, tensioned by the recoil spring, is disengaged from the barrel by two checkered buttons, one on either side of the frame, allowing easy removal of the slide and barrelwhat the fuck lmao
>>61943526
What's the most hipster subcompact there is?
>>61943570Beretta PX4 subcompact
>>61943570ppkit fucking sucks but was hip in old movies and costs more than its worth.
>>61943570Px4 storm subcompact that reminds me of a fish
>>61943290Oooh, a walk in closet full of handguns, he must be some kind of multimillionaire, too bad it's full of shitters and is as morbidly obese as this one >>61943330
>>61943570G26
>>61943592This post reeks of insecurity God damn
Remember when dealing with trolls Report don't Reply.
>>61943549i know people don't really give a shit about $150 zinc 22 guns but this is probably the most ridiculous piece of occult firearms knowledge im ever going to find. im fucking blown away at this
>>61943598Are you morbidly obese, too?
>>61943549>>61943615I'm confused. These don't look anything alike, what are you nooticing anon? The Belgian one looks like it uses a vertical pluger like the Walther P99 to keep the barrel from sliding forward, but the ring of fire one is longitudinal from the front to keep the barrel from lifting vertically
>>61943592Do you have a small penis and desire gun control to feel safe?
>>61943588i always get GITS cyber punk vibes from that one
>>61943697No, do you? Do you even have guns? Didn't think so.
QRD on .30 Super Carry? Clerk at the LGS keeps shilling it and I've literally never heard of it before.
>>61943718It looks like a big gun they just made small
>>61943732sounds like 10mm for guys who talked too much shit about 10mm to buy one.
>>61943740It's literally smaller than 9mm
>>61943754>Less stopping powerMay as well carry 25ACP lmao
>>61943732Doomed caliber.They fucked up the marketing by comparing it to 9mm which is way more supported and which it's neck and neck with, instead of to .380 which it's the superior version of. Also only like 3 guns are chambered in it in like 5 years or whatever. It's over.
>>61943721well, then post 'em, tough guy.
>>61943732Meme caliber Only 3 guns are chambered in it, its weaker than 9mm, you can fit more of them in a magazine ~30% more rounds for the same size, its been out for years and nobody is clamoring to adopt it. In its attempt to replicate 9mm power in a smaller caliber it has a retardly high chamber pressure making it very hard to make a small gun chambered in it. So basically you have 9mms chambered in a more expensive less powerful round. Why not just buy a 9mm at that point? Which most people do. You cannot give .30 SC guns away, I remember distributors dumping .30 SC Shield Pluses at 350-400 dollars because no one wanted them.
>>61943770>I remember distributors dumping .30 SC Shield Pluses at 350-400 dollars because no one wanted them.local deal for one near me for $240. I'm sure I could talk him down to $200.
>>61943776You can get the FMJ ammo for ~40 cpr now, not the worst price in the world. .45 ACP/10mm price for .380 +P power
>>61943776>buying a gun in a caliber doomed to expensive, low availability ammo because it's cheapShigggy
>>61942557interested in future inspections of the weld once you got a decent round count through the setup, does the shop do xray testing?
>>61943785I was just at academy getting some ammo and noticed they had a pile of 30 SC on clearance for around that, a bit less I think. Somebody should have warned me about getting back into 45 ACP, I havent bought that kind of ammo in literally 5 or 6 years. Why the fuck does it cost more than .223 now?
>>61943769>frogposter>retarded>doesn't post his first>only got in on the discussion because he felt personally attacked due to also being morbidly obesengmi
>>61943764It's only been out two years bro just wait it's gonna be the next big thing just like 5.7 you'll see bro
>>61943570CZ p01 ir shadow compact.Or the CZ rami since it's out of production
>>61943718GITS SAC Batou at least has a g33
>>61943732More expensive and shittier than 9mm.Replicates 32 HR ballistics(which is not good)
>>61943588this probably is the correct answer, all of the fake internet gun guy prestige of owning a px4 with absolutely none of the actual benefits, plus its discontinued.
>>61943764>>61943770This FFS.Going after muh capacity instead of designing it for mouse gun use.There are enough tilting barrel/recoil operated mouseguns out there now that you can start pushing pressures but they pushed too hard instead gunning for the double stack micro 9mm crowd like p365 and g43x pushing pressures into the middle of 9mm performance.The market wants a 10+ round at the size and weight of a LCP2 or bodyguard, preferably with better performance than normal .380 or 9x18. But it doesn't need to be at 9mm +p tier either
>>61942633post welds?
>>61943851Also the use us a mouse gun even in 380 is snappy, now imagine 30 SC in something the weight of an LCP
>>61943886>Also the use us a mouse gun even in 380 is snappythis typically reported with straight blowback guns, The P238 is soft shooting from what I gather online.
>>61943002>I'd say 4th of July is everyone's last chance for decent sales before panic buying sets in.Fuck do we really have that little time left??
>>61942918>>61943117>>61943362HK sisters, I'm going to kill myself.
>>61943923My USP is in a plastic bag because of that nigger return spring
>>61943923trip on you fat fuck
>>61943905Orange Man's gonna get cucked by the hosts or Skibidi Biden's going to have a dementia moment and I think its going to set everyone off.
>>61943732Very good small gun caliber I have a shield plus chambered in it and it’s great Mark Serbu likes the caliber a lot which might be a pro or a conThey also talk about it very favorably on the Hornady podcast
>>61943923
>>61943832This is true, bitch's slide is thicker than a P01, but god do I still love it anyways.
>>61943900The p238 is also huge and heavy as far as .380s go.
>>61943588This looks like a gun from a 1950s sci fi comic. Just imagine if it was red and gold or something. I can see some slut in a bikini and a fishbowl helmet using this.
>>61943923>U5Pscammed
>have no interest in the p365>need to buy one for p365 flux raider UGH
>>61944038Go for a 20/20 instead.
>>61943975my favorite P01 poster (sorry burt), which do you carry more?
>>61944038Could I interest you in a PX4 instead?
>>61944029>>61944032The brownoid poor noguns reveal themselves. Pottery
>>61944050PX4 wallet raider when?
>>61944050thanks for erasing the serial on my slide, mr. langdon.
>>61944045I don't go anywhere late at night so I jacket carry both, but mainly the RAMI like 80% of the time lol. Thank ya :)
>>61944053The 2024 Ernest’s Blackout 2500 plus tip was not enough for you?
>>61944050already got one. but now im incapable of feeling safe unless i have a stocked pistol in my pants
>>61944054Keep quiet about it and you won't have any problems in the future okay?
>>61944085Fine, 2025 we’re making the PX4 Panty Raider
>>61944093best 350 I ever spent in my life, sir.
>range buddy just ordered a worked up DWX Compact from CZCReally looking forward to trying it out.On the other hand, it's probably gonna end with me buying a full size DWX or a fancy CZ of some kind.
>>61944117people still buy dan wesson?
Yes?
>>61944188Boomers do.
>>61943941Fucking hell I hate election years, but I hate panic buyers even more.>Panic Buyoomer>Doesn’t own guns, just panic buys ammo>Only buys ammo during election years, especially when Democrats say something scary >Right arm is massive from hauling around shit tons of ammo bought from gun stores >Is in 10k of debt from buying, doesn’t care >”STOCK UP NOW”>”[Insert Democrat] IS GONNA BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS, IT’S GONNA HAPPEN THIS TIME”>”AHHHH I’M PANIC BUUUYIIIINNGGG!”>the sole reason 9mm is gone from shelves by November
>>61944245What about FOMO buyers?>FOMO consoomer>Doesn't own anything that can't be had in 30 days or less, just FOMO buys guns and special meme ammo>Pretends to not want those things due to wait times>Suddenly the wait time for something is rumored as being very quick>Don't buy the rumors>"JUST RUMORS GUYS, I TOTALLY DON'T WANT THIS EITHER">More and more rumors start coming in>Suddenly, youtubers pick up on what's been said in forums for multiple weeks now>"OMG, I HAVE TO BUY THIS NOW">"LOOK GUYS YOU'RE TOTALLY NOT COOL IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS THING, BUY NOW LIKE ME">The sole reason why there's a run on suppressors right now, prices going up and nothing is available>Once the hype dies down lots of manufacturers are going to overproduce inventory and have to revert prices
>>61944245>>61944315I boughted 3,200 rounds of 9 milli last week am I going to WAGMI???
>>61943803they might have someone that does. I've got 350 rounds of full-house 44mag left on hand and plan on running it through over the next several months. the Banish 46 is also a fucking goddamned huge suppressor, so it's a probably a pretty good upper limit of total stress on the welds. my gut says it's going to be fine. it's got over a quarter inch of weld holding it on all the way around.
>>61942335>>61944342AIWB holster?
>>61944334NO YOU GOTTA BUY AT LEAST 10k, BIDEN WILL SEND THE FEDS TO YOUR DOOR DIDN’T YOU HEAR?
>>61944351I already asked Polnar:(who else does DE holsters?
>>61944369>>61944369Going to have to make it yourself. All you need is some kydex and a toaster oven.
>>61944315I don't know what FOMO means
>>61942918Both Lipsey Taupe CE Dated USPs I have don't have it, the 9T ODG on the other hand...
>>61944198why does the slidestop look like that??
>>61944400Fear Of Missing Out
>>61944427Like what? It is an extremely normal slidestop, EGW OEM.Yours appears to have the bottom milled to a concave profile, instead of convex.
>>61942198https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N32JelNHHnI
>>61944359OMFGGGGGGGGGGGG !!!!!
>>61944387I dunno if itll fit in a toaster oven. can I just use my regular oven?
>>61944531No you just need to heat up the kydex and then you pull it out, you have some working time before it cools down.you can do a fold over one piece holster or bolt two pieces togetheryou don't need to stick your gun in the oven.
>>61944440from your first image i had the impression it was completely rounded with no flattish surface on the top. MB bossman
Honestly thinking of just getting a Glock G17 and carrying it 24/7 365
>>61944761Okay.
I have a spare Glock 19 frame that I bought to stipple but had the common sense not to do it. I also sold my Roland special clone that I typically practice with as I hated the KKM. I’m considering buying a 47 OEM slide, porting it and making a sort of a 19L(C), or I guess a 49C. Is this a retarded use of a spare slide? Am I overlooking anything if all I am looking for is a.) 17 barrel length b.) 19 hand grip I am comfortable with c.) reliable compensation that isn’t aggressive enough to fuck with cycling?
>>61943570>>61943588 #That better have an optic (duty grade) and LTT enhancements for it to be up to snuff on Instagram. Also it is only effective if carried appendix.>>61943593I was psyched to buy mine in 2006 and thought it was super comfy when I didn’t want to carry my work G19.
>>61944771Omaha Outdoors compared the ported Glock and the KKM Comp setup. The ported was almost as effective. Its smaller and probably less expensive and more reliable too.
How often do you go to the range?
>>61943588This gun looks like every moment it lives is agony and upon creating it it's parents threw it on the rocks as in the Spartan rite, ashamed at its deformity, only for it to cling to life and slither into the darkness existing as a king among the depraved and retarded (ie. Taurus G2Cs and Keltec P11s)
>>61944860Twice a month
>>61944830Do you have a link to this I can read before I do this? I wanted to like my Roland but even across varying loads I couldn’t get it to cycle reliably and consistently.
>>61944860roughly weekly
>>61944860I aim for once a month. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Recently I went twice in one week because I got my gf to agree to go once. feelsgoodman
>>61944860Usually.
>>619448601 to 3 times a week.
>>61944894>I couldn’t get it to cycle reliably and consistentlyYes my friend had lots of issues with this too. https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/blog/2018-king-pistol-comps-glock-compensator-review/People have posted YT vids here comparing porting styles and they all seem to work well.
>>61944860About tree fiddy
>>619448601-2 times a weeksometimes I sleep outside with the local stray cats, the only beings that understand me, if I go on Saturday and then shoot again on Sunday, so 1-3 days a week
>>61944860weekly, roughly 300-400 rounds
Recommend me my first CCW handgun>full size only
>>61945016PX4 Compact
>>61945023Ugly :/
>>61945016Glock 34
>>61945016Px4 SD
>>61945016S&W M&P9 2.0, realistically
>>61945016HK P30 LEM in 9mm. Best ergos on the market and a decent trigger that can be significantly improved with about one benjamin worth of optional parts
>>61945048>maggot grip>shitty manufacture and QC>Garbage trigger>as fat as a double stack glock .45
>>61945071>t. saw burt's collage and thinks he's enlightened for disliking HKs
>>61945048>double stack 9mm>1.37" wide Lmao, no
>>61945099>anon asks for full size handgun for CCW>another anon suggests P30>third anon: "the P30 is... le big"
>>61945099>1.37" wideI guarantee that's from the ambi slide release levers or something and the slide is about as wide as a Glock's.
>>61942684The only Recon Rifleworks I see is in Orange Park, FL is that the one you're talking about?
>>61945109The P30 is le suck.
>>61945071>shitty manufacture and QCExcuse me but cheap manufacturing techniques does not mean [presumably] poor QC [you didn't specify but your tone is condescendingly negative].Any time somebody says QC I'm instantly wary because NO ONE knows what HK's internal quality control checks are or whether or not their pistols pass or fail. I highly doubt they have a "plastic glob" check or a "right side mold of the USP got borked" check. There is a difference between things being/looking cheap and things breaking/not working. I think nearly everyone who uses "QC" as a catch-all doesn't understand this.
>>61945071P30 has a different grip than the VP9s, but stay salty and poor.
>>61945136Sounds like a skill issue
>>61945141Based Burt defending the truth (and HK) when it matters most. Thank you king
>>61945132that's the one.
>>61945148That post also applies to Sig, Taurus or anyone else, and you will notice I selected only one point to contendI hate Heckler & Koch and Heckin & Kochsuckers
>>61945168I noticed. I just like to mess with you :3
I might get a P2000 for my CCW, not too interested in throwing a dot on it, just a light.
>>61945253Dots are overrated for carry anyway. Good luck finding a holster that fits it with your light though
>>61945048>significantly improvedIt's still dogshit. You gotta spend the $3-400 on some lazy wolf work. But in case you disagree, mine is up for sale and it has the gray guns short reset in it>>61945078I bought an HK and from that moment on disliked it
>>61945273>You gotta spend the $3-400 on some lazy wolf workWhat can lazy wolf do for the P30 trigger?
I still remember the guy from here who bought a USP and when he got it at the gun store his disappointment was so immense he was almost crying as he signed the paperwork.H&K is disappointing as fuck
>>61945295Completely unfuck it. I've seen near LTT 92 levels of greatness from him.
>>61945305A little hyperbolic but my disappointment was so visible the staff were worried about me
I want Snake's gun from MGS3.
>>61945305>>61945331I have 5.5 HK pistols (including 2 USPs) and I just like them! :DDD Makes me feel like I'm in Counter-Strike or John Wick or Evangelion!! :DDD
>>61945400>Makes me feel like I'm in [...]Evangelion!!I'm so sorry.
>>61945419I just keep letting me down letting me down letting dowwwwn (((: Also that pic should say "zoomer" instead since use millennials have become the mommies by now.
>>61945310Once bitten twice shy, I’m not falling for the Hk meme again
>>61945261If they make you shoot better, it’s worth trying to carry one
>>61943764The fact that we don't have a full size ANYTHING in 30SC is proof it's dead as a door nail, no P320, no G17, no PDP, what the point of this caliber if I can't carry the real benefit of the caliber.....
>>61945511Buy a Mk23.
>>61945529If you’re carrying a full-size, why not just use a magazine extension?
>>61945529>full size ANYTHING in 30SChttps://www.nighthawkcustom.com/30-super-carry
>>61945310Proof?
>>61945541I already do with my staccato, my point is more ammo for the same space.>>61945542wow 12 rounds instead of 10 round 9mm counterparts, not even the 30% increase they claim...
>>61945568>there's no full-size anything"There's a $4000 1911">there's a full-size thing, but it only offers 20% more capacity (in a single-stack gun) not 30%
i was looking on the charter arms website and they seem to have a new gun. their guns are kind of overpriced but a 6" j frame 5 shot 357 fucking rulesi dont want to spend $670 on one, though. all the charters i've seen really just dont seem to be that well built, i've seen way too many used 22s with peened cylinders to trust them
>>61942150Holomeme is good. (Glock 34 with 507 rds and tlr1hl.)
>>61945586oh also the engravings on the guns are absolutely atrocious and while i dont mind poor fit and finish these guns are more expensive than a taurus and look worse than the shit phoenix arms puts out. come the fuck on you guys
>>61945596Woah there high roller, a holosun AND a streamlight? >lone green dot Yeah, not a big fan of large reticles. With the dot that’s always where the bullet goes, less shit to be concerned with. I was doing a drill I saw in a Ben Stoeger video for color confirmation shooting, rapid fire where you shoot the follow up shot as soon as you see color in your window. I did way worse with the large reticle, with the small dot even in color confirmation I was getting more precision.
>>61945586>T A R G E T M A S T I F F>.357This is like when you go to camp with the kid who makes great marshmallows and then he says he likes them burnt and holds them in the fire until they're jet black.
>>61945556I'll check later, but if you want an answer now check his youtube. He talks about sigs too so you'll have fun.
>>61945617Well I carry a gun for work. The Holomeme 507 is a tough little bastard with good MOA for 230ish dollars. I can attest to it being tough, being that I wreck a dirtbike enduro riding multiple times on it in a kydex molded holster. And for the TLR1, fuck you streamlight is a good light and I will fight anyone who says it isnt. (specifically over the TLR-1HL, Which is both based and spedpilled.)>>61945611the only good thing Charter makes is the classic bulldog, because it looks cool and .44 SPC is cooler than fuck.>>61945586Get a .327 mag. Not enough love for that round.
>>61945626>search YouTube for lazy wolfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dayofDFbqQNice.
It's over.
>>61945764You’ll shoot your eye out kid.
>>61945556>>61945626https://youtu.be/9r0sEuRkMX8?t=448
>>61945764>a gun that fires on its own, launches itself out of the holster, reloads, and shoots you againhow will people with information that might lead to Hillary Clinton's arrest ever recover
>>61945764Threadly reminder that if you live or work in an urban environment YOU WILL DIE if you don't have have Sig Saur Fkux Raider Legion in your Get Home Safely Bag.
>>61945764at least nobody will appendix carry a p320 with this on i guess?
>>61945794But in urban environments where you will need the Fuck Raider you aren't allowed to have a gun at all
>>61945800Fux Raider
>>61945764I can not express how fucking gay those are. If I wanted a PDW sized pistol, I would just carry a PDW. >>61945794Thats retarded. Just have a shorty AR like a normal person. >>61945800> "not allowed" K. So anyways I was at the mall with my MK12 folded in my backpack.
The entire point of a handgun is it's a handgun. Why would you put some stupid transforming condom on your handgun? Why not carry a full on PCC or a short rifle in 300BLK?
>>61945764James Reeves can sell anything.
>>61945818>If I wanted a PDW sized pistol, I would just carry a PDW.OAL comparison on a MP5K w/ folding brace vs Flux 320?
>>61945857Shorts with a double-digit inseam length?
Does this come in different barrel lengths?
>>61945864Folding brace? What are you, gay? Just buy a TP9 or MP5k with a telescopic stock. If those extra half inches make a difference, you are a manlet.
>>61945907He probably wants to avoid a tax stamp, the reason why literally anyone buys a brace.
>>61945897I was going to say "Any barrel length you want, as long as it's 5.87 inches." but apparentlyhttps://rimcountrymfg.com/product/rcm-mk-23-barrel-6-020-length/
>>61945907Stock, brace, whatever—which one collapses shorter for carriage in a cheap backpack?
What gran was M9 designed to fire?
>>61945940124+P
>>61945952I thought it was 147 ?
>>61945955You were incorrect.
>>61945940124 gr NATO
>>61945925Which one did the SOCOM use tho?
>>61945914How to avoid a tax stamp1. dont be a fucking cuck 2. dont pay for one. 3. Realize cops dont have Xray vision.>>61945931>"which one is shorter, you dont understand, that extra 1.75 inches means YAGMI!!!"Which one is more stable, has softer recoil. higher velocities, and better accuracy.Are you hiding the gun up your ass? >>61945897Maybe, but you need no other, for the Mark 23 is perfect in every way.
>>619459615.87"The whole point of the Mk23 commercial is that it's literally The Gun As Issued (minus the KAC silencer, Wilcox LAM, and LBT holster)>>61945979>that extra 1.75 inches means YAGMI!!!"I'm getting the impression that the Flux 320 is nearly 2" shorter with the...shoulder thing...stowed than a real PDW. Is that right?
Ever since that one guy pointed out that the VP9 grip looks like maggots I can't stand looking at any H&K guns, but the VP9 especially.
>>61946026wow, rude
>>61946037I can't help it.When I think of the VP9 I imagine shaking hands with a giant mountain of maggots in human form.
>>61945771I can't see anything in that video he's just yanking through the wall and releasing past the reset with no subtlety. The distances I'm seeing seem in line with the Grey Guns reset shortener. But without a clearer video or my finger on the trigger I have trouble believing it's that goodAppreciate the link though!>>61946026The VP9 has a different, coarser (cheaper) texture than other HKs though, the better to wring every last shekel out of their molds. The other HKs are more like 300 grit texturing or Swedish pubes where the VP9 is like some spear chucking 20 grit Congolese pubes
>>61946074>people's pistol>maggot grip textureWhat did Heckler and Cock mean by this?
What's the best gun magazine/website I can read on the toilet?
>>61946117IIRC most issues of Soldier of Fortune are on archive.org
>>61946018The MP5K is almost 2 inches longer.The MPXK is only 1.50 longer.The TP9 is the same length but less profile.>>61946054That seems like a psychological issue bud. May wanna do a little boozin and cruisin for that.>>61946117None. You meditate and pray while shitting. Its the perfect time to self reflect.
Any experience with fitting those HK45C magazine releases in a USP9 w/polymer mags? I saw the metal can fuck up the polymer. I've gotten someone used to the paddle release but it's still tiny as fuck
>>61946127>Any experience with [doing bottom surgery on a HK pistol]Pay someone else to do it. It's not worth your sanity to DIY.
>>61945818>Shorty AR in urban scenarioShot by cops/ganged up on by anyone around with a gun
>>61946152https://youtu.be/kt_1H1OfZDM>>61946152It's taking out a single roll, anon. I'm also not going to go to a gunsmith for anything that dosen't need machining work or is super fiddly.I'm asking about it because I've seen that the metal HK45 catch can wear on the polymer mags and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience or a better way to get a bigger mag catch on the thing.
hey bros, is the 407k/507k the best micro red dot?need an RMSc pattern dot.
>>61946175> any Gun in literally any urban scenerio> the same shit. cops are retarded.nigs gonna nig.You think either one are gonna stop and go "Oh no see thats a flux not a PDW or AR15. They are a goodguy :)."Dont be retardedIf a gunfight in the city, and you find yourself involved in it to the capacity you need a flux, then shit has gone south enough you need body armor and a rifle. Stop overthinking retarded scenerios that will never happen about how a Flux would PERFECTLY fit a role.PistolCarbine Soft armor and a plate in a backpackdone
>>61946205Smaller guns with smaller bullets are lower profile, its all about how much of a problem having to shoot rifle rounds in a very echoey urban environment is and how people are going to see your AR before they see your face.
I don't even have an AR
Kyle Rittenhouse used a rifle in a realistic unrest scenario and everyone heard his shots, saw his rifle and swarmed him. A rifle is not the ideal tool for most situations and there are scenarios where you could want more than a pistol but don't want the attention a rifle brings.
>>61946074It seems shorter, but I'm sure as shit not about to pay $435 to find out https://lazywolfguns.com/hk-servicesHence, my shit is up for sale.
>>61946228>realistic unrest scenarionot really
>>61946217Ever fired a handgun in an urban environment? Turns out, guns are loud.>"Well the rifle is louder and slight larger, so its gonna draw more attention"Guns are going off, you have everyone's attention who matters.
>>61946197EPS Carry
>>61946228>heard his shotsHe suffered his DGU in plain view of an angry mob; he could've been using a suppressed Mk23 and they still would've known what was up.
>>61946257Ever been to an outdoor range? Turns out rifle shots carry a lot farther and they sound far more prominent than pistols. What am I saying though go rock your unused shorty AR I hope it works for you. >>61946276He ran into a mob with his AR in plain view. He either had to ditch the gun around some people or if he had a pistol or something he could jam under his clothes he could have tried to evade in the confusion.
>>61946228>>61946254Yea? And you know what he did? He used his rifle to fucking shoot them. Him having a flux wouldnt have made a fucking difference. One, Kyle was a retard and shouldnt have been over on that side, he was doing militia larp shit until it got real, he wasnt attempting to "hide and make a discreet get away." The flux is low profile and more discreet? ok so is a pistol, but the moment you fire a shot and rounds start flying, your whole "sneaky grey man" shit is going out the window, and in a gunfight you want a rifle. >>61946276Exactly.But no if he had a flux he could have ninjad his way out or some bs cause its small n shet
>>61946286>Noooo stop larping as sneaky I wanna larp as cawadooty!
>>61946285unused? Colt 733. Try againAnd yea? The topic was is carrying a flux better in an urban enviroment, than carrying literally any other small frame gun because its 1.75 inches shorter than an MP5K, and quieter than a rifle. The answer is no. Thats retarded, and he should be ashamed for having asked it. Pay attention
>>61946292Pack it up boys. Carrying a rifle is gamer Larp. Both of these "scenerios" are extremely unlikely. But its pretty well established that when you are getting shot at, having a rifle is a pretty good idea.
>>61946298I hope your AR works out for you then, but it would suck to have to throw that thing in a trash can because it can't fit down your pants.
>>61946312It's more likely to have to shoot then disengage than it is to shoot through 50 people. Recent scenarios have blown the AR larper arguments out of the water.
>>61946266what about this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8S_USw2Bkk
>>61946303No it wasnt fake. If it was fake they would have used someone who could hold a lie together, and Rittenhouse is shrimply too low IQ. Like unironically failed the Asvab
>>61946312An AR or PDW are both super larpy.
>>61945331What were you expecting when you wanted the USP? Genuinely curious as I got mine recently and it fulfilled everything I wanted from it, as a workman's pistol that's built like a tank.
>>61946313And a Flux can? >A gunfight broke out, I killed someone in a subway, let me tuck my flux in my pants so I can make my escape even though everyone is now yelling, running, filming, or what ever. This certainly will go as planned and give me some advantage.vs.>I killed someone with all that is happening, I reholster my Glock, slide my carrier pack to my chest, and prep my rifle. Oh I need it now? Splendid, kill some other people, and again, slide it into my backpack and leave? both scenerios sound retard and unlikely.Once the fight starts, you are most likely gonna be stuck in it unless you fight your way out. I wana have a rifle for that.>>61946318Then why do you need a Flux? Just carry a handgun. And if you ARE gonna carry a flux, why not just carry an MP5K or TP9. And if you are are already carrying that, just have a armored pack and a small rifle >>61946124
>>61946319Depends on how much you're concerned about the effects of parallax and distortion on your POI (on a gun small enough to be stuck with an RMSc footprint) vs holster lint or rainwater's effect on being able to see your reticle clearly.
>No you can't have a gun that's concealable under clothing but has more control than a pistol you can only take a pistol or AR
>>61946357Then shoot through a crowd Rambo. Also what's wrong with wanting more than a handgun but still wanting a gun you can stuff under clothing? Are you afraid your meme AR barrel length is losing niche potential or something?
>>61946364>implying a pistol isn't easily controllablemaybe invest in a gym membership instead of some certified sigger slop?
>>61946375There is nothing wrong with it retard. Look at my original statements. I use an AR because I can and it works for me, I just assume carry USK and small rifle. The arguement is the FLUX itself. Why carry that when you can carry a TP9, MPXK, MP5K, etc, that have all the advantages, miniscule length differences, and in the case of the TP9, less jagged profile. Or you could just carry a small detachable covert stock that you can quickly mount to your pistol, giving you the stability of 3POC.The Flux is stupid at everything
>>61946357>And if you ARE gonna carry a flux, why not just carry an MP5K or TP9. And if you are are already carrying that, just have a armored pack and a small rifle"just carry a 'concealable' shoulder gun two inches—no, four or five inches—longer in a correspondingly encumbering backpack that doesn't look out of place at all in an urban environment"Unless your idea of a "small rifle" is something like an unsuppressed Sig Rattler, everyone is going to know something is up, even if they don't know "something" is a 11.5" AR with a LAW folding stock adapter. Anything over about 16" OAL doesn't fit in ANYTHING that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb to anyone paying attention, and if you do decide to lug a bag voluminous enough for it, it's not going to be carrying much of anything besides the gun.
>>61946396Apparently you have to have it just incase a big gunfight breaks out and you need a little more gun, but no too much gun because that could get you unwanted attention and cause some commotion, you know, after the FUCKING GUNFIGHT and all.See with a flux you can have the .0012 advantage in a gunfight, and then magically disappear like they do in the movies when a bus passes the camera.
>>61946422I don't even think you get an advantage. You need to deploy it right? That takes more time than just drawing a pistol and shooting at a slower cadence. The brace would help at distance, but you're not likely to win a self defense case shooting at 50 yards.
The Flux 320, B&T USW, et al. are clearly for somebody, but not enough somebodies to support actually mass producing them, so they have to be marketed in a way that convinces people they're not for that they are, in fact, for them, and most of the drama surrounding them comes from people reminding them that they're not actually the intended end user, just fools being parted from their money.
>>61946433Brass Facts has a video comparing a pistol with and without a stock, from concealment, out to like 100 yards, and the results probably won't shock you at all.
>>61946413>Take my Colt 733put the upper and lower in a small pack travel pack, OAL in transit is perfect for literally any school pack sized bag. Buy an armored backpack that they specifically make to look not standout, those exist.> Glock 34 or 19 IWB.>Some rapscallion accosts me in a violent manner.>Kill him, his melaninated brothers seek retribution.>Use the Glock to get into a covered position >Instead of turning tail and running, such as they normally do, they use their powers given to them by the great Yakub to summon a Civil peaceful protest around me.>Open the pack, slap the upper and lower together, charge it. >Intense gunfight that required more than a pistol.>The police havent arrived? Odd, but I shall make my grand escape.>Shove rifle in pack >Everyone in the vacinity who is smart has fled, those who didnt hear the commotion have their head so far up their ass they never see your slightly large backpack.>You live.
>>61946485733's upper is 18.5" plus whatever muzzle device is on it, most school bags are ~19" internal height. An AUG with the barrel removed is 20" and can just barely be crammed into the North Face Connector I have as a reference schoolbag. A Leatherback One Civilian One armor-carrying backpack (the biggest pack they make that isn't covered in MOLLE) might fit a disassembled 11.5" AR diagonally if the flash hider isn't too long. It's not "perfect" by any stretch. You are LARPing like a motherfucker.Burt, make a new thread already; this one sucks.
>>61946575>Its LARP Ok Onions boy. I have done it, it works, its better than any flux. You are not only wrong, but also stupid. I dont know why you retards argue with me. I know more than you. Just accept it and move on with some dignity.
>>61944875It didn't sell well and they discontinued it this year. Autists on /k/ don't like that it has a tilting barrel and a different trigger bar than the bigger pistols.
Mailing my slide out to have work done on it, but what [part is actually considered the receiver for a handgun? It's the frame with the FCG, right?
New>>61947500>>61947500>>61947500
>>61947492The slide is not considered the serialized part so you can buy/sell/trade/ship them without *much concern.
>>61947506this is a thread for retards.
>>61947516Ah good, the normal /k/ threads have returned.
>>61946397I've seen a lot of "the jews" talk before. But this takes the cake. Deeply explain, and post actual evidence.I don't even know who stands to gain from this being some stunt.
>>61946422>>61946433The hypothetical AR in this scenario is a garbage ballistics gun with more recoil that cant be drawn from concealment and here we have you making up scenarios where someone doesnt have a handgun at all but has a pdw type gun.
>>61947553That one looks like well poisoning.
>>61946397Bruh hahahahahha
