https://jeune-nation.com/actualite/actu-france/la-france-envisage-de-se-fournir-en-mlrs-indien-pinakahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6WBznz4XACan this new system fulfill France's dire need for rocket artillery? How is its performance compared to other systems?
Impressive
>>62909451>buying poo equipmentWhat the fuck frogs?
>>62909451Lol lmao no
>>62909544>https://jeune-nation.com/actualite/actu-france/la-france-envisage-de-se-fournir-en-mlrs-indien-pinaka>Recently, Brigadier General Stéphane Richou, General Officer "International Relations" of the Army General Staff, told the Indian agency ANI that France was considering purchasing the Indian MLRS "Pinaka" as part of its program to replace the American M270 missile systems:>"We have an emergency regarding the succession of the LRU. We are evaluating the Pinaka Multiple Launch Rocket System because we need a system like that. We are evaluating the system among other systems offered by the top countries which are offering such systems. India is one of the largest arms producing countries"
>>62909552Infia is not selling any military hardware anywhere in the world let alone Europe
>>62909552They had 50+ M270 and got rid of them in 2008They reactivated and upgraded 13 of their M270s to M270A1 standard.I assume they're not buying American again due to timetables with HIMARS production.Id think they'd ideally develop and manufacture their own, but that still probably take 10-15 years, so my assumption is these Indian MLRSs will be a stopgap before France develops a domestic MLRS in the 2030s.
India will buy RAFALE and FAMAS
>>62909535Unironically protectionism both countries love protectionism, a scenario in which India buys more Rafales to replace its migs and exchange France buys hundreds of MLRS from India is pretty realistic
>>62909451>Camo pattern is cartoon shit splodges
>>62909609India likely offers tech transfer. US does not.
HAS to be fake news.
>>62909925France doesn't need/want tech transfer.There is nothing in a modern MLRS france can't make themselves, it would just take awhile to actually develop a system since they don't have one already.
>>62909451So the french want a 122mm grad with an option to use propriatary poo rockets that are just slightly larger grads? Bullshit.
>>62909609>before France develops a domestic MLRS in the 2030s.Why are they not buying GMARS or EuroPULS? Is it just pure ego?
>>62909884Isn't even a real camo job, they did such a crappy job with the paint basic pattern reconition can tell them apart.
>>62910051Gaullo-MitterrandismFrance has long been making sure most of their military is domestic so they aren't reliant on NATO suppliers. This is why france maintains and still plans to maintain the ability to project power overseas in force, it's why france develops their own nukes instead of asking to join the US/UK nuke sharing agreement, it's why france developed their own aircraft carrier, their own fighters, their own aircraft carrier launched fighters, etc, etc.
>>62909451This is the same delusion as a 5th gen indigenous fighter or the first pajeet on Mars or Make in India. It's laughable but in an endearing way like you would laugh at a child
>>62909929It is the source is an indian news site.
>>62909884Beat me to it, damn.
>>62909535France is known as "The Russsia of Europe" for a reason. They usually leave the innovation to their Germanic Neighbors
>>62909451I'm sick of all this anti-Indian racism.Once you scrape off the layer of caked-on feces, it's a perfectly good system.
>>62910194>France has long been making sure most of their military is domestic so they aren't reliant on NATO suppliersYet it had no money to develop its own rocket system? Go figure!>This is why france maintains and still plans to maintain the ability to project power overseas in force, it's why france develops their own nukes instead of asking to join the US/UK nuke sharing agreement, it's why france developed their own aircraft carrier, their own fighters, their own aircraft carrier launched fighters, etc, etc.Lol, I wonder how much percent those equipment are actually French since it's now importing rifles from Germany.
>>62910780They have the money, they just doctrinally didn't see it as super important, they still had 55 of the M270 until they got rid of them in 2008.
>>62910787>They have the money, Sure you do. But will the time be sufficient enough?>they just doctrinally didn't see it as super important, Well, that's where you got it wrong.>they still had 55 of the M270 until they got rid of them in 2008.Sorry, but I think I had enough with your excuses. You are screwed and it's all because your leadership failed to predict what's coming.
>>62910869I'm american and british anon.But if it helps you feel better to pretend I'm french, that's fine.
>>62910882>I'm american and british anonSure you are.
>>62909451>"We are evaluating the system among other systems offered by the top countries which are offering such systems." nothing to see here...
>>62913537The very fact that such news are coming out represents how desperate the situation they are in is.
>>62910882>American and British then we can toss your ass overboard in the middle of the Atlantic
>>62910780>Yet it had no money to develop its own rocket system? Go figure! this is not a funding problem, but priority. >I wonder how much percent those equipment are actually French since it's now importing rifles from Germany. all what the other guy mentioned is produced and manufactured in France, including sats, missiles, VMAX, radars and other technologies... only a part of their small arms are produced from neighboring countries. but I see you are trying to be a little troll anyway. >>62910869>Well, that's where you got it wrong. he's not wrong. they didn't see it as important decades ago but the rapid changes of modern warfare accelerated by the current events made them think otherwise. >Sorry, but I think I had enough with your excuses. You are screwed and it's all because your leadership failed to predict what's coming. screwed? how screwed? what excuses? he's literally replying to you with plausible arguments and you are just here trying to smear him without a single explanation>>62909609this is the most reasonable explanation.
>>62910755No it isnt
>>62913542how is India desperate?
>>62910755>They usually leave the innovation to their Germanic Neighbors this hasn't been true for the last... two millennia.
>>62913586Pierre is in damage control. Expect to find more like him when the French gov actually imports Indian goods.
Realistically if you want to buy a modern MLRS now you only have three choices: PULS, Chunmoo and maybe the Pinaka mentioned in this thread. M270A2 and HIMARS are okay for what they are but you will probably have to wait a decade for them. You only want to buy Russian if you have no other choice because to be brutally honest the Russian MLRS are pretty shit compared to their competitors and buying from China poses some very serious political considerations. Of course for a country like France Chinese and Russian are non-starters to begin with but at the end of the day your choices are very limited. I'm sure someone will post some niche system that has X or Y features but they are mostly irrelevant because you want to buy something that is actually produced in any real quantity if you don't want your costs ballooning out of control in the future and zero compatibility with anyone else.
i refuse to believe such a thing. french are contrarian by nature and have always been a pain in the ass to deal with by NATO, ever since degaulle became president. they always want to do things their own way, in order to show to us and themselves that they are actually stronk and can do it on their own. like for their nuclear program. i refuse to believe a government of stuck up egotistical faggots would even consider lowering themselves into buying hardware coming from a FORMER COLONY OF BRITAIN.
>>62913616>Indian defence exports to the US mainly consist of sub-systems and components, which include global defence majors like Boeing and Lockheed Martin sourcing fuselage, wings, and other parts of aircraft and helicopters from India as part of their global supply chain networks as well as offset commitments. >The Tata Boeing Aerospace venture in Hyderabad, for instance, is making the fuselage and secondary structures for Apache attack helicopters. >Ammunition: India exports a variety of small arms ammunition to the U.S. This includes cartridges for rifles and pistols, used for both military and law enforcement purposes. >Drones and UAVs: India has been a part of the growing global drone market and has provided unmanned aerial systems (UAVs) to the U.S. for specific defense applications. >Shipbuilding Components: India has supplied components for naval ships, including ships for the U.S. Navy. I mean at this point, the US army is by far the most jeetified in the world, even more than Canada kek
>>62913632>ever since degaulle became president. they always want to do things their own way it just sounds like some people are only angry that the French don't buy everything from the US like anybody else. I say good for them. nothing in the NATO agreements forces its members to buy from a specific country, only that your defence expenditures must be at least 2% of your GDP. >coming from a FORMER COLONY OF BRITAIN. well, to a lesser extent India is also a former colony of France ;)
>>62913655That was done to meet make in India requirements for a huge Apache order.If this rocket sale is real likely a offset retirement in Scopene or Rafael sale. Watch em get sold a year later like Britain did with its early Eurofighters.
>>62913715French are notoriously hard to work with in joint programs, because they expect people to abide by their own specifications based on their own needs.
LOL FROGS ARE LITERALLY BUYING FROM POOS.
>>62914257No.The poos just like to pretend that they have buyers.
>>62914263Are you saying the interview from the french general is fake?
>>62913961>French are notoriously hard to work with in joint programsexcept dozens of successful programs (like the SCALP/Storm Shadow that's buttblasting ziggers rn) prove the contrarybut maybe your hateboner will become real if you keep repeating yourself eventually
>>62914265not fake, but they didn't buy anything yet, they are just assessing different options and India made a big deal about even being "considered". that's it. we all know the US is one of the biggest customer of India's tech and manpower anyway, as mentioned here >>62913655
>>62914305>SCALP/Storm ShadowBritish invention. Nothing significant has been brought by the French so far. They were praising submarine launched Exocet as the next gen tech a while ago without noticing Harpoon and other nations including North Korea has been doing it for decades already.
>>62913613>France:>Different strains of wine and ways to torture a bird before cooking it>Britain and Germany:>Nuclear physics and Aeronautical research >this article considers such achievements equal Nice try, Mohammed
>>62913655>the Frogs entire missile force hinges on some poos>this is the equivalent of US buying some bulletsWhy have Frogs sucked at war since Napoleon?
>>62910882Kill yourself warriorjogger>>62913537He posts this gay thread every time, he even posted the same shit in his shill thread /meg/.Every time some open western MIC evaluates something Indian or from SEA (with no intention to actually buy it) he posts this shit.
>>62915962>>Nuclear physics "The history of nuclear physics as a discipline distinct from atomic physics, starts with the discovery of radioactivity by Henri Becquerel in 1896, made while investigating phosphorescence in uranium salts." Henri Becquerel, French physicist, Nobel Prize in Physics in 1903 >>Aeronautical research and now tell me where Arianespace and Airbus come from exactly? HAHAHA you couldn't get more check mate than this LMAO
>>62914305He can't help it, he just seethes at anything within Europe including the UK. Average DnC autist.
>>62915994at least try to make your baits less blatant, you are lazy tonight :(
>>62913655Sauce on Indian ammo exported here? I would unironicslly sample some small arms cartridges from poo land for the lols
>>62910051>GMARS Locksneed Martin >Euro-PULS Longnose tribe Buying poo-in-loo has the fewest strings attached.
>>62915889>They were praising submarine launched Exocet as the next gen tech a while ago Your reading comprehension could use some work. The PR puff pieces are about the SM40 upgrade. Exocet has been offered in a sub-launched version (SM39) since the late-80s, but that one is no longer competitive (short range, low-res seeker). Hence the improved SM40 version, based on the Exocet Block 3c.
>>62909451>shit flung at a brown wallwhy don't the poos use better camo? fucking OD would be better than that
It will be fun if the pompous frogs give those to ukies.
>>62913617South Korea is a nice option. Ditto Japan if they care to compete.
>>62918241>Ditto Japan if they care to compete.Japan isn't allowed to under the current terms of the license agreement as far as I am aware.They're allowed to produce M270 for themselves, but I don't think they have the rights to build them for export.
>>62910755>>62915962>>62916024lmao got his ass
>>62909451They hope that Indian imports will be immune to the Gayrapean no shells curse and thus be useful. Pro tip: they are wrong
