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the ultimate warfighter weapon. Called a spear which is MANLY and MASCULINE, like a MASCULNE MANLY SPARTAN in 300. It's bulky because MANLY MEN can CARRY a LOT of weight. It breaks down easily because MANLY TRAD MEN can easily repair it on the BATTEFIELD. It's got a BIG MANLY BULLET with big MANLY PRESSURE just like my MANLY MEAT ROD when it BLASTS CUM inside other MENS asses (heterosexually)
Was this the main pitch SIG did to Hesgeth?
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I know you're memeing but you cannot repair it on the battlefield with the issues it is having. From barrels breaking off fresh off the factory floor after a few rounds, to the suppressor 'catastrophically' failing (i.e, exploding). That can't be fixed in the field. Don't worry, SIG just needs another $5bn to fix these issues.
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>>64614698
>EVROG°D HERE
Can this rifle not be the next m16? The m16 was also hated when it was implemented and now it's one of the best rifle platforms in the world.
Why can't the spear do the same?
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>the ultimate warfighter weapon. Called a spear which is MANLY and MASCULINE, like a MASCULNE MANLY SPARTAN in 300. It's bulky because MANLY MEN can CARRY a LOT of weight. It breaks down easily because MANLY TRAD MEN can easily repair it on the BATTEFIELD. It's got a BIG MANLY BULLET with big MANLY PRESSURE just like my MANLY MEAT ROD when it BLASTS CUM inside other MENS asses (heterosexually)
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>>64614844
Bullpup thompBAR Dios Mio
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>>64614690
but seriously how do you make a scar but gayer
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>>64614690
>super high pressure and suppressed
i just feel bad for the armorer
this also feels like pre ww1 doctrine being issued for a war that isn't going to be anything like the next war.
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Hegseth is a national embarrassment for the yanks. The US needs a defense secretary who will support and enable allies to hold Russia accountable, not amplify kremlin disinformation while attacking democratic institutions.
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>>64614690
(you)
>>64614772
M16 is a light, low pressure, soft shooting, with good capacity. It was explicitly chosen over the heavier, higher weight, heavier ammo, lower capacity AR10.

Somehow we have unlearned everything and now were getting a gun that is worse than an AR10.

>>64615444
This
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>>64615651
Get all of your glorious Africans, Pakistanis, and Jeets to die in your jewhad against Russia.
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>>64614772
The M16 was "hated" because of deliberate sabotage by the top brass refusing to allow the replacement of the M14, which was obsolete on the drafting table
>Why can't the spear do the same?
The spear is a firearm that was drummed up by the now top brass to ensure they get a nice retirement package and money in the pockets of their friends at SIG USA, it's issues are ever present but ignored because of it
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>>64614844
Cook BAR was actually the right way to go about solving the "we want everybody to have a big gun that can do everything at every range" problem. Bullpup with a normal full-sized rifle round so it can be short while providing adequate barrel length to give desired performance without the need for stupid chamber pressure. Add mounting points for sights and it's basically what they want. It doesn't make it smart to want that, but it's the right way to do it.

The SIG thing seems like the result of deciding you want to shoot big bullets at long range, but the most important thing is for it to look the same as what you had before and you don't care how many compromises you have to make in the name of retaining a conventional layout with a short barrel like the M4 had.
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>>64616003
>>64615651
Falseflag samepidor
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>>64615778
>Somehow we have unlearned everything and now were getting a gun that is worse than an AR10.
Engagement distances have grown considerably since the M16 was introduced. Performance at longer ranges is now considered more important, that generally means big boolet
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>>64614690
The Spear was adopted under Biden and has been in military production for three years at this point. Get a new talking point, you fucking redditor.
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>>64614690
It's like the army wanted a new DMR and some retard in charge had a lightning bolt moment and decided to make EVERYONE a fucking Designated Marskman. A 6x scope and one per squad makes WAY more sense
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>>64616188
We’re at the point where it’s either the army trying to make everyone a marksman or the marines trying to make everyone a machine gunner. I honestly don’t know if this kind of thinking is a true lightning bolt moment or if everyone’s been munching on the forbidden crayons.
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>>64614690
>Was this the main pitch SIG did to Hesgeth?
I know that he's a retard but this program started years ago and he had very little to do with it
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>>64616321
back when he was just a drunk loser, not a drunk loser with access to state secrets
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>>64616348
exactly, it's some other drunk loser running america into the ground. thank god it will all be over soon.
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>>64614690
this shit predates Hegseth, retard
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>>64618152
theyre still recovering from 2024, give them time
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>>64616090
As evidenced by the war in Ukraine, right?

The entire program makes no sense because the gun is heavier, with less capacity, heavier ammo, and has poor dispersion. This is another stupid pork project.

We could have gotten more range out of a 6arc/max icar medium frame or 6.5cm large frame all with less weight and better accuracy. It's not a good gun.

99% of engagements are going to be inside of a few hundred yards against guys with AKs.

>>64616082
Nope, stay retarded.
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DoD has probably done more and better tests than uncle fudd and 4channers
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>>64616242
The astonishing part is that the marine's decision is the less retarded approach. One can certainly argue a lot better for turning everyone man into a proxy automatic riflemen instead of a squad of pseudo designated marksmen.
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>>64616044
are boomers the most evil generation? They sacrificed their childrens' future for their selfish lifestyles
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>>64616188
>4moa DMR
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>>64622188
>appeal to authority
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>>64622188
>from the creators of UCP
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>>64614690
>Big burly men holding big hot throbbing rods
Hesgeth must've loved every moment of the pitch
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>>64622336
>4moa

where are you getting that from?
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>>64615651
>democratic institutions
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>>64622847
It's honestly incredible how these people live rent-free in your heads. You probably didn't know a single cabinet member's name under Obama or Biden, yet with Trump you have everyone memorized with an accompanying one-dimensional trait, and read about and reference them constantly like you're continually trying to maintain face inside a social club.
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>>64623348
What's incredible is how stupid the people in this administration are. That's why they're so memorable. If some moron shot themselves in the dick after claiming to be the best shooter on the range that would live rent free in my head too.
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>64623348
The bar is so low that it’s apparently bad to be informed now
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>>64623348
Some faces in the current admin have earned the attention with their actions.
Nobody else in living memory has been as utterly retarded. They'll be remembered in history books for the damage they've done, be it reversible or not.
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>>64623356
And the cronies in other cabinets were any better? No anon, you just eat up ragebait content while performatively insulting the officials in the hope of getting updoots and (you's) that confirm you are on The Correct Team. The more hyperbolic your accusations, the more attention you accrue. But to get the updoots, you'll have to gradually increase the baseline assumption of your target. So by the end of 2028, you'll probably be screaming at the top of your lungs that Hegseth is stumbling around the Pentagon drunk 24/7 while running a secret MAGA whiskey distillery and having gay orgies in his basement. But if you ever say, "Hey that seems kinda ridiculous" you'll get piled-on and lose all those precious, precious social capital points you spent so long acquiring.

And yeah the SIG Spear is a dumb idea that hopefully will be cancelled within 5 years before doing too much damage.
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>>64623399
>So by the end of 2028, you'll probably be screaming at the top of your lungs that Hegseth is stumbling around the Pentagon drunk 24/7 while running a secret MAGA whiskey distillery and having gay orgies in his basement.

I'm already saying that, go gargle Hegseth's nuts some more
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>>64614690
>the ultimate warfighter weapon. Called a DMR which is MANLY and MASCULINE, like a MASCULNE MANLY SPARTAN
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>>64623348
Pete did you know 4chan is uses Calibri? Wooooo Calibri!!!
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>>64623401
So what will you be saying in 2028 to maintain your updoots?
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>>64614690
OPSEC is clear. I repeate OPSEC is clear.
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>>64614690
Manly this manly that Mannn you suck dick
It's fine if you are a fag just admit it this is 2025
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>>64621615
>6mm ARC
>6.5 sneedmore
Hmmm if only there was a rifle literally commissioned by SOCOM that can easily fire every common rifle round already depending on the situation without a billion-dollar government program to develop it using nothing more than a simple conversion kit.

Golly, if only someone thought to make something like that. I wonder if anyone's ever thought of that.
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>>64614844
>>64614894
There is no hope left for man.
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>>64615651
They defined DEI and put it into action in this cabinet, is all I can say.
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>>64623399
nta but yeah
you probably havent watched hegseths retarded speeches that singlehandedly ruined decades of relations with allies
everyone hates us now, except maybe ziggers but... yeah
as far as foreign policy goes no other admin before trump 2 electric boogaloo has been so hellbent on destroying us reputation and trustworthiness
the flak they are getting isn't about whatever petty shit you are imagining, in fact you aren't even saying anything but babbling about some incomprehensible /pol/ bullshit

the world used to actually like and respect us
now it's just fake tardwrangling courtesy to appease the petulant orange manchild
allies dating back to the fucking founding of us now literally consider it a threat to their national security
the current world situation is no joke and it's all caused by a bunch of utter retards for no logical reason whatsoever
and you're acting like a fucking toddler about it

if only you, in your cozy bubble of ignorance, understood how bad things really are



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