"Rotating bolt handgun that predates the Desert Eagle by a century" editionMonthly Challenge for January: https://files.catbox.moe/son1x9.pdf10 yards, one handed, 6 shots, no cheating (we'll know). Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious: >>64777301
Stop shilling Chinese optics
>>64785101There is nothing wrong with Holosun.
>>64785101Shut up nigga, your sig optic was built by some brolic black dude named requis working for a jewish ceo who outsourced most of his company to india
>>64784983I wish these stupid fucks would stop selling this fucking optic along with a gun. Aimpoint doesn't even have a good rep anymore with their enclosed optics, much rather risk it on the eflx. For the price of the optic the RCR would be a good choice. This is assuming you want an equivalent American option, but...>>64785101Not until American sights catch up. So never. Holosun mogs all the American optics options.
>>64785101How about instead of sperging you just tell me which one you'd recommend? Because all of the shit so far has just left me with the elimination of the Osight SE from my list.
>>64785113We wuz american optics manufacturers n shiet>>64785153EPS core
>>64785153I have a Romeo X 2 MOA that I like. Optics selection is harder if you have ligma so the same optic looks different through many people’s eyes. EPSes bloom too much for me. I’ve found that the original RMR and RCR don’t bloom that much so I’ve been going back to those. The RMR HD is the same except the auto brightness can jack it up to the sun and the entire window becomes a gigantic red blob in the right conditions, I think I set it on the lower auto brightness setting for it to stop doing that.
>>64785088I'm so disappointed that KelTec remade their clip-fed handgun into a .380 (this year at Shot Show). If they had any balls left, they would have done it in a weird caliber like .30 Supercarry.
What would your edc be if open carry became mandatory? You can still conceal carry, but it has to be in addition to your open carry weapon.
>>64785217No significant stigmata here. I mean, I guess it exists because tiny red dots are not perfectly round but it's so small that when I got my eyes evaluated the optometrist's eyeball mapping machine didn't show enough deviation from ideal for him to recommend me an RX. I admit I like the EPS Core most because it seems most compact and I do occasionally pocket my hellcat. The AMSC for example is an angular little mf and the Romeo X compact enclosed is the widest of the 3.
>>64785329I'd still just carry a Glock, maybe go with a 45 or 17 instead of a 19. I don't want something heavy like an all-steel 2011 though.
>>64785329My Mark 23 because I shoot it well and it's cool. I'd probably get tired of it getting in the way and OC a compact though.
>>64785329I would continue to conceal carry only
>>64785088im buying a new gun soon
Anon's intel was solid, this Mec-Gar worked flawlessly with my Gen3 G17 [OEM spec]. At first, the magazine catch wasn't particularly audible nor tactile but now it is after 60 rounds [mix of Fiochi and some Czech import]. I kept my pistol loaded with 18+1 cartridges every time to verify its capacity above factory standard [the entire selling point]. Will be carrying this one daily and purchasing a second
>>64785427Dumb question but do they fit a Gen 3 Glock 19
>>64785329Katana on my back. Assailants won't see it coming when I pull a CC.
@Burt you gotta update your optic guide again. The AEMS micro also fits on the ACRO lmao https://youtu.be/-MDmMn9WxxA?t=388
>>64785470 is liable Putting a MGG17 in a smaller frame is a documented point of failure, only use the Glock 19 specific Mec-Gar magazinehttps://mec-gar.com/shop/magazines/glock/glock-19-9mm-18-round/
I am fucking fiending for a 5 inch model 27
The CZ 75 Legend looks cool but the price is turning me off
>>64785329I'd rotate between a Glock 17, 19, Beretta M9, 1911, USP, 686, VP9, and the M17
>>64785536Oh yeah and the COA is releasing on the market standalone. The cut is called the "A-CUT" not COA. https://aimpoint.us/coa-3-5-moa-red-dot-reflex-sight-PA000489/RIP to those who bought a whole ass glock to get one. They should rename it the DOA with how Holosun has mogged them.
>>64785101When will Vortex start selling American-made glass to the public?
>>64785329460XVR
>>64785627I don't get it. I'm the target demographic but I'd rather just buy a genuine pre-B over a reskinned Shadow 2
>>64785718I dunno, maybe I'll buy it because I want to get at least 3 premium guns this year and so far I've narrowed it down to the Colt Python and Benelli M4 H20
>>64785731There's a '77 Python sitting at the LGS near me for a few months now. Gonna try and get em to knock the price down a bit
Should I buy a HK p7m8 or a Hi point c9?
>>64785849Hi point
gentlemen
>>64785970YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE SIDES
why will the Beretta not sell the an m9a4 in a black
>>64785993>>64785661I am once again asking you to update pls
>>64785996because you'll buy the olive green one this year, and the black one next year
>>64786000checked but the best they can do this year is red. Check in next year for olive green.
>Blue M9A4Ok now I am interested
>>64785329>if open carry became mandatory?I'm so surprised no one has chosen a long gun yet.
>>64786038I'm going to the Chipotle, not a trench
>>64785993I wish my Glock 19 was blue
>>64785856Okay, Should I get both tho?
>>64785329But anon, I was already open carrying my Glock 17 exclusively. If an 18+1 capacity isn't enough then a concealed J-frame or subcompact would be less useful than a second magazine
>>64786022It's like a shitass blue though.>>64786100Getting a cerakote is easy. Getting a factory anodized or plastic injection molded as blue is another story.
>>64785113There's a reason why the Chinese are called Asian Jews anon. Up your racism to the next level instead of imitating it.
>>64785427Still not buying a mec gar Glock mag
92-posting, also wood grips look really good on LTT
>>64785997Noted and goated>>64786087You can totally get one, but the -19s tend to be expensive, and it takes a lil work to convert the frame to take a live fire slidehttps://www.gunbroker.com/guns-firearms/search/completed?keywords=glock%2019t&timeframe=1&sort=1&pagesize=48Ackchyoually holy smokes those $550 ones were a steal, they rarely come up and never that cheap
>>64786160I'm not telling you to buy one, just reporting that it works on my machine. If this Mec-Gar ever shits the bed, first thing I'll do is sound the /hg/ alarm. Until then, I get to enjoy 18+1 capacity the same way Beretta and CZ posters have for years
>>64786280I still honestly don't get the hype besides a slight increase in capacity that doesn't do all that much imo. If anything it feels like it was made to get more money out of the glockatto from suckers. No offense.
>>64786282you should give it a manufacturer marklike the 4chan clover
If you care how pretty your firearm looks, you're a gay retard
>>64786346Low vril opinion
>>64785425You should also buy some new gloves. Also the first time in like 2 weeks I have seen your hands and you arent calling someone a faggot.
>>64786354My God you went even lower
>>64785425Are you going to do us all a favor and put the end of it in your mouth?
>>64786370Not as low as Mutt IQ, janny testosterone, or ktard sexual activity
>>64786383You're actively losing braincells
EPS Core is cheaper because they downgraded to 6061 housing. Booo. They need to make an EPS 2.0 that's the same as the Core but 7075.
>>64786528lol, wtfthe difference in price between the two materials would be like a dollar, that's lame as hell
>>64786533asian jews of the world anon
>>64786597Charging a premium for 7075 is uniquely an American tradition. The Chinese knockoff GBRS mounts were 7075 at release. The legit ones are still 6061.
>>64786603>oh but america ASIAN JEWS. NOT AMERICAN, ASIAN.
>>64786519You huff lead all the time shooting indoors, and you put your carcinogenic gun near your food for le epic social posts, then you eat the food. Plus i actually have brain cells to spare unlike some people>>64786597>>64786673>when an Amerimongrel encounters a civilization that is whiter and higher IQ than his own
If China manufacturing sucks so bad, how come my Norinco handgun is the best one i ever owned? Better than my Glock, Jericho, 1911, and any others.
>>64786739It isn't. Checkmate retards.
>>64785088Ok I'm actually gonna do this month's challenge. I was gonna ask hg which firearm i should use, but i just realized i shot all my ammo besides my 44SPL target load, as well as some prehistoric revolver specialty rounds, so I guess I'm running my BVLLdog. >>64786740I bet you never even owned a China gat. I bet you never even fired one. Hell i bet you never even looked at one, after all why would you when it's not gay porn.
>>64786739If China manufacturing is so good, how come my Norinco 1897 shotgun is the worst one i ever owned? Worse than my Remington, Benelli, Browning, and any others.There ftfy, China suxs. Their guns doubly so.
>>64786764It can't possibly be worse than Turkshit though. I had a Bosshog (Benelli m4 clone), and it was trash. It kept jamming, and people were warning me online that it might literally blow up in my face. So i gave it away to my "amigo". He took it willingly, even though i specified that the shotgun is a piece of trash. I also have a Citadel 12G Ar10 clone, but it's a broken piece of shit. It needs a ring, but i never bothered with it. I don't even know what to do with that hunk of shit. Morale of the story is that whenever you think it can't get worse, there's always Turkshit.
>>64786812Did any of those guns fire more than 20 rounds total? If so, they’re better than this potmetal piece of Chinkshit.
>>64786748>>64786739anon we all know you only like it because its an oddity.
I would love to own the current Chinese and Russian service pistolsHell isn't the current Russian one just a Glock clone?
The M17 is growing on me
>>64786827Pretty much everyone agrees that Turkshit shotguns are ass. But i hear /k/ope all the time that "Turkshit pistols are better than their shotguns". Would you accept the same /k/ope from me? >did my Turkshits last more than 20 rdsIdk prolly but i wasnt the one firing kek. I don't wanna lose my fingers or eyes in a country with third world healthcare. >>64786835Respectfully, I don't consider Norinco weapons an oddity when Norinco is one of the world's largest defense contractors. I do admit i love Norinco handguns because the AntiChrist hates it enough to ban it, yes. But it's also a great firearm. >>64786845Uncle Sam is so jealous of Chad Chinese Pingzhuen firearms that he banned them. It's the overpowered shit that gets banned, after all. If it makes Sam seethe, it must have some virtue.
>>64786877I still prefer euro made or designed handguns
>>64786879You're replying to a prohibited person.
>>64786879The beautiful thing about China is that they basically rip Euro designs and even improve em. Doesn't the Tokarev count as Euro design? China had the supreme idea to make it 9mm. Even if I'm wrong and someone else did it before them, China can into Euro designs. You must understand, Chinks are very high IQ people, they really do put Americans to shame in this regard. Probably because their public education system isn't a penitentiary for children. But i digress.
>China>Improve
>>64785158>EPS coreCan I slap.one on my rifle?
>>64785306>weird caliber like .30 SupercarryI could do weird, but more .32 HR Mag or .357 Sig for compact.
>>64786884>OY VEY THIS POSTER SAID HE'S AN ILLEGAL MANIAC WHO DID 9/11No need to seethe just because your weight is too high for the scale to read>>64786894Yes, improve. China improves the entire world by providing cheap consumer goods to all. Not only that, but China provides healthy competition, high IQ human beings, ancient wisdom, and countless other boons to humanity. Everyone who copes about muh Chinks literally just has low IQ.
>>64785329
>>64785480I've had Baja Blast and I don't like it. And I don't like your grips, either.
>Our resident brown pedophile is now simping for China like the other brownslol figures
>>64785970Fucking fence sitters everytime.
>>64786157You seem to be too stupid to understand this, as are some other anons. I'm not DEFENDING the Chinese, I am telling you fucking retards that your stupid MUH AMERICAN MADE larp is retarded because American companies don't give a fuck about you and most of the "made here" stuff is just assembled here from chinese made components anyway.
>>64786346It's not "pretty" it's cool.
>>64786908First of all, China is whiter than USA by a measure, and so is Espania. You're throwing bricks from a glass house, at a concrete fortress. Second of all, I'm not in the 'stein files, and I'm not Hebrew. Also i hate tranime. Therefore, i cannot be a p*dophile. I assure you that if i was attracted to kids, I would move to shithole Britain where I would have full protection of the government as I run around London molesting kids to my heart's content. >>64785583Nigga just buy a GP100. S&W is the Antichrist, as I've explained before. If I'm right, moloch servant jannies will nuke this post.
>>64786907The grip is gay, but Baja Blast is Baja Based
>IM WHITE ESE ARRIBA
>>64786910Or people who actually collect guns
>>64786917>because American companies don't give a fuck about youAlways remember that Chinese companies do give a fuck about you.
>>64786938>implyingWe. I have a 92 and 17 also, just not bookends.
>>64786934>56% still counts as whiteIt's funny because it's actually way less than 50 if you don't count me as white, jej>>64786941>wanting a company to care about you like a mother henIn USA, every company pretends to care, but everyone knows they only care about money. This is true everywhere, including China. Therefore, we need a new comparison paradigm. Mine is quite simple, really: I go by average IQ. Idk about you, anon, but i want my handgun manufactured by as high IQ of a person as possible, therefore I prefer Chinese manufacturing. If you have a better paradigm for comparison, I'd love to hear it.
Have you ever had such a good customer service experience with a handgun that you really did feel like the company cares?
After owning a chink SKS and a chink tokarev I can assure you guys the Chinese IQ is a lie. Bubba has less tool chatter.
>>64786961Bubba also has more IQ than any two ktards combined so
>>64786968You really are seething this morning huh sweaty
>>64786969Born to seethe, forced to cope.
>>64786862Because you're a person of low convictions and morals.
>>64786941See? You are so fucking stupid you immediately default to THE CHINESE DONT EITHER!!!!!@#@!@#@W@! I never said they did you fucking retard.Are you the eotech social media guy who has been crashing out over people roasting your fucking insane prices in the wake of shot show?
>>64785329Whatever i could pickpocket because apparently I'm not white
>exists
>AAAAAA THE AMERICANS ARE BULLYING ME SAVE ME CHINAMAN
Hey speaking of guns made in shithole countries, are there any Webley revolvers worth purchasing? I heard those things go off without a loicense, and that they have Pajeet-tier manufacturing quality
These arguments are stupid. Chinky optic: >good features>nice price>ok warranty>questionable customer service>decent reputation>you know you're rolling the dice on the chinks so no surprises if something happens"American" optic: >3-5 years behind on features for some reason>twice the price>better warranty>horribly mixed customer service experiences>reputation is either tards glazing it or people mad they spent a bunch of money and got delaminating junk>you think that you're buying American quality and durability, solidarity with your fellow American, and peace of mind, but you're still just rolling the dice like you did with the chinks because the American company is run by boomers and private equity kikes.I'm not going to buy American just because trump and anon told me to, you have to actually offer me something I think is worth the extra cost not just try to guilt me into supporting my fellow American and call me poor if I don't then to fuck me up the ass with quality issues.
>>64787010I love how you put American in quotes, because you know damn well it's actually made by jeets
>>64786959Heckler and Koch were cool>>64786981Well I actually shoot it, so..
What's in the holster? In an estate sale
>>64786959I once was interested in buying an old Smith so I copied the serial number down and called customer service for more information on it. They connected me to an actual American that knew his shit and he told me all about the gun and that model and that production range. I didn't end up buying it but it was a lovely conversation
>>64786290The hype died at launch because the magazines filter Glockattos like the 47 and 45 among other things [RXM, Dagger, et c]. I might actually be the only other Mec-Gar Glock anon in /hg/>No offenseNone taken because my G17.3 is practically featureless, kek
>>64787010Go ahead. Buy Chinese.
>>64786907OK
Anyone know if VP9 mags will fit in a VP9A1k? I don’t care if there’s overhang I think they sell stuff for that
>>64787311I'm gonna buy whatever I think is best suited for my needs, you insufferable sperging incel. Might be chinese, might be "british" (indian), might be "American" (assembled in America from chinese parts).
>>64786982>Are you the eotech social media guy who has been crashing out over people roasting your fucking insane prices in the wake of shot showWhy yes, the internet demographic consists entirely of that one arch nemisis of yours, just to personally vex you. Ahahahhaa!
>>64786951>If you have a better paradigm for comparison, I'd love to hear it.Hot chicks I want to fuck is my metric for company products to buy. This excludes the chinese.
>>64787327But is it really though?
I like this gun
>>64785101Buy nazi handguns instead!Jawohl mein Führer!Teething that gold off my salary btw.
>>64787001look for bsap stamped ones, they are rhodesian.mine never failed me, stuffed every ammo i got inside.
>>64787398Go ahead. Buy whatever you want anon.
>>64787465I like my Colt too but .45 is getting expensive
>>64786898You could but the window would be smaller than rifle optics.
>>64787438Absolutely, yes.
I will eventually succeed at this month's shooting challenge or die trying>>64786748>guess I'm running my BVLLdogYou'd be the first anon to have accomplished it with a revolver. I'm using an automatic and it's still kicking my ass, good luck!
>>64786748Arent you the guy who posts gay furry porn and is friends with a gay porn addict?
>>64787722That’s the gay porn addict, the gay furry is this guy >>64787492
>>64787715Neither the target nor drill align with any convention set forth by Stoeger
>>64787702>two targets have 5 holes>one target has 7pastebin... did you miss the target entirely and hit the other one?
>>64787951Shooting bad does not align with stoegerism, shooting good does. Perhaps consult the many tombs and repositories of knowledge he has bestowed upon us.
>>64787702I can't hate because you're actually trying and posting your failures. Good luck.>>64788113Stoecism*
>>64787726you are just jelly that the stuff in this pic>>64787492is worth more and way cooler than everything you own
>>64788195Thats a pathetically sad flex.
>>64788195Sorry I mistook you for the other faggot who posts his Nazi PPK (sickly weird gay faggot, literally talks about needing prep so he can have gay sex) but I might not be that off the mark.
>>64787999Checked>miss the target entirely and hit the otherThere was only ever one target downrange at a time>>64788113This is trick shooting [obscured stamps on envelopes] which requires the breaking of convention. You implied as much yourself the Sunday before last >>64746493>One handed shooting is honestly stupid faggot shootingI wonder if a frontal outline of Marina's vulva is ever visible in any of her photo albums>>64788121>Good luckThanks, anon! I'm doing to need it
>>64788274In a few of Stoeger’s drill videos he shows shooting one handed even on the move in mock stages, shooting one handed into a 6 inch box is hardly trick shooting and is basic competency. In stoecism or stoegerism (there might be a major schism because of this) you simply shoot one handed the same way you shoot two handed but with just one hand. I call it gay faggot shooting because the only people who seem to think one handed shooting is important is gay faggots.
Redpill me on the Ruger Security 6. Is it a good first revolver?
>>64788326>I call it gay faggot shooting because the only people who seem to think one handed shooting is important is gay faggots.lol, the resident twink talked about how important one handed shooting was for YEARS so he could LARP as a WWI soldier, and then as it turns out, the best two-handed shooters in these threads also happen to be the best one-handed shootersbig think
>>64788564He's a contradictory mess, I try not to think too much about what he does because its all to save face in the end. His caliber sperging about not even .380 but .32 being justasgood as 9mm only to end up shooting 44 special to spite 9mm chuds because muh stopping power was pathetic.
Alright James, I’ll fucking buy the new LTT
>>64788542>Is it a good first revolver?yes and noas a gun its fine nothing wrong with it specifically. on the otherhand is discontinued parts availability is crap ruger doesnt support it and wont repair it. if anything breaks your fucked. but thats true of a bunch of other not in current production guns. not unique to the security six.
what's the fucking point in pistol red dots on carry weapons? obviously it makes the footprint bigger, but that's not even the main stupid point. at self defense distances, you're literally just point shooting. if you can't hit a torso sized target at under a couple of yards years just point shooting, you probably shouldn't be allowed to own a pistol.
>>64788680Using a red dot effectively IS point shooting and you clearly don’t get it
>>64788684that's the entire point. no need for it. it's redundant. it's also ugly
>>64787658>but the window would be smaller than rifle opticsBut would that matter in a dark room on a Saturday night?
i've watched thousands of videos of people tanking 9mm mag dumps with the best defensive ammo to know that shot placement matters more than anything else therefore 380 and 5.7 are great handgun rounds unless you can't shoot for shit in which 9mm is still dogshit. I'm either going tiny or big ol 45, anything in between is just a waste of time.
>>64787715>>64787951Damn, Dann Bonaduci looks rough.
>>64788690You’re gay and stupid
>>64788680people dont want to put in the time and effort to learn to shoot. they want to buy skill. reddots do work for that to some degree.
If ironsfags actually put forth effort, they wouldn't be so consistently embarrassed by opticschads in these thread challengesAlas, ironsfags are too busy posting about "muh sovl" on 4chan to dry fire, SAD!
>>64788694Generally speaking it will be tougher to find when you present, except I think presenting on rifles is easier due to the extra point of contact. So it shouldn't really matter, you just might prefer to have a bigger window just because you can. If anything the AEMS macro would be more suited, but these are all close to the cost of the actual AEMS meant for rifles.
>>64785583I don't understand why they put the lock in any of their classic line guns. F them. I ordered a model 60 and when it got to the FFL they broke all the seals in front of me. This thing came directly from the factory with a trigger and hammer that were both flopping around loose. 0 chance any QA ever touched the gun. Remember when every gun you bought used to come with an empty casing they had test fired? Batch testing guns is not OK. Batch testing guns is not OK. Batch testing guns is not OK. Batch testing guns is not OK. Batch testing guns is not OK. Do not buy from Smith and Wesson.
>>64785627>>64785718So does it have a firing pin block or not?
>>64787465No chinese, so it's trash
Okay, I've been out of the loop for a while. Someone tell me how much I'm misunderstanding the idea of a 2011.>9mm double stack thing with design elements from the 1911>frequent features include polymer frames, ported/compensated barrels, optics cuts, and wacky slide serrations, and usually frame rails>very fiddly about what ammo they run reliably with>no standardization, no part from any one 2011 is interchangeable with a part from any other, not even magazines>costs a minimum of $3000Why the hell are these things selling so well that there's a zillion manufacturers making them all over SHOT show? Is it just because they're all made to ultra tight tolerances and are thus super accurate?
>>64788934>tell me how much I'm misunderstanding the idea of a 2011A lot>Why the hell are these things selling so wellShoot one and find out
>>647889342011s at the minimum are like 600. Tisas/MAC, and some other mystery meat brands are that low.They aren’t just 9mm. Personally I think the problem that plagued 2011s is that they were designed to fire >9mm>.38 super >.40>.45 >10mm>9x21 Winchester >etcAll from the same frame and magazine size. If they made the gun around 9mm instead of all the calibers then a lot of the issues would have been avoided. 2011s aren’t that finicky anymore, the magazines were the weak link and have greatly improved in recent years. Frames are either steel or aluminum. The grips are modular and can be steel, aluminum, or polymer. There are a few polymer double stack 1911s but they never conformed to the greater 2011 pattern. 2011 isn’t “double stack 1911” it’s a specific pattern of double stack 1911 that uses a 2 piece frame where the grip comes off and can be replaced. 2011s are very interchangeable, they’re literally 1911s with a different frame, trigger bow, and magazine/magazine release. All other parts are the same. There’s different patterns for more proprietary parts like the style of external extractor if they use one. Kimber vs Staccato vs Infinity etc. but you could always just use a new slide if you wantAll the wacky features like windows, crazy serrations, etc are race gun features boiling down to consumer guns, it’s across the entire gun market. People want race gun features, like comps, gas pedals, light triggers.
>>64788968yo this ngl out here burgerking
>>64788934single action triggers are hard to fuck up. Ecelebs have grown fond of this particular style of single action trigger. That's it.
>>64788991What a stupid fucking contrarian thing to say. A raped slave mentality.
>>64788994nah. All other characteristics of a 2011 are irrelevant if their average trigger were any less so than they are. I like them, but let's be real. Their primary driver is the trigger.
>>64789029No. You see something becoming popular since they’re becoming more affordable and better and then screeched “ecelebs” like a sexually abused dog. 2011s have been a thing for 30 years now, double stack 1911s even longer like the para ordinance. They are the preferred gun of competition shooters, often you have to pay (sponsor) them to shoot something else.
>>64789029You have never touched a 2011 in your life, why are you talking about them?
For people that buy ammo online, where are you buying from? I've been shooting so much lately (moved to a neighborhood with a gun range across the street) and that $0.25-0.26 for a 9mm round seems hefty compared to what I've seen online. **Not interested in reloading - my bench space is taken up by my shotgun stations.**
>>64788934heres the thing 2011 was not a generic gun. it was one company tripp research making them then they rebranded into sti. eventually turns into staccato fairly recently. anyways somebody quit sti and formed svi/infinty and they start making 2011s in the 90s.then years later theres a bunch of fuckers making 2011 pattern guns.anyways the original 2011were good and as more companies started ripping it off and improving it stuff stopped being compatible.
>>64789054Velocity Ammo Sales SGammoFree shipping over 200 dollars which is a single case of ammo, I buy 3-4 at once. Poor UPS man. 25cpr isn’t terrible but you could be at 20 cpr at the very lowest I’ve seen.
>>64789071One of the patent holders of the 2011 quit and formed SVI infinity. They were sister companies since STI was for poors and the SVI was focuses on upscale and bespoke race guns. They’ve gone insane with guns as an art bullshit
>>64789054Target Sports
>>64789053>>64789048Sorry, my opinion of 2011's is simply that they exist. You can relax, lol.
I'm getting a tisas 1911, does it take any regular 1911 mags or do they have to be a specific type? It's my first gun other than a glock 17.
>>64789094For 1911s there is different magazines for different ammo, and within that different brands that do things slightly differently. It’s a 1911ism that certain guns (even within the same model) will prefer certain brand magazines (different brands = different magazine follower design basically). The popular magazines are Wilson Combat mags, Chip McCormick mags, Tripp mags, and metal form mags. MecGar too I guess. I use Wilson combat mags, they go on 50% off sales sometimes or buy one get one free. For FMJ (normal range ammo) most magazines are fine but I had a .45 Tisas that refused to feed JHP (defensive ammo) from a 8 round magazine and only would do it from 7 round magazine no matter the brand. They can be picky since there is so many variables.
>>64789054AmmoseekHonestly, I just wait until Burt or someone mentions a sale/deal on a site and buy then
>>64789112Different caliber mags. Also officer mags are shorter and cannot work in government/commander guns. Government 5 inch / commander 4.25 inch use the same magazines.
>>64789112it's a .45acp, bare bones model. Comes with an 8rd mag so it says.
1911 manufacturers lost the plot
>>64788871https://youtube.com/shorts/cQPQKtAmFkI
>>64789054Reloading is difficult to make economic sense of vs on-sale-buy-in-bulk. Components are not as cheap as they used to be. Reloading is for saving on inherently expensive cartridges or having precise hand loads.
>>64789081Damn, thanks anon. Solid ass pricing.
>>64789172>>64789115Cheers fellas.
>>64788968>going to two different goyslop troughs for one meal>these are the animals who talk filth about my wristsLOL, fuckin fat little BLOB!!!!
>>64789172It depends on what you shoot, 9mm is not worth to reload because it uses same components as more expensive ammo.
>>64789197How many pictures like this do you have? Can I see a screenshot of your "blurry picture of my gloved hand holding a handgun" folder? I'll provide you with a blurry picture of my gloved hand holding a handgun in return if you do.
>>64789208Yes and anon is talking about 9mm hence my comment about "saving on inherently expensive rounds" capt. obvious.
New Shadow Systems gun with half an inch more slide travel than a normal Glock, chassis construction with modular grip panels, different trigger system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwK-scHMgSQmite b cool
>>64789197>nigger gloves strikes again
Is the S&W Shield X too thin?
>>64789424Yeah
>>64789054Various vendors, usually those aggregated by ammoseek, many of which already listed by anons. Here's my filtered bookmark, limited to conditional free shipping, brass case only, and removing as much Turkish ammo by name as possible (ran out of room so some remain). Each site shows their free shipping minimum threshold, and unfortunately the ones with retarded minimums like $800 have taken over the top of the list. But just scroll past them.https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger?sh=lowest&co=new&ca=brass&ekw=k7%20bps%20republ%20lax%20sterl%20ytr%20scorp%20maxxtech%20ATS%20turan%20x-for%20mesk%20igman%202a%20zsr%20panthThe 20.8c Armscor at the top is an okay deal. That's crap ammo but it goes bang if you don't have a super light hammer spring. The first reputable deal on quality ammo I see is S&B at 22cpr from Maryland Munitions. You'll have to add something more to meet minimum free shipping of $250.tl;dr I don't see any stellar deals at the moment, but I check this bookmark daily and I browse forums like ar15.com where people also post deals
>>64788326>simply shoot one handed the same way you shoot two handedIt's a sound theory, especially with a lower and narrower grip angle likes yours. I'll keep at it>>64788700Heh>>64788731dude weed lmao
does anyone make p365 slides that arent cringe as fuck? norsso, zaffiri are beyond cringe. sig factory site just wants you to buy slides with optics installed. i just want a plain jane p365 slide to pair with an xl grip i have. any suggestions welcome.
>>64789785Maybe check out True Precision and Mischief Machine
Im thinking of getting an RXM with a cylee wolf 2 stig-rs optic as my first pistol. the red dot sight has astigmatism relief.thoughts?
>>64790080Have actually went to a gun store and finger-fucked any guns yet or are you just meta-gaming?
>>64790093i tried but they did not have the rxm at the time, they were sold out. i have played with my brother tan gen 4 glock and my friends smith and wesson mp 2.0. my closest gun store has a threaded barrel model on sale for just an extra 50 bucks msrp
>>64790101What about other guns? Are you on a budget?
>>64790080What made you decide on the RXM?
>>64790080Get the tactical RXM with all of the bells and whistles.That optic sounds gay and fucking retarded you want a threaded barrel and an optics cut.The RXM has all sorts of stupid cerkote too get a neat color.
After reading picrel, I suppose a .22 caliber handgun isn't a viable self defense option.
Hi /k/. I am a huge novice to owning firearms, and am now a first time owner myself. I have decent shooting and handling experience since growing up as an American teenager lulz, but I've never owned.Here's the gun I purchased, and some questions:>S&W BODYGUARD 2.0 CC 380 12+1 TS PERFORMANCE CENTER CARRY COMPThe questions:>Does CC stand for concealed carry?>What does TS Performance Center Carry Comp Mean?Also, can someone please recommend a very stealthy and safe pocket carry holster? Thank you all. Pic of my first pew pew being shipped :)
>>64790080>RXM with a cyleeBased. Great bang for your buck with both.
>>64790111I have an ar 15 and I 3d printed a mac 11.>budgetI should be on a budget as ive heard taurus is reliable and can be had around 300 bucks but god blessed me with a credit card and no sense of financial responsibility>>64790120when i heard about the glocks being discontinued i almost panicked bought but after some research and thread browsing came to the realization that glocks were overpriced, ill never buy a switch so whats the point and there are millions floating around. that and i could just print a frame and buy an upper kit.people kept bringing up the rxm in glock threads at the time and i did some research and i think its not a bad gun. to me the rxm it has everything a glock has with upgrades such as the optics cut, high iron steel sights, it is a chassis system so maybe in the future they will release some kind of pdw system for it. to me its a glock clone of the nicer variety and the upgrades it has justifies the 100-150 upsell compared to other glock clones. im probably just going to keep it at home or put in in my waistband/backpack should i ever feel the need to carry it into a sketchy area.personally, if i were to carry id probably carry something small chambered in .380 or a subcompact 9mm with no sights that i would point instead of really aiming down. ive been threatened by retarded boomers at work and started bring a knife to work because they threatened to fight me because i would not humor their entitled behavior.>>64790155>that optic sounds gaymost optics are made in china, if it works it fine by me
>>64790161Cyelee is based. I own one. Burt has two.
So are the M11 and Mk25 also victims of Sig's current faggotry? I've always liked them but IDK about getting one from current year Sig and I don't want to buy used.
>>64790161Cylee is a weird optic to sell on a pistol, the threaded barrel will save you a solid $120 or whatever down the line and the neat Trump/punisher skull branding or OD green will make you feel good desu under $600 for that range package or whatever is a deal.
>>64790165>>64790170i own a sig sauer romeo 7s for my ar15 and a holosun 403b on my mac11, my brother got the cylee t10 on his ar15. my sig sauer gives me very little astigmatism flare compared to the holosun and cylee.
>>64790177>astigmatism flareAfter I got Lasik the difference was wild for me. My EO Tech reticle went from blurry to crisp.
>>64790158CC stands for Carry Comp, a S&W marketing term for the port added to the barrel and slide to combat muzzle rise. TS is Thumb Safety, it's optional on the BG2.0. Performance Center is S&Ws "performance" division. For a pocket holster look at options from Vedder, DeSantis, and Sticky.
Am I retarded for wanting to buy a colt mustang or sig p938 to carry instead of a double stack striker
>>64790396They point well and 7 shots of 9mm is still good. Its gonna be overall slimmer too so easier to conceal.
>>64790396Yes. A CSX-E is basically the same size with twice the capacity.
>>64790465>slimmer tooThey are shorter but slimmer is a misconception. The whole thing that makes the double stack micro 9 class so great is that they are as slim as all but the slimmest single stacks. Pic related, P938 vs P365 size comparison.
>>64790396>hay there contrarian wannabe-fudd pistol general, should i buy [Obscure discontinued gun] or [Modern, sensible gun]?what do you think dude?
>>64790787Slimmer than a striker double stack.
>>64790192Enjoy your eye flap
>>64790878They're literally the same width.
>>64785088Well now i got a problem, I cant find 12 round mags anywhere. Does hkparts restock anywhere? Or do i have t o buy 10 round mags?
>>64790928P365 is a 1.5 stack. Anon said double stack. No I dont care what Sig calls a 1.5 stack. Also single stacks taper way more and feel a lot slimmer than even a 1.5 stack in the hand because its less blocky.
>>64789730That's not even me take your meds you bvckbroken clown. This new captcha might just make me actually quit this shithole frfr, at least until a solver script starts to work
>>64790958Good to know the low IQ brown filter is working.
>Start re-watching Hickock45's revolver videos>start getting the desire to buy more .357 revolvers and ammo again
>>64790157It is because if you shoot the body, they'll actually bleed out. While it may take 10 shots to actually make someone drop dead, landing even a few gets the job done. Think of it as applying a bleed status effect. Aim for the chest with a 22, or the stomach. Pin cushion their lungs. They'll be dead before they realize. A 22 revolver holds like 12+ shots.
>>64790157A weak 22 gets stopped by bone. The proper way to seppuku with a 22 is to aim for arteries. You'll be dead in minutes
>>64790988Great if you want to kill someone. Not so great if you want to immediately stop a threat that is trying to kill you.
>1.5 stackcuriously, p365 mags are thicker than BDM (I wish it would fit, or fucking anything else really)
>>64790995It honestly works fine, just aim for the neck, heart, and kidneys as well as other vital organs. Not bone like skull or rib cage, but soft tissue. A human can lose all their blood very quickly from a small wound to the body. Give em the Kirk/ICE neck special, it'll be ogre in a minute
>>64791017Most of the vital organs that would take the immediate fight out of someone require bone breaking hits to effectively strike. You better aim well.
>>64790938It's a double stack you stupid nigger
>>64791042Its always the uninformed that are the rudest. Its a 1.5 stack. Its not a traditional double stack.
>>64790935I assume this is for the USP 45?
>>64791042>btfo>>64791075Well played, my good man. Quality blowing the fuck out, there old chap.
>>64790924This only matters for fighter pilots and astronauts.
>>64790396No, you're not. You won't be shooting anone anyway. You can carry a Sig P230, if you want to. Might even look better, which is all that matters, unless you are killing people.
>>64788787>AEMS macro>MSRP$447.05Hell, at that point I might as well slap on a Trij.
>>64790935Hkparts are Jews and have nothing to do with hk. I believe at one point they got into big trouble since they bought up the entire supply of P7s or something to scalp
>>64789730> especially with a lower and narrower grip angle likes yours. I'll keep at Nothing but excuses man. There is no reason for you not to get one of the many crutches you accuse people of having like >better grip angle>better trigger >better sights >red dot
>>64791115> as well slap on a Trij.Good.
>optomized trigger bar set to arrive right before big freezeThank you Langdon
>>64791196You better buy his new exclusive LTT Elite II. Interesting they didn’t call it the Elite IV or something. IIRC he was involved or had input in the original Elites since he was shooting for Team Beretta when they were developed.
>>64791149>There is no reason for you not to get oneIt takes six to ten months to iron out kinks post-launch and I haven't seen /hg/ endorse Gen6 yet>>64790958Oh
>>64791115They're like $300 via distributors so it's highly unlikely they will be going for $450. The X3 407s are like $20 more than the normal ones. It's over for American optics. Trijicon is charging $300 for the feature.
>>64785329FNX45. God damn that thing is a laser even with my dogshit shooting.
>>64791385Nothing is stopping you from getting a gun today with all the things you whine about being crutches and prove is wrong.
>>64791075It's double stack, nigger. How many rows are there? two. double stack. It's not 1.5 rows, it's 2
>>6479160880 IQ post
Were any sights announced at Shotshow that are worth holding onto my money for? Besides that one for the Shield. I need to pick up a couple of red dots, but I don't know if I should wait or just buy something if I notice a sale.
>>64789785There is a site that sells custom P365 slides but they ran out of stock last year. I emailed the shop in the middle of December and they sent me back an email saying that they were working on building up their stock to hopefully put shit back on there at the end of January or end of February depending on things. They are called Maskas Precision. If you just want a blank or something, send them an email and see if they will sell you one.
>>64791620Do you really think that a Glock has two rows but a P365 doesn't? Retard. Falling for jeet marketing speak
>>64791624Holosun EPS core, AEMS micro, AEMS macro, 407c X3, 507 pro max. Eotech EXPS3 HD, Vudu 4-12x compact or some shit like that name is forgettable it's a compact 4-12x. Nothing else noteworthy. The Holosuns are worth waiting 1 month for, there's listings for distributors already so I'm guessing they are launching soon. Eotech you'd probably need to wait for summer if not longer due to availability.
>>64785329A sling.
>>64791608>2 OVERLAPPING rows>>64791620It's a math thing, some people are disabled by math. Fractions can be defeating, even humiliating, and they will lash out in anger.
>>64791690Missed your appointment at the learing center I see
What is the difference better 1.5 stack and double stack magazines, really? Given that they are both single feed, typically.
>>64791767>What is the difference betterIs this a new ebonics thing? Does this come from midnight basketball?
>>64791780No, it was mean to be "between", but the phone keyboard decided otherwise.
>>64791723>It's all Holosun all the way down God damn.
>>64791767IMO nothing. They’re both double stack. “1.5 stack” is a meaningless marketing term
New look, same seam.
>>64791787It's grim but they mogged everyone this year. Good for me as a consumer though, now there are enclosed optics with auto bright that will actually work right.
>>64791767The original idea is that the "1.5" stack magazines would slowly taper outwards into a double stack, and be essentially single stack until a little ways down. This slower taper meant that the top of the magazine was slimmer, and could make for a slimmer "receiver" and ergo a slimmer gun. The nomenclature of "1.5 stack" is definitely marketing wank, but it's hard to argue with the results, because the P365/Hellcat/et alia are VERY slim, far thinner than the double stack compacts that preceded them.
>>64791831It's so close to perfection
>>64791859It's just, in the past, guns were steel framed, so there were two layers of thick useless material on both sides of magazine, and then grips made of human-friendly materials like wood, plastic, or rubber were screwed to that part of the gun, so the entire length of those grip screws, on both sides, would contribute towards the girth of the grip. This was OK for single stack magazines but completely intolerable with double stack. Plastic guns put the end to that asinine design but out of inertia, kept grips about the same size. It is a mystery how in the wake of single stack carry 9, at first, everyone except kel-tec failed to notice that double stack magazines are not very thick at all, and it is the rest of the gun that needed to be optimized for carry.
1.5 is objectively a great idea and makes single vs double stack arguments moot but only a handful of carry guns take advantage of it with basically all of them being poly strikers.
>>64791938I just want beretta or hk to do a DA/SA 1.5 stack and it not to have a bad factory trigger
>>64789197It is well known that Bort is a Fat Fuck. He still has more guns in his home and more gun knowledge than you, that is also well known
>>64791831I don't like it.But what about this?Or this?
>>64792046Bottom is good>you'll never had the carry handle revolver
>>64792046The bottom one but the ability to put custom letters inside, including slurs.
>>64792046This but add a rail on the top of the barrel doe a super low red dot mount cowittness with irons, I’ve seen rhinos custom machined with optics I think (fever dream maybe).
>>64792046FAMAS revolver
>>64791808>“1.5 stack” is a meaningless marketing termNo. 1.4672948 stack is meaningless. 1.5 stack makes sense and has a mathematical feng shui.
>>64791865Better get that trademarked before Glock sues you.
>>64792017The reality is that the 1.5 stack magazine isn’t actually thinner than a true double stack magazine. Last I checked a P365 mag is just the same width as a 92 mag. It’s spring and follower shit that puts more rounds in the mag. Like how MecGar was able to make 18-19 round 92 mags the same size as the 15 round OEM mag. You can’t get around making a super slim DA/SA with a double stack magazine, it’s impossible due to the mechanics of DA/SA. SAO is possible. DAO is possible. Not DA/SA.
>>64792057
>>64792219Burt, do you know how much of a real-world downgrade it is for these new "Core" models using 6061 instead of 7075? The Core models look cool, but the material change has me a little bit worried. The AEMS-Core uses 6061, I'm not sure about the Micro, because the Specifications page is broken on the Holosun site.
>AEMS Micro is compatible with Acro mountThey're calling the footprint "AEMS Micro" but apparently it's based on Acro, just a little shorterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdMhzE6TeXY&t=152sAlso, the EPS Core has apparently switched to a true Shield RMSc pattern, not the Holosun K footprint specified for other K models. It's listed as such on the webzone, but I'll withhold logging the info until I see a pic of the bottomhttps://www.holosun.com/products/pistol-sights/eps-core/eps-core-rd3.html
>>64792238>>64792237
>>64791764Dumb motherfucker thinks marketing bullshit means something. They're double stack. Always have been, always will be.
>>64792237I can only guess, but because micro 9s are typically so much lighter than full size duty pistols, a drop on top likely wouldn't be worse off because of the material. You can make anything strong if it's thick enough, and the EPS design being enclosed makes it inherently stronger than open emitter designs. If you want to worry before SageDynbaminks destroys one to prove it, spend another $50 or whatever on the regular EPS, but I don't think it'd matter much if at all, all other things being equal (by which I mean if you did two exactly identical drops with both materials). But remember that even Acros can break when dropped and they are 7075, and I think the 509T cracked a corner and that's titanium.
>>64792106Kek, thanks Burt.>>64792238I told you this yesterday btw. I'm pretty excited about these new optics, going to test them on the one rmsc cut guns I have and pick which one I like better. Probably going on my winter and summer carries.
>>64792259>marketing bullshit means something>a government of the people>by the people>and for the people You probably think your taxes don't get funneled straight to Joe Biden's shell company.
>>64792295>get btfo by even sig calling it a double stack before the "1.5" marketing term came out>start rambling about /pol/ shit and taxesGet the fuck out retard.
DO NOT BUY THESE CHINK OPTICSThank you for your attention
>>64792293Please post pic of EPS Core upskirt when you get it!
>>64792259This is how it looks on Sig web site and >>64791767 is how it actually looks in real life.
>>64792317Call us when good US made optic drops for $270 msrp
>>64792274Hmm, I wonder if I should check out a ProMax. It’s still 7075, and, from what I gather, is just a 507 Comp with backup solar, a sun visor, and a marginally larger window.
>>64792342The pictures were taken from different angles you fucking dumbass.
>>64792352Let me see it from the backside
>>64792360That's what she said.
ITT anon demonstrates he cannot rotate the apple in his head by failing to understand that P365 mags lean forward and taper down from back to front.
>>64792352Which angles are different, something on Sig's marketing images?
>>64792046>Made it actually resemble a rhino Bravo bort, ghisoni would be proud
>>64792386The image you see here: >>64792259 is taken with the baseplate flat on a table and the camera looking at the front of the mag, the flat surface on the back of the mag is not parallel to the image plane. The image you see here >>64791767 is taken with the mag body flat on the table and the image plane parallel to the back of the body of the magazine.The magazine LEANS FORWARD. If you look at it laying down it looks different than it does standing up. Do you also think the cows in the field are really small, not just far away?
>>64788202>>64788234
>>64792398Ok this is starting to make sense, just a bit tedious to line up. This is them standing on base plates, with bullets to line up. Are "1.5 stack" magazines just the ones that lean more? I thought it's a grip angle thing and even before, double stack magazines had different angles.
Was there ever a factory variant of M&P2.0 both cut for an optic and still using the old hinged-trigger?
18+1 rd @ 10yd, IPSC: radical exposure therapy to live fire indoors and function test of Mec-Gar magazine [all 19 strikes visible]>>64791542>getting a gun today with all the thingsI must first demonstrate proficiency before advancing to a superior weapon
>>64792438"1.5 stack" is just a marketing term for "slim double stack". They are literally just thin wall metal double stack magazines in thin wall grips. There aren't transparent versions of them like this because they're built to be as thin as possible, but if you look in They aren't halfway between single and double stack, they aren't some weird variation of feed, at the most they (micro 9 magazines) taper down a little earlier than old double stack guns to allow more room in the upper area of the grip for trigger mechanism parts without making the grip thicker. The closest thing to "1.5 stack" that actually exists is the G43X which still uses Glock's extra thick plastic coated magazines and staggers the rounds a little more than most single stacks for a little more capacity but staggers them nowhere near as much as most double stacks. Give me a bit and I will post pictures of a G19 15rd mag and a Hellcat 15 rd mag, loaded, side by side, to show you that "1.5 stack" micro 9s are literally just double stack guns with a marketing name. The magazines are very close in size, the Hellcat magazine is just thinner.
>>64792507Shut the fuck up you lying faggot you're never gonna buy another handgun or shoot that handgun enough to outcompete the people you're trying to get one up on here let alone get your glock cut for an optic or anything. You spent 2 months hyping up a sidegrade swap of irons.
>>64792317Fuck MIGA. Not gonna buy inferior shit for a 2x markup.>>64792319Will do. Hopefully they're in stock next week and I can get my hands on one by Feb.
>>64792511>taper down a little earlier than old double stack guns to allow more room in the upper areaThat is actually noticeable, and might be the biggest difference. Top of p365 mag is thin enough to fit in the fcu opening between its side walls, much smaller than the rest of the mag. Maybe that's the 1.5 stack idea, single stack on the top, double on the bottom.
So now we have to say Double Stack or Double Stack*, great. This is why we just called them all 1.5 for the sake of differentiation.
>>64792560double stack plus premium limited edition
>>64790958>cucked and deballed by JanniesI told you they were fingering your asshole. How embarrassing.
>>64792594You know if he had the intelligence to solve the captcha right now he'd be pretty mad at you.
>>64792507What brand of OO buck were you shooting? Here I was testing Winchester Super X and Fiocchi Defense Dynamics which were both the same price
>>64792583>plus premium limited editionOh yes, and Sig wants $60 for those premium high tech magazines now.
>>64792607We should start photoshopping wadding holes into targets of anons who need more practice.
>>64792617It’s such an incredibly mean thing to do
>>64792511Here, side by side, a Hellcat and G19 15 rounder, baseplates flat on my desk. They're a few mm different in height, and most of that is due to the fact that the hellcat has a different grip angle (Glock is more upright). They even start tapering at almost the same spot. If you removed all of the plastic from the outside of the Glock magazine they'd be barely any different. The front of the Hellcat mag is just a little more aggressively tapered.>>64792560Calling them slimline guns or something would be more sensible than "1.5 stack" which makes it sound like the magazines are more different than they are.
>>64792607Short barreled shotgun or 25 yards from the target?>>64792529Not trying to compete with anyone, I'm practically just a beginner>hyping up a sidegrade swapSo that's what this is really about for you– dredging up the past. As if Burt's silent disdain for me isn't enough of a reminder
At least Pastebin doesn’t lie about his targetsThat’s more than we can say about some certain posters here
>>6479267410 yards with a 18 inch barrel, modified cylinder
>>64792688I bully pastebin to make him stronger. I bully the one you're talking about because he deserves it. I always try to encourage pastebin to be better because I think he can eventually be a good poster unlike the faggot.
>>64792688I actually don't mind Sgt., he's alright - he's at least earnest in his pursuits. The other poster is irredeemable, and only seeks to troll here.
>>64785970I like your guns.
Holster is TIGHT and the slide serrations scratch off some kydex on the draw. It's a TRex arms IWB how loose can you go with the screws on these?
>>64793330Is it 2 screw or 3 screw? 2 screw means retention adjustment means you back out the two screws that hold your holster together. 3 screw means two screws are fixed and the 3rd is for adjustment
>>64793414I've had holsters work fine with one screw. Subcompact IWB holsters tend to have only one due to space constraints.
>>64785088>>64793556>>64793556>>64793556>>64793556
>>64788934>9mm double stack thing with design elements from the 1911They used to come in .40 (for competition shooters) and 10mm (for hunters and collectors), but all the competition shooters eventually switched to the 9mm ones. >frequent features include polymer frames, ported/compensated barrels, optics cuts, and wacky slide serrations, and usually frame railsLika all race guns.>very fiddly about what ammo they run reliably withI generally haven't seen this problem from good 2011.>no standardization, no part from any one 2011 is interchangeable with a part from any other, not even magazinesYou'll run into this issue with every design made by multiple companies except the AR-15. No one complains that an AK brand have parts not interchangeable with different AK.>costs a minimum of $3000They are a lot less than that; you can find a cheap one for less than $1k and a good one for $1k-1.5k nowadays.>>64790396No, you are not retarded for that. You are weird for making a big deal about it though.
So this year will be my trial by fire arc>>64792715>18 inch barrelATF is now permitting people to chop those without a fee, that would increase spread for free
>>64788934>"costs a minimum of $3,000>posts a gun you can find for less than $1,20010/10
>>64792913>>64792837Why is trolling on 4chan considered such a sin? Cheese pizza gets posted on pol every fucking day, jannies are bought and paid for, and you only give a fuck about some trolls.
>>64790964That's NOT nice. You know it's funny, I mention I had a captcha solver script here, and in like 2 weeks they did the captcha overhaul
>>64793964It's not allowed on blue boards, retard. Go to /b/ or /pol/ if you want the immature retard experience.
>>64794064Oh yeah because you ktards are matureJajajaja mature in retardation
>>64794139you have no balls faggot lol
