>>64823651
Desert Storm kino

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How do I ask my recruiter out? She is really cute and has this dainty voice that makes me diamonds.

>>64823807
Ohhhh, you've done it now...

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>Day 2,921 of Robert posting the same lame fucking memes into a thread that nobody reads
Robert could probably be a pro-body builder with this level of dedication, but instead his efforts are spent on being a fucking loser memelord griping about shit that happened almost a decade ago.

>>64823651
how do i become 160th soar

>>64823651
I'm in the background check process for Border Patrol and it's been like 2 months and I want to move on with my life. Should I join the Coast Guard or wait it out?

>>64825145
get ready to wait another 6 months

>>64825145
>Should I join the Coast Guard or wait it out?
The background check process for the military will be roughly the same amount of time.

I am in the Air Force DEP at the moment and I have a security clearance interview coming up. How was everyone else's security clearance interview? I read that they go through what you put for your SF-86 but that was months ago and I had to assemble it it in a hurry so I may not even remember some crucial details.

Army HPSP here, happy to answer questions about what its like getting medical school through the military. Dental and vet are pretty much the same.

>t. unironically Dr. Schlomo come May

>>64825651
I asked a recruiter about joining in September he said they could have me in boot camp in January if I got MEPs done

I'm waiting to get medical cleared, still don't have a physical scheduled, I'm probably not gonna get shipped out before at least next year, am I?

And that's if I don't get straight up disqualified anyway...

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>>64823651
>/meg/ Military Enlistment General
the u.s. marine corps is built on unnecessary stress for no added benefit:
>wear winter-weight nyco twill in the jungle & desert
>can't wear cammies off base
>sperg out when seeing other branches wearing camo off base
>have to be clean shaven when on leave
>cool guy schools only open to marsoc/raiders
>cnd adsep, no misconduct? general discharge.
>medical separation due to busted back & knees? general discharge.
>granted permission to separate early due to being accepted into a prestigious academic fellowship? general discharge.
>granted permission to separate early due to parents death? general discharge.
>granted permission to separate early due to winning multi-millions lotto? general discharge.
>complete your service and separate on time with no misconduct? general discharge.
>retirement? general discharge.
>back & knees too busted post-service to be active in a well-regulated militia
>every sign on base is painted red, activating a primal level of unnecessary stress daily
>"once a marine always a marine" is literal fanfiction that doesn't even grant any special "marine" honorific under u.s. code title 10 nor title 38 to non-retired marine veterans
>MCMAP useless in a fight of junior enlisted infantry vs domestic teenage civilians
most marines leave service much worse off than when they went in.

>>64825668
NTA but is anyone going to answer this? I'm worried about mine too.

>>64826394
>most marines leave service much worse off than when they went in.
which is why this thread recommends the CG, AF and Space Force.

>>64826142
Probably

>>64823803
Okay, I won't. >>64827611

Robert is in the Epstein files.

>>64826802
What's there to worry about?

>>64828035
being pop quizzed on personal details of my life maybe? dont know what else.

>>64828392
Why worry about that? They're mostly going to ask for clarification on any issued with your answers. For example, when I did mine, I had a brain fart and accidentally marked on my sf86 that I was still in high school despite having graduated 5 years previously. The interviewer was basically like "this was a mistake right?" and I was like "yeah my bad I'm kinda retarded" and we both laughed and moved on. No reason to worry unless you're an actual terrorist or foreign spy.

The bongland military has a reserve SAS and Para unit. I'm not gonna join them but, I think it's cool they exist

Is the coast guard hard to join? I don't want to waste my time driving 45 mins to an hour if it will be a waste/long time to join.

>>64829103
Dude. I had to drive 1 hour back and forth 6 times just to join the Army and not the Marines who were in spitting distance from me. Choose wisely and dont choose the most convenient option.

The ANG I'm interested in has a drone unit, and it's in the boonies, it seems, so I'd have to plan around it.
Is there a chance at AGR if I get a spot?

Should I shave my beard before talking with a recruiter? Also the US military no beard policy is antiquated and retarded.

>>64830236
You owe recruiters nothing. I went to the Army recruiter with hair to my shoulders.

>>64830236
They are unconcerned with standards because thats not their job, they want to get you in, and they know you will be made to conform to the standards later.

>>64829103
cg ship dates are usually like 6 months out.
army is what you join if you gotta join fast. maybe navy too, no clue there.
marines are kinda slow to ship. their bread and butter seems to be high schoolers.
air force is a mix. some people ship oddly quick.

How long does MEPS usually take to review submitted docs?
I got all my docs for my waivers about a month ago AND went for a scheduled consult and my recruiter says they still havent updated my status or looked at my docs.
I got my job reserved for March (was planning on leaving then) but I dont know if I will get to sign a contract before then. What do?

>>64826394
>back & knees too busted post-service to be active in a well-regulated militia
My personal opinion, rifleman in the National Guard is the best choice for anons that want to do this.
Not even in the sense of "the National Guard IS the militia" meme that some people ignorantly spout, but -
>same initial training as US Army infantry
>your body will have time to recover between drill periods
>can take care of yourself to a non military standard when not drilling or called up
>you'll presumably do a lot of your field training in your home state
>that means so will your platoon buddies that you can network with
>if you do deploy overseas, more likely to be to a "combat zone" than plenty of active duty Army and Marine units
Also, a big perk is - unless I'm mistaken, you'll know what battalion you're joining up with. So, you'll know if they're good or ass.

>>64830847
I always wondered, why do we ship off NG to deployments? It seems counter intuitive to send them instead of active duty guys.
If a NG Batallion starts taking heavy losses, it might take them years to recover the manpower compared to an active duty batallion.
Active duty guys cant really deployment dodge as easy either and have more field experience by default so why do they send NG?

>>64831168
Deployments provide excellent experience, so it gives NG a chance to develop experience that isn't really possible here. The difference between learning and doing.

can someone drop the discord link pls? or add me instead: drowsee1387

tl;dr old account got locked because discord 2fa is bootycheeks

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>>64831754
Did someone say bootycheeks?

What's a typical day like in the army? Does it vary between branch in terms of how busy you are? I'd like a rundown of your schedule.

>>64831754
>giving groomercord/pedocord/der 'cord/spywarecord your phone number
total OPSEC fail.

Were there any cases of people here thinking they wouldn't fit in to military life but ended up loving it?

>>64832271
Spergs who think the military is for boneheads find out that its really the single most autistic organization ever devised.

>>64831846
That is such a broad question. Depending on what your MOS is, your day to day life can vary wildly.

>Let them talk me into an 11x Op40
>33
>Oh shit nigger what are you doing?
Something doesn't add up. I thought they were supposed to push 18x on us old guys.

>>64833195
RASP is just way easier than SF training. Not to say its easy, you know what I mean. Two different worlds.
Best time to join SF is 25-35. You should be in great shape to go to either RASP or go 18x.

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Any British paras here? how fit do you have to be to pass Reserve P coy?

Occasional reminder that Ramstein is the most overrated base in the entire US military

Should I tell my recruiter not to call my mom because I know if he does she's gonna try to get me disqualified.

>the real best bases arent on Option 19

That person who said MEPS couldn't disqualify you unless you have a physical with them lied.

>>64835207
Isn't the surrounding just fucking Turks?

>>64835491
The part of Germany Ramstein is located in is somewhere between 0.0 and 0.5% Turkish. Who lied to you?

>>64835392
Who said that? Anyways have a good life. LOL

>>64835777
>LOL, I am immune to a series of unfortunate events befalling me.
Nice trips

>Go to college while in the military
>Your options are:
>Use tuition assistance and take 5 online classes a year - low stress but huge time sink take 10 years to graduate
>Use GI bill and go full time student - no personal life - work, class/study, sleep, repeat
>Online colleges have single digit graduation rates
>Cant go in person ever
>if you have lab classes meant to be in person you cant finish your degree as easily
Why does everyone push the myth that you can get a 4 year degree while active duty?
There is a good reason why the GI bill covers living expenses if you are not active. Students are supposed to have all day to study and do coursework because it takes all day sometimes.
>t. AS holder, going active duty

Do you actually have to shower with other dudes?

>>64836920
No.

>>64836920
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think every branch but the marines now has divided showers in basic training.

>>64837193
So Marines are the gayest?

>>64837197
I mean yeah, but they also just pride themselves on having it worse than the other branches at this point.

>>64826064
Im 33, I've always wanted yo be a vet cause I love animals, but the schools are hyper competitive and when I was in college I needed a job so I just majored in CS.

What can the army do for me? Is it too late? Am I going to be shitting out mediocre web apps till im 62? Should join the NG and keep making that web app money?

>>64837225
What are you making now money wise?

>>64836574
Because it's one of the few tricks used to scam people into joining.

>>64837227
105k a year with insurance and 5% 401k matching. In the FL panhandle so thats pretty good.

>>64837266
The american government is evil, but the american people (i.e my neighbors) are based

>>64837308
What if your neighbors secretly work for the government (i.e. they are county clerks and they never told you), are they still based?

>>64837302
Why on earth would you join the military? Join the NG if you must, but you probably won't do stuff with animals.
I guess there's the whole money doesn't buy happiness thing but I could sure be happy with 105k plus benefits...

>>64837279
So which trick got you to join?

>>64837348
They gave me a gun.

>>64837342
The NG is acutally my favorite branch, CG 2nd, cause they are the branchs the directly help and protect people.

I also love guns

>>64837354
>They gave me a gun.
>>64837374
>I also love guns
HAIL TO THE GREATEST MILITARY ON EARTH!!!

What are the main differences in doctrine and training between 11B and 0311?
When I say "training" I mainly mean quality of training once you're at your unit.
But, I guess basic/boot shit is fine, too.
I've got interest in being an infantryman, but, I care about tangibles - preparation, sound leadership, live fire, knowing weapons, more than any of the oorah and hooah shit.

>>64836574
>takes 10 years to graduate
>Online colleges have single digit graduation rates
Nigga what? I signed up for college a year and change ago and I'm 2/3 through a Bachelor's. What the fuck are you doing?
>>64836920
Yes
>at BCT there are typically stalls but no shower curtains
>deployed or at big exercises (NTC/JRTC) there are no stalls, just big group showers
Just don't act weird and it won't be weird.

>>64837399
Army all day every day. Funding is directly proportionate to capability, and the big weenie is very well-funded

>>64837399
Not a whole lot. Marines drink kool aid branch wide, where there's a lot of kool aid among specialized units within the army.

I would join the army between the two. More money, more opportunities etc

How hard is it for Army OCS hopefuls to get an age waiver?

>army recruiter was oddly nice
i feel like i'm about to get played here

>>64838060
The fact that you pay attention to a man being nice to you is distressing. Car dealers will love you.

>>64838060
Tale as old as time, recruiters have one purpose, to get people into the military... nothing else.

>>64838325
What happens when they can't?

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>>64823651

AMA, 18B in the SF National Guard.

>>64838533
Does it feel good not having a past no one will let you escape from?

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>>64838607

I don't know what you mean

>>64838471
>they dont get their end of year 100k bonus
They just lose their recruiting orders and get sent somewhere else.

>>64837342
105k is garbage tier money in today's age even with whatever pathetic benefits are offered.
100k used to be "I hit the job jackpot and the only thing I have to worry about is showing up to work" now it's "I have a decently competitive wage compared to the poorfags but don't have total security".
With 100k and conservative living expenses you still have to work ten years to get enough money to fully own a house outright.
That isn't even considering what if you have debt going into your 100k job or get fired or accrue debt from emergency spending/bad spending.
Yes this is financial advice and it's coming from an anon in a thread on /k/. I don't care. 100k is just the peak of the iceberg in terms of fuck you money. Anyone who had to earn money to live outside of the military could understand that.
That being said the military doesnt do shit to make you rich or get you "fuck you" money. You still have to do that yourself. A lot of people choose the comfort over being rich and that's fine.

>>64838533
What happened to the 18L program?

>>64825145
>>64825651
>>64826110
I applied for Coast Guard OCS back in May 2024. I've had 3 panels and was graded "superb" on all 3. Still waiting. I was told back in September that the class that just graduated took in 45 cadidates; 2 ONLY 2 were civilians.

>>64838533
Any tips for selection prep? What were your stats when you went? Anything you would do differently during your trainup, in hindsight?

>>64823661
Stalk her ig and like every post from over a year ago. Bonus if you comment under a photo of her bf/husband (if she has one) about how she is way out of his league.

>can't join the military due to medical malpractice ruining my history and no pro bono attorney wanting to take my case
>can't join ICE despite their shit recruiting standards because it'll probably ruin my life even further
>the government probably doesn't want me either
What else do I do?

>>64840795
https://wetruegun.com/en/pro-vitrugan/

>>64840795
CBP

>>64838077
Wouldn't it be the exact opposite?

GUYS, it doesn't matter what I say. GUYS, it doesn't matter if there are systemic issues, you're going to continue to be idiotic and cause more problems for everyone including yourselves. GUYS, it's like whatever I say, you automatically decide to disregard it, even if it would be the right thing to do, as if it then becomes the wrong thing to do in your mind just because I am the one who mentioned it.

>INB4 but why would I listen to you?
Exactly, why would you? It's a valid question, even if you aren't going to answer it, regardless if it's about anything that should actually be listened to. Would listening to me mean that you are being "unreasonable" by simply listening to someone of a lower class?...

>>64841537
This is why I hate idiotic recruiters who can't take 5 minutes to do something simple.

>>64841599
Welcome back Robert. 6 years and no results.

>>64841893
Do you want to feel missed?

>>64842007
About as much difference as you've made trying to "defeat /meg/". Notice how the thread has resumed having productive discussion, as if the natural state is one of slow but informative conversation? Your actions over the years have done nothing to alter the tendency of this general to return to this state, and therefore disruption requires your constant and ceaseless presence. If you died in a car crash tomorrow (most likely caused by distracted driving from phoneposting), there would be no lasting reminder that you were ever here. That should lead any man to wonder what he could invest his time in that would lend to a different result.

>>64841062
Is that a legitimate job? Getting drone certification WILL get you an officer position in the Air Force

>>64842093
>must enlist in the ukrainian armed forces etc etc
dude you're going to the front lines. the most needed field. and treated with no dignity by the enemy.

and there's a chance they could just say screw you, you're going to the line with a rifle, good luck.

>>64842051
It doesn't take much wisdom to realize there is no battle, only an internal conflict in your abnormal mind.

Is there a place like a website or a hotline or literally anything else besides a retarded anonymous forum where anyone can impersonate anyone that I can ask in-depth questions about military recruitment, someplace with more credibility?

Because the 2 recruiters I had stopped taking me seriously after learning I was permanently DQ'd and became incapable of responding to me, and I don't know who else to ask in regards to getting myself requalified. It sucks when you actually need info from these incapable idiots. Do they do this to everyone?

>>64842319
>Do they do this to everyone?
Yes.

If only psychic powers were real, then they wouldn't view sympathy as such a frivolous concept. I can't believe they treat their own citizens like this, let alone other nationals... But why should I give them ideas of how to be better when they won't even teach me how to contribute?

>>64842319
LinkedIn is a valid resource.

>>64842916
And?

>>64843120
And what? Reach out to recruiting resources available on LinkedIn, or if you are curious about a specific role, talk to someone who currently holds that role or recently retired from that role.

>>64843362
Oh, I see.

I'm so retarded and out of touch, I might as well just commit suicide instead, since I've already been declared useless. Apparently I'm a risk that's not the same as the 1.32 million risks that they already took.

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>>64842319
>Is there a place like a website or a hotline or literally anything else besides a retarded anonymous forum where anyone can impersonate anyone that I can ask in-depth questions about military recruitment, someplace with more credibility?
Best bet is to talk to somebody you know that’s in right now (not your uncle who served 30 years ago).

Reddit is useless and full of motards who will tell you that you’ll go to prison if you lie about your middle school inhaler.

This place has more trolls than real people at this point, so it’s borderline useless.

Recruiters won’t give you the real deal. They’re just tryna find the medically perfect, no criminal history, 92 ASVAB unicorn so they can meet quota.

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>>64842047
I like how Robert posts so much and so frequently at all hours of the day and night in all timezones that for a while people thought he was just a chatbot. Then we thought he was some international troll because he was going on tirades at 4:30AM EST, but nope. He’s actually in Texas or some shit.

But no, just one mentally ill loser who treats trolling 4Chan like a full-time job (with overtime). If Robert actually made it into the Army, he’d be halfway to retirement by now. Probably an E-6 or 7 given his tremendous work ethic (at least his trolling work ethic).

Instead his efforts are spent here, just for his posts to be removed the next day. Very Sisyphean. “One must imagine Robert happy.”

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>>64837193
>Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think every branch but the marines now has divided showers in basic training.
Air Force is split. They’ve got a bunch of new trainee buildings, but not enough to hold everyone. They also used some old, decrepit shit from the 80s with the group showers. I don’t know what the showers are like on the new part because I was never there.

It’s like 50/50 whether you end up in the nice buildings or the shitty ones.

>>64843877
If I manage to score closer to 99, how much more willing will they be to look the other way about my fucked medical history? How do I even take the ASVAB again when every recruiter treats me like persona non grata after learning I was already permanently DQ'd?

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>>64844116
>If I manage to score closer to 99, how much more willing will they be to look the other way about my fucked medical history?
It can help, but they’re not magicians. You also can’t lie about your medical history as easy anymore thanks to Genesis. You’re also not giving enough information to give any specific advice. >How do I even take the ASVAB again when every recruiter treats me like persona non grata after learning I was already permanently DQ'd?
What was your score? If it was 80+, it really won’t do you much good to take it again.

>>64844185
>You’re also not giving enough information to give any specific advice.
A bunch of medical malpractice, statute of limitations, and bro bono attorneys not wanting to take the case for my poor ass for more recent incidents because apparently they think it isn't a sure-fire win.

>What was your score?
74.

>If it was 80+, it really won’t do you much good to take it again.
What about someone who scored 80, and then they retook it and managed to score 99?

>>64844243
>What about someone
*for

Would it be worth it if that were to happen?

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>>64844243
>A bunch of medical malpractice, statute of limitations, and bro bono attorneys not wanting to take the case for my poor ass for more recent incidents because apparently they think it isn't a sure-fire win.
I’m not a doctor. I don’t really know what that means. What DQed you? Did they accidentally chop your leg off or something?

>What was your score? 74.
Unless you have a job in mind, I wouldn’t bother retaking. You qualify for most jobs. Recruiters just hate when retards score a 35 and then also need a bunch of waivers. It’s a lot of work for a bottom of the barrel candidate. Your score is fine. Not wowing anyone, but you qualify for more than 3 jobs.

>If it was 80+, it really won’t do you much good to take it again.
>What about someone who scored 80, and then they retook it and managed to score 9
I think you jump into another “tier” of candidates, but still doesn’t really change anything.

>>64844350
>What DQed you?
It's apparently because of my "medical history and medications" that I was on.
They gave me shit that I probably shouldn't have been on, and all my major problems started happening after my treatment had begun. It makes the original reasons why I needed treatment look like nothing in comparison. And wouldn't you know, I've been the most stable I've ever been after a different neurological treatment, and taking me off all medications... So, now my on-paper-life is ruined forever, all because of the shit medical industry. And no, I never had a physical at MEPS, but they DQ'd me anyway.

>INB4 but you're being erratic, so you're not """"stable""""
Because every time I need something from literally anyone, everyone becomes incompetent fucking morons! This isn't even exclusive to the Military, and no one ever likes to listen to me, apparently. Why don't you expose *anyone* to that much undue stress and see how they act? Haven't you ever seen The Game (1997)?... Michael Douglas becomes an asshole, and that's not even the worst of it!

>Recruiters just hate when retards score a 35 and then also need a bunch of waivers.
They're already acting like they hate that I scored a 74 and need a bunch of waivers! It doesn't help that one of my recruiters had a "medical emergency" and they had to put me with someone different, and this new guy is acting like he doesn't really care about anything, especially when compared to the last guy... And no, I didn't ask what happened.

Why are SNCOs mocked so hard?
https://youtu.be/4nsbIDAmDK8?t=1661

>>64844350
>>64844454
Oh yeah, and they want me to collect notes from all the doctors that diagnosed me saying that they fucked up (some of which aren't even my regular doctors), but there's probably no way I'm gonna be able to do that without an attorney threatening to sue.

>>64844454
Dude we said this before.
You cant get disqualified before MEPS.
Your recruiter cant DQ you before MEPS.
You could have googled that answer but you came here to type essays multiple times instead and wasted weeks of time.
Regardless of the circumstances, you really aren't helping your case.
>they want me to collect notes from all the doctors
They are actually helping you. Your recruiter(s) told you what you need to do to proceed.
This is also proof that they did not "disqualify" you because DQ means you have no potential path forward towards enlistment PERIOD.
>>64844924
Why are you so lazer-focused on going the legal route?
Why not just, I don't know, fucking talk to people?
Why sue? I don't get it.

I swear, trying to help some people is so fruitless that it might as well be a resident troll you ate talking to.

>>64845129
>You cant get disqualified before MEPS.
Well, they apparently did.
>Your recruiter cant DQ you before MEPS.
When I said that, my third recruiter just stopped responding to my messages. I'd like to think the second one wouldn't have, but he's out of commission due to sudden health issues.
>They are actually helping you. Your recruiter(s) told you what you need to do to proceed.
When I asked my third recruiter which doctors were the most problematic for them that I needed notes from, he also didn't respond.
>This is also proof that they did not "disqualify" you because DQ means you have no potential path forward towards enlistment PERIOD.
That's not even what my third recruiter said. When I asked him about getting requalified (after he told me I was permanently DQ'd), he told me "The letters of misdiagnosis would be your strongest chance". He said nothing about it being unnegotiable when I asked if there were no exceptions, and when I looked that up it said "permanently" wasn't literally permanent, apparently. It seemed to mean "until further notice", and now I'm being told something different by you.

>Why are you so lazer-focused on going the legal route?
What other route is there?
>Why not just, I don't know, fucking talk to people?
I am, but I don't know why everyone is being so dodgey and elusive; and I'm sure you can understand my frustration of getting so much mixed info from everyone. None of this makes any sense, even from actual personnel who's identity I can verify!
>Why sue? I don't get it.
Because why would any doctor or medical professional willingly say that they fucked up and misdiagnosed someone, especially in writing?...

>>64845171
I just can't figure out why they're treating me like persona non grata. No one is telling me anything.

>>64845171
>>64845196
*and none of this adds up.

>>64845179
>When I said that, my third recruiter just stopped responding
Why say this over text or phone? At all.
>he also didn't respond.
Pro tip they do not take you seriously one bit over the phone. Simply texting or cold calling isnt going to work, you have to show up in person for real answers.
Not insulting you but this seems like a competence issue from you unironically.
>now I'm being told something different by you.
OK? Regardless, you are acting as if you couldn't have figured out 1/2 of your questions through google before typing multiple giant essays here for weeks on end.
>None of this makes any sense,
Only because you are spending weeks worrying about things you could have an answer for if you just showed up in person.
>Because why would any doctor
Who said ask them for malpractice?
Why is it so important to prove malpractice? Unless that is actually the issue.

>>64845216
>Why say this over text or phone? At all.
Because that's how they're contacting me. They seem to get annoyed when I just show up unsolicitedly, and I can't just call the main station because any numbers I could find on Google were out of service. I'll show up in person more if I need to, but I can't coordinate any proper time-allocated meeting when I can't get ahold of anyone.
>Pro tip they do not take you seriously one bit over the phone. Simply texting or cold calling isnt going to work, you have to show up in person for real answers.
>Not insulting you but this seems like a competence issue from you unironically.
This third recruiter I never even met before, and he seems to take me the least seriously. They just stuck me with him, and he was asking me what he needed to do, as if they didn't tell him anything either!
>OK? Regardless, you are acting as if you couldn't have figured out 1/2 of your questions through google before typing multiple giant essays here for weeks on end.
Google is telling me different things than you are, too.
>Only because you are spending weeks worrying about things you could have an answer for if you just showed up in person.
Okay, I'll show up more, regardless if I can get ahold of anyone beforehand to tell them I'm coming.
>Who said ask them for malpractice?
They didn't, those are my words, because that's also what happened in my medical history.
>Why is it so important to prove malpractice? Unless that is actually the issue.
The issue is being told by everyone that I've been permanently DQ'd even when I shouldn't have. If there was some computer error, then that is obviously a problem, but how can I address this when none of my recruiters are cooperating with me? Am I just supposed to call MEPS directly?

>>64845129
Also, to address a couple inconsistencies:
>You cant get disqualified before MEPS.
Google says I can.
>Your recruiter cant DQ you before MEPS.
Google says they can, but then I just need a waiver to get requalified.*
>This is also proof that they did not "disqualify" you because DQ means you have no potential path forward towards enlistment PERIOD.
*What you're saying is literally just wrong according to Google.

Are you actually in the U.S. Military; and if so, what is your rank?

>>64845129
>>64845296
*and what you said about DQ is wrong according to https://www.goarmy.com/how-to-join/steps/processing-station

>>64835207
Nah bro, Osan. Fucking 1 hour and 30 minuets from Seoul, dogshit exercises, no one gives a shit about their job, and all Korean women try to use you for money. But I've been lucky and was on Yokota and Kadena before Osan, so I'm a Japanese elitist. But let's real Japan >>>>> Korea & Japanese woman >>>>>>> Korean women.

>>64835330
Tell your recruiter. Definitely tell the investigator for your security clearance (they'll call you before you go to basic). Tell both the whole situation so you CYA.

>>64845887
NYPA
Y
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A

>>64845918
And what the hell is that supposed to mean?

>>64842371
>>>/x/41929268

So. How do the metrics work for running /meg/ especially for NCOER/OERs?

>>64845976
Faster=gooder

>>64845918
Fine, do you have a problem calling it an office?

>>64845240
>>64845296
You are a total fucking numbskull retard with "incompetence" written all over you.
There is no helping you.
Your doctors were probably right about the diagnosis because you do not listen to a single fucking thing anyone tells you and you spew too much diarrhea from your mouth 24/7.

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>>64845887
>>64845928
>>64845976
>>64846163
Robert.

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>>64845240
>>64845296
>>64845304
This is Robert too.
He's trying really hard to make up a story to get a "gotcha" from this guy.
It's pathetic.

Ah, man. The mil reddit discords are full of faggots. To be fair though, so are the /k/ ones.

>>64846550
I would never join a discord from 4chan. Guaranteed total faggots in them.

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>>64846668
Discord is spyware anyways. They save everything so, 10 years down the road, they can have you arrested for saying faggot once the 1st Amendment has been abolished

>>64846692
When is Obama going to take my guns? I am still sitting on my pallets of .22 I bought after sandy hook in 2012.

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In the modern United States Navy, a midshipman is classified as an officer of the line, though their exercise of authority is limited by their training status.[93] Legally, midshipmen are a special grade of uncommissioned officer that ranks between the senior noncommissioned enlisted grade (E-9) and the lowest grade of chief warrant officer (W-2, in the U.S. Coast Guard, which does not currently use the grade of warrant officer (W-1))[93][94][A 6] or warrant officer (W-1), U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, or U.S. Marine Corps.[A 7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midshipman

E9 bros, how are we feeling? Since a college football player and student has more rank than you.

>>64846943
>t. BCDfag

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>>64846943
>He thinks there’s E-9s browsing this shithole

>>64846943
>this is the third news story / game show trivia post I've done
>please talk to me
>signed yours truly the resident troll

>>64847027
>hates the military so much he reads about it every day and comes here to talk about it with people who are in or looking to get in
Reminds me of those homophobes that know way too much about the gay scene to not have an active interest in doing gay shit.

>>64846163
no

>>64846518
>says shit that is easily debunked by Google
>calls the person who pointed this out "incompetent" and doesn't even try to refute
Whatever dude, that's pretty ironic coming from you.

Did you know you can join the US Military as a non-citizen without a Green Card? This is 100% real bros, no cap no cap

I've got $1200 in debts, possibly in collections, unsure. Will this affect my ability to get a clearance?

>>64848014
Not as long as you're honest about it and have some kind of plan to pay it. $1200 is like 1.5 basic training paychecks for an E-1, if you can get through basic you can pay it off ezpz. Just don't try to hide it, that sets off red flags.

>>64847822
For you? Yes, more effort than usual

This is a stupid, stupid question, so please be patient with me.
I am lawyer.
A networking group that my firm belongs to had a mention in one of their emails that my state's National Guard is looking for part time JAG lawyers.
I thought about getting into one of the JAG Corps when I was fresh out of law school, and I went as far as starting to fill out the application for the Air Force JAG but I gave up because I thought they wouldn't accept me.
How stupid of an idea is it to apply to that? It seems interesting, and a second job may not be a bad idea.
Is there any one who did apply as a National Guard JAG lawyer? Or was a JAG at some point?
Am I too old? I am in my mid thirties.
I am nerd with an office job who is slightly overweight, but otherwise in good health. Would that be a problem?
What kind of commitment is that? A weekend a month is doable, but long term deployments are going to be a problem. I already work for a small firm, so they would miss me if were to be away for a long time. I also have a house and dog to take care of.
Thanks in advance for any advice.

>>64847744
>>64847822
>>64848249
Why would anyone try to "refute" you google searching shit in different terms than the other guy?
Why would anyone try to "refute" you now that you've exposed your stupid fucking LARP?
You deserve to get stuffed in a casket for being so retarded, Robert.

>>64848249
You havent learned a single thing in 6 years considering you fold every time you are called by your name, Robert.

im some dumbass incestual faggot redneck from nowhere and want to join. after doing some research, i concluded that either Space Force or Air Force would be the best. can someone give me advice? thanks

>>64848543
You should instead go to Illinois and meet this guy named Robert.
He's just like you, you'll be great friends.

>>64848553
Don't ever offer me the chance to buttfuck someone from down South.

>>64848553
is Robert a recruiter?

>>64848249
The only evidence of learning is your gradual reduction in effort and time spent here. You will demonstrate that you have learned when you stop coming here. This website is clearly not healthy for you.

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>>64848699
Robert, you can't just return to the LARP once it's compromised.
You are fucking retarded.
My nigg, you know I know it's you because who the fuck else would be up so late on a saturday night?
The grift is over. stop this stupid "i have a diagnosis and now I have to sue doctors" shit ass LARP. It was obvious once you started arguing with everyone like you usually do.
Time to retire this one.

>>64848605
>This website is clearly not healthy for you.
Why does my entire life have to be filled with heartache and misery? Every single time I tried to get out of it "the right way", nothing went well. Worrying about my future is what got me into this mess, and somehow not worrying about my future and trying to focus on short term goals hasn't helped either.

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>>64848699
>That's pretty bold for people who are supposed to have this shit memorized..
FumbDuck Ass Robert retard still thinks everyone ITT that isnt him is a recruiter.

>>64848703
>>64848708
Start by not threatening to murder women and children in a country you never stepped foot in under a flag which you hate and just want to desecrate.

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>>64848716
No I know you are the same person, Robert.
Same as always.
I don't need your almost-served opinion on what regulations I or anyone else in service "needs to memorize".

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>>64848703
>Hurr I can’t escape my past cuz I got kicked out the military 10 years ago.
The saddest part is this shit isn’t even true. Robert could have got a warehouse job or some shit and moved on with his life.

Instead he actually thinks people feel bad for him because he was a monumental retard 10 years ago and has obsessed about it ever since.

Like holy fuck, this fat retard didn’t even go to prison, and he’s been spamming
>It’s joever
For a decade.

Go drive a semi-truck and fuck some lot lizards you fucking cretin. Haven’t you learned by now that nobody sheds tears for men? You made your bed. Lie in it.

What's the best way to get blown up to get 100% disability

>>64849314
>>64849328
Laquarius here doing your mom

>>64849314
>>64849328
>>64849547
BoDingle here. Laquarius did my mom.

See Robert anyone can do it.

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Besides the gay monster, how do you feel about the portrayal of RASP?
https://youtu.be/JESc8YBonFc

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>>64849610
>>64844466
>Irrelevant time wasting question
>YouTube link to irrelevant time wasting video
Why do you saturate your entire life with army shit if you supposedly hate the military, Robert?

>>64849824
He was programmed by Hollywood to become a soldier, but he was considered defective and rightfully kicked out. He is the modern Ephialtes, except he lacks the ability to betray as betrayal requires power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRtemWv_5cc

>>64849314
11B and eagerly deploying. You either get to step on an IED or get droned by Z-ombies. If there are no juicy Iran-US wars by the time your contract is up, then go to the Ukro foreign legion.

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>>64849314
>>64849995
Why are you talking to yourself and answering your own questions?

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>>64849954
To strike the killing blow while the day is just starting for our poor Ephialtes, I want to add that the Greek word for 'nightmare' is εφιάλτης, for he truly did come from the place of nightmares.

If service in the US military was as pointless and worthless as our Ephialtes has spent years insist it is, then he would not be haunted by the ceaseless nightmares of rejection and denial that haunt his conscience. I am sure many of us have applied to jobs for which we were not selected, yet I have yet to witness a single, suffering soul groan and moan over rejection from a door-to-door insurance sales, online customer service, or some other entry-level role.

Here we have a specimen that has sacrificed more years of his life denigrating a role than he would have spent serving in it. It must have meant so much to him for him to still implicitly acknowledge the value by investing so much of his time in discussion about it. He even espouses the benefits of joining a local militia, serving in a simulacrum of the role he was denied.

All poor Ephialtes wanted to be was "one of the boys" drinking beers and swapping jokes around the backyard bonfire. Instead, he morphed into a twisted monster, languishing like Dostoevsky's Underground Man, forgotten by all but those who detest his existence. In time, he will be forgotten by all, gone from memory before his physical death, his body unceremoniously cremated when it is discovered by a stranger who noticed an unusual odor emanating from a forgotten corner of their apartment building.

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>This is the little shit spamming the thread right now

hoky fucking shit no one cares stop posting walls of text about fucking robert

>>64850037
No worries, I'm done. I turbocharged him with enough rage to guarantee he wastes the next few days seething. His trolling is time-consuming while my retort is time-efficient.

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>>64849995
>11B
>Deploying
>In current year
I know I’m feeding the troll here, but it’s funny listening to Robert describe the military as he knows it, which is as a Basic Training wash out from a decade ago when the GWOT was still happening.

Nobody’s deploying. Nobody’s dying. Tennessee is not a real deployment. The only people getting combat action is natty guardsmen picking up trash in Virginia.

Like everything is just so fucking stupid and wrong but you can’t help but laugh at it. I know it’s what he wants, and I don’t care.

>>64850037
Rob might be the only person who regularly posts here. It’s effectively become Robert general at this point, which is his proudest accomplishment somehow. All it took was 8 years of dedicating his entire life to this dumb board. He’s the Lebron James of being annoying on /k/.

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>>64850310
>>64850048
I don't care, fuck off to discord already.

>>64850310
He doesn't even have a consistent nickname. He is not well-known like Armatard. If his goal is to be a "famous /k/ troll", he has failed. He constantly tries to pretend to be other people, so the only reason we even know it's one guy is because he sucks at lying and spergs out whenever he gets called out.

I think the worst mistake I made was I actually thought I would make it through Boot Camp/BT, and if I didn't think so, I would probably somehow be in the Army already, because that's how the cookie crumbles for some reason...

>>64837225
Well, unfortunately, the Army wont help you get into vet school. You need an acceptance letter to start the process. That being said,

>what can the Army offer me?
They will pay for your entire education. If you need it for school, aside from a laptop, they will pay for it. Tuition, books, stethoscope, whatever. On top of that, you get a monthly stipend ($2600ish as of time of writing), and usually a signing bonus of up to $20k in my experience though i heard rumors that it went up for some specialties. Then, while in, you will get what is, from my understanding, a very competitive pay as a vet without the ridiculous price of vet school. The vets I talked to in training told me their school was as expensive as med school but the pay was significantly less, whereas in the military a captain physician and a captain vet make about the same amount.

>is it too late?
Not at all. I went to training with a 48 year-old oromaxillofacial surgeon. If you still want to be a vet, it was always going to take 4 years. Youre going to be 40 one day anyways, may as well be 40 and a vet.

>should I ....?
Up to you, but I would at least talk to a medical recruiter and get an idea of what it would look like for you. I've enjoyed it, I would not have been able to go to medical school if it weren't for the Army. I have kids so the stipend and lack of loans hanging over my head have been a lifesaver. I'll make less than my colleagues for a few years, but I also wont have to fight insurance for payment, won't pay malpractice insurance, and get some benefits during my service. YMMV. Be informed, but if youre even a little bit interested, talking to a recruiter is a low risk time investment. Medical recruiters are still recruiters, but you benefit from them knowing theyre recruiting People who know how to shower, have been to college, and are generally better at reading a contract than the average enlistee.

>>64850680
Broski I just think we gotta go for it. I know what you mean. It's not that I'm gonna do something absurd like lash out at a DS but just the thought of being there makes me nervous.

Statistically once we make it past meps, we have a near guarantee of making it a full contract.

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>>64850712
I recognize now that the second paragraph is poorly written.


Tl;dr
Vet school = expensive
Vet pay = good, but not as much as MD/DO

Military Vet pay and military MD pay are about the same.

Therefore, HPSP is a very good deal for vets from a financial perspective.

Moomin pic

>>64850725
Just quick Google, mean vet pay is approx $140k, vet school approx $200-400k. You'd be making approx $75-100k and not owing a cent.

I will be making approx $90k as a new grad doctor in residency, I'm not sure how much attendings make but its not the mean $300k+ of the civilian world afaik.

>>64850749
Ouch, so you're looking at a minimum of 5 years to pay off your student loans if you have a very forgiving living situation.

>>64850938
That's the nice thing about HPSP: no student loans. For vets, it seems like a no-brainer to me. Physicians give up like $300k over the course of service time for the opportunity, and that's only if theyre in a 3-4 year residency. High-paying specialties like anesthesia, orthopedics, dermatology, ophthalmology, other surgical specialties are leaving millions on the table.

That being said, military medical training is excellent across the board. It's not like the VA, MTFs are very good places to train. Many military medical concepts become civilian gold standards, especially in areas like trauma - the DoD is basically the leading edge in trauma medicine.

For me, I always wanted to serve but never found a way in that made sense for my long-term life goals, until medicine came into the picture. It makes sense for me, but it's a big tradeoff financially for a few years.

>>64851002
It's funny you mention trauma medicine specifically because I recall meeting a navy corpsman who opted to switch to the reserves and work in the trauma unit of the largest hospital in the area.

>>64851014
Sure, practice options are different for different roles. Doctors have more control over their practice location. Depends on the location.

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>>64851469
>irrelevant time wasting Robert question

so i did the afqt practice test
and one of the questions in arithmetic was someone like pipes were down for 1/4, 3/4 and 1-3/4 down how many hours was it down for

wtf does 1-3/4 mean, wasnt sure how to read it
because it was just 1 MINUS 3/4 thats easy but answers didnt make sense if that was the case
the answers where stuff like 2-3/6 2-3/3 and stuff like that

>>64852255
It means 1 and 3/4 or 1 + 3/4 or 1.75.

Hello, I am thinking about joining up with my country's military. Not the US unfortunately as it seems like that's what this thread's really about, but I just have a question about the preliminary interview they do and the questions they ask, i.e. things like "Why do you want to join your chosen service? How do you feel about being deployed to an area of conflict? What skills, interests or experience do you bring to your chosen trade? What were the reasons that you left your last place of employment?"

The advice I see given in many forums is a) be honest, and b) treat it like a normal interview. Except I lie my ass off in normal interviews. The truthful answers to the aforementioned questions would be along the lines of this: "I'm joining up because I have no education or training and see this as steady employment with future career potential" and "I'd feel fucking terrible about hurting other people" and "I bring literally nothing to the table to my chosen trade, I'm hoping you'll train me for free while I serve".

That's too truthful, right? If I was to lie, I'd say some shit like "I wish to join because I'm motivated by service and structure, I've thought about the demands of military life and I'm ready to commit to them," and "I have considered the risks and impact deploying in a combat zone might have, but I am prepared for it as I believe in doing my part as a member of the military."

But I'm sure they receive soulless, prepared answers like this all the fucking time and see right through it. So what's the go, anons? What am I expected to say? What do they expect to hear?

>>64852351
1-3/4 IS 1.75? that doesnt make any sense

>>64852255
1 - 3/4 is the equivalent of 4/4 - 3/4, which would equal 1/4

>>64853220
>>64852375
world's shittiest b8

>>64853227
How is my response bait? Go ahead and tell me what 1 - 3/4 is

>>64853337
Its equal to Robert. Its a real number as opposed to an imaginary one.

>>64845129
Do you not realize different MEPS have different policies? They sure as shit can DQ you before MEPS, it just sounds like yours probably doesn't.

>>64823651
Dumb question but I ship out in April from San Antonio. Are we going to take a bus all the way to Fort Sill or are they gonna put us on a plane, head to Oklahoma, and then bus to Fort Sill?

Made it from 10 to 40 pushups in a month. Maybe I do actually have a chance at being a solder or something. It's probably a laughable amount at 40 still, but you know, I'm proud of myself.

>>64854878
You have done well. I can manage about thirty before I tire out. What I need work on is endurance for running. Push ups, sit ups, jumping jacks, I can do all that. Running.
Running I cannot do. My lungs ache and burn after a few moments.

>>64854903
The apft would have been impossible for you to pass. The acft is a joke.

>>64854971
The Recruiter has been gathering everyone to meet once a week so that we can all exercise and weigh in. Folks that are over weight are encouraged to lose whilst those under are encouraged to eat, that sort. My original 2-Mile was abysmal, nearly half an hour. I've got it down to around twenty five minutes but still. Throat burns, lungs and nostrils burn, still running though.

>>64855012
Height/weight? How much are you running throughout the week?
The good news is that for most people of normal weight, just running regularly will eventually get your conditioning to the point that you can pass the 2-mile. A lot of people report running their best times at BCT, and a big reason is because they're just running more.

>>64855033
I don't always have time but I run for about half an hour twice a week. The time with the recruiter, and on my day off work in the morning. I'm 5'9" and 155lbs. I lost five pounds over December to January so, hurray I think. I walk to work so every now and then I'll break into a small jog between light posts, though I can't sustain it.

>>64855012
>whilst those under are encouraged to eat
People say just eat more to gain weight, but it ends up being impossible and I don't know why. In any case it feels like it doesn't happen fast enough, and it just starts to feel like a chore when I'm not hungry.

>>64855044
Keep at it and stay consistent. How long do you have before you ship?

>>64855152
Its not so much "Just eat more!" as it is what you're eating as well. If you're underweight you need to take in more calories on the whole, not just bigger portions. You can eat twenty pounds of apples but those apples won't sustain you. Bread, nuts and beans, potatoes, cheese, those are all what you should be eating ontop of your meat and vegetables. How its prepared also affects it, don't just boil that stuff away, grill it or sautee it. Oils help.

>>64855160
Literally adding olive oil to everything you eat is an easy way to add kcals to so many different food options. Turn your dinner bread into Italian herb and olive oil bread. Turn your salad into a Greek salad. Fry your chicken wings with olive oil instead of breading them. Drizzle your spaghetti with olive oil instead of tomato sauce.

>>64855170
Hell, skip the olive oil on cooking your breakfast or dinner and use fucking lard. Theres a reason we as humans used lard to cook for thousands of years. I've begun eating more but thats just because I've been feeling hungrier.
>Normal breakfast is two eggs, two pieces of toast.
>Now its three eggs, three pieces of toast, and two tomatoes.

>>64854878
>>64854903
Like I always say, you really should not be doing the eccentric on the AFT.
Push and just drop. You'll tire out your triceps first if you control yourself to the bottom.
Hand-release is easy as shit because you get to rest a half second in between reps.
It's a joke not to do 30-40 minimum hand-release pushups as an adult male on the AFT.
The only reason they let you pass with lower is they have crap standards to include as many twig arm nerd POGs and grandpa 1SGs as possible.
You have a whole 2 minutes to do it also. Mind over matter that shit. Hua.

>>64855285
Buddy the last time I tried to push myself to the limit when it came to running I collapsed five minutes in wheezing and haggard, and it sounded like something was growling in the pit of my throat.

>>64854903
>>64855412
Have you ever been tested for asthma (or similar)?

>>64855012
The minimum score for the acft is like 23 mins or something. The old pt test the minimum was like 16:30.

This new test you can basically roll out of bed after a bender and pass it.

>>64855657
It's now 19 minutes and change. Still slow, but if yiu struggle to run a 20 minute 2 mile you need to train to pass.

>>64855184
Lardmaxxing is too powerful for a mere mortal. The brain is mostly composed of fat, so feeding your body more fat has a positive impact on the mind as well.

>>64855602
When I was a boy, but it came back negative. Recruiter asked the same thing.
>>64855657
I don't want to be one of those fellas that roll out of bed and get it done, I want to at least get it within 15:00, but so far my time is around 25:00~ ish.

>>64855412
>>64855997
You don't have asthma.
You have a conditioning issue that can be overcome with training.
Run on a consistent schedule for a month. Three days a week. 30 minute runs, ignore distance.
You will improve your cardio leaps and bounds.
Stop if your shins or knees hurt, but always do short warm up sprints, high kicks, stretching.
Do recovery exercises, train the full legs on your last day of the regimen.

>>64856371
I see. Do you think I can get this regimented before I ship out in April if I start today?

>>64830236
Clean shaven is the sign of a civilised man, dating back to the tradition of glorious Rome
What you wanna be a beardy greek neckbeard child rapist? Shave your beard you damn hippy

>>64856414
There was a time I couldn't run a quarter mile without my sides hurting. Now I can run 5 miles easily.

Set a routine, run for as long as you can, don't worry about speed or distance but also work in sprints and really anything to get your heart rate up. You need to be outside running your ass off for the next 2 months and at night do upper body and core. If you can just get to a mile or two of running you'll be in fine shape for basic.

I know it's what you don't wanna hear, but the solution truly is running more.

>>64856712
I will try. I will try. If the solution is truly that simple, then I need to get off my butt and start doing it.

>Contact Navy Officer Recruiter for BDCP in December
>3.96 GPA
>Get a 49 OAR
>He seems optimistic of my chances for Supply
>Sends me a bunch of forms to fill out
>Fill them out and send them
>He just cuts contact and won't answer me since December 15th
What the actual fuck do I do here? I kinda needed the money from BDCP ASAP and the board is this month. I can graduate within a year if I take a summer semester so I can contact the Air Force recruiter asking for OTS but that's going to suck for my financial situation to wait around

>>64855170
>>64855184
The DougDoug meme is real
https://youtube.com/shorts/3qfhqJrFblg?si=08n-pOy-8Yfmcg0q

what do i do about the references....
i dont have friends irl

>>64857281
That's a sign of latent mental problems.

>>64857303
Either that or hes just a real quiet person.
>>64857281
Do you work?

>>64857281
They asked you too? Did they always do that for the military?

>>64857420
>Either that or hes just a real quiet person.
They should join the police academy instead.

>>64857420
i dont.
>>64857456
at least in the army im pretty sure they always do that(and they call them)

do any of you fag/k/ots have experience or know someone who has to enlisted or tried to enlist with a thyroid issue and is on meds?
Asking for a friend
(It's me, the friend is me)

ETN1 Shitass here. Answering nuke related questions. As always, the OP post about being a nuke only applies if you're lazy, unlikeable, or braindead. You can be 2 of 3, but not all 3.

>>64857594
>No job.
>No friends.
I hate to ask but how old are you...?

>>64857629
Can you give some insight on how you interact with officers?

>>64857792
above the age of 20 below the age of 25

>>64857594
>at least in the army im pretty sure they always do that(and they call them)
I meant historically; it seems like a more recent thing.

>>64857834
Not him, but:
>no job
>no friends
>same age range

You probably have the same reasons for joining the Army as me.
>Lol'd in a sad manner

>>64857281
How bad do you want your selected job?
Combined association between all your contacts has to be 7(?) years right?
>Teachers
>High school "friends"
>College classmates?
>Neighbors
>Online "friends"
>Rent-a-reference online?

If you are willing to settle for something without a security clearance you can change MOS still, right?
Reclassing is a bitch though. If you got something you want in mind you should try to enlist as that job.

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>>64856414
You can 100% achieve whatever you put your mind to do.
If a month from now you get tired of the training regimen you put on, then you aren't going to be all that you can be.
If you start today/tomorrow, stay on schedule and leave in April you are going to make it.
Start your first couple days light dont hurt yourself before basic.
If you start running and training consistently, thats already half the battle.
Not quitting and not taking shortcuts is the other half. And not getting hurt.

>>64857854
Not him but yeah army applicants have to do that for jobs with sec clearance. I had to.

>>64857916
>Combined association between all your contacts has to be 7(?) years right?
Not him, but they didn't even tell me that.

And what do you mean by "combined"? Can I know one person for 6 years and 11 months and the other two people for half a month, and it'll still count?

>>64857933
Its not a matter of quitting. I can't quit. I need something that can support the family and, unfortunately, after months of searching, I can't find a better job nor a second one, so this is the last resort. I cannot quit. I will serve out my time to the best of my power, and then, collect the money therehence. Thats why I selected my MOS. Good pay there and its skills will transfer.

>>64858050
Ganbare anon, you got this.

>hegseth cocksucking thread
>>>/pol/