Are we about to enter the /k/ool zone?This was a few hours ago, but there are still quite a few tankers moving towards US bases from Greece onward?
Experience leads me to believe it's just slightly more than routine but I want to believe
Whoops, didn't mean that second one as a question. Regardless, what's the chance this ends up as nothingburger? I wouldn't put it past Trump/Hegseth to do this as a show of force, but I don't recall seeing Air Mobility Command doing this much heavy lifting in a while.
>>64880561Operation Desert Storm SIX CARRIERSOperation Iraqi Freedom FIVE CARRIERSOperation Orange Blowhard...Two Carriers. Limited strikes if anything.But probably nothing.
>>64880581How's Maduro?
>>64880584Bombing hardened industrial plants =/= snatching a dude. And capturing the leadership of Iran would be WAY harder than in Venezuela.
>>64880581More than 2 carriers isn’t needed
Considering how disingenuous Iranians are being in negotiations and their clear commitment to being an extremist state who sponsors terrorism, and insists on pursuing long range missiles and nuclear weapons, I think it's now or never. Their air defense never really recovered from June and there is considerable resentment and latent unrest in the Iranian people. The traditional Muslim 40 days of mourning for those who died in the protests has just ended. When the shah fell it was 40 days after his wave of repression when protests arose again. It is a bit too hopeful to bet your plans of regime change on civilians but we already know that imposing a regime from outside lacks legitimacy among the people.
>>64880597>And capturing the leadership of Iran would be WAY harder than in Venezuela.Are you issuing a challenge?
>>64880604This is true. But overkill is always the best course of action.
>>64880610I'm not saying it would be a bad thing. But I would not expect zero casualties.
>>64880640>I'll be rooting for the IraniansWe know anon, no need to to convince us you are anything more than a proto-human elevated out of your basic hunter-gatherer existence simply abundant excess created in the west.
>>64880680>You're all the same.As I said my brown, proto-human friend, I know.
>>64880680>your neighbour pays crackheads to throw bricks through your windows>you constantly have to deal with the crackheads>this happens for years until you decide to deal with the neighbour instead of the crackheads he pays to cause damage and commit crimes on his behalf>SEE!! SEE!! POOR INNOCENT NEIGHBOUR BRUTALLY ATTACKED COMPLETELY UNPROVOKED!!!!!!!!
>>64880680>Sponsors terrorism world wide for decades, harasses and captures ships, destabilizes the Middle East>Harnesses the power of plutonium to get nukes so they can destroy their enemies like schizos >Harmless Just how brown are you?
>>64880711>The US is a rogue nationAgain, what flavor of brown are you?
>>64880714>>Sponsors terrorism world wide for decades, harasses and captures ships, destabilizes the Middle East>>Harnesses the power of plutonium to get nukes so they can destroy their enemies like schizosI thought you were talking about US before I checked the replychain lol
>>64880549not sure. keep an eye on the pizza index tonight https://www.pizzint.watch/
>>64880726
>>64880711Are you a brown brainwashed zoomer living in the west?
>>64880726>I'm a euroSure you are anon..sure you are.We also find your takes mildly amusing.
>>64880584How's Delcy Rodriguez?
Routine border of exercise. Happens all the time.
Iraq in 2003 was genuinely a bad call that lead to so much destabilizing shit. Knocking out Iran would remove the main shit-stirrer in the region. Because every other state managed to find a way to make some peace with Israel and the West, but the Iranians funnel personnel and weapons to whoever wants to fight.All while pushing their propaganda about how they're ready to obliterate their foes, well let's go then.
>>64880726Another European who is extremely butthurt over Trump and is completely delusional about how the world is. Your ancestors would be so ashamed of you after all they accomplished. I get so much second hand embarrassment reading euro posts on here, you guys really need to be humbled. It's unreal how delusional Western Europe has become, only the East remains sensible
>>64880747
>>64880680>tl:dr
>>64880747are you being paid by the word ?Why do you keep writing massive paragraphs of political posturing on a weapons board ?
>>64880581I don't think we have enough carriers in shape or ready to deploy like that anyway
>>64880746>Another EuropeanFalling for the oldest trick in the book.
>>64880581Im guessing its gonna be raining SDBs from airforce jets like candy so the navy has a more limited role in this one.
>>64880773>checking out just in time for iftarlike clockwork.
I don't care if US goes around murdering ragheads but they could take care of the fucking refugees that they cause by destabeling those shitholes
>>64880726>I'm a euro.Stopped reading right there.
>>64880773
>>64880711trvth nuke
>>64880549I doubt it. It sounds like the nuclear talks are progressing according to both sides. Hard to imagine you see progress and just immediately say, "Fuck it, bombs away."
>>64880799You nuked the street where you shat at
>>64880735Well she released political prisoners and opened negotiations on foreign oil companies again so she has a bright captivity free future, I'd say
>>64880560>slightly more than routineOh shit is going down that's for sure. You don't put two carriers and hundreds of tankers in range for nothing.
>>64880823>two carriersActually you do. At least sometimes. If they're rotating stations that's pretty normal, but idk how long they've been there
>>64880803>signing another deal with the IraniansYou'd think Trump of all people would realize how futile that is. The moment he leaves office they'll just go back to their old self. It doesn't even matter who wins 2028. Vance wants to pretend the eastern hemisphere isn't real and whichever Democrat runs will campaign on being an international softy like Obama.
>>64880837Obama is still the reigning drone king, slow down Bolton
>>64880746that nigger's not european LMAO, he's a brownoid pretending to be a euro.t. actual euro.
>>64880872nice try moshe
>>64880549Fuck it, if I wasn't such a retard I'd have taken the day off to go down to Mildenhall and watch the aeroplanes
>>64880882Nobody's ever been able to give me a straight answer on why "Moshe" suddenly displaced "Schlomo" as the new generic Jewish name to invoke as a slur. It feels like it just happened overnight at one point. My theory was that it's a posturing hipster thing, like everyone has heard "Schlomo," so using "Moshe" makes it look like you possess a deeper knowledge of Jew Stuff.
War is so based. Free the fuck out of them burgerbros.
iran needs to destroy UAE and Jordan as most of American strikes will come from that two country
>>64880996If only they had an air force...
>>64880999just strike the electric line and power stations delivering to Dubai. Once the AC is gone, that place will only suffer. For jordan, they need to target the hashemite palace only.
>>64881006It's winter. Daytime highs in the UAE are just slightly above room temperature.
>>64880996>>64881006Jordan is on comparatively positive terms with Israel. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel jumped on to help them out.
>>64880561>Regardless, what's the chance this ends up as nothingburger?I think 10%.You dint make that large movent of military just because after negotiations failed.You can move them as negations leverage ... but negotiations failed. Weare up to at least good bombing campaign. I am certain.
>>64881028George HW Bush left Norfolk last week too and when the War Dept was asked where it was going they jusr said "toward yurop." Something fucky is goin on.
>>64880549I'm absolutely sure it's happening. I have a friend who is a pilot in the chair force, and he spends all day playing video games because they don't ever do anything, but he's dropped off the face of the Earth these last couple days without saying a word.
Remember that the major polling orgs have simply stopped publishing approval ratings, things are looking so bad for he who shall not be named that he's forcing researchers to stop asking.Even that's not stopping the downward spiral so what else is there to do but start a major war.
>>64880581USS Abraham Lincoln and George Bush are already near the region. Gerald Ford is moving there but 12 days away.
>>64880943nta but a lot of zioshills on reddit were calling themselves "moshe" as a kind of ironic wink at people using jewish names as slurs, this has been going on for a couple of years now, presumably it got so widespread that people stopped caring if it was ironic or not
>>64881040>I have a friend who is a pilot in the chair force, and he spends all day playing video games because they don't ever do anythingmemes are real
>>64880943Every time shit here randomly happens or changes with no buildup or explanation I just assume it came from r*ddit, given the crossover between them and /pol/. And it looks like I was right >>64881059
>>64880581nice repost from pol
>>64881048>Remember that the major polling orgs have simply stopped publishing approval ratings>he's forcing researchers to stop asking....why would you lie about something so blatantly and obviously false? Are you retarded?
>>64881094Yeah I got contacted by a polling agency just last week. I told them to fuck off, but still. Not sure the purpose of such an absurd lie.
I checked /pol/ and all I see are """American""" flags talking about how china and russian assets and advisors will ensure America gets owned and it'll be a bloodbath and American carriers will be sunk etc.How are these thirdies so delusional after venezuela got rocked? It's actually tiresome reading these blatant propaganda posts it aggravates me out seeing such non stop delusion.
>>64881104After the Biden administration many of these poop skinned retards probably actually are in America now.
lol, lmao
>>64881110I'm not opposed to killing mudslimes, I'? opposed to babysitting them.
>>64881110Peace through burning brownoids with fire. Seems based to me.
>>64881104To be completely fair, Iran is at least ten times as hard of a target. Much of their leadership and population are very far inland as opposed to Maduro who was practically on the coast. We might actually lose one(1) solider this time lmao.
>>64881134Am I crazy or is that image from one of those chink propaganda pieces they think make Americans look bad but, in fact, make America seem awesome?
>>64881140are you 12?
>>64881140Iirc, American political cartoon. Something about Americans being death dealers (weapons dealer)
>>64880803>It sounds like the nuclear talks are progressing according to both sides.No one would ever go on record saying: "yeah we are basically gridlocked in the negotiations, nothing will come of this."
>>64881067>things happen on a site frequented by 1 in 8 adults and 100 in 10 bots worldwidewhoa
>>64881050Why are you lying? The Bush is in the Atlantic ocean not near Iran, and there is no public information that it’s headed to Iran
>>64881094>>64881102this is some interesting cope
>>64881220>gallupOkay so what about the other 50+ American polling companies?
>>64881313And what about the 50+ other tiny little newspapers that haven't been bought out by oligarchs? Who cares? Gallup is like the WSJ or the NYT, regardless of what you think of it, its name carries more weight with the general public than anyone else out there. You're moving the goalposts now btw.
>>64881327Good. Imperialism is based.
>>64881332But Biden was the warmonger...
>>64881330>major polling orgs>orgs>with an sAn "s" makes the word plural, Ranjeesh.
>>64881339>it didn't happen>ok it did but it wasn't important>ok it was important but but... 6 posts ago you described it as an "organization" and not an "agency", so you're probably indian!I accept your concession
>>64881353>yeah i used the plural form implying that all major us polling companies stopped tracking presidential approval>so what if it's really only one of 50+ and one that hasn't been relevant in nearly 20 years?Precise use of the English language is important, Ranjeesh. How did you fags remain a British colony for 300+ years and still fail to learn the language? Even Nigeria managed.
>>64880604Ah yes Trump/hegseth is well known for his calculated, restrained use of force
>>64881104>thirdies so delusional after venezuela got rocked?Payed shills to sway the narrative, trying to convince American public consensus against an action with fear of failure.Hey, it worked with most of GoP still thinking that Russia is dangerous and that they shouldn't anger the mighty nuclear bear.
>>64881375I'm married to a Russian woman, and she was at my mother in law's house in kuban when the war broke out, and I still wanted to bomb Russian troopa. People scared of war are weaklings and people scared of Russia are retarded weaklings.
>>64881360In the future, it would be less embarrassing for you to just switch to pajeetposting and skip the whole grammar nazi pretense, that way it will just come off as detachment and no one will notice how butthurt and desperate you sound
>>64881386Fascinating. So you got anyone else but Gallup? No?
>>64881136We bombed iran less than a year ago. They're acting like we've never been able to touch them. I wonder how the average Iranian views the US since we can just teleport in and blow shit up. >>64881140
>>64881385To be fair, the boomers still flinching from Russia have had the politicians of BOTH sides telling them how powerful and dangerous Ziggerstan is and how America would be in for a rough time and that's why billions should be given to Lockmart and Sneedtheyon just so we can deter the bear that should never be confronted. They've lived their entire lives conditioned to fear Russia.Not counting Patton, Nixon's "Axis of Evil" speech had the sternest shade cast on USSR in half a century, everyone else was pussyfooting in order not to offend. It's amazing Kennedy did what he did, and he got a shwacked for it.
>>64881395Remember that muzzies have 70iq. They have the selected memory of an expired tuna sandwich
>>64881212There's no good reason for people here to relish being culturally downstream of r*ddit so much. We need meme autarky.
>>64881140>that image from one of those chink propaganda pieces they think make Americans look badIt's a Russian strip. Iirc the peaceful Russian bear is holding a briefcase (of humanitarian aid? I forget) trying to enter a door labeled....something good, I think....and evil Uncle Skull is blocking his way.
>>64881413>russians also drawing americans to look basedWhy do thirdies keep doing this?
>>64880609Man he just wants their oil. That's all they gotta do to save their skin. This whole thing is a fucking shakedown.Nothing will happen. They'll give the oil and promise to cut the shit on their nukes. He'll claim victory, and the Israelis will lose their shit.Bet you $20.
>>64881417They're drawing America to be threatening for the same reason Americans were persuaded to believe Russia was threatening.Kind of. Thirdies do it to keep their people fearful and in line. Americans did it to keep the MIC money flowing (which is a good thing)
>>64881422>Russia was threatening.Russia has never not been threatening. Russian imperialism has been a hallmark of every Russian government since they started pushing their Third Rome bullshit. They're arrogant, paranoid, and they think the world belongs exclusively to them for their own personal use.
>>64881422Honestly I think if you given Americans the choice of their tax dollars being spent on weapons to shoot communists or on free healthcare for brown people the former would win by overwhelming margins until very recently in the country's history. But fair enough I guess.
>>64881434>They're arrogant, paranoid, and they think the world belongs exclusively to them for their own personal use.But enough about America
>>64881431Those are US bases in Europe. The US doesn't ask and, in the case of Germany, those bases were part of Germany's surrender in WW2. Much like Cuba and Guantanamo Bay Germany is never getting that land back.
>invading iranWhy would they even need to invade? Just bomb the shit out of their ports, refineries and regime headquarters and call it a day?
>>64881453>Just bomb the shit out of their ports, refineries and regime headquarters and call it a day?That's exactly what OP is referring to. No one is invading Iran.
>>64881431Yeah, US-EU military cooperation is still strong as ever.The contrast between real life and /pol/autists screeching on the internet is incredible.
>>64881464Until Greenland gets invaded.
>>64881493You think Greenland being invaded by China will push America and the EU apart?
>>64881497Being invaded by USA will pull EU and China closer together.
>>64881431>>Hey, uh Europe-kun, can we pleeeeeaaase use your airbases to move supplies and things, we really want to bomb some sand people for Israel>>64881464>Yeah, US-EU military cooperation is still strong as ever.Unfortunately, the orange shit-stain that is our current Commander-in-Chief will completely discount it just like he has discounted all allied contributions to anything so far.Transactional greedy president, please understand. Whatever you gave him you were a sucker for giving up without demanding something in turn, and he still has demands to make of you.Either way anyone remember this circa-2014 meme?. lol
>>64881497>You think Greenland being invaded by ChinaHe meant USA invading Greenland forcing EU away, not that Trump isn't undoing decade of alliance-building as it is.China or Russia invading Greenland is a pipe-dream.
>>64881444Hey, it's ok lil' buddy. We don't mind if you use our bases sometimes, it's all good. We know you're sometimes kinda retarded.
>>64880581we have the israelis in on it this tIme, 100+ aircraft . also bush still might come
>I am Pierre Baguette from le Europe, and I am tres concerned about le America invading le Greenland. I am thinking perhaps...le China is a more bien ally?
>>64881214the bush is 20 miles west of Gibraltar.
>>64881050Ford was about 500 miles away from Gibraltar around 8 hours ago. Lincoln a few hundred miles off the coast of Oman. I don't think anyone has seen/tracked the HW since about 4 days ago when it was about a 100 miles from Orlando.
>>64881538That's the Ford, dumbass.
Kinda hard to not feel dread about a war with Iran since literally every right-wing American president has dragged the world into a shitty forever war. They never fucking learn.
Didn’t Trump promise no more middle eastern wars?
>>64881534>also bush still might comeI keep forgetting that we made him into a carrier. At first I thought you were implying that Junior would personally come and throw down for old time's sake.Which would be kinda awesome ngl
This kind of irrational warmongering is a symptom of late-stage empires. Iran is not and cannot be a strategic threat to core US interests. The type of Americans who lurk /k/eddit do not understand this of course. They think there's no cost to this kind of retardation, but there always is. China is fucking retarded if it doesn't use this opportunity to give the US a bloody nose by flooding Iran with air defence, anti-ship missiles and radars.
>>64881546>every right-wing American president has dragged the world into a shitty forever warName one besides Dubya.
>>64881549Yea but the Nobel Committee told him to fuck off so now he is justified in starting shit.Also Iran kinda has it coming. I just wish they nuked Israel first.
>>64880581>Operation Desert Storm SIX CARRIERS>Operation Iraqi Freedom FIVE CARRIERSit does entertain me greatly knowing other countries are watching US carrier movement and there is nothing they can do about italso there is more American ground bases in the area now, is a ton of carriers really that necessary?
>>64881554>China is fucking retarded if it doesn't use this opportunity to give the US a bloody nose by flooding Iran with air defence, anti-ship missiles and radars.I, too, would love to see a bunch of impotent Chinese garbage get annihilated while Chinamen reee about how it doesn't count.
>>64881554>chinese...air defence, anti-ship missiles and radars.All worthless
>>64880695I'm sort of in fizzle gang this time. Not sure Trump really wants a war... might be using the buildup as a way to apply pressure for negotiations.I'm not even one of these anti-Israel/ZOG people but the way the Israeli press and their shills are hyping up a war is very cynical.
>>64881549Actually, it's good that we're going to war. Or do you support open borders and transing the kids? Iran should have just followed the law.
>>64881586>Israeli pressWhat press? Not Haaretz that's for sure.
>>64881537Since my post pointing out America relies on European bases for force projection apparently got deleted for hurting the feelings of the American people, is there really any difference between America and China?
>>64881550>we made him into a carrier.EVEN IN RETIREMENT, I SERVE
>>64881590Israeli T.V. channels like channel 12. There's a bunch of OSINT accounts that also hype up sizzle and quote them constantly. They've been saying it's imnet since early January. Haaretz is atypical for Israeli news.
>>64881507>please understand
>>64881596>my post pointing out America relies on European bases for force projection apparently got deletedQue? It's not this one?>>64881431Either way if your posts suddenly got got, that means you're about to get a 3 day vacation from 4chan.
>>64881554>This kind of irrational warmongering is a symptom of late-stage empires. Iran is not and cannot be a strategic threat to core US interests.Ah yes, a complete fucking idiot trying to tell us what is what.The Strait of Hormuz handles roughly 25% of the world's daily global crude oil flow. Iran's parliament has already approved measures to close it to everyone in the past. They won't be able to, long term, but fuckery in that narrow pass is not going to be good for A LOT of people short term. That's part 1.Part 2 is that China, which has no domestic oil production (minus a small part where the Uighur's live), imports upwards of 15% of their daily oil from Iran. Don't have to fuck with the South China sea if you can disrupt far away from their projection capabilities. So sorry, it costs more for you now, Chang! Deal with that along with your stagnation!Part 3, and this is a big one, is that a new, west friendly regime means a BIG opportunity for US investment into oil and gas. Part 4, one less place terrorists can operate out of. It's not irrational, there is serious money at play here and a chance to fuck China without putting the US military in harm's way.
>>64881587Sabbat shalom
>>64881603Uh oh. We are about to lose a good soldier. Fear not! He will return to us in 3 days, like baby Jesus.
>>64881630>implying he won't just reset his router and then start spamming mutt like it's DESU on old /b/
>>64881611>The Strait of Hormuz handles roughly 25% of the world's daily global crude oil flowThey only start talking about closing the strait when Americans threaten to attack them. Don't attack and they won't try to close it, just like the previous half a century. They probably won't try to close it even if the US does attack desu. >Don't have to fuck with the South China sea if you can disrupt far away from their projection capabilities.If China getting cheap oil is the issue, removing the sanctions on Iran would achieve the same thing without a need for bombs. The sanctions are the reason China is getting cheap oil.>Part 3, and this is a big one, is that a new, west friendly regime means a BIG opportunity for US investment into oil and gas.US firms were free to sign oil and gas deals with Iran after the JCPOA was signed lol. The Iranians immediately signed a massive deal with Boeing for a hundred passenger planes. It's insane how propagandized Americans are. It's like you people live in a completely different world where facts don't matter.>Part 4, one less place terrorists can operate out of.>muh heckin tewowismYou know someone's a retard when they say shit like this unironically.
>>64881554>irrational warmongering is a symptom of late-stage empires
>>64881636Nah I'm not gonna do that. I think it's funny to remind jingoistic americans that force projection depends on securing bases. I don't muttpost because I quite like Americans normally. I don't understand why they're such dickheads to us generally though.
>>64880549yeah. US will bomb Iran this weekend
>>64880735Pretty good so far?
>>64881637Oh fuck, you're the idiot I was destroying last night in the Russia thread. Welcome back, fucktard. >If China getting cheap oil is the issue, removing the sanctions on Iran would achieve the same thing without a need for bombs. The sanctions are the reason China is getting cheap oil.It's not the price, it's the availability. You don't replace 15% of your daily use overnight by just calling around. That's like 1.65 million barrels of oil you'd have to replace right then.>US firms were free to sign oil and gas deals with Iran after the JCPOA was signed lolYou mean the deal that every Republican candidate said they were going to end the second it passed? Investment didn't happen the year before an election? Goddamn you're fucking stupid.> The Iranians immediately signed a massive deal with Boeing for a hundred passenger planesWhich was cancelled because of above. >It's insane how propagandized Americans are. It's like you people live in a completely different world where facts don't matter.You live in a world that doesn't matter, so I guess we have that in common?
>>64881543whatever
>>64881641>I don't understand why they're such dickheads to us generally thoughWe're not, even though we find you guys stuck up and high on your own farts, we pretend to ignore your aloofness out of civility and because we understand that's just the way you are and that's perfectly OK.The sudden increase in anti-Euro sentiment online (especially here) is entirely manufactured by paid shills and Scott Ritter types for the purposes of dividing the Euro-atlantic alliance. Russia's old playbook.Trump will be gone. Yes, he's doing damage, but we have to have faith in one another as white first-worlders. Stay strong!
>>64881651>you're the idiot I was destroying last night in the Russia threadNope, not me.Anyway, it's clear from your response that you're proud of your ignorance. No point in debating anything with your kind.
>>64881048>implying the fucking polling orgs were ever in favor of t-money
>>64880549I don't think anything will come of this... which is also what I said the day before we raided Venezuela. On this topic, I'm not a fan of our Israel First policies, but there are times when the stars (and stripes) align and it results in something great. The thought of Russia, four years into a three-day SMO, watching >Iran sit there and take it as we bomb them with 30-year old planes, their air defense cuckolds either unable or too scared to fight back >the US pulling up to the capital of a country on a different continent, launching an air assault, achieving a technically infinite kill/death ratio, capturing their president, and leaving in under three hours >us possibly gearing up for Iran round two seething the whole time is so funny. I support the occasional precision stomping of uppity Russia-aligned third worlders.
>>64881104You saw the same shit for like a month before Maduro got snatch
>>64881641The US represented 40% of the world GDP after world war two.Now it's 25%. It's still enormous, but the US is slowly but surely losing power, which makes some americans extremely aggressive for some reason.
Can we bomb Brown people every weekend for the love of the game? or would that be a war crime, don't you say it's a war crime if you enjoy it.
>>64881641chinkshill, just give it up at this point
>>64881659Chink
God, speed this shit up already.I want my oil stonks to go up even more, and I want them to go HARD and FAST.
Tactical and strategical advantage of mocking your enemies as your country is surrounded by their navy?
>>64881611>Part 2 is that China, which has no domestic oil production (minus a small part where the Uighur's live), imports upwards of 15% of their daily oil from IranThey will get it from Russia, plus they are already in process of replacing their oil for energy use with nuclear and solar power(plus coal). Same with cars and transport, they are full on electric and aggressively replacing combustion engine cars.
>>64881694either they get invaded no matter what, in which case they get to look cool before getting obliterated, which is better than groveling and then getting obliterated anyway. or the invasion is contingent upon their groveling on twitter, which seems pretty unlikely. or, there's not going to be an invasion, in which case this makes future attempts to intimidate less convincing.I mean, what would you do? grovel?
>>64881659I want you to know that you don't matter and every portion of your lineage didn't matter because they amounted to you and your shit ass country.
>>64881735I would say nothing and instead devote my time to preparing a military responseYou know, dispersing valuable assets, caching food, water and small arms in case there is a ground invasion, warning civillians and advising them of what to do if shit kicks off, that sort of thingLooking cool is far less important than being ready
>>64881752ok but this guy is like the head of state or something, right? so it's other people's jobs to manage the military situation, and it's his job to represent the country internationally. if it's iran vs the US military, any kind of last minute prep is just like, "where do you want to be sitting when you die". so I would argue that looking like a tough guy on twitter is actually more productive, in this situation.
>>64881752>caching food, water and small arms in case there is a ground invasion, warning civillians and advising them of what to doAnd why would the people that were shot by this guy a few weeks prior should listen to him?I think I'll use this weapon cache for something else, myself.
yeah looks like he's "supreme leader" which is:> the de facto head of state and the highest political and religious authority of Iran (above the president). The armed forces, judiciary, state radio and television, and other key government organizations such as the Guardian Council and Expediency Discernment Council are subject to the supreme leaderso basically like the super president. in most countries the president calls the shots but the finer details are delegated. I mean imagine the president of a country about to go to war, driving around in a pickup truck dropping caches of small arms and ammo. if that ever happens it's theater. same as shitposting on twitter, but for a domestic audience
>>64881722>They will get it from RussiaNot without OPEC+ approval, kek. Even if they had free reign to do so, they're already at max production (~9 million barrels a day). Add 1.65 million barrels a day to your output? This isn't a problem you solve over night or over the summer. > plus they are already in process of replacing their oil for energy use with nuclear and solar power(plus coal).Photovoltaics are a joke; for all intents and purposes we're already at Shockley-Queisser limit. China is still far, far from energy independence. You don't replace 70% of your oil supply and 40% of your natural gas supply overnight with a billion solar panels and batteries.As far as nuclear reactors, they won't surpass us in GW for another 10 years (and we've got far less demand). Perfect time to turn the screws, especially considering how shitty their economy is doing now.
>>64881760He is indeed the guy who gives the orders, which is why he should be doing that instead of talking shit on twitter
>>64880549Don’t pull shit while I’m asleep Trump, not again
>>64881778>Photovoltaics are a jokeThey sure are doing a good job displacing coal and gas fired generation for something that is just a jokeEspecially given they are doing this with no subsidies at all while thier competition remains heavily subsidised
>>64881507That did NOT age well lmaopossibly the picture that aged least-well in human history
>>64881780and how do you know he even wrote that tweet? it seems to me you're jerking off now, which is something I can't understand. obviously the USA can turn the entire country into ashes, everyone can see that including iran, what more is there to say about that. if it was like USA vs China then sure, let's jingo it up, put on the war paint and act like it's a football game. iran? is there any question of who would "win" the military engagements?going through this guy's wiki article there's plenty of bad shit you can say about him but "he should be inspecting the troops" is weak shit.
>>64880549>Massive Air Movementshaha oh you smelled that? haha I ate curry sorry about that
in fact, let's think about this some more. it says he's 86 years old. he's a religious maniac. so probably, trying not to broadcast his location to the CIA, etc. and probably not much for "doomscrolling"so the odds that he's got his phone on him with twitter installed and he's actually typing things are approximately zero. Iran devotes a lot of energy to information warfare, so obviously they're going to have a bunch of broccoli heads in a bunker somewhere coming up with zingers to post for foreign consumption
>>64881792>They sure are doing a good job displacing coal and gas fired generation for something that is just a jokeWhere? China? 10% domestic energy via 2.7 billion panels? I just Googled it, they're at $0.50 a watt per cost, 1080W production, so $540 billion invested so far (it's actually far greater, I'm just using their current costs to simplify things). Only need another 24 billion panels while your shadow lending is stretched thin. Just for shits and giggles, that will cost $4.86 trillion (they budget less than a trillion a year on this, and not solely photovoltaics). Keep it at, Chang, hope your country solves their stagnation first!
>>64881821>nly need another 24 billion panels while your shadow lending is stretched thin. Just for shits and giggles, that will cost $4.86 trillionDon't google how much EU needs to spend for Green Deal to achieve it's targets.
>>64881821>Only need another 24 billion panels while your shadow lending is stretched thin. Just for shits and giggles, that will cost $4.86 trillion These values aren't really that extraordinary. EU spends more.>To reach the 2030 target, the Commission estimates that an additional €477 billion of green investment will be needed each year, equivalent to 3.2% of 2023 GDP.[4] In sum, total green investment of around €1.2 trillion each year, equivalent to 8.3% of 2023 GDP, is neededhttps://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/economic-bulletin/articles/2025/html/ecb.ebart202501_03~90ade39a4a.en.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com
>>64881844>These values aren't really that extraordinary. EU spends more.Spoiler, neither has money. 30% of Chinese industrial firms don't produce profit, for example, the house of cards are about to collapse.
I hope America bombs Iran, then Russian, then China, then Russia again, then Brussels.Canada seem like fags too but they're far away so I defer to the burger's judgement on them.
>>64881852>the house of cards are about to collapse.Yes, two more weeks.
I'll let the other EUtards ruin themselves burning money and throwing the cinders into a black hole, I'll enjoy my beautiful clean and reliable good old nuclear while watching them.
>>64881854hey fuck you buddy
>>64881856Xi can only do so many more purges to keep absolute power.
China's been about to collapse in 2 weeks for about 10 years
>>648818792 week special economic operation.
>>64881856>Yes, two more weeks.Oh stop, you can't apply tropes to everyone with an understanding/assessment. This is going to be a slow, downward spiral until 2050. We're at the start of China's equivalent of Japan's "lost decade".
>>64881887This is why we need to import one billion pajeets before China realizes all the amazing doctors and engineers they are missing out on.
>>64880943It is exactly to be different than your neighbor, I have been progra-it's not a big deal, and it's fun! Keep using it.
>>64881821Australia
>>64881048it would not be majorto us
>>64881798Holy shit bro I akready know you think highly of your supreme leader, we don't need the wall of textAll I'm saying is that if I were leading a country under imminent threat of attack I wouldn't be talking shit (or ordering people to talk shit) on twitter, even my interns would have more important things to do
>>64880837Vance won’t win the Republican primary, Rubio will.
>>64881852>30% of Chinese industrial firms don't produce profit,that number doesn't tell me much given how different they do things over there. can you even own shares in those companies? what are the incentives to "post a profit" vs not, if you're publishing data on, say, a state owned defense company. do they want to show that their weapons manufacturers are making big money from the government? or is that bad optics? see what I mean?>>64881919so in other words, you think this guy is actually shitposting from his phone. might as well just upload his coordinates into the targeting computers of the nearest ballistic missile sub. you have told yourself this story, because in the football game in your mind, it makes america "win" just to assume the leader of a foreign country is that stupid. and I must be an iran shill because I think he must be at least of average intelligence to have gotten himself into that position and survived all this time. pathetic.
>>64881656Societies with functional plumbing should stand united with each other.
>>64880777>they could take care of the fucking refugees that they causeWe need take care of the refugees from 30 thousand feet with Lockheed Martin's finest
>>64881048Get to the front lines Ivan the meat /k/ube is hungry
>>64881942>can you even own shares in those companies? what are the incentives to "post a profit" vs not, if you're publishing data on, say, a state owned defense company. do they want to show that their weapons manufacturers are making big money from the government? or is that bad optics? see what I mean?How archaic is your understanding? Private ownership is a real thing over there.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-06-12/xi-keeps-china-s-unprofitable-businesses-alive-to-save-jobs-and-avoid-unrest
>>64880581OPERATIONGLASSTHEBASTERDS2026>#MAKEPERSIAHISTORYAGAIN>#JUSTICEFORJAYSEVERINUSA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
>>64881963paywalled, but yes, I understand there exists a form of a stock market over there, but I also know that it's an extremely restricted market, and the way shares are traded is so different that my westoid understanding of how that shit works is basically useless. I'm sure xi is keeping unprofitable businesses alive for political reasons, just like in every country, but how much of that "lack of profit" looks like a state bailout, vs an amazon situation where they look after their shareholders by appreciation rather than dividends because growth is the name of the game now in the rest of the worldlike maybe "this much money was spent bailing out companies" would be a better metric or better yet "this share of the national budget was spent...", I just find "profit" arguments to be so vague as to be untrustworthy, that applies to western market discussions as well
>>64881981>but how much of that "lack of profit" looks like a state bailout,Depends which bank you're asking about. To keep the industrial firms, and others, afloat, China relies on "zombie lending", which is the state bailout. Then you have shadow lending, which is loans outside of the regulated sector and those spurred immense growth between 2012-2016. Shadow lending is undergoing massive contraction at the moment - they're losing money left and right like our sub-prime mortgage crisis in 2007-2009.Back to zombie lending, they're at overcapacity as of 2024 according to US metrics. Speaking of the sub-prime mortgage crisis, the Chinese zombie lending model is much of the same except instead of packaging bad debts into tranches, they just roll over all the bad debts into one firm and write it off. Unsustainable.
>>64881442I'll be real with you, that might be our foreign policy now, but it hasn't been for the past century and it won't be in a few years.If we rule the world, we've been remarkably hands off for most of it.
Someone give me a (you) if something actually happens. I'll keep this thread in my thread watcher.
>>64881858>clean and reliable >nuclear>in Francelast summer your reactors were overheating due to lack of cooling water, France.Even fucking Denmark was better off with their wind turbines.
>>64880560>Experience leads me to believe it's just slightly more than routineWe both know it's brinksmanship and Trumpinator excels at nonpoker face, with a flare. But when we buried the enriched unramium under fuck tons of rubble, it was bolt out of the blue war fighting. So.
>>64882041didn't they have something of a "sub prime mortgage crisis" of their own a few years back? I seem to remember headlines that an implosion is any minute now, and then nothing. so I assume that was bailed out, just like they're doing with private equity or "shadow lending" as I guess they call it. china has a way of letting things build into a crisis, sweeping in and executing a couple of people to send a message, and then sweeping the whole thing under the rug>>64882047that is 100% not true, but we did a lot of the "handsy" stuff using weapons other than guns and bombs. what do you think USAID was, a charity? I mean yeah it looks better to call it that than to call it what it was, which was replacing entire segments of the private sector in a lot of poor countries, and inserting our own people. sometimes to twist arms, but more often just to be there. if people see you there, you don't have to say "we could twist your arm", that's understood
>>64882094lolno>oh no, river is 0.8°C higher than the 10-years average this year due to sunny summer>greentard norms dictates it water should be X°C, not X+0.8°C or otherwise, uuuuh, fish will die or something? Surely they can't whistand a 0.8°C water temperature variation, they even all die when we go from winter to summer.>therefore 1 reactor was slowed down for a week>at a time where electricity is barely needed anywayoh no the horror!Tell me you get your news from fucking /pol/ clickbait Xitter headlines, without telling me you're a fuckturd doing so.
>>64882094Don't worry. Climate change is fake and gay. River levels will stay the same. Drought seasons will not increase in severity and length.
>>64882115>didn't they have something of a "sub prime mortgage crisis" of their own a few years back?Brother, it's still happening. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_property_sector_crisis_(2020%E2%80%93present)
>>64882094this never happened btw. The ecology party claimed on all media outlets that it will happen tho, but it did not happen and we sold 50% of our power to germs and other retarded countries that we should just nuke out of existence
>>64882132My nigger this happens every year.
>>64882059>Someone give me a (you) if something actually happens. HAPPEDING
I just want to go back to a world where Europeans and Americans are in agreement that we need to have powerful militaries in order to kill all the communists and 3rd world browns because they're fucking shit. Is that so much to ask? Why were boomers allowed to ruin literally everything?
>>64881939Source?
>>64882152
>>64882132It does happen, but it's a literal nothing burger, and if the need arise, then fuck off with the environmentalist norms. The fishes won't die.>>64882148From your very fucking OrbanNews articleNow fuck off with your retardation. What's more, this is the very proof that nuclear is controllable and adjustable.Meanwhile greenmemetards enjoyed a full day of a country-wide blackout is Spain and Portugal, and they can thank France for sending the energy that kicked back enough power to restart everything including emergency nodes, else they would have experienced a longer and more catastrophic blackout.
>>64880604lol
>>64880609Iran rightfully believes America is incapable of independent negotiations because Israel is pushing for regime change. Why the fuck would Iran even consider negotiations? Even if by some miracle the negotiations were productive they would just get sabotaged by Israel because Israel is set on going to war with Iran.
>>64881641This >>64881656I've lived all over the US, including the South and with the exception of some insincere jests the general sentiment is positive. Anyone who says otherwise is a chink or zigger
>>64880549Maybe. Could also just be posturing for maximum diplomatic pressure.
>>64881554>China is fucking retarded if it doesn't use this opportunity to give the US a bloody nose by flooding Iran with air defence, anti-ship missiles and radars.How did that work out for Venezuela?
>>64882303It could happen a thousand times over and thirdies still wouldn't be able to accept that the US might as well be using space magic when compared to the chinks and vatniks. They are delusional.
>>64881140>>64881413>they don't know about "Le cuck" LatuffI bet you fags don't know who Horsey or Ben Garrison are either.
>>64881638the russian mind is truly something else
>>64882206I love for the day when your thought leaders switch over to "actually climate change was real all along and that's why we need fascism" and I at least no longer have to constantly hear your bullshit
>>64882439*I live for the day
>>64882439Climate change is real and you destroying your economy so you become completely dependent on china is not going to solve itEven if you ended all co2 emissions in Europe, you won't stop it
>>64881554>Iran is not and cannot be a strategic threat to core US interests>a belligerent nuclear power right next door to other OPEC countries with anti-US sentiments is not a threatSaddam was deposed for less.
>>64881554China can't risk exposing their equipment isn't invincible. There's always an excuse: The Houthis were using the monkey model stuff, Russia used it wrong, Venezuelans turned their air defense off because they were bribed. And Iran does deserve to have its teeth kicked in. Not just because they support terrorists and militants, but because they're annoying loudmouths always trying to act tough. And they're doing it against an administration that was already looking for reason to strike. They deserve it for being stupid.
When did /k/ become so pro Israel this is weird. It’s like bizarro world compared to 10 years ago.
>>64882484/k/ has always been NATO adjacent due to being primarily American and British English speakers. There used to be a contingent of Warsaw Pact adjacent posters but they've all left or been forced into hiding since the 2022 Ukraine Invasion.>but what about the people who have kneejerk hatred for Israel because of muh Palestine or muh Jews?Stop basing your political worldview on countries you hate, it's not good for your mental health. I personally hope everyone in the entire Middle East has fun.
>>64881140I don't have the original, but yeah.I swear I shit talk my nation every day and hate how wayward it seems, and that it lacks a unifying vision of the future that a representative government requires to function. But then I look at its 'near-peers' and 'rivals' and end up convinced that they're just going to implode before we do out of sheer incompetence. >WE'RE THE BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD PEOPLE>WE INVENTED REALITY TV>WE SUBSIDIZE CORN TO MAKE ETHANOL FOR GASOLINE AT A NEGATIVE ENERGY ROI>ITS A LAND OF CHRONICALLY ILL, SSRI POPPING, WELFARE RECIPIENTS>WE THOUGHT UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE WAS SMARTSeriously, HOW ARE THEY LOSING to us? Is the faustian spirit meme just that powerful?
>>64882484Anti-Iran != Pro-Israel
>>64882148> I don't know anything about nuclearYou need water to cool down a reactor. If the river water level is too low it becomes unsafe so you wait until drought is over.
I hope Israel and Iran mutually destroy each other
>>64881104I hope it's actual Americans trying to goad Russia into starting a fight with us. God knows they need an excuse to be liberated from the ghost of the USSR still looming over their necks.
>>64882484I don't like Israel, I just really hate pirates after what Somalia did to Somaliland, and modern Iran is basically just a front for their activities so seeing an entire country of them get occupied and arrested is based.
>>64880610you'll get shot down and I'll laugh about it
Going to waste another hundred billion dollars keeping the us navy stationed off the coast of iran like they did in venezuela, to end up keeping the regime intact without the rube at the top again, very jewisheven got the tranime pedofag from /ptg/ in the thread
>>64880549Meanwhile in Pyongyang......
>>64882484>When did /k/ become so pro Israel this is weirdThe Russian invasion of Ukraine mindbroke a lot of people for some reason. That's when /k/ went to shit.
>>64880837>You'd think Trump of all people would realize how futile that isAre we talking about the same retard that has spent over a year trying to get a """deal""" between Ukraine and Russia? Trump is a senile pedo, he won't realize shit.
>>64882673>liberated from the ghost of the USSRussr was just another incarnation of what muscovy has always been, just inflated from all the gibs US fed them since the 1930s to larp as a world power(which also applies to all the previous times their state has been relevant).
>>64882835>The Russian invasion of Ukraine mindbroke a lot of peoplnamely slavaboos and their adjacent turdies
>>64882740There are more image models out there than ChatGPT you know.
>>64882484The ZOG bots came
>>648824844chan is jew owned and jew dominated for the last couple years, thats why this board looks like it looks like. >OH YEAH LETS RUIN ANOTHER MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRY FOR NO REASON GOYIMpure insanity. >netanyahu was flying to washington every 5 minutes to blackmail america into destroying iran>after 9000 trips, netanyahu finally convinced trumpsad and cringe. jews are trying to squeeze in one last massacre on the goyim before america turns into a fascist state and kicks the jews out.
>>64883002>4chan is jew owned and jew dominated for the last couple yearsThe only board on 4chan that is like this is /k/.
>>64883017/pol is just as jew infested, last years IP leak after a hack proved that 90% of all posts on pol are just jews using meme flags or VPN's.
>>64883002america is committing political suicide by bombing iran, the whole world will shift to china as the leader, and watching america cry when this happens will be hysterical.
>>64882484>one of the most military successful country.>Literally fought 6 invading countries and won.>killed minorities.>produced lot of weapons like Merkava, Negev, Uzi, and Tavor.>mandatory conscription so everyone know how to handle weapons including women.Israel is pretty much the most /k/ountry in the world. Why wouldn't /k/ side with them?
>>64883029>one of the most military successful country.lol
>>64882991>>64883002Brown
>>64883027>china upholding their decades long tradition of doing absolutely nothing when america facerolls china's "allies" will totally make people want to ally with china
>>64883035After you beat your enemy so hard your victory is called a genocide, how much more completely can you win?
>>64883041>>64883042>>64883043here is a list of goyim who think jews are "good at war":-----i wonder what pedo pics netanyahu showed trump on his last trip to washington that finally convinced him to bomb iran.
>>64883048Israel stacked the bodies of Iran's military leadership, fucked up their air defenses, and bombed them with impunity.
>>64883050Never happened, it's all zionazi propaganda.
>>64883050anime title?
>>64883052>comparing jews to nazisI thought your goal was to make us NOT like Israel?
>>64883052>>64883054cope denial.
>>64883056>goyim realized that nazis were literally just jews doing judaism>goyim realized israel is literally just nazi germany but in a desertaww geez, the goyim cought up.
>>64883059>cope denial.never heard of that anime, must be new.
>>64883029>Why wouldn't /k/ side with them? because israeli people suck. theyre ALL nepotists.
>>64883029>Why wouldn't /k/ side with them?why would we be? they are quite literally the biggest losers in human history.
>>64883062>if it hurts my feelings, it must be animei'm sorry you depart from reality when the humiliation gets to be too much for you anon, but not everyone is like that.
>>64883084the entire planet knows israel lost the 12 day war with Iran, crying wont change that fact.
>>64882835it really mindbroke contrarian ziggers yeah, they couldn't handle the fact that the basedtrad saviour of the west was actually just a failed brown shithole.
>>64883085>b-but my feelingsfacts don't care about your feelings, sorry buddy.what is it with brownoids and losing harder every time because they refuse to even acknowledge their last loss?
>>64883091who are you quoting, sweetie?
>>64883060>>goyim realized israel is literally just nazi germany but in a desertSo again, if that is the case, why wouldn't we be rooting for Israel?
>>64883125why would we be rooting for israel? >well because, just like nazi germany, israel is killing whites and destabilising the westthats a reason to hate both of them, not like them. are you retarded or something?
>>64883132>muslims>whiteAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHHH
>>64883093you, just now. why did you get so emotional?mind you, i don't actually like jews, but the fascination for me lies in you guys not actually effectively fighting them because you refuse to learn any lessons. the brownoid mind is an enigma.
>>64883137who are you quoting, sweetie?
>>64883048>i wonder what pedo pics netanyahu showed trump on his last trip to washington that finally convinced him to bomb iran.there goes trumps nobel peace prize, lmao.
