What's the point of carrying your rifle like this? It seems like it would be more tiring. Should I be doing this when I'm training innawoods?
Like I guess these guys have experience and know what they're doing, but this shit looks goofy to me.
And what is the purpose of the stick? Won't that make him a target?
>>65541766It seems like it's partially sitting on the plate carrier, putting most of the weight on the torso and letting the arms rest a little
More tiring than what? It requires minimum force moment. It's not my preference but I don't believe it's gonna exhaust the user.Modern engineering means this guy's rifle weighs half of what it would have fifty years ago, but modern doctrine means he's humping at least 25 pounds of other crap he wouldn't have had to carry back then.
>>65541776>>65541779But what about the tactical stick?
>>65541779>Modern engineering means this guy's rifle weighs half of what it would have fifty years agoIt's 2026 anon. Fifty years ago they were still using AR's.
>>65541773That's the talking stick
>why would someone pose for a propaganda photo
>>65541766Like in that pic? Because it’s comfy and it lets you rest your arms, I’m the poggiest pog and I would rest my M4 on my TAP during my ruck marches.
>>65541789Yup, we were already out of Vietnam by 1976, the main US rifle was the M16A1
>>65541773>>65541786The stick is to poke/pull trip wires, wires in general or other weird and suspicious shit you find on patrol.
>>65541851How is this propaganda?
>>65541766>training innawoods
>>65541773Look at the open countryside they're in. If you're close enough to see the stick, they almost definitely could already see you. Plus if they were concerned about not being seen / targeted they almost certainly wouldnt be in such an open area in broad daylight.
>>65541887Why would there be tripwires in a field of pretty flowers?
>>65541892Why were they patrolling in some random field?
>>65541766>it seems like it would be more tiringLook closer. He's resting the rifle on his mag pouches.
>>65541894for a fun surprise
>>65541766That is what you do when you're tired anon. He's resting the mag of his rifle on his other mags to take the weight off his arms. It looks like you're actually holding it ready from behind, but you're simply being lazy.
>>65541766>poppiesHas anyone ever done opium? Does it really feel that good?
>ywn get paid to walk around and pick flowers
>>65541931Nobody bothers with opium in the 21st century. It's all codeine, heroin and fent
>>65541931Morphine and other opiates FEEL amazing but I also get nauseous when I was administered them (appendicitis) think a combination of the fattest nut you ever busted, the full body warmth of a shot of hard liquor, a mouthful of the best chicken soup, and the best bubble bath ever, and make that feeling last for hours.
>>65541887Based AF. I wonder how many brothers that fucking thing killed before this hero slayed it.
>>65541894>>65541899It's a poppy field.Those pretty flowers are a lovely accoutrement to a seed pod full of diluted opium.They were like one of the most profitable crops you could grow in Afghanistan.The fields were booby trapped so that any Interlopers seeking quick money via midnight harvest would get turned into a meat shower to fertilize the fields.Patrols were clearing these quasi-legal fields for explosives, maybe before the fields themselves would be plowed under to prevent drug production, which could undermine "nation building" attempts.
>>65541931>Has anyone ever done opium? I did, two times when I was in my late teens, like twenty years ago. It was exceptionally uncommon (mostly because if you were a drug manufacturer, why would you make opium when you could just produce heroin instead and make more money?), and when given the chance I figured I'd see what ruined China way back in the day>Does it really feel that good?Yeah. It really felt THAT good. There's a reason why it was so popular.I've never done anything stronger than that, but from my experience, I can definitely understand why people get so addicted to stronger opiates so quickly.
>>65541766Cuz it's the least crappy way to hold it while still kind of having it at the ready.
>>65541899The opium must flow!
>>65541984Why spend the time clearing the fields for explosives? Just firebomb them.
>>65541971>>65541996Oh man, my neighbor has poppies...
>>65542386That means his neighbor has oil.
Are you really asking advice on how to walk and carry a rifle at the same time?
>americans whose entire life consists of getting up from a couch and driving from the suburb to a walmart where they switch to mobility scooterif you have to carry something for a long time you will end up alternating grips to rest your muscles and ligaments and prevent paralysing cramps
>>65541861If anything the modern guys rifle is heavierWith the optic, kac rail, laser module, and m203 his shit probably weighs 13-14 lbsAn A1 with ubgl is maybe 10 tops
>>65541851When you enlist that's part of the contract
>>65541894there was a whole back-and-forward that happened for years regarding the poppies. like initially youd just burn the crops (or I believe the bongs paid them to burn their own crops at one point, which just encouraged more crops being planted to get a larger payout), but if you do that then the farmer is broke until next spring, so he goes off and joins the Taliban. So the response to that was to pay the farmers to grow alternative crops, but that rarely stuck as nothing is as profitable as opium and the Taliban put more pressure on the farmers regardless of how much you pay them. So for a while there was an idea kicked around of buying opium directly off the farmers in order to deprive the Taliban of a revenue stream as well as potential recruits, but the DEA opposed it (anything related to opium or weed in Afghanistan was handled by DEA personnel, so they had some say in that despite of being a domestic agency) and I dont think it went any further. so in the end the poppies stayed, and regular patrols took place as a show of force. the taliban noticed that US personnel would patrol around the fields, so they placed IEDs along those paths. In response, US personnel patrolled through the fields. In response, Taliban placed IEDs in the fields. In response, marines patrolled through the fields slower and taking more irregular paths. So on, so on. This continued until at least 2015, but was probably still happening in some form until the drawdown.
>>65542667>back-and-forward
>>65542667good summary
>>65542667So when the US needs human mine clearing, it calls the Marines? Interesting
>>65542597At roughly 7lbs loaded, plain M16A1 with a pencil barrel is shockingly light compared to modern combat rifles that are loaded up with 10lbs of rails, optics, vertical fore grips, lights, and laser modules.
>>65542890funny how rifles like the original AR-15/M16A1 were developed to give soldiers a lighter rifle and reduce their load; now people cram so much stuff on their rifles that the weight savings are almost negateda stock AK with a steel magazine probably weighs less than a modern AR-style rifle with optics, light/laser, pizza slicer, etc.
>>65541766Search for 'belfast cradle' OP. It's by far the best carry if you need to go prone fast. Hallmark of a real pro.
>>65542906A Type-3 AK-47, that has a receiver milled from rectangular steel bar stock weighs 7.7 pounds, including the cleaning kit but not the mag.A Mk18 mod 4 weighs a hair under 6 lbs, not including the mag, and that's when the rifle is completely stripped, and not even having iron sights.Loaded up with optics and accessories they're around 9-10lbs, and they obviously get heavier when you slap a can on the end of that chode barrel, which is almost mandatory given the muzzle blast of 10" 5.56 rifles.So final weight with a can, around 11lbs. That's as heavy as an unloaded RPK light machine gun.
>>65542937>Loaded up with optics and accessories they're around 9-10lbs, and they obviously get heavier when you slap a can on the end of that chode barrel, which is almost mandatory given the muzzle blast of 10" 5.56 rifles.>So final weight with a can, around 11lbs. That's as heavy as an unloaded RPK light machine gun.Please tell me you're joking. They get that heavy just from adding accessories?
>>65541766When hiking some people swear by the trade off of carrying with both hands instead of a sling. I don't get it but I've seen them do it on day and night long marches
>>65542667Funny thing is that when the Taliban first took over, they banned poppy farming and since it is haram and almost eradicated it. But then the US invaded, so the Taliban decided might as well kill Yankees indirectly by selling opium to infidels.
>>65542497My car broke months ago, I ride my bike more than the Dutch ride
>>65542980Ounces become pounds, anon.
>>65543414Zommers these days don't know the ancient deep knowledge gained from watching all 3 different gun channels there were on YT back in like 2009.
>>65543552>when you nut but she keeps duracoating
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>>65541766He's resting it on his mags. You can't sling your weapons in situations like this, I don't know if he's guarding that poppy field or what but if you sling your weapon you're not only a soft target but you've also condemned your buddy who has his rifle unslung to be shot first. You can't just carry your weapon at high ready all the time, you can't sling it.. so this
>>65541766It's just retarded american geewotti trend.
>>65541887No this is the poppy cutting/opium collecting stick. This is the tactical version for collecting opium around corners or from a distance
>>65541773It's for spiderwebs between trees, so you don't suddenly have a big nasty hairy fucker on your face when you're walking in the woods.
>>65541931Yes.
>>65543935that makes sense
some context
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