I realize most people weren't waiting, but ATF finally issued
yeah
Does this mean one can buy NFA items in private sales at gun shows now?
>>65573794nice
https://www.atf.gov/media/30961/download
>>65573794>>65573794>>65573794So thats it? Its over? Suppressors, SBS, SBR, AOW are now 4473 legal?
>>65573794holy shit, did we actually fucking win?
>>65573819AWOOOOOOOGAAAAFREEEEEDOOOMMM
>>65573794THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP
>>65573805and also not at gunshows
>>65573834It was bound to happen. Now if only we get the registry for transferrable machine guns opened up again or do away with their regulations beyond a 4473 already
>>65573794Source?
>>65573845See>>65573812The ATF themselves
>>65573845Nevermind wasn't seeing it being indexed on search engines:https://www.atf.gov/news/press-releases/atf-issues-guidance-national-firearms-act-transfers-short-barreled-rifles-short-barreled-shotguns-suppressors-and-certain-other-firearms
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/update-to-nfa-transfer-guidance
https://youtu.be/I48Jq5KGC_4
Alright soHow does the apply to shipping NFA (or formerly NFA items) from a distributor to an FFL?
>>65573794holy shit! I didn't expect to win this hard.
>>65573794>> Consequently, effective October 9, 2026, ATF will no longer require individuals to seek ATF approval under the NFA before making or transferring short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, silencers, and “any other weapon[s]” as defined in 26 U.S.C. § 5845(e). ATF will also no longer require such items to be registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record. These policies apply uniformly to anyone otherwise subject to these requirements, not just to the plaintiffs in the litigation.Total (Gungrabber) Death
>>65573794I just woke upWhat's happening
>>65573865Answering myself >Does an FFL need ATF approval to sell silencers or any other weapons to another FFL in an interstate transaction?>No. Traditionally, ATF would have approved transactions between SOT (Special (Occupational) Taxpayer) FFLs on a Form 3. ATF will not require such forms. Form 3s may be submitted voluntarily.I think that covers my question.
What does this mean for us in cuck states? ATF no longer requires forms but NC requires it with how our laws are written
>>65573880It's happening. SBRs, SBSs, AOWs, suppressors are de facto off the NFA and can be bought, sold, and transferred like any other firearm.
>>65573794>ATF will no longer require individuals to seek ATF approval under the NFA before making or transferring short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, silencers, and "any other weapon[s]" Holy shit
I wish we could sticky thread for visibility.
>Under ATF’s guidance, ATF will not enforce the requirements for individuals to apply and receive ATF approval before making or transferring short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, suppressors (silencers), and certain other concealable firearms known in the law as “any other weapons.” ATF also will not enforce the NFA’s registration, tax-stamp or related requirements for those covered items. The $200 tax remains in place for machine guns and destructive devices. The NFA requirements apply in full to those weapons. The guidance does not supersede state and local laws that restrict NFA firearms. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/update-to-nfa-transfer-guidance
LON HORIUCHI, IM COMING TO KILL YOU(not really, just memeing)
>>65573917Pen guns legal now
>>65573917>does not supersede state lawsFUCK MY NIGGER LIFE
>>65573929You want the feds to violate state rights? What are you, Californian? West Virginia?
>>65573929just move, retard
Good job goyim, we're 10% of the way to reclaiming all of our supposed rights that we supposedly had in the 1920s and before. we're doing so well. It only took us 92 years to reverse just a small part of the NFA.
I live in pa, can I just put a stock on my draco now?
>>65573931NC :(>>65573935Will be moving soon. Kinda
>>65573938ok and? this is still huge
>>65573938Seething bootlicker!!!
>>65573942>NCWorst CarolinaAlso fuck off we're full
>>65573939yeah
>>65573944if you actually believed you had rights (you don't) you would've just not complied from the beginning (and told everyone else to not comply either). The feds mindbroke you so hard you don't actually believe firearms are a right. And you're so demoralized you don't even know it.You STILL have to fill out federal documents at a federally-licensed dealer to buy a METAL TUBE. Remember that as you celebrate this "victory". Pathetic. Maybe in another 90 years we'll have the entire ATF dismantled.
>>65573939Yes. You can now manufacture a short-barreled rifle without requiring the ATF enforced tax stamp and approval.
>>65573959Who raped you? Lmao
>>65573959president trump baked you a cake and you're seething because there's no ice cream? pathetic
>>65573959yeah well finding reputable black market arms dealers is really fucking hard so i take what i can get
>>65573967>>65573970wow what a surprise more arguments from chat bots and sports fans I will not fill out the 4473 for the metal tube. That is not what winning looks like.
WESSA FREEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II04E2GEJG8
>>65573977fukin yub nub indeed
>>65573974then buy one second hand, faggot. but stop bitching just because it's not everything you ever wanted. this is a huge win.
GET EM BEFORE THEY SELL OUT FOLKS
>>65573980>this is a huge winNo, it's not. Gun owners have had 92 years to abolish unconstitutional federal gun laws and all they've done is got rid of maybe 20% of it.Really? A century? That's how long it takes to get legal suppressors? And you still have to fill out a 4473 for them so they aren't actually legal.Claiming victory here is pure cope.
Yawn. Call me when they legalize “machine guns”, as the ATF calls them.
>>65573992LOL
>>65573997>no argumentI accept your concession.
>>65573992woman psychology
>>65573974>>65573992>>65573999Unhealthy cope
>>65573970President Trump isn't doing shit other than pissing off everyone to vote blue in 2028 then they will just add the $200 tax stamp back invalidating the whole $0 tax logic and we are back to square one.This whole months long confusing clown show does nothing other than let hicks legally play around with non-NFA suppressors for 700 days. Trump could create permanent legislation but he's too busy fighting an unpopular war and trying to ham-fistedly pump his base up (hey we totally hate H1B's now and white people.. we see you!) a month before he gets raped in the midterms and impeached.
>>65573939Technically no.Pennsylvania state law allows the possession of SBRs ONLY if you comply with the NFA.The ATF deciding to not enforce this part of the NFA does not technically mean that the NFA isn't still in effect. So any local jurisdiction might just read the law as its written and shit on your head for being in violation of the NFA as they define it.You are only safe from the ATF, but not safe from your local jurisdiction. You will need to wait for a legal case or legislative meeting where this is clarified. You might potentially call or e-mail your representative and ask them how the state is going to interpret this.
>>65573992>>65574008Is this some bizarre demoralization attempt?
>>65573843are you seriously trying to tell me this would have happened under a kamala presidency? thats crackhead talk
>>65574012yes, along with the trannies that just cant give trump a win
>>65573794We won. Shareblue lost.
>>65574013Not Kamala but her successor, which likely would be Republican due to negro + woman fatigue.Or perhaps her administration would have created a 2nd tier of citizens with more gun rights that one must opt into to simplify regulations and forms. Maybe a universal gun license. Sounds like something a libtard would advocate for
Doomerjitasisters? Where are you?
>>65574012Have any you guys interfaced with the points given or just gonna reply with buzzwords>Cope>Woman psychology>D-Demoralization!Literally every post lmao
>>65573970He is paid to seethe.
Machine guns aren't legal?Destructive devices aren't legal?There are still ammo restrictions (e.g. no AP)?There are still import restrictions?There is still an FFL licensing system and background checks still exist and I can't order guns directly to my home from the manufacturer?Felons are still restricted from buying guns?Feds still mandate gun locks in the box of every new guns, and gun companies have to put safety warning engravings to avoid lawsuits?Sounds like we have a long way to go.>>65574029No, they never actually reply anything relevant. Those that aren't chat bots are sports fans and/or tap water drinkers. You can't expect too much of them.
>>65574029Found one!
>>65574008Eh, I don't believe it's so gloomy.The democrats are (currently) lax on the gun issue, as anyone in their party with a brain has already ignored prior beliefs and bought a gun. Fuck, you don't gotta go far in the city usually to see some silly poster by leftoids, for leftoids, saying they need to arm themselves.On top of that, gun ownership has been higher than at any prior point in US history, not to mention the standard level of education about firearms as *generally* increased. Not to say you won't get retards who genuinely think suppressors completely silence a gunshot, etc, but there's more people who are actually capable of understanding guns aren't some horrifying magical object of death. It's just not a popular thing to argue on and the last major shooting that caused a bunch of seething about the 2nd amendment was years ago. Unless something crazy happens, firearms shouldn't be a hot button issue, especially with all the other legitimate fuckups the Trump administration has caused in other sectors of policy.
>>65574025>Sounds like something a libtard would advocate formaybe 20 years ago, these days the biggest voices in the dems are stanley cup women who still parrot the "assault weapon" meme, they will not settle for anything less than complete abolition of firearms because they're male-codedwhich ofc is actually a good thing. their demands are insane even by lib standards which has made gun control politics much more feckless than the "moderates".
>Yeah but what about XYZSilence, shills
>>65573794I feel like I want to cry right now. Good news for once? I can't believe it.
FunnyThe boomers started dying off and things in the world slowly but gradually do get better
>>65574029You don't have any points, you're just using a lot of words to say that this isn't a win actually because gun grabber politicians will keep trying to grab guns.
>>65574012Yes.
>>65573959non-complying is now easier than ever though, now they have no means of even enforcing compliance with those rules so your chance to get caught is approaching nill. how is this supposed to be a bad thing?
>>65574008So buy the fucking guns and suppressors now before they're banned again you dumb fuck!
>>65574044I didn't say it's not a win. I said it's pathetic that it took 92 years for this tiny win, and that mass noncompliance would solve this issue entirely overnight.
Not to be negative but, this isn't a massive law change or anything right? it's just another ATF opinion correct? One that will be reverted after an election?ANyway what stock should i now buy for my AK-V 9mm? And don't say the midwest industries stock
>>65574031>Destructive devices and machine gunsWould be cool, but I don't got the money for ammo on that even if I could buy one :/>AmmoCast your own AP, pussy.>Import restrictionsGay and cancerous yeah>FFL licensing/background checksYeah, letting rabid niggers and schizophrenics buy any gun they want after being registered as a violent sex offender and felon is a GREAT idea!!!>Felons restricted from buying gunsThey should be restricted from having any human rights whatsoever. But I guess you must have face tattoos and a draco in your glovebox if you genuinely believe this is a bad thing.>Gun locksNobody is forcing you to use it on your gun, why even complain about this?We get a really solid win and all you can do is whine that nobody is giving you cupcakes and sprinkles with it too. Crybaby.
>>65574052UhhhUhhhhhhhhUHHHHHHHHHFUCKWHY CAN'T I REMEMBER Sureshot Armament makes good shit
>>65574031>tap water drinkersThe fuck? Fluoride is the reason large chunks of anti-gun regulations are getting torn down?
>>65574010Do you think the state would care if the ATF themselves weren't enforcing it? Weed is still technically illegal here but no one gets charged for it anymore, even people in possession of distribution level amounts.
>>65574051>I didn't say it's not a win>>65573992>Claiming victory here is pure cope.
>>65574031Kill yourself Nafo nigger. America has gotten some rights back. You will never be a woman.
>>65574060>Do you think the state would care if the ATF themselves weren't enforcing it?Do I think petty bureaucrats and power hungry politicians would go out of their way to enforce a law just because they can? Yes, absolutely.All it takes is one anti-gun individual in the system to screw you over for years as you go through legal battles, figuring out whether the state conforms to the law as written or the ATF. That's not a good place to be.
>>65574058>Schizoing about tap water>Also wants felons and niggers to own guns, along with doing away with background checks entirelyNon-zero chance that anon is a diagnosed nutcase upset he still can't legally own a gun.
>>65574063>Yeah, letting rabid niggers and schizophrenics buy any gun they want after being registered as a violent sex offender and felon is a GREAT idea!!!Oh, you're a gungrabber. Makes sense now.>>65574064If you had to "get" them back, they aren't rights. Rights can only be surrendered, and not taken. That's what makes them rights. That's what America was founded on, and what you forgot, which is why you think doing a background check for a metal tube is winning.
So I can buy supressors privately now. Based.
>>65574060I could definitely see some states doubling down on prosecuting people for owning evil baby killing short barrel weapons even though the ATF doesn't care anymore.
>>65573959Raped
>>65574073Just buy privately you fucking sperg. Stop seething and be happy for once.
>>65574072>>65574073I think the bot is broken.
>>65574073>I think letting criminal niggers have access to guns is a bad idea>YOU MUST WANNA TAKE AWAY ALL THE GUNS!!!!Niggerlover!!!
>>65574079Not a bot. How about you provide some arguments of your own?
>>65574052>it's just another ATF opinion correct?Yes.>One that will be reverted after an election?For everything outside of suppressors, yes, you should expect it to. The GOA ruling means bringing suppressors back under the NFA would be discriminatory and might not happen, but the other NFA items will probably get tax stamped again.
>>65574083Brainlet take and very 2D thinking. I don't think violent criminals should have firearms. I also don't think it's the government's job to determine that, but the people's... and you are a cuck who think it's Uncle Sam's job.
>>65574079Why are you replying to me like I have anything to do with the crying nogunz sperg?
If we simply expedited the executions of the violent felons and decriminalized stupid shit like quaaludes, marijuana, and cocaine, we'd fundamentally improve society for generations to come.The only thing that can stop a violent rapist nigger with a machine gun is a law abiding citizen with a 40MM grenade launcher!
>>65574086how about your position that this shouldnt be celebrated is unhinged for starters
>>65574068>>65574076This is majorly gay. How do those of us in the cuck states get our shit fixed?
>>65574088>but the other NFA items will probably get tax stamped againwon't you just be able to claim you bought them prior to the ruling and avoid the stamp via private sales though?
I bet McMaster Carr is going to be selling a shit ton of 1/2x28 taps.
>>65574093What does the privilege to operate motor vehicles on public roads with restrictions have to do with the right to own firearms?
>repealing gun laws isn't a win because it's not everything I've ever wantedpaid shill or retard?
>>65574102No gun laws were even changed here. The ATF just decided to take a break.
Not even close to a win. The only people who should have NFA items are the people who can afford it or the people with the balls to not follow it anyways. Now anyone can get these NFA items and give gun grabbers every reason to want to make them outright illegal. Rocking the boat was the worst thing anyone could have done to the NFA since $200 separated real gun owners from everyone else. Every single one of you who is celebrating this “win” doesn’t realize how all or nothing this problem is. Until the entire NFA is overturned (which it will never be) there will always be the chance to return to registration by law with additional items such as pistols added to the list. Not to mention the value of these items going away, upon which the entire gun market needs items that are inherently investments.YouFuckingRetards
>>65574106ok? still a win. go buy an SBR and suppressor and have some fun.
>>65574089Thanks for critiquing me on stuff I never said..? You're putting words in my mouth for no reason other than to make yourself upset, retard. Nowhere did I imply that you NEED the government to waggle your dick while banishing criminals from owning anything deadlier than a pencil. Where in my post did I say the government was mandatory for this?
>>65574107>Not to mention the value of these items going away, upon which the entire gun market needs items that are inherently investmentsfuck off boomer
>>65574111Who maintains criminal registries? Who determines who is a felon and can't buy guns? Is it the people or the government anon?
>>65574107Kek, get fucked, retard.
>go to /k/ for the first time since the slav slapfight ruined the board expecting this place to be jumping for joy>literally one thread>rest is generals and brand war threadsthis board is so raped
>>65574116That's not in his script, anon.
>>65574125internet is dead buddy
>>65574107Go buy an sbs and kill yourself faggot.
>>65574116Yes, me supporting societal systems means I am a shill for the government. ...Are all anarchists THIS absolutist and stupid??? Just because I want social accountability means I think the ATF shouldn't be strung up by the balls for Waco and Ruby Ridge, I guess. I'm now the government's biggest shill because I dare to believe that society at large should be responsible for keeping degenerates in check.>>65574127Everyone who ever disagrees with you is a bot that lives in your walls!
>>65574129No, just /k/. /v/ is absolutely full of retards.
Fuck you niggers, FREEDOM PEWPEWPEW
Get me in the screen cap
>>65574095NFA items have to be registered before manufacture. There is no federal law that allows them to be registered after the fact. Any unregistered NFA items are simply illegal.The only possibility is for the attorney general to permit a grandfathering period; up to 90 days for you to register the NFA items. Otherwise you get fucked.
>>65574125I'm trying to not be too hopeful because hope is always betrayed.
>>65574148Yeah but he's saying you can claim you bought/made them before they went back to taxstamping themAnd you can
>>65574125Blame the moderation to an extent. They're quick to slap down multiple threads on the same topic and shoehorn people into a single thread
Doing this right before the dems get their biggest governing trifecta since 1932 is pretty objectively hilarious. Sadly I think anyone that takes advantage of this NFA holiday is gonna be turbo ass raped by Hillary Clinton in 2029.
>>65574169She's becoming a head in a jar???
>>65574169You're completely retarded
>>65574169don't care
>>65574169Who really gives a fuck any Democrat gains in the House/Senate or even White House will never be equivalent to what Trump has and he's basically fucked it all up.
So wait, can I just sell my previously Form 1'd SBR in a private sale the wayvi would any other gun now, without issues?
>>65574180You always could, but now there aren't any ramifications that could be used to rape you as the ATF are effectively neutered on enforcement powers in that domain as of the injuction and their own admittance/guidance now
Wow.This is incredible, yet almost has no impact on me due to state law.
i'm still not voting for the destroy the country party gomen
>>65574190If you rent and have skills that can get you a good salary for the area in any red state you can easily move. If you're living in a hyperblue economic techbro zone then don't complain and silently build up your exit plan fund.
>>65574161Possession of an unregistered NFA item is a felony.Federal law does not allow the registration of unregistered NFA items, so if the ATF decides to go back to enforcing the NFA in full, any NFA item you possess at that time is illegal.
>>65574191You must open the tens of millions of foreigners floodgate that will drive up costs of everything and drive down wages while silencing you with cancel culture or the gas prices!(And neither party is ending ai the other source of job losses.)
>>65574190>state lawfuck gay faggot life man, I'm in the same boat and it sucks so badly. I just want to use a suppressor so I can protect my ears.
>>65574207Imagine MILLIONS of felons overnight! The lawsuits and cases to come will be hilarious and glorious!!
>>65574207that's not how it works, you can't retroactively declare legal items illegal. see: normal capacity mag bans, mandatory serial numbers on homemade guns, etc.
>>65573935>based fellow /pw/ enjoyer
>>65574137I've had to stop going to /v/ for a while. The already low quality suddenly plunged into the negatives. Can hardly find even one thread worth posting in in a sea of ever more putrid dreck
>>65574223yes you can lol states have done it, thankfully the illinois one is going to scotus
>>65573992>92ah, Nash bros, I don't feel so good
>>65574230>The already low quality suddenly plunged into the negatives.What happened
>>65574223>that's not how it works, you can't retroactively declare legal items illegal.It's not retroactive. You'll just be demanded to surrender any unregistered NFA items to the government and henceforth will be a felon if you refuse.
>>65574232MUH STEAMY HOT SUMMER
>>65574231you cannot, best they can do is demand registration/ban on all future pruchases, not illegalize already existing items.
>>65574031>There is still an FFL licensing system and background checks still exist and I can't order guns directly to my home from the manufacturer?at first I was wondering if this was a troll and then>Felons are still restricted from buying guns?confirmed it
>>65574241Not him, but they absolutely can and do. Will people comply? Likely not. Will you be fucked if you're caught? Yes.
>>65574237>ou'll just be demanded to surrender any unregistered NFA items to the governmentsure thing bro, that'll totally happen outside of your fantasy.
"CBS reported last month that President Trump himself ordered the DOJ to not appeal this case. By refusing to appeal, the DOJ has ceded its duty to defend the 1934 federal law"Have you thanked your President today?
>>65574237>aaaaaaa panic panic panicshut the fuck up
>>65574246>>65574248COME ON FED BOISDO IT LIKE THE JANET RENO DAYS!!!!
>>65574252>fedExcuse me sir, I live in a cucked state. I'm just telling you about reality.
>>65574166That's a lie, at any given moment there's guaranteed 5 of the same turdie melt thread about Iran and the same amount of yurotard seethe threads about how blimpf isn't fighting their war for them
>>65574215Right now there is red states allowing stocks and suppressors on sbrs with frts mimicking full auto like any other gun purchase. Looking identical to a suppressed full auto m4.The landscape has changed a lot in a short time.
>>65574236The 2016 election
>>65574186I have three SBRs, all under my original NFA trust with stamps/approval etc going back to years ago. If I wanted to sell one of them now, I'm assuming I have to at least remove it from the trust.
>>65574248>sure thing bro, that'll totally happen outside of your fantasy.LITERALLY THE NFA. The exact scenario I am describing is the national firearms act and its consequences. If the ATF goes back to enforcing it, the same thing will happen.>>65574251Not panic. But consider future governments and how they might screw you over in terms of the ATF going to back to enforcing the NFA in full. Maybe don't post footage online of you with all your unregistered NFA items, since the ATF might come kill your dog 5 years in the future based on those videos.
>>65574261>changed a lotAnd ideally the gay states that don't allow that stuff get fucked by the courts before the next 2 years is over and the orange tard's reluctant appeasement to us is overturned on an executive order.
>>65574258And those get pruned gradually, after the local janny finally wakes up and gets approval to delete themWhich does take ages, but it happens. Notice how hardly any of their threads have actual staying power on /k/ but discussions of weapons and gear do>>65574265Definitely if it's in a trust. Any item that is in a trust would have to be removed prior to sale, unless you're adding the purchaser to said trust.This goes for almost anything desu. Property, car, etc.
Hell yeah
>>65574012/k/ is a reddit stronghold now, orange man bad is the default response to everything.
>>65574305Redditor lies lmao
What cool pistol stocks can people come up with now.Designs like the mp7 in less meme calibers are legal now.Almost a handgun firearms that transform in carbines with rock solid no wobble cheek weld precision.Or how about integral suppressor designs that don't even need the extra length of a can hanging off the front that just divert the gas to another chamber.Some really cool options now.
>>65574305I think /k/ was hit the hardest of any board by the 2016 election
>>65573967>Who raped you?Dad. Mom knew but didn't say shit
>>65574305>Drumpf>Kegsbreath>Operation Epstein FuryThey don't even try to hide anymore.
>>65573794>just got a 3D printerThe suppressors will flow
>>65574034>Stanley cup woman ???
>>65574336They're just the same shills who spam the board on a daily basis, they never try to hide. Just as they spam foreign policy and US conflicts on the board, they'll spam internal policy and drive stakes into any kind of divisive internal issues. You might just think it's "Reddit," because Reddit is full of retards who willingly repeat propaganda slogans. They're entirely co-opted.
>>655743174chan went to shit the moment that fag moot sold the place. It's a fact that gookmoot does absolutely nothing but collect a check on this place if he actually owns it. When it was hacked we all learned that zero maintenance had been done since moot left. The mods and admins have been running it like their little private reddit adjacent playground and everything they've done is to hide the declining user numbers. They absolutely sell special access to bot farms and NGOs. The decline of 4chan was all done intentionally. The moderation isn't overwhelmed. They apply the rules arbitrarily as censorship and allow topics they don't like to be targeted. It's only going to get worse.
>>65574344It's a brand of stainless steel insulated travel cups. He is not talking about hockey.
>>65573808Based CPD. They caught me drunk driving the other day and just made me pour it out.
>>65573893they will still accept forms so you can still meet your states requirements, but the rest of us don't have to and you can contact your reps to try to get them to change the state law.
>>65573819federally yeah. in like 1/3rd of all states there is no state law regarding NFA weapons. in 1/3rd they are banned and in the other third it's confusing because they were legal with an NFA stamp but now you don't need to get an NFA stamp so it depends on the specific state and the specific wording as to what's going on
>>65573924shame the undetectable firearms act is still on the books, requires you to have a pretty heavy pen.
>>65574373There is no confusion. They say that suppressors are legal to own in accordance with federal law, and federal law no longer requires registration.
>>65574386it depends on the state some say in accordance with federal law, there are at least 3 that mention tax stamps or federal registration.
My only problem here is that the ATF can just issue a new "opinion" and bring it all back on a whim. We need an actual law striking down this garbage for good.
>>65573938Hey. Fucko. We also didnt have constitutional carry or syg which are way more important than the fucking nfa you doomer shutin subhuman
>>65573794"determined to exercise its enforcement discretion" doesn't do shit for anyone, because the statute is still on the books. Two and a half years from now, they can turn around and say "lol we are going to exercise our discretion to go around shooting everyone and their dog who followed our old guidance."
>>65574434There wasn’t even the attempt to pass a law on that either.
>>65574008Trump’s a fag and we need to do more for our rights in general, but this is a win and a win is a win no matter how small. Take advantage of this opportunity, it’s not only hicks that benefit.>>65573992You’re missing the forest for a tree. Gun rights in the past few decades are expanding, not shrinking.>>65574031>Sounds like we have a long way to go.We do, but this is a step in the right direction.>>65574107If the NFA was completely repealed there’d be nothing stopping the next Congress from implementing a similar set of laws. So using your logic, there would be no reason to celebrate repealing the NFA as a win in any circumstance.>The only people who should have NFA items are the people who can afford it or the people with the balls to not follow it anyways. Now anyone can get these NFA items and give gun grabbers every reason to want to make them outright illegal.And outright abolishing the NFA wouldn’t? Or are you arguing in favor of keeping the NFA as a whole?>>65574125Check out /meg/ and look at all the replies to deleted posts if you want to see how far this board has fallen. It used to be a fun hangout but it’s been the designated schizo arena for the last few years.
I can safely post this for my dog's sake now. Show me the funs that you recovered from the lake, /k/.
>>65574008>Trump could create permanent legislationNo he can't, retard, only Congress can pass legislation.OTOH thanks to Trump the Republicans are pretty much guaranteed to lose both the House and the Senate. Nine months ago Republicans were almost certain to keep both.
Damn.Still in Cali.
>>65574490It's like watching the next door neighbor's party get even more epic and there you are sitting inside. Just come over bro.
>>65574478You could show up on a certain day in November and make sure that doesn't happen...
>>65574008>Trump admin delivers a PREVIOUSLY UNIMAGINABLE WIN FOR THE 2A>Anons still bitch and moan I'm tired.
>>65573929I goddamn live in goddamn NY
>>65574008Right because you can just go back. One law makes them vanish.
>>65574473I'm game
>>65573794>ATF will also no longer require such items to be registeredWe fucking WON boys. Now I need to go out and buy a can ASAP.
>short barreled rifles and shotgunsBros we are going to see Keltec snort SO MUCH COKE and make some INSANE FUCKING DESIGNS.
So many shitty single shots 12ga-s I own are about to become stubbies.
>just realized I could quite easily sbr my vector now>but I like the crb, so I would need to buy an entirely new gun as it's almost impossible to find just the action for sale>also hate 4473s, and avoid them as much as I can
>>65574537She cute
>>65574546We can literally just start cutting down shotguns as we please. Absolutely fucking BASED.
>>65574511>anonsThey're all TDS faggots.
>seething trannoids forces to post this is a bad thing.What a life. Im sure they dont do it for free right? >>65574553
>>65574498Nothin out there for me outside the state, might do property but that's a hassle and I'd never spend time there.
Is picrel allowed now
>>65574456But 2.5 years from now there will be a bajillion SBRs and SBSs floating around that will be impossible to keep track of at the level they used to and it will be easy for anyone to say "oh yeah I made this SBR after the ATF stopped enforcing lol." The cat is out of the bag.
>>65574576That's an AoW so yes.
>>65574083They already had guns, fool.
>>65574207That would be a takings and create damages, so it would be enjoined nationally and they would fight it out in court. They can do it but not easily and ripe for favorable rulings which grabbers HATE. This is a total win.
>>65573794I honestly thought i would die before this shit got overturned.
>>65574125It got way worse after the ukie civil war.This year isn'treal upped their online propaganda budget to $740M. It's to the point now where they'll falseflag as anti-american then counter with pro-isn'treal posts to appeal to Americans. Unfortunately many anons don't realize it and they're drinking the coolaid. I created 30-40 filters to auto-remove the threads.
>>65574549Thanks M80, Im also an /ic/ fag and designed the Oni myself. Had it engraved when the lower was still an 80% and meant to finish it off. The ruling made it much easiern that and FRTs being legalized. Pic relate is one of the others that got finished off after the ruling.
>>65574609Well except for being refinished which still needs to happen.
Love being in a free state
>>65573794KrinKOV! KrinKOV!i pledge myself to the Trumpenfuhrer and the american reich
>>65574613American lives are worth more than what your tiny-hat country is worth.
YEEEEEEEE!And, might I add, HAAAAAAAAAW!
>No cans, (probably) no shotguns, SBRs are totally fair and free Splurged on a 733 upper and a 10.5 Uzi barrel for my pre-bans. Gonna look around for guys who can lop off my PTR9 and PS90 barrels >inb4 just move It's home and I'm not leaving even if I've got helicopters firing missiles at my house.
Does this mean I can sell my suppressor that I bought via form 4 to a friend just like any other rifle? Obviously living in a good state.
>>65574654What part of>the ATF will no longer require individuals to seek ATF approval under the NFA before making or transferring silencersDo you not understand? Do you clarification of the clarification?
>>65574670The part where it says sales will be done on 4473s. I can sell a rifle to anyone without a 4473.
>>65574674Just like any other firearm
>>65574674>"no more requirement to register these items in the national firearms transfer record"https://youtu.be/I48Jq5KGC_4?t=52
>Stickynice
>>65573794posten in a sticky
MODS STICKIED!!!!BASED!!!!
>look at this EPIC TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WIN RIGHT BEFORE THE MIDTERMSa win for 2a is a win for 2a but if you're suckered into voting for the Make America Irrelevant Again party because of this you deserve both everything else going to shit and the inevitable backstab
We did it reddit!
>>65573794Never in a million years did I think I'd be here to see the NFA die. Seethe and bait all you want niggers, I just came, shit, and pissed in my jorts (out of joy) and you dumb sissies can't do nothing about it
Is this not executive fiat that could easily be undone at the whim of the next director? Obviously, excepting whatever class that is actually affected by the recent ruling, people shouldn't go build 20 sbrs and buy 100 supressors?
Here they come lol
>>65574737
>b8 states still gayGay
>>65574750Yes, so if it concerns you that badly go join GOAMe? Seething that GA's state law is gay and that the fucking legislator didn't change it earlier this year
>>65574755if you want to announce to the board that you're cattle enough to be easily swayed by cynical midterm ploys that's your business
>>65574750Well that's the next directors problem to try and reverse course. At this point start cranking out homemade cans and SBRs to make that change even harder, don't wait for them to change their mind. Light is green and I'm flooring it, I recommend you do too
>>65574764finna vote for the party that doesn't hate the 2nd amendment, simple as
>>65574771so the libertarian party? 'cause i was reading news articles about a guy that got summarily executed for having a gun on him at the wrong place earlier this year
>>65574750It could, but at the very least it will be a huge pain in the ass for them since they'd have to prove that any given item was acquired or made in a period when registration was required. If they try to get you for something you made when registering wasn't required, then there's a whole lot of other hoops for them to jump through which they might not be able to.
>>65574774the instigating jew that was impeding government officials in their appointed duties?
Well, now I can finally throw my DDM4V7K on my lower and not give a fuck. Time to get a new muzzle device so I can buy my can.
>>65574784>can't go three posts without deepthroating boot in the process of """"defending 2A"""""we're done here.
You may seethe but Trump is officially the most 2A president since Teddy Roosevelt. Do you need an engraving for sbr/suppressors are just g2g eith a 4473 for the suppressor?What are we predicting? A run in cans? Have they been building up supply? Better to hold off because we’re about to see a renaissance on cans? What will happen to prices? Are Dems going to piss and shit and try to undo it? How fast could they even do it if they can? Years?
>>65574768My goal is an SBR AR with a can and FRT.I wonder how the rules will apply for lowers now? Like functionally, taking a pistol versus a rifle lower means nothing. Converting a pistol to an SBR means nothing other than a change in category. I guess it might still matter for state law depending on where you are.
>>65574787pretti bad argument
12.5 AR BARREL WILL BE KING MARK MY WORDS.
>>65574576Now put a stock on it
>>65574802Put a bangin' donk on it.
>>65574801yes but what twist rate?!
>>65574335Clarissa?
>>65574793Personally I'm just gonna fashion a can for my 22 and my 9, maybe slap a stock on my PCC. Maybe fashion a sawed off sxs
>>65574792>>65574737Can you /pol/trannies not make this about the fucking president who barely has anything to do with this
Paul would be happy.
>I didn't learn about this first from Brandon or Ian celebration videosFreaking slowpokes.
Can someone explain this to me like I'm a /nogunz/ leaf?
>>6557481899% chance you don't own a single firearm
>>65574826Because the court ruling for GOA would have been a nightmare to enforce on people, the ATF decided to 'allow' suppressors, SBRs, etc to be transferred without registration. However, the law has not been struck down so more work needs to be done.
>>65574830And when it's reversed, what happens to all the items procured during this period?
>>65574827i could arm every man, woman and child on my block, /k/ is notoriously nogunz
>>65574838>/k/ is notoriously nogunzyeah like you, /pol/troon
>>65574008I hate that shabbos goy, and agree that his self-sabotaging is fucking this country in all kinds of ways, but you're either a retard or a kike if you think this shit is going to get reversed that easily.
>>65574826I'm also noguns but from what I understand, the NFA has been repealed and people can make short barreled rifles as they please. So yanks can now put stocks on glocks with zero paperwork. Suppressors, too.
>>65574826SBRs, SBSs, AOWs and suppressors are now (depending on local state law) unregulated.
>>65574825>Brandon's campaign "On the Issue" page lists "Standing with President Trump"Goodest goy
>>65574845Not repealed, simply not being enforced. I swear the average 4channer is illiterate.
>>65573794>read this >start running up and down like a retard>read ruling>shoelaces and buttons still illegalSobering but I won’t seethe.Fucking cheers, all around: and I’ll have one sbr and few silencers to go please and thank you.
>>655748051:7. Isn't that what everyone uses these days?
>>65574851>Sobering but I won’t seethe.yeah, the NFA isn't dead yet, but damn this is nice.
>>65574792>iToddler filename
>>65574852is that enough twist to stabilize over a shorter length?
>>65574862yeah
>>65574381This is your daily reminder to spit in the face of the NRA.
>>65574865im thinkin 1/9
>>65573938Lol drill press go drrrrrrrrr
>>65573794Its time. Me and the super blackhawk are going furniture shopping
>>655748621:7 is supposed to be the jack of all trades twist rate.
>>65574088>The GOA ruling means bringing suppressors back under the NFA would be discriminatoryWhich GOA ruling is that? Obv not the silencershop ruling, but was there another case about silencers?
>>65574867In those days Glocks were tantamount to Destructive Devices. Please understand.
>>65574095Nope. Read the ATF's FAQ on this, specifically in the "Future Guidance" section, under the question "If I hold an unregistered blah blah".https://www.atf.gov/firearms/update-to-nfa-transfer-guidance
>>65574849Yeah he should say he stands with Adolf Hitler instead
Looks like Flux raiders will go out of business now that anyone can just clip a $10 piece of plastic on their glock.
>>65574161And that is irrelevant, because the NFA is still the law of the land, the ATF is simply enjoined from enforcing certain provisions related to verifying payment of a non-revenue-generating tax.
>>65573870>Until we change our mind or a new president is elected in two years.>>65574008This guy gets it.
cane guns are considered aow and are thus legal now?
>>65574008>add the $200 tax stamp backRaised to maybe 5000 after attempting to ban all guns and the token controlled opposition from useless Ziopublicans "convinces" them to scale it back into totally-not-a de jure ban.>>65574531Unironically yes>>65574044Exactly the case until the guns are used for their intended purpose
>>65574849>the one rightist millennial actually putting his money where his mouth is getting into politics to change his country for the betterHe’s brown and he’s better than you and I bet that upsets you deep down in places you haven’t tried to search
>>65574910Thanks for providing an insight into the lib mind.
>>65574867>National RIFLE Association >simping for handgunsI think not sir. The NRA is a very principled institution.
>>65574849>>65574901>I see that the right delivering the biggest 2A win since Bush has you absolutely fucking SEETHING
>>65574223>you can't retroactively declare legal items illegal(a) there's no retroactive anything going on here. The NFA is still the law of the land, it hasn't been repealed, and neither the district court, Justice Dept, nor ATF have that power anyway. The ATF is simply pausing enforcement of certain provisions as long as the tax is $0 and the district court's decision has not been overruled.(b) The NFA is a tax law, not a gun control law. NFA firearms simply have a tax that must be paid. It is the nonpayment of the tax that is the crime. If the tax comes back then the taxes must be paid, only there is no way under the NFA to pay the taxes unless the ATF director is feeling generous and offers an amnesty, which he is not required to do.
>>65574913>Americans will enjoy hearing protection and 10.5-inch barrels >ishygddtThanks Orange Man. Today you weren’t a faggot.
>>65574909Regardless of whether it is, you're not convincing anyone that being a 35 year old with a cane isn't suspicious.
>>65574913>THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP
>>65574923>you're not convincing anyone that being a 35 year old with a cane isn't suspicious.In my line of work, a 35 year old man without a cane is suspicious. t. A simple country lawyer.
>>65574600>That would be a takingsFor failure to pay a tax. It's allowed.
>>65574915The funniest part is the shills insisting that democrats will totally reverse this in two years will be back here a year and a half from now insisting that democrats would never ever reverse this.
>>65574893Good luck with that shitstorm lmao
>>65574917My post here >>65574901was sarcastic
>>65574929>will be back here a year and a half from now insisting that democrats would never ever reverse this.100%
>>65574931I regret nothing.
>>65574836That is actually addressed by the ATF's guidance today. See >>65574893
>>65574913thank you orange man, this is actually more than I ever expected.
I will probably build a sawed off Desperado shotgun for fun, but I sadly don't care much now.
The FAQ says that if enforcement resumes, you might get a 90 day grace period to register and pay. If the AG feels like it. No grandfathering.We need the actual law to change.
>literally the greatest thing to ever happen in our lifetimes for gun rights>literally all /k/ can talk about is the president that just went "yeah whatever just let it go through"/k/ is the most LARPed board by a wide marginanyway, I'm getting a Kriss Vector with a can because I never liked the mosquito nose or faux suppressor of a compliant one. I'm just gonna have to call my FFLs and see what their intentions are if they're too pussy to do anything before getting explicit city/state clearance
>>65574923weeeelll, round these parts, people act and dress a lil differently
>>65574930Oh it'll definitely be a shitstorm. It's just one we should be prepared for, because it's absolutely coming as soon as the next Dem president gets elected and all those trans-publicans join with their democrat brothers and raise the tax.
>>65574933Post your address, I'll kick your ass
>>65574941You just cant help yourself, can you?Post guns.
>>65574940just fyi, buckshot is for shooting bucks (male deer)
>>65574938>We need the actual law to change.yeah, but the shitstorm that reversing this would cause will be hilarious
Something I find retarded is that if you take two states that border each other, for example Indiana and Kentucky that have no state restrictions on SBRs now. You still need to file a form 20 to drive an SBR across state lines even if the SBR is not registered with the NFA due to neither state requiring that, so you would pretty much be filing a form 29 for something that isn’t even registered as an NFA item.
>>65574942I'll merely pay someone to fight in my stead. Bamboozled yet again young man, bamboozled yet again.
Who cares? This literally only affects amerilards
>>65574914Jews are also brown and better than me, by most metrics
>>65574838How many people are on your block?
>>65574947Bullshit like that will strengthen the case for striking down the NFA in full.
>>65574950I've already traced your IP, bucko
>>65574947i dont own any NFA items, but if its a rifle then merely removing the upper from the lower would mean its not NFA and then you can go wherever you want?
>>65574957That or the law just dies in obscurity as it just simply isn't enforced. Remember, an unenforced law isn't a law but merely a guideline
>>65574951
>>65574957I agree 100% because it genuinely makes 0 sense , Apperantly it’s because my scenario I have is covered under the GCA not NFA, it’s just pure legal retardation and I’m sure within weeks it’ll be sorted out, nonetheless it is kind of retarded
>>65574958Jokes on you, I'm hiding behind 7.
What does this mean for those of us trapped in new york?
>>65574965Pretty sure in a lot of states this ruling literally doesn’t affect you because the state laws are so fucked that nothing the ATF can do will save you
>>65574965>What does this mean for those of us trapped in new york?I believe that if you scroll down in the decision it says it doesn't apply to non-whites such as Italians and Irish.
>>65574893lmao what a shitstorm dude.lol, lmao even
>>65574968A man can dream at least
From their FAQ Page:>Future Risk>What are the legal risks of making, possessing, or transferring $0-tax firearms?>Material changes in legal or factual circumstances could cause NFA enforcement to resume. For example, Congress could impose a new tax on NFA firearms. The district court's injunction could be dissolved or overturned. Or the Department could rescind theenforcement guidelines>The NFA treats unregistered firearms as contraband. Individuals who make, possess transfer, or receive unregistered NFA firearms are subject to felony penalties and forfeitures. 26 U.S.C. $ 5861, 5871, 5872; 49 U.S.C. $ 80302, 80303
>>65574913THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMPREPEAL THE NFA AND I WILL VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU WANT ME TO
>PA says in order to get the fun stuff, you have to "comply with the NFA">previously "comply" meant doing a Form1/4>ATF nows says you don't have to do a Form1/4 to comply with the NFA>doing nothing = complyingSo uh, what happens for Pennsylvania? The law clearly states you just have to do what the NFA tells you to do. Notably the law doesn't say anything like you must register or you must so a specific task.
>>65574008>hickslmao, city slickers mad
>>65575001>trumpbros
>>65573970Hakuna Matada, Masada.
>>65574929We got FRTs under Biden. We lost bumpstocks under "take the guns due process later" Trump. And now gas is over 5/gal while we're fighting another forever war in Israel (even Bush wasn't dumb enough to invade Iran). Miggers tongue my anus
>>65575032this nigga is STILL bringing up bumpstocks in the "suppressors are unregulated now" thread
>>65575032It's kind of cringe how the fucking NFA was just repealed and you're annoyed because of which party was in charge when it happened.
>>65574873>super blackhawk with stock and 3x magnification
>>65575032>And now gas is over 5/galCalifaggots cant help but out themselvesDie mad, nigga!
>>65574906They'll just convert to be more of an actual stock and less of a meme.
NFA not repealed, possession of unregistered NFA item still a felony. Posting unregistered NFA items on a Mongolian basket weaving forum not a smart idea.
>>65574947You just know the 2A org are racing to the courthouse to be the first to sue over that.Whoever wins first, gets to run a membership drive for the associational standing.
>>65574849
>>65574125>this board is so rapedThey're not fucking Americans is what it is. This whole debacle with the NFA since the ruling 64 days ago has been MASSIVELY eye opening as to how much of this board doesn't own a gun. If this was 2016 we would've had a never ending nonstop megathread. When we hit the end of the appeal period 3 days ago I'm sure we would've had a Show and Tell thread for all kinds of goodies that totally we made since the period ended. All the people who wanted to talk about guns got driven away. This place is now just foreign noguns retards larping as American because they have a vague interest in firearms but don't actually care about technical discussion or implications of legal changes because they CAN'T FUCKING OWN THEM FUCK YOU EUROTHIRDIE RETARD NO GUN FOR YOU
>>65575058yea definitely , i hope that part gets taken care of soon because it genuinely makes no sense. i emailed FPC already about it. from r/nfa it seems that in this scenario you would just put a brace back on while driving between the two free states
>>65574965Feds won’t prosecute you so get in good with the old upstate gangsters that got away with everything so the state won’t touch you either.
>>65575032It was over $5 in 2021 after Joes campaign promise to shut down the keystone pipeline came to fruition. Bombing Arabs gives poor, stupid Americans jobs.
>>65575044You can’t reverse psychology me fedboy
>>65575066Only a third of India has internet access...
>>65574965not a lawyer so check your local/state law. it's better to wait and see how the state and businesses will act before doing anythingNY state law banned disguised firearms (some aows), and pistols with a foregrip are also banned under the SAFE act. For now, there are no state laws banning sbs and sbrs as long as they don't have the features that make them an assault weapon. NY penal code 265 defines sbrs and sbs as a regular firearm: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/265.00NYC is the same with one small exception in their definition of an assault weapon:>modifications of such features, or other features, determined by rule of the commissioner to be particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes. In addition, the commissioner shall, by rule, designate specific semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or semiautomatic shotguns, identified by make, model and/or manufacturer's name, as within the definition of assault weapon, if the commissioner determines that such weapons are particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes. The commissioner shall inspect such specific designated semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or semiautomatic shotguns at least three times per year, and shall revise or update such designations as he or she deems appropriate.The commisioner can make it so that any sbs and sbr is an assault weapon, thus making them illegal. NYC admin code 10-301: https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/newyorkcity/latest/NYCadmin/0-0-0-6860
How do I do dis
>>65574994>ATF nows says you don't have to do a Form1/4 to comply with the NFAThat's not what the ATF said though. They said they won't prosecute failure to use Form1/4.
>>65575099No. It specifically says "individuals are no longer required to seek approval to own" and "no longer require 9ndoviduals to register" these items. This literally means to "comply with the NFA" (AKA not be a felon), you no longer need to register the fun stuff. You are complying by doing nothing.
>>65575058That's in the GCA, not the NFA. And the interstate commerce clause comes into play as well. However, they may have a case on 5th amendment grounds. Possession of an unregistered NFA firearm is a felony, forcing people to tell the ATF about their unregistered NFA firearm whenever they go visit family in the next state (or drive from the gun store to their house in a place like Texarkana) could be pitched as a 5A violation.
>>65575066>They're not fucking Americans is what it is.I can fucking read is what it is. What people are claiming about this decision and the ATF guidance is simply not justified by the actual decision and the actual ATF guidance. Wishful thinking is not a (sane) strategy.
>>65575066This is clearly a jeet trying too hard to fit in.
>>65575106Honestly if you are able to come up with that argument on this board this soon then that means surely there is some lawyers already working on that already, seems like one of the easiest things to go after
>>65575113The Supreme Court could rule on this tomorrow, but they won’t. Too many wealthy and powerful people want you unarmed.
>>65575113Its crazy because I remember the argument for 0 taxes on NFA items being a pathway to removing NFA stuff around the same time that the ACA healthcare tax being struck down once it was $0 via legislation. People immediately realized that because congress draws its authority on a lot of things from taxing those things, if you make the tax $0 then it nullifies the law.
>>65575110>Wishful thinking is not a (sane) strategy.It’s pretty much been all libs have been using, quite successfully. Wars are won by will, not by being “right” or using Le facts and logic.
>>65575118true that, but we are making alot of progress tho, when i was 18 in 2015 i thought obama was gonna throw us all in FEMA camps and ban ar15s, but we are actually in a much better position now than we were 11 years ago
>>65575103>This literally means to "comply with the NFANo, it literally means "We won't prosecute you for this. For now." Read the ATF Revised Guidance FAQ (https://www.atf.gov/firearms/update-to-nfa-transfer-guidance) or read the screenshot here >>65574893 . The NFA hasn't changed and hasn't been repealed, neither wholly nor in part, no matter how hard you wish it were.
>>65575127Straight from the letter:>Consequently, effective October 9, 2026, ATF will no longer require individuals to seek ATF approval under the NFA before making or transferring short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, silencers, and “any other weapon[s]” as defined in 26 U.S.C. § 5845(e). ATF will also no longer require such items to be registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer RecordIt literally says (1) you had to register to comply previously, and (2) you no longer have to register to comply. You're automatically in compliance with the law now.
>>65575118>The Supreme Court could rule on this tomorrow, but they won’tWell yeah tomorrow is saturday kek
>>65574849You aren't fooling us anymore. Divide and conquer is dead.We ALL hate you and are not afraid to say it.
>>65575032>We got FRTs under Biden>i will now vote for the people that foam at the mouth to ban gunslol u absolute imbecile
>>65575032ESL
>>65575118>>65575118>but they won’t. Too many wealthy and powerful people want you unarmed.Which is why gun rights keep expanding and why we won bruen? Are you ok nigger?
>>65573794>No sticky Jannies what do they even pay you for
>>65575154>>No sticky
>>65575154Are you blind?
>>65574811>noooo the admins extremely pro-2A policy has nothing to do with this extremely pro-2A policy Bait
>>65575136And who is "me"?
>>65573992>U still have to fill out a fo...ACK?! You can build your own suppressor in the home depot plumbing aisle right now, forever. And 3dprinting stonks just went way up.
>>65575110Stop responding to this guy, it's AI or some kind of actual disinfo shill. I bitch about the quality of posters on this board and this somehow turns into this NPC bitching for the 60th time about how the NFA stuff isn't a real win. If you're a real human state your intentions and post a gun. You won't.
>>65575170Trump is a NYC classical liberalHe does not actually care about 2A that muchIt took no effort from him to see this and say "Yeah whatever"This is the product of a Texas judge with massive fucking gonadsHis name is James Hendrix by the wayBut none of you MIGA trannies know that
>>65575134Straight from the FAQ attached to the letter>If I hold an unregistered $0-tax firearm pursuant to the injunction or the enforcement discretion policy, will I be grandfathered if the legal circumstances change? Will I have an opportunity to register my firearms?>Federal law does not generally permit subsequent registration of unregistered NFA items nor are there provisions that would automatically grandfather unregistered NFA firearms. >There are narrow exceptions that exist at the Attorney General’s discretion. The NFA permits the Attorney General to hold an amnesty for up to 90 days to facilitate registration of unregistered items. The Internal Revenue Code also has provisions authorizing certain forbearances of taxing provisions. The Attorney General is not required, however, to hold an amnesty or to provide forbearance. That decision would be made by the Attorney General at the time the injunction is dissolved.So who's the AG at the time if it flips? Will they give you 90 days to register? Will they give you 30? Will they give you 0? We don't know.
I have had great luck with this guide right here. Super easy and never had a baffle strike as long as you do a good job centering the drill. >>65574473>>65574537>>65574609Should I make a thread for everyone to show off their shit or is this cringe and fedbait?
>>65575182>This is the product of a Texas judge with massive fucking gonads>His name is James Hendrix by the way>But none of you MIGA trannies know thatAppointed by.....?
>>65575182>This is the product of a Texas judge with massive fucking gonadsWho appointed him?
>>65574737i'm voting as hard red as i possibly can. not like your socialist policies are going to help our ballooning debt crisis anyway.
The ATF has officially tongued my anus (past tense). The story isn't over yet though. They will soon resume tonguing my anus on other things such as hand grenades and machine guns. As of right now though I lost all my destructive devices and machine guns in a boating accident.
A lot of the printable suppressors recommend nylon for cans, for longevity.But considering the total sink to make a new one when it fails is to harvest hardware and spend like 15 hours printing a new can (and the half a kg of filament), why not just print out of pla+ and print more frequently in leu of having to dry nylon and hope the print doesn't warp because it feels like it?
Whatcha buying first, /k/?
>>65574908>>65574910Cope seethe and dilate demoralizer
>>65575195probably a short barreled upper
>>65575190lmao
>>6557492335? my 72 year old mother looks like a Droog when she carries a cane
>>65575195Most people will be getting clip on stocks for pistols, I imagine.
>>65575066>Was here when the trannyjannies added the stickies to punish /k/ for actively organized against king niggers gun control push post sandy hook, role in trayboon trial, bundy ranch standoff >Was here for defdist and warfairy to get jannied at the start of the 3D printing movement >Was here when kommandostore was based instead of being gay >Was here when nafo troons defending ukrainewarts were still getting trolled by the few remaining /k/ommandos >Here for my state to get constitutional carry through a drag out state courts knifefight with no thread >Here for the total rape of the NFA and sticky hasn't even hit 999 replies >No one left to celebrate with.jpg
>>65575186>>65575187You really think the president handpicks judges?Here's how it happens for every administration>Hey Mr. President, you need to appoint a judge for [State]>Ok, sure, just pick one of [My Party] that won't get me in hot water>How about this one>Sure, that guy
Congratulations ameribros, maybe one day my country can make progress like this on gun reform
>>65575195Drillpress
>>65575215thank you thank you. the next democrat president will rip it all away but we will take advantage of it for now
>>65575215It'd would be nice, but you probably won't. It took forever for the most pro-gun country to get this done. It required a very particular set of people in multiple governmental positions, too. The idea that other western countries would do this is pipe dream.
>>65573794It finally happened
>>65575215You are your best advocate thirdiebro
Wonder how long it will take for the incoming house & senate majority and all the new dem governors to try and kneecap this. Will they at least wait until the next high profile mass shooting?
What's the deal with the doomers in this thread who can't take a win? Are they false flaggers or something?
>>65575206I'd like to say I'd owned one and handled several and every last one is a piece of shit. This is a picture of my KPOS. Can't remember exactly which model but it's the primo all aluminum one and it still sucked. They increase the likelihood of malfunctions, make the controls harder to access, and often cause compatibility problems with suppressors. It's the definition of a solution looking for a problem. It provides nothing that something like an MP9 or MP7 doesn't do better in every category. Unironically even something like a MAC or TEC9 with a stock is going to be better than a pistol chassis kit.
>>65575214>the president has barely anything to do with it>no it was this judge not drumpf>ok he was appointed by trump b-but its not like he hand picked them or anything >please ignore the fact that none of this would've been possible without himFuck off and kill yourself
>>65575237Reddit faggots have been flooding 4chins in general for about a decade now.Their whole intent here is to shit everything up and run what they think is counter ops to try and convince people to be retarded like they are.But they are exceedingly transparent in their endeavors, and are more annoying than anything else.
>>65575227You forgot the current admin starting a war so retarded it is only rivaled by the invasion of Oinkraine in recent memory and by some absolute hail mary this was one of the random freebies his constituency was thrown to try to appease them. This part of the NFA going away is literally a butterfly effect coming off of Semetic Desert Wars. These cans were promised to me 3000 years ago, praise Ha'Shem
We literally won, we liteally fucking won, we did it. We actually did it. out struggles weren't for nothing, and this will motivate people 100000000%+ to be AS HOPEFUL AS POSSIBLE. WE WON WIGGASWe, can sleep peacefully tonight.
>>65575240I like my recover chassis. If it was my only gun I wouldn’t, but it’s fun to pull out every now and then. I get some looks at the range with it.
>>65575237Troons and browns seething that we got a win. Same thing happened yesterday when they banned microsaar from handing out green cards. They're miserable and need everyone else to be miserable too.
>>655752114chan across the board has fallen victim to the muttification of the internetNormalfags and thirdies now outnumber high IQ autists and genuinely enthusiastic hobbyists 10:1With the influx of the unwashed masses, sites with no real mechanism for gatekeeping are destroyedEspecially communities with a high bar for entry, but significant cultural relevance People don't want to clear that bar, but they still want access to the community due to some gay and retarded fixation on the topicThus, the LARPer is bornThey fool other LARPers but real members can sniff them out easilyBut being able to call out LARP instinctively is pointless when there is no one to back you up and a billion other LARPers to dogpile you for seeing past the mask.And so, the only solution is to either remain in this mire of LARP, or to seek out greener pastures. Which are usually hyper-exclusive, decentralized private spaces that you can only chance upon.
>>65575237because it's a massive shitstorm and not likely to stick, and many states are still unaffected.
>>65575065Make sure to vote for him although he already pretty much won. My hope level has never been higher.
>>65575256>they banned microsaar from handing out green cardsIt was more than just microshit
>>65575237It's not a win because it's not permanent. It's just selective enforcement. The NFA still exists and will be enforced in the next administration. They are going to jack the tax up, make registration required agin and the next AG will give you 90 days to register the items you bought during this selective enforcement period.
>>65575248They started this last year when they reduced the tax to zero in OBBB. This was always the intention since GOA was talking about making case of this as soon as the bill passed. Not everything is about sandniggers retard.
>>65575058It’s really crazy how this wave of gun rights orgs have been able to accomplish so much in the past decade whereas the NRA was such fucking boomer bullshit
>>65575249trump has made Agarthan weapons now legalwe won broshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIXKZVXD7Xs
>>65575211>No one left to celebrate with.jpgWELL THEN FUCKIN CELEBRATE MOTHERFUCKER I'LL EVEN PUT ON A CELEBRATION SONG FO YO ASS! I AM SO GONNA BUY SBRs PRIVATELY IN ARIZONAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAndqh2b3Cs
>>65575280That has at least as much to do with the massive shift in the cultural attitude towards guns in the last 30 years.
>>65575196Illiterate migger fell for it again.
>>65575240I think this model would have less of the problems you describe.
>>65575290>heres why this is bad, chudlol u have no power here
>>65575262>but they still want access to the community due to some gay and retarded fixation on the topicIDK why but /k/ in particular has always had a problem with this. Probably because Euros are all constantly coping about not being American and guns are inherently cool to a large portion of males. How the embarrassment doesn't kill them is beyond me, but this board always should've had flags. Holy shit that would've raped them. >They fool other LARPers but real members can sniff them out easilyIt's so depressing to see a thread where a simple question has been asked and we're 20 replies deep with clearly no one having a clue what the answer is because every single one shouldn't be here. >hyper-exclusive, decentralized private spaces that you can only chance uponIdk if the grass would even be any greener. Is it filled with troons like every single /k/ discord I ever looked in? Can I say nigger there?
>>65574008this is exactly what happens
>>65575244Why are you so dedicated to sucking off Trump?Saying that it was more of an effort of the judge that actually set this in motion should not set a reasonable person off like this.You're clearly more interested into shifting the credit to your cultural icon than the actual individual that is directly responsible.MIGA tranny
>>65575293Nope, looked at that one. The quintessential Tarkov Glock 18 stock. If you watch a video of someone shooting it full auto (check FAB defense's YT channel) the thing can flex like 30 degrees under recoil. It's literally just a piece of plastic that's at the worst possible axis point for the recoil, it isn't stable. Even if you made a stable one it'd be a bad idea because now you can torque the fuck out of your plastic Glock frame in a way that isn't intended and probably crack it. Just buy an MP5K or something.
>>65575303It's crazy how much you're seething. Are you even American?
>>65575271This is exactly the trap this situation sets up. Imagine telling millions of Americans they suddenly owe 5k/pop tax on shit they were told was ok to own for (realistically) years. Will get struck down in court or widely ignored. May as well drop a full auto sear at that point is something a lot of people would also conclude
>>65575303when my bro does some cool ass shit i give em i high five
>>65575305Interesting points. I'm thinking your issue is that you want pistol stocks to be for full-auto fire. I see them as an extra point of stabilization for accurate, single shots.
>>65575303Yet you won’t be able to name a more effectively progun president in the past century. Go on. I dare you.
>>65573931NTA, but Washington here. It's only getting worse.
>>65575319>>65573935
>>65575318
BUY AND MAKE AS MANY SUPPRESSORS AND SHORT BARRELED RIFLES AS POSSIBLE!The more that exist in circulation, the more the GOA/FPC can argue that they are in COMMON USE and can get this off the NFA permanently!
>>65575337yes he was talking about disarming trannies and other mentally ill freaks
>>65575316>I see them as an extra point of stabilization for accurate, single shots.It's still going to flex if you pull the thing into you at all. The full auto just demonstrates the maximum flex, which is a lot. Again, why do you want a pistol that is nearly the size of an SMG, IE too big to concealed carry, yet performs worse in every way?
>>65575337>couldn't name onenice concession nigger
>>65575343>>65575348migger cope
>>65575312Ironically, Obama signed the law that let you carry weapons in Libtard Park. Bragged about it too. But no one gives him any credit for that
who's going to be the first one to sell a buntline special replica with the correct barrel length now?
>>65575271>the next AG will give you 90 days to register the items you bought during this selective enforcement period.If they even do that. The statute of limitations on NFA violations is 3-6 years depending on exactly what you do. The AG *can* give you up to 90 days to register and pay. They can also give you 0, and if they give you 0, then you have an unregistered NFA item and no legal excuse for it. If you post a picture of it today, the next administration has their entire tenure to fuck you for it if they decide to go the 0 route.
So, I got one of these Strike Industries Bravo frames for my Springfield Echelon. However, it doesn't come with a stock or brace. Any suggestions on a good stock?It also has a threaded barrel. What 9mm suppressor would look best with it?
>>65573794bad day to be a brace company lmao, who gets most fucked by this?
>>65575350tranny cope :^)
>>65575350oh no
>>65575358maybe sbr dealers?
>>65575361>it actually is the /chug/ trannyoh no no no
>>65575350>>65575361top kek
>>65575354>They can also give you 0, and if they give you 0, then you have an unregistered NFA item and no legal excuse for it.Now your in violation of the NFA, a felony. Hand over your guns goy.
>>65575303So you acknowledge none of this would be happening without TrumpGlad we agree
DO WE HAVE A LIVE MAP OF FREE STATES YET?
>>65573794>Gun law thread stickied on /k/Even the jannies realize that this is too big of a deal to just move the thread to /pol/. Is this it /k/? Is this the beginning of a new era?
>>65575373>Gun law thread stickied on /k/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnuAtvBy-lI
>>65575373Only if you fucking VOTE for 2A candidates.Trump is causing the stinky for a lot of people rn. Which means every fucking vote is going to count the next few years.If not, this can easily be undone with a blue majority.
>>65573959you can still make your own or buy privately anon, as with firearms.
If the floodgates are opened for anything besides explosives and machine guns what is the possibility of the ATF actually doubling back on this and trying to enforce the NFA? By the time of the next administration hundreds of thousands if not millions of units of short barrel firearms and suppressors will be legally in the hands of anyone who cared to buy them. Wouldn't "Common Use" by that point be unarguable?
If anyone wants to build their own can, I got mine from Tell Outfitters. They have HUB thread on at least one end so you can put any HUB mount on it. Don't do that though. Just buy a SilencerCo ASR Bravo mount, it's by far the best in terms of design, weight and QC. I can't remember what type of cups I used with mine but it's 5x.5" cups for the shorter tubes and 7x.625" cups for the longer tubes iirc. I also used an Energetic Armament endcap with mine but they've since changed the thread pitch to D-cell so you'll need to use Tell's endcap or find one that fits the D-cell thread pitch. My can is all titanium cups and tube, it sparks a lot at night. 12oz with ASR mount though so very light and handy. Someone I know who has an identical one but with steel cups is 13.5oz. I have not seen it shot at night but I'd think it'd be better.
>>65575385The problem is that the law hasn't changed, they just aren't enforcing it until further notice. The grace period if enforcement returns is strictly optional.Now, there certainly could be more legal developments that make this permanent, but there could just as easily be changes to the law that "solve" the current deficiency and allows them to go right back to enforcing it as if nothing happened.
>>65575379>Which means every fucking vote is going to count the next few years.If not, this can easily be undone with a blue majority.I'm actually more interested in voting Republican now in November if this decision sticks just so I can take full advantage of it before 2028.It's obvious that Trump told the DOJ and ATF to stand down on this issue for midterms so maybe his people have earned my vote after all. Were it not for the current midterm situation the DOJ would have never decided to not appeal the court case and the ATF would have certainly not decided to expand the ruling to apply to all Americans.Just giving up and easing restrictions is not normal Federal Government behavior since they normally fight to keep their restrictions in place tooth and nail with court rulings against them being as narrow as possible, so good job to President Trump for getting this done. Believe it or not.
>>65575379That's what said and everyone called me a debbie downer
>>65575385>By the time of the next administration hundreds of thousands if not millions of units of short barrel firearms and suppressors will be legally in the hands of anyone who cared to buy them. Wouldn't "Common Use" by that point be unarguable?YES. 100% yes absolutely. These retarded naysayers are so low IQ paranoid that they get hyper fixated on a ridiculous, improbable and logistically impossible scenario. They don't understand how it'd be 100x the hassle of the failed 1994-'04 AWB, or that the ATF does not have .1% of the needed SWAT teams to go kick in the doors of the millions of people who bought them. Absolute worst case scenario you have to hide it behind your hot water heater for an administration and can't take it to the range. And this is like a 1% chance because SCOTUS would probably nuke it.
>>65575385>Wouldn't "Common Use" by that point be unarguable?yeah, you could argue it. I think the biggest factor is going to be just how hard it'll be to roll back. there will potentially be millions of unregistered NFA item buy the time anything changes and that's not going to be east to deal with.
>>65575402Just ignore it, there's a ton of literal glowies in these threads who just want to encourage people to commit NFA violations.There is still a TON of work to be done.The ATF not enforcing this could actually be worse for us. This can make people COMPLACENT.THE JOB ISN'T DONE YOU FAGGOTS.
>>65575404Common Use has been abandoned as an argument, you don't actually follow this shit at all, do you?
>>65575409cringe
>>65575372bump
Whats the best poorfag Suppressor on the market? Trying to pick something up for my 9mm to celebrate
>>65575346They wouldn't be that big when disassembled. I'm interested in clip on stocks because then I can always have a regular pistol for CCing, but also have a weightless stock in a backpack or something that I can use to get more stability whenever I want. I can just leave the thing in a drawer and take it out when going to the range or camping, etc.With something like a flux raider, your gun is semi permanently stuck in a bulky state.
>>65575420one of those oil filter honeypot adapters they were pushing hard
>>65575372>>65575419I'm pretty sure it more or less lines up with the suppressor map
>>65575356Most people are getting ultra light titanium suppressors for pistols, since those doing need boosters to function.
This is so weird. We have a verified tranny trump posting like a facebook boomer to try and trick people not to vote republican
>>65575385>what is the possibility of the ATF actually doubling back on this and trying to enforce the NFA?>>65575393>The problem is that the law hasn't changed, they just aren't enforcing it until further notice.It's going to be very difficult for the ATF to bring back NFA enforcement even if they want to because the whole reason that they are doing this in the first place is because the Big Beautiful Bill eliminated the $200 NFA tax in 2025. The National Firearms Act of 1934 was designed from the ground up as a tax law enacted by Congress's Constitutionally granted authority to issue taxes. In 2025 Congress voted and passed the BBB which removed the $200 tax and cut the legs out from under the NFA's entire legal justification. Without the transfer tax the NFA is simply a gun ban, which is unconstitutional per the 2A and therefore the NFA is unenforceable as written.So even if the ATF is ordered by President Newsom to resume NFA registration and enforcement in 2029 the issue of the unconstitutionality of the NFA will remain because the $200 transfer tax can only be reinstated by a literal Act of Congress. So while there are ways for the ATF to resume dicking with people they are essentially in legal checkmate as long as the BBB is still law. The National Firearms Act of 1934 has not been repealed but Congress itself has effectively destroyed it.Furthermore, the ATF is unlikely to even want to bring these provisions of the NFA back since they have been absolutely swamped with NFA paperwork for at least the last 20 years hence the 9+ month average wait on stamps for so long. Deregulating SBR's and SBS's and so on literally makes the ATF's job easier and the ATF itself actually released a white paper in 2017 specifically saying that they wanted these items deregulated as you may recall.https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2017/02/atf-white-paper-recommends-changes-in-suppressor-laws/Today's outcome was an inevitability to any objective observer.
>>65575032>We got FRTs under Biden.The fuck? No we didn't. The settlement was in May 2025, under Trump.Why you lying?
>>65575423Minnesota Chads can't stop winning.
>>65575421Anon, just put a red dot and decent trigger on your pistol and practice a lot. I'm not even good with a pistol and I can very easily hit a human sized piece of steel at 100yds with my RMR on my mediocre trigger Gen 4 Glock.
>>65575150>gun rights keep expanding, but you can’t use them for anything without the government telling you you’re a bad guyYou’re going to hand everything over to the “based police” as soon as they demand it, shitheel.
>>65575423GOD I FUCKING HOPE SO
>>65575436>$200 transfer tax can only be reinstated by a literal Act of CongressWhy do you guys keep acting like this is a long shot???The BBB was "literal Act of Congress". You think if there's a blue majority that they won't do that?Around gun grabbers, watch your ass. I guarantee they're cooking something up to fuck us over.
>>65575440Ilaah waa weyn yahay. Hambalyo walaal.
>>65575404The next administration doesn't have to confiscate your guns with SWAT teams they can just make you a felon.>jack up NFA tax so its unaffordable>make you register>gives you 0-90 days to comply (you can't)>you are now in possession of an unregistered NFA itemNow they just have to wait for you to get pulled over or use Flock cameras to stalk you if they want you bad enough.What we have is a 2 year window or trap depending on how you look at it. What we need is SBRs and suppressors to be PERMANENTLY removed from the NFA. Or better yet the NFA declared unconstitutional and thrown out all together but that will never happen.
>>65575460I know this is bullshit to derail the thread but this is literally all entrapment if they try prosecuting anyone over this
>>65575460>What we need is SBRs and suppressors to be PERMANENTLY removed from the NFAAnd the best way to achieve that is to BUY AS MANY AS POSSIBLE! That way, when they eventually do try to reinstate enforcement, organizations like the GOA or FPC can take then to court over it and argue common use.The more regular, law-abiding people have these items in their possession, the harder the feds will have to fight to keep theses firearms regulated.As citizens, our job is to be the coyote making the fed's job as painful and difficult as possible.
>>65575460>>jack up NFA tax so its unaffordableWill only apply to states that require NFA registration>>make you registerWhat part of "they cannot do this under the current ruling and it's past the appeal period" do you not understand? No they cannot.>>gives you 0-90 days to comply (you can't)Congrats, you don't understand what a grace period is. >>you are now in possession of an unregistered NFA itemYeah that's why you put it behind your water heater and told them you sold it, retard. Bring on the fantasies about the dog being shot and the wife being raped by feds. Congratulations though, you are exactly the kind of low IQ naysayer I was referring to in my earlier post. No idea what the law is or how anything works yet full of opinions to share.
>>65575427Please explain what you mean. Who’s the tranny and what are they known for doing previously?
>>65575460Damn, there's still anons on here that aren't brainrotted zoomers or literal glowies?
>>65575440>im actually considering moving there but dont they have rules regarding the SBR's?
>>65574020>We won. Shareblue lost.Doomers gonna doom of course but the adversaries of liberty have certainly been taking some massive hits to their agenda these last few years.>Coof lockdowns fail>Gun control as a political issue effectively dead due to Floyd riots and inner city crime sprees arm both left and right>Twitter goes full red pill>Roe V. Wade invalidated>Antifa declared terrorist group>USAID money printer dismantled>Deportations are happening sort of kind of to such a degree that illegals won't show up to work on some days>Venuzuela conquered and communist dictator deposed in one night>Congress passes law to kill $200 NFA tax>Courts kill NFA registry
>>65575481>but dont they have rules regarding the SBR's?no, SBRs and suppressors are fine. SBSs are banned though.
>>65575460All that would do is create millions of felons overnight and give said felons a great reason to just stop caring about gun laws altogether.
i understand this isnt a full win yet but dont you guys think that FPC GOA and maybe others are already as we speak drafting up potentially dozens of lawsuits and letters to AG's etc ? as one person said above the 5th amendment could remove the interstate travel part in some scenarios , and in states that are a grey zone where nfa items are legal but still need to be registered due to state law im sure lawsuits are being cooked up as we speak . i think we can celeberate yet acknowledge that there is more work to be done ASAP so we just need to get on these orginizations asses and donate vote etc
>>65575484>the adversaries of liberty have certainly been taking some massive hits to their agenda these last few years.They’ve also had massive wins with surveillance, AI bots, 1A issues, and turning previously extremist positions into the mainstream. My point isn’t to demoralize anyone, but to remind everyone that we need to keep this momentum up and keep fighting for our rights.
>>65575436>they have been absolutely swamped with NFA paperwork for at least the last 20 years hence the 9+ month average wait on stamps for so longI do agree with the rest of your post, and I don't doubt that NFA paperwork has been a burden for the ATF, but the wait times were actually caused by their queueing system in regards to approvals or delays in the FBI background checks. When the FBI responded with a delay or there was an error in the form, the ATF would sit on that form and not process more until the delays were resolved (maybe as a labor-saving measure). Once this streamlined approvals dropped down to between a few days and a month. Happy to be proven wrong on this because my source is "people on the internet yapping", and I've learned how often that's actually correct.
>>65575039Gas is over 6 here, don't be mistaken.
>>65575460Remind me, what was the compliance rate when the pistol brace amnesty was opened?You WERE around for that, right?
>>65575481No, It's SBS's that are banned if I'm not mistaken.Minnesota has some weird gun law priorities:>no SBS>no FRT or Hyper Gat trigger accelerators>no cheap Zinc guns because muh melty pointOtherwise you can own any salt rifle and clipazine you want and suppressors were legalized in 2015 for ownership and hunting by a Democrat Governor no less. Also MN allows ownership of "some" Destructive Devices although I have never been able to find a legal definition for "some". We are also shall issue with no waiting period for handgun purchases, no registries of any kind, and "no guns" signs do not carry force of law. We also have ample state land in the north and Minnesota Power treats it's company land as state land for the public going so far as to build and maintain their own camp sites for free public use. Minnesota Power was recently bought by Blackrock though so who knows what things will be like in the future.Nevertheless, fuck off we're full. Go to Wisconsin.
>>65575507basics of lawfare isn't catching all the criminals it's creating avenues to criminalize you when it's convenient or serves their purpose. you should know this.
WHAT ABOUT THE MARKING STATUTE?!
rare /k/ sticky::stop music::
>>65575509thats shocking hopefully they deport all the somalis and shit and the state becomes the agarthan paradise its meant to be , and trust me i wouldnt be considering moving there if it wasnt for the money lol
>>65575496>massive wins with surveillanceIn fairness, that shit grew up like a weed overnight and overnight, upon people becoming widepread aware of it, it's being pushed back on massively. DESU we need a lawsuit to go before SCOTUS on these cameras because they won't stop until they're declared unconstitutional, which they are. >AI botsThis is a major issue and is killing the internet. >1A issuesMost of the Israel stuff has been blowing smoke because they can't do anything solid due to the first amendment. It did get some brown people deported though and turned the (((mainstream media))) against Muslims so that was kinda good.>and turning previously extremist positions into the mainstreamHey, at least it affected our side too. Having Chucky Kirk, frontman of the GOP establishment youth pipeline martyr'd by some literally bussy fucker was also a blessing imo. Got two birds stoned at once with that one, eh?
>>65575453It's been over a decade and Congress still can't even move itself to remove the Filibuster. Don't act like repealing the Big Beautiful Bill is going to be an easy task. Congress is useless and once they pass something into law it tends to stick around forever and every gun law is proof of this using your very own logic.Sorry Anon, but we're winning now and you will just have to learn to deal with it.
>>65575293>Connect to roll pin near top of frame so it doesn't localize recoil impulse to the tactical skittle slot of your Glock frame >Cast main body around steel angle iron reenforce or make whole thing out of cast aluminum and anodize Now we'll probably see a whole wealth of drop in stocks and grip panel replacer stock extensions for handguns. Someone with a 3d printer and smelter could probably turn some aluminum cans into one by the end of the week with sand casting.
>>65575249We won a battle, the war persist. The war will be won when the Hughes amendment finally fucking falls>but muh FTRTsIt still needs to fucking die. I want antigun faggots utterly broken and demoralized so they never try gun control ever again.
>>65575540>so they never try gun control ever againYou know that will never happen. Eternal vigilance, etc.
>>65575509>Also MN allows ownership of "some" Destructive Devices although I have never been able to find a legal definition for "some".from my research, I'm pretty sure it applies to those shotguns that got classified as DDs. I still haven't found a concrete answer though.
>>65575379But muh gas pricesMuh eggs
>>65575540>I want antigun faggots utterly broken and demoralized so they never try gun control ever again.Me too anon. I want all this done through SCOTUS too so they're on RAPED status at minimum until they recapture the court. Assault Weapons Bans are going to be ruled on this year and I'm kind of hopeful on it. If they get ruled unconstitutional it's going to fucking obliterate all gun control groups like a nuke. They have nothing left if you can buy the evil AR15 babykiller in every single state.
>>65575522>hopefully they deport all the somalis and shit and the state becomes the agarthan paradise its meant to beSomali's almost exclusively live in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and St. Cloud. They can't survive in such a cold state without government gibs and they refuse to leave the cities and just pile up more and more in the same urban areas. Minnesota is still majority white and the Democrats are quickly learning that Somali's are useless for enacting demographic replacement because they refuse to go anywhere.Somali's have been useful for financial fraud and stealing votes for the Dems but they won't be carrying out any white genocide and once the gibs run out or are cut they will probably flee to warmer regions. They were shoehorned into Minnesota for political purposes in the 90's and they just don't and can't function here and even though it's been 30 years they still have no roots here.>>65575484
>>65575553thats beautiful to hear, hopefully they just get deported, I have noticed when i search up cities in MN and check the demographics alot of them are like 90% white or close which is nice
>>65575509you forgot to mention the permit to purchase/transfer. it's not too big of a deal, but still.
>>65575325I look like this and say these things.
>>65575480There are plenty of 80iq people like that guy left on the board anon, don't worry
i hate living in washington
>>65575505>Gas is over 6 here, don't be mistaken.The political pressure that Trump is getting on gas prices and Iran is probably why he is throwing us a bone here and telling the Feds to deregulate gun stuff. So at least we got something out of it.
>>65574018>AK>greek lizard camo>ponytail-ballcap combo>that fucking smilewould.
>>65575566It's only a permit to purchase, not to own, and it only applies to purchases from FFL's. You can still do private sales and 80% builds without needing any paperwork at all.Also, the permit to purchase is free and state law requires them to approve or deny it in 30 days or less, so they can't just cock block you by slow rolling the paper work like they can in New York or Illinois.A carry permit is also a permit to purchase and they last for five years. Also a fuck ton of states recognize Minnesota carry permits.
>>65574849I'm a single issue voter. I vote on guns. I honestly don't care about the $3b (pocket change in a federal budget) or whatever. For context, that's enough money to run a medium sized hospital in a Midwest city for 6 months. Trump delivered on guns. Therefore I will vote red. It's that simple
>>65575569For me it's telling hot chicks that certain Alaska and California police departments issue and use AK47 pattern rifles.
>>65575586I know all that, that's why I said it's not too big of a deal.
>>65575560>hopefully they just get deportedI suspect that Ilhan Omar being so despised and the recent Somali fraud scandal is the beginning of the end for them but we shall see.
>>65575599k
>>65575280>>65574867Come to think of it, I haven't heard anything about the NRA for a while. Did it dissolve or something?
>everyone starts condemning Trump for reversing course and fellating Putin once more on trade sanctions>suddenly a torrent of offtopic zigger /pol/ spam about gun control It’s all so tiresome
>>65575614>NFA gets shit on>suddenly a torrent off topic /pol/ spam about trumpit's all so tiresome
But anon... Trump making trade deals with Putin isn't remotely on topic. You can't complain about gun control threads being off-topic /pol/ spam and use that as your alternative....
>>65575427There's a flood of these TDS troons from reddit and discord that will force hate against Trump and republicans into anything and everything they can. That's their only real reason for even being on 4chan, and the people they work for paid a lot of money to make that happen. You can see it on pretty much every board.
>NFA basically nuked>12 hours later, all of 500 posts in the single megathread and half of them are dooming and/or shrieking about other political shitthis board is fucking gone, the /k/ from the mid-2010s would've been creaming its drawers for days on end and posting all sorts of projects and shenanigans
>>65575633Anon I would legitimately be shocked if /k/ was still mostly American by this point. In all honesty I don't know why I'm still here, the community and place I knew 15 years ago is long, long dead and buried.
>>65575634im american at least and a real person
>>65574490You can get non-AW AOWs on a 4473 now in CA, long as the FFL is willing to do a Form 2. 12-gauge pump action "not a shotgun" with barrels under 18" count as AOWs and 2A Zone down in Upland has been doing a brisk business even before the rulings because they build them on virgin Mossberg 500 receivers and CA has a specific legal carveout for AOWs as long as they don't have any "assault weapon features".
>>65573794Rare based move to pin it, but credit where credit is due.AVE NEX ALEA.
>>65575350GODDAMN, YOU GOT ABSOLUTELY BLOWN THE F U C K OUT
>>65575655SALUTO NEX ALEA
>>65575633 Masturbate on your own time, faggot. 4chan isn't your hugbox.
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>>65575612Wayne LaPierre was ousted for fraud or something and the NRA essentially faded away. In 2012 the NRA was the bane of the mainstream medias existence and now it's nothing. Between 2012 and 2026 gun ownership went from boomer fudd stuff to being high speed low drag radical brandon herrera tier zoomie slotting floppies stuff and now organizations like GOA and NSSF have taken the mantle of gun rights for the new generation of gun owners who don't even care about hunting and just want to stop the government and looters.It's a whole new world and the NRA never adapted.
