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thread for cis women dating trans women & trans women dating cis women

QOTT: what're your greatest strengths and weaknesses as a partner?

NO ARGUING!! NO DRAMA!! NO TRANSPHOBIA!! NO T4T POSTING!! NO YAOI!!
if you don't like c4t/t4c get out!! not every space is made for you!! there are other places you can be!! please respect the purpose of this thread and be nice

Tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/c4t
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hello i would like 1 (one) cis chaser gf please
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First for desperately need a cis asian gf.

>qott:
Pros: I've been told I'm smart and pretty. I'm not broke.

Cons: tranny, autist, not athletic, down bad for asian girls
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2nd for pale ginger trans girls belong with sunkissed cis women of color
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>>35455743
so true

Source for picrel?
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Pros: im cute and nice
Cons: i will probably cheat
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>>35455470
>QOTT
pros: i don't think i have any unless you count giving her unconditional love as one
cons: high maintenance so she'd have to occasionally talk to me
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>>35455743
me and who
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>>35455743
based. me and who
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>>35456082
No one cause you said you'd never let a black person touch you
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>>35456082
didnt you used to say that brown women were disgusting?
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it makes me feel weird knowing my cis gf's sister is trans
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>>35456308
i've never said this
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>>35455743
this is how hearts are broken
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>>35456343
Am I a freak for thinking that's kinda hot...?
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>>35456734
yes.
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>>35456734
No, you should fuck both of them
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Im watching Madagascar and just came to the conclusion that Melman and Gloria are a c4t couple (Melman is a sensitive twinkhon and Gloria is a thick cis bi woman)
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>>35457010
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>>35456734
No, it's definitely hot, especially if you imagine anon as her cis gf's trans sister stand-in mentally, because that means somewhere a cis girl is imagining getting off to her trans sister. The kink potential is off the charts.
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>>35456654
sophie bring back your discord
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>>35457766
account or server?
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>>35457791
account
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>>35457816
i hate discord
i did cope and make a new one but no one ever likes to talk to me
but if you post yours i will add you on the new one
or i can just post my username i guess
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>>35457844
I do, I just have been going through traumatic things so I've been gone. I think you know who's talking, you can add me on there if you want
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>>35457861
"idk.uhh"
i don't ever remember anyone's username
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>>35457902
just check twitter then
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>>35457921
definitely have no idea who this is in that case as i haven't used twitter in years
add my discord account i posted the username
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>>35457844
>no one ever likes to talk to me
Perhaps it's time you reflect on how you approach others and make a few changes? Or you can keep blaming everyone else because it's easier.
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There's this really cute early trans or trans femme cashier at the gas station nearby. I feel like a bit of a creep but I go in just to see her.

So hey, older cis women might be creeping on you. You never know.
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>>35458535
Can you come creep on me?
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>>35458479
Guarantee it will be the second one
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>>35458594
you are correct
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>>35458535
hot
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>>35458535
That's so cute omg, do you talk to her?
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>>35459263
Yeah only a little so far. Haven't stuck around to chat longer yet. The banter is good though. Knowing my luck she's straight, but you never know. She might be into soft butches. She complimented my hair.
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Is that TWO (2) butches in this thread who are into trans women? Should I be pursuing butches??
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How do I find a girlfriend I am desperate
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Why is lawful fem for lawful fem so difficult?
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>>35460372
kys passoid
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im so fucking hammered
i almost said a racial slur to my coworkers but i held back
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>>35461704
Trip on acorn
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>>35461746
why
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>>35461886
yikes
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>>35460356
You have to talk to women for that
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My goal is to have a gf as hot as the chadhons’ I hangout with gfs some day.
I know that’s a lot to ask for as a passoid but it’s all I want
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I'm getting into old joshi women's wrestling. Back when the fans were mostly women and the violence was ultra. My sister got me into wrestling. She's straight. We're both cis. It's a women's sport. I wish we had woman on woman blood sport in modern wrestling. It doesn't compare.
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>>35461704
>>35461886
this is who chloe was naively defending last thread when we said she was a bad person lol
chloe don't take this as criticism because you are a cinnamon roll but that also makes you susceptible to awful people getting on your good side since you're all good side
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>>35463070
I mean look at this. These ladies are artists in pain.
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>>35463070
would you compete against a suspiciously feminine biological male with like 2 months of box experience
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One more because damn
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>>35463097
yeah I'm assuming she hasn't seen this
it's funny because after people posted this screenshot recently acorn said "that was years ago/I've grown since then", lol and lmao even
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>>35457010
>>35457107
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>>35463134
Isn't this an entirely different trip
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>>35463209
no it's acorn's old username, she used to go by creature too
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>>35463209
acorn changes it every few months to avoid accountability
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>>35460121
Keep at it, I am rooting for you, it would make for such a cute story
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>>35463336
Big yikes
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you people are so dramatic sometimes
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>>35464709
so are you when someone calls you a man voiced rapehon who doesn't belong in women's spaces
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>>35464709
Was it you or not though
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>tell trans gf i want to try spanking her
>she seems unsure but i convince her to try it
>start spanking her on the butt
>she starts crying pretty quickly but that's normal during impact play ime
>after like a minute and a half she breaks down and tells me to stop
>stop obviously
>gf still seems unsettled a few hours later and seems to be trying to avoid me, i've tried cuddling her and kissing her but she refuses
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>>35465920
Good job dipshit, you did something she didn't even really seem sure about and didn't even stop to ask if she was enjoying it when she was clearly not, you deserve this
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>>35466043
i didn't think it was an issue, spanking is pretty common and tame and we have a safe word
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>>35466175
Yeah might have some trauma or something they don't know how to deal with. Maybe spanked as a kid and didn't process it well. They weren't ready for that kind of play. Hopefully she's able to process things like an adult. I'm very tired of the comfort and fixing cycle when my partner isn't capable of working through their feelings alone so they can communicate the issues. I hope you two can communicate effectively.
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>>35466527
Imagine the levels of sociopathy required to take on a partner you know has unresolved issues and then get mad at them when, shocking, they display those issues. It's not their fault you bit off more than you can chew
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>>35466604
Often times you don't know they have unresolved issues because they're good at hiding it even from themselves. :(

Don't know what's got you so on the attack
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cis women stop being sociopaths challenge
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damaged women expecting their partners to fix them when they haven't done the self work to know what's broken to begin with challenge
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>>35467319
I want a partner as damaged as me so we can both be unhealthy together
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>>35467334
That just sounds sad. I want someone that's building their life, trying to improve, and willing to share that with someone similar.
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>>35455470
it’s so over for me. my best friend is getting surgery next week and we’re not gonna be able to go out and hang for like 2 months. it might be selfish to say, and i am happy for her, but the equilibrium of my life is fucked now. usually when i’m going out with someone i don’t also have a active social life outside of that person, and it leads to too much codependence. this time it was going perfect. i would see my friends every weekend, and i’ve been going on a date with the girl im seeing every week. everything is balanced. two healthy strong pillars in my life. now the one i was relying on the most has collapsed and i have no idea how this is going to affect me. i hope i can see other friends still while my bestie is recovering until june so i don’t fuck up things on the dating side due to it having too much pressure from being my only social interaction. that would be really really bad. i’m panicking i really thought it was gonna be smooth sailing ahead but now i have no idea what to expect
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>>35469495
Can't you go see her in the hospital?
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>>35470247
idk maybe but i don’t know if she’d wanna do that
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>>35471127
You should ask! She might appreciate the support
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>>35471526
maybe but i’d feel bad just inviting myself like that, i feel like she’d need to ask me
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>>35471535
"If you need any company call me" is pretty easy
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Is everyone just getting high tonight or what
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not a single cis woman on sight
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>>35471535
I dont know your friend but people typically like it when their loved ones take the initiative to show care and support.
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>>35473455
yeah i was sorry...i'm here now
>>35473505
i'm literally right here
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>>35473787
you are not a cis woman, you are a trans woman
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>>35473797
okay i guess i am a trans woman now
what should i do first
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How do you handle cisf chasers who are really hsts chasers?
I.e. they frequent gay bars and hang out with drag queens and are more or less trying to fuck the prettiest most passing drag queen.

Like I'm a passoid but I'm not a huss. I don't have that attitude.
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>>35473806
chase cis women
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>>35473806
err... i- i don't know, i just wanted to lure out cis women but you literally just... i- i think i have to leave
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>>35473806
jack off probably just to see what it's like
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>>35463113
hot
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>>35455973
hot desu
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>>35472125
ok that’s a good idea, i’ll keep that in mind
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>>35473455
hella
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>>35474373
Just weed?
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I want to take a cis girls virginity by giving her mine
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>>35475294
hot..top or bottom though
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>>35475334
Begocked top...
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>>35475294
yo same
>>35477045
yo same
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>>35455470
Does this thread work for c4p too or does that need a separate thread?
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>>35478450
what's that?
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>>35478598
cisf4pooner
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Another day of thinking cosmetic surgery will make people love me, even though what really makes me unloveable is autism
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i’m getting closer to making her mine
soon i will have a little latina zoomer cis gf
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>>35479035
this triggers my ptsd
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I'm a 5'2 tranner and I need a 5'7+ cis gf who I will top and then be the little spoon for afterwards c:
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>>35479035
The dream wife.
>t. tall redheaded millennial trans gf
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>>35478661
No

DNWPTP
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>>35479087
how come?
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>>35455470
it’s actually unironically going to be over for me because i’m not the best texter. talking irl im great at but i’m not good at texting very captivating things and it’s going to be the end of everything. i really hope we can start seeing each other more than just once a week
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>>35482633
> i really hope we can start seeing each other more than just once a week
Tell her this
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Why are lesbians so chill to talk to? They've always been kind to me, even when I was an autistic little egg boy. A lot of my friends have been lesbians, and my sister is too. Idk what my point with this is but shoutout to lesbians ily
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>>35483204
They're male brained
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>>35483204
this beautiful lesbian woman with tattoos dyed my hair for the first time (I was an egg), and I think about her a lot. shoutout to lesbians fr
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I aint gay I just peruse every thread looking for pooners but I agree, lesbians are consistently the chillest people and this is remarked by so many different groups
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>>35483332
>literally women exclusively attracted to women
>they're male brained
explain your logic
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>>35484447
It's in the faces
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>>35484646
To elaborate:
Both the gay man and the straight woman are smiley. Both gays and lesbians are skinnier/hotter/younger.
If you look at just expressions the lesbian and the straight man are similar.
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>>35484653
Special interest activated
I loooove phrenology
I love measuring skulls
I love deducing charector through appearance
I have so many of these images I am going to make a coffee table book with them
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Senpai I actually just pissed my pants
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I was drunk at ofc
And I drove back to my Airbnb
And when I pulled in or started to come out in little spurts
I rushed up to the front door and got my key out but it was too late
I had to just let it go
I wish this was a shitpost
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>>35485128
I think you should kill yourself instead
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>>35485649
Can I sniff them and rub my face on them?
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>>35485776
Too bad. I think you should stop posting.
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>>35485649
impressive. How'd you manage that
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I love her so much, I just wish there any time or space for me in her busy life
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uwu
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>>35479019
autism can be loveable nona don't lose hope
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>>35482001
reasons (sad and cringe ones)
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>>35489727
did you fumble a little latina zoomer cis gf?
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>>35489952
>gf
lol no we weren't even friends or anything like that I just made the mistake of thinking someone liked me and was interested in me as a person or actually meant the things she said
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how do i always manage to lose so many hairbands
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>>35455470
i miss my gf grinding her pussy all over my face and how she tasted i miss her slapping me and strangling me and spitting in my mouth and biting me and calling me names and threatening my life and and and

killing me that i can't see her again until august i want her to fuck me so bad sorry just had to vent guys haha.
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>>35490382
it's okay anon, at least you'll see your gf this year...i probably won't see mine until february or so and last time i saw her was in november...
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>>35490382
God I'm so scared of this I think I'd cum if a woman spit in my mouth and that sort of patheticness isn't attractive

Keep hold of what you have anon
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I get why cisf chasers are disproportionately black and latina.
It's because young white stacy blondies are intimidating as fuck and massively entitled. They need to be taken down a peg or two and white trannies are them taken down about 5 pegs.
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>>35491127
That sort of patheticness is very attractive to dommes, you just have to find a dominant woman

>>35491152
Or maybe they're just into race play
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>>35491152
>tfw no big booty latina cisf chaser
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>>35491198
Hot..
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This girl I'm seeing seems to be getting too interested in me, but I'm a slut and I talk to multiple girls at once
Should I tell her?
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>>35492904
Yes, either way. You should decide if you want to focus on her and stop talking to the other women if so. Don't lead her on
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>>35492931
You could also see if she's into a poly/open relationship
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I don’t think they like being called chasers
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>>35491152
honestly, you're not wrong
t. cisf
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>>35491082
that's brutal, i'm really sorry. i was on the verge of suicide before she came to visit me, literally. it saved my life lol, the sex was just a bonus. spending time with her was amazing. lets you know what you're fighting for. i hope you can see your gf sooner, anon, or that you two can live closer to each other at some point. the only thing that has kept me going through this is knowing one day we'll be living together in some shitty apartment, i hope you guys have some kind of game plan like that too to keep motivation.

>>35491127
it is attractive desu to the right person, you have to know your audience and look for it. just don't date bottoms and you're fine. you can groom most doms into being more extreme anyways (evil protip)
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>>35493476
The normal ones are in lesgen, this one is for gock chasers.
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>>35493636
there's not a single normal person in lesgen
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normal people are boring
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>>35493627
...how would I go about allowing her to be more evil with me
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I'm sorry trans girls, I don't know if it makes me a chaser or not, but I've been enjoying futagen a little too much...
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>>35491152
I really like what that one anon said a couple threads ago about black and latina cisf chasers and white trans women understanding each other better, bcuz of general societal racism and transphobia and stuff.
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>>35493858
no that's hot please lovingly objectify me in my individually desirable ways
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>>35493858
what the hell is futagen
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Someone congratulate me for not jerking off for a whole week
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>>35495858
what's wrong with jerking off?
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>>35493858
So based
I enjoy it too
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>>35455470
can’t wait to become even more jaded and disillusioned with life when this inevitably falls apart lol
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I chatted with the gas station girl again. She gets all bubbly and cute when we're chatting. I know, I know, I've been a cashier, I know you just want to be friendly with nice customers you recognize. But she's cute!
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hello i would like to die please thank you
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>>35497142
Rooting for you, that's adorable
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>>35497263
no don't it's lesbian week at least wait till after
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>>35498169
>it's lesbian week
Source?
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>>35498531
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>>35499136
News to me. Being a femme tho we're always invisible no matter the time of year haha...
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I’ve been “”a woman”” for longer than I’ve been a guy now and if there is one thing I don’t like about being a woman it’s gotta be the ‘mold’. I don’t fit in with other women and I don’t think I ever will. I do have female friends, but they’re all high IQ or autism. I just can’t vibe with the average girl group or even average woman. It’s pretty isolating and has made me go for a more androgynous style. Many times have people asked me if I am FtM or if I’m perhaps an ftm egg. I assume this means I pass without having that inner female spark or whatever that others can just sniff out (fascinating since people always called me a girl - and thought I was a girl during childhood). It is what it is and I can’t change my personality, I’m fine being myself

But I do wonder how this relates to dating? Can my experience be a point of insight that people either relate to/admire or is it just objectively shit since nobody wants to date a woman that has guy vibes? I’ve started wearing pretty much only guy clothes outside now and I know butches are well beloved but I’m also far from that. I’m just weird idk,,
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>>35499803
I don't get this. Just get a lesbian flag pin or something similarly small for when you want to signal your queerness. Put a lesbian flag sticker on or in your wallet that you can "accidentally" flash.

It's all communication. It might feel a bit on the nose, but it'll give you another tool to utilize.
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>>35500213
>just wear your pink triangle fag stop considering how lesbophobia is going to harm you outside of finding a gf randomly
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>>35500299
>terrified of people knowing I'm lesbian
You must be incredibly confident in your passing. Where do you live where anyone gives a shit about lesbians?
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>>35500320
>Where do you live where anyone gives a shit about lesbians?
nta but this is still like 90% of the world where being queer is dangerous
rural areas of liberal provinces can be just as bad as some of the worst countries overall
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>>35500345
For lesbians? Even in rural corn land I'd have old regulars after a bit of conversation get all "I don't like queers but you lesbians are alright." Old drunks love getting any woman's attention. They don't care about butches either, since so many rural women already look like men.

Remember this started with femmes being invisible. If you're rural then everyone is invisible, not just femmes.
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>>35500384
Invisibility =\= danger. Anon could be playing into the invisibility because her housing or work arrangements don't allow her to be out and proud. Which, like I said, is still quite normal in about 90% of the world.
>If you're rural then everyone is invisible
Lol, just lol. You've obviously never lived outside of a major city if you haven't seen people who "look gay" get damn near killed in the street.
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>>35500458
I lived rural, and did rural delivery and installation in a 100 mile radius of nothing but corn. I'm a 5'4" cis woman that uses androgens, has a deep voice, and never wears make up. Most femme thing about me is I keep my hair long. I'm not a threat so no one cares. Old farmers love me. I didn't do installations in trashy trailor parks. I'm talking the ones that always look like a tornado blew through a week ago. Nice tailor parks were full of mostly hard working kind people. Drug addicts can't afford a new fridge. If I was a twinkhon? I'd probably be dead from blunt force trauma to the head.

So on the topic of femme invisibility
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>>35500493
It's because you fit into the conservative hivemind of "nothing but my personal experience is real, and I dissociate from my personal experience as much as possible".
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>>35500973
There's so many butch het women in rural areas. Butches are stealth. Femmes are stealth.

You can be a loud and proud dyke with a wife and an alpaca farm in stinky onions fermentation towns in Illinois. Even the Amish will be cool with you as long as you stick to polite conversation. But be visibly trans? That's terrifying. I want to take the girl I'm seeing to those places. Eat at an Amish buffet and go hiking on a gorgeous rural estate with statue gardens. But she's too scared. It sucks that it has to be like this.
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>>35501116
>loud and proud dyke with a wife and an alpaca farm
god i wish that were me
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>>35501116
Youre the coolest person ive seen in a while
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>>35501116
I noticed this too and am not rural so wasn’t sure if it’s a thing.
What’s going on there/why do the straight girls do it there?
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>>35502184
A lot of people stop caring about their appearances and just want to be practical. I really like the blue collar type women. They can get hard as fuck from working with guys all day.
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I think I'm gonna sign up for BumbleBFF to try and meet people in a non-dating context. I just don't feel good enough to date, but I really want to meet people
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>>35501116
visibly trans is just a polite way to call the girl you're dating a hon
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>>35504082
But isn't it beautiful that cisf chasers aren't afraid to date hons? I think it's really sweet
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>>35504109
>isn't it great that people seen as women are dating people seen as men
I love heterosexuality.
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>>35504146
>visibily trans women are seen as men
LMAO c'mon anon get real. If they were seen as men, they would be afforded respect
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>>35504172
>unironically believing in the patriarchy
No wonder you need a trans gf.
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>>35504146
>butch women are okay
>femme women are okay
>hons are not okay
Strange, all of these are not-men yet one is somehow different from the others.
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>>35504172
All trans people are treated as an in between female and male and are gendered according to whatever people think will hurt them the most at the time. Gender is never used for validation it's only used as a weapon. Non passing trans girls are just subjected to this more frequently because they're more often correctly identified as trans but it's all really the same dynamic. You're seen as too much of a man to be a woman but too much of a woman to be a real man.
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>>35504235
true this is why I just gave up and I'll never try dating ever again
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>"this dude dresses like a fag, let's show him how real men behave"
>proceed to beat your gf to death
>all you can think of is blaming it on misogyny
>not transphobia, not transmisogyny, not even homophobia
Wew how are chasers going to answer to this shit? Find out in the next bait reply by some crypto TERF who just wants dick and sees you as a compromise to dating a real man OR woman who rightfully stay away from her crazy.
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>>35504332
>some dudes beat up your faggot ass
>"hehe this will make a perfect gotcha for those stupid TERFs"
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>>35504392
You seem to be hallucinating since I wasn't beaten up.
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>>35504414
You mean the trans genocide isnt actually real?
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>>35504442
>TERF talking points as comeback
Astounding. How could I have ever expected this outcome when questioning a cis woman? Truly flabbergasted.
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Why are you people so obsessed with turning this into a battleground for your self hatred and brainworms? You are like poison and will die unloved
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I like how easy it is to pass as cis here. All you have to do is not be totally disconnected from reality.
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Why so bitter? My partner doesn't even have a dick she's post srs. She's an incredibly kind woman with interesting hobbies and a lot of passion. She supports me in my pursuits. She is as much a woman as any other. We don't all have brain worms.
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At least this thread is starting to make my transphobia pass as cis.
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>>35504497
>You are like poison and will die unloved
Just world fallacy. I am like poison and I am loved :)
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>>35504498
It's just like one or two insane trannies shadowboxing with ghosts because they can't accept that cis women can love them. It's very pathetic and very transparent
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>>35504497
>You are like poison and will die unloved
nngh yesh arder
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>>35504497
Because whenever I hang out with other trannies there’s always chadhons there with extremely pretty cis gfs. Meanwhile I’m a tiny passoid and cis women don’t give me the time of day.
Kinda makes you bitter. Even pooners slobber all over the chadhons.

Meanwhile I go anywhere else and people (straight guys and straight women) tell me how pretty I am nonstop. Queer people just dislike me, including queer women and it’s because I pass as a conventionally attractive woman rather than a gnc chad :(
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I believe cis women can love and support and genuinely see trans women as themselves, just not me
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>>35504605
Dialing it back a bit I’m not even that bitter. It’s fine if people are into chadhons.
But the fact is most cis women dating trans women are hon4cis.
There needs to be a separate safe space for passoid wlw to discuss their dating struggles without it turning into a hon worship space due to how the numbers are.
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>>35504679
>There needs to be a separate safe space
No, there's really no need for that.
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>I’m not even that bitter
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>>35504679
Do you project your insecurities this hard in person?
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>>35504692
There really does. It’s such a minor niche group it gets easily overwhelmed by all the John 50s with wives who have totally different struggles.
“I’m a transwoman dating cis women” usually means that. A John 50 scenario.

But “I’m a 25 year old transwoman post ffs and 7 years on hrt and have a hard time dating” is a totally different perspective.
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>>35504708
I know it's really embarrassing lmao I understand how she feels but she should really consider that people aren't into her because she's extremely bitter and catty
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I think we need a safe space for rich girls to discuss how hard dating is as a rich girl away from these unwashed poors
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>>35504747
What about "I'm a early 30s non-op boymoder 10 years on HRT"
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>>35504812
Depends on the boymoder
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>>35504812
Literally me except 22 and 5 years on hrt
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It’s interesting how this gen gradually took on a pro hon position as it began as a way to discuss the passoid dating issue. Oh well.
I guess it makes sense. Like I said, numbers.
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>>35504747
>“I’m a transwoman dating cis women” usually means that. A John 50 scenario.
if you genuinely believe that you're transphobic as fuck and delusional
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>>35504847
Being ugly isn't a crime
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>>35504531
>shadowboxing with ghosts
>after being called men directly
Cis privilege at work.
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>>35504605
>>35504679
You're so real for this. Don't give up our fight.
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>>35504847
This gen is for both passoids and hons. The c in c4t includes passoids.
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>>35504933
It isn't, but it's also a different life than being passing.
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>>35504963
Ty. I know it’s tough and people don’t get it.
>>35504990
Ha works
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>>35504990
Wait, you mean as a hon I can get a passoid gf here and be c4t but bypass ever having to date an AFAB?
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>>35505060
ofc the ppl starting the drama is not c4t. im pretending to be surprised rn
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>>35505084
I just like pussy okay? I didn't ask for what comes attached to it.
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>>35505099
go to lesgen then, this thread is specifically for c4t
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>>35505060
Yes? Good luck getting a passoid to ever see you as human though, they are even worse than cis women.
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A whole lot of this entire drama is based on the perception that dating is about picking the least awful options out of a sea of miserable partnerships. What happened to finding love?
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>>35505134
>What happened to finding love?
nothing. what happened is that ppl who arent c4t (such as >>35505060) are posting their insecurities here
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>>35505134
>dating is about picking the least awful options out of a sea of miserable partnerships
That is literally what dating is. People who find love don't date because love is spontaneous and free, the complete opposite of the social formality of dating.
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>>35505162
>People who find love don't date because love is spontaneous and free, the complete opposite of the social formality of dating.
Very interesting take. I'll give this one more thought.
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is there a discord and is it as bad as this thread?
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>>35505209
yes there is, no it's nothing like this thread. everyone is chill
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>>35505215
can we join it somehow
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>>35505215
I wouldn't mind joining too if it's more chill. Probably won't post much but who knows.
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t4c here(mtf)

Going on 15 years of marriage with my wife. I’ve been out to her the last 8 years. Our arrangement is that I can “dress” when I go on work trips but otherwise present as a guy and she considers hrt too dangerous so manmoding is out of the question as well. She does occasionally let me wear clear nail polish.

Anyways, I’ve noticed on my trips that guys are checking me out and desu I kinda dig the attention and might want to do more with them.

How should I bring this up with my wife?
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this is like the worst case scenario, get your balls back so you can nuke them
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>>35505824
That's horrible. Living a double life. People living out and proud live free, even though it's difficult to adjust. I don't know how you can handle this mentally. You must have very robust walls built up.
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>>35455470
idk how someone who went from being a super consistent texter to taking like 4 hours between every response expects me to not lose interest lol. i don’t see this continuing 2 weeks from now
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>>35506289
I do that sometimes because I'm doing homework or I'm at work. I dunno please stop being so intense all the time. I mean, I'm intense all the time too.
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>>35506314
today is literally her day off but okay, go ahead and paint me as the bad one for being the one actually putting effort in lmao
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>>35505824
What me and my wife worked out is she can sleep with guys when she's dressed on her trips but she has to be really careful when it comes to things like diseases. Safety first.
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>>35506461
this sounds like the worst relationship ever lmao
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>>35506326
Lmao remember that thread where you kept claiming not to be BPD lol
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>>35506493
How?
Many women would've left when they found out but my wife is fortunate enough to have my support.
But that's not how I look at it. I look at it like I have a gay best friend I'm raising kids with while also keeping everything child appropriate.
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>>35506507
i don’t have bpd. how is expecting an equal, reasonable level of effort out of someone bpd?
>>35506545
you can have a gay best friend and not be married to him, you don’t have to be a cuck
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>>35506567
>omg she didn't message me today she hates me!
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>>35506613
no faggot i didn’t say she hates me. it’s just obvious there’s declining interest if 2 weeks ago she would say sorry for going like 45 minutes without replying and now 4-5 hours between texts is the norm. you don’t know what you’re talking about and you should humbly bow out of this discussion now
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>>35506567
>you don’t have to be a cuck
?
I'm very satisfied sexually in our relationship. She's 6'2" and let's just say her gock is on the large side...

All my female coworkers are always so jealous whenever she drops me off lunch at work
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>>35506567
there is no worse bpd than bpd in denial and I think the girl youre seeing is about to learn why
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>>35506689
no way this isn’t a boomer pretending to be their own cis wife
>>35506716
hello? you were told to humbly bow
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>>35506143
My wife helps me process it a lot emotionally and we go to this one couple’s counselor who specializes in this type of thing and it’s really been helping.

>>35506461
Safety is important. I don’t like condoms but I’ve heard about this thing called PreP.
Do you give her any advice on how to know if a guy is interested or not?
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>>35506749
You're responding to a different anon schizo
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>>35506790
go to bigen. this is not the place to talk about having sex with men
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>>35507775
It’s part of navigating a c4t relationship
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>>35507814
get out troll
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>>35506749
Go clean the black mold in your bathroom
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>>35507954
i don’t have any in mine :)
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>>35507967
Check again :)
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>>35455470
Hey c4tgen! It’s been a blue spring with lots of technicolor highlights so I shouldn’t complain really. Hope you’re all doing as well as you can be <3
>QOTT
Pros
>Romance whimsy goth autistic femme
>Emotionally dependable
>Lots of interests and hobbies
>Out as gay and have experience dating women
>Geeky nerd with esoteric interests
>Can be very funny
>”Mommy dom top switch gf”
>Will fight anyone for you
>Will dress you up and show you off
>Will cook for you and give you all of the cuddles and love you could hope for
Cons
>Very mentally ill
>Can’t sustain you financially
>Very busy normie life
>Need constant reassurance
>Horrible lore
>Inferiority complex lvl 1000000
>tfw cisf incidental chaser

Cons outweigh tbqh

>>35460372
I technically fit under lawful femme. I’ve found that most girls on the thread tend to be soft butch 4 femme which is funny because I’m femme4femme
>>35463134
>>35463336
>>35463097
:((((((
>>35465920
Haven’t you been taught by now that if your partner doesn’t show enthusiastic consent for an act you’d like to perform on her or together that you shouldn’t do it? You emotionally coerced her into receiving a traumatic sexual act to please you. No responsible dom would ever do that so no
>she starts crying pretty quickly but that's normal during impact play ime
this isn’t normal, you didn’t even ease her into the spanking. Look after her and don’t do stuff like this again, spank yourself and learn how to be a proper top/domme before you decide to enact your kinks on the unwilling
>>35473505
Hi!!!
>>35478661
Instagram is for heterosexuals, go be there
>>35479035
Based and c4tpilled
>>35483478
It was me, I did it
>>35487830
:(
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>>35508525
Weighing in to say your presence in this thread is always a delight, and that you definitely put too much emphasis on your cons, chloe
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I feel like humans are willingly going to be enslaved by AI within the next 5 decades
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>>35478661
>>>/tumblr/
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>>35491152
The white girl you’re describing is a straight girl or bicurious at best. Every single white cis sapphic I know is masc to some degree or very queer presenting femmes and they all have poc girlfriends. They also tend to be very liberal/leftist and focus on community and social outreach. They are excluded from cishet whiteness and I think find shelter with women they rapidly learn how to protect from racial injustice and inequality. Homophobia is a given when you’re openly gay

Id be inclined to say that woc x white tw is kino but the truth is I think that it can be tense for both sides depending on the context of how they met and got together. The poc cis girl can be uneducated on trans issues and trans experiences and get defensive towards her gf over pre-conceived notions aka trans misogyny. The same can be said for the white trans gf who participates in racial injustice and misogyny, which I’ve been exposed to a lot. It really just depends, but I’ve found that trans women in general grow to be more empathetic towards our struggles as woc than straight whites women ever do

Suffering unites women in a lot of contexts, knowing we are both seen as inferior women, disposable, killable, forgettable, and only allowed love and empathy if we are found to be fuckable enough to deserve it. We are united in that we are only seen as valuable as the purposes we could serve, and I find shelter with trans women in it

It makes the making out really intense too, yes girl let’s escape or societally imposed meanings and melt into each other instead. We are safe here in each other’s arms, and I will fight for you always. Just be careful who you choose, and grow together in understanding
>>35491231
>tfw me
>>35497142
Cute!!! Talk her up a bit and save money to invite her on a date, if she declines it’s okay!
>>35499136
It’s my awareness week, time to rewatch Ammonite and cry with some red wine and a cigarette >>35505824
Troll, if not leave your wife
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>>35509256
thread is so slow lately chloe...how can we revive it?
also how can we bring more cisf chasers to the thread? it's like 1 cis woman per 10 trans women rn
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>>35510043
Apparently you just need to get some hons in here and cisf chasers will swarm like flies on shit
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I'm a huge hon but I don't girlmode and I'm not like, hot ugly but ugly ugly? if that makes sense
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>>35510066
you're still seething 7 hrs later?
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it appears to be over
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>>35510280
cisf chasers being only into hons has been a meme since before this gen existed. You are not that special lol
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>>35510308
>You are not that special lol
the fuck are you talking about
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>>35510320
I made a joke you fat autistic cheeto man
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What kind of hons are cisf chasers into? Like, square ones? Or angular ones? I want to honmaxx
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>>35508573
You’re so kind to me, tysm <3
>>35510043
Honestly, I think c4tgen could benefit from migration to more normie queer spaces online like reddit, but it would mean sacrificing the more niche experiences from 4chan girls (cis or trans) and isolate girls on both ends depending on their personal ideologies and sensitivities (normie cis girls would grimace at what’s said here lol)

Most of the trans women on /tttt/ are straight and bi with a strong male preference and hate cis women (or only date t4t) and the alleged cis lesbians on here are transphobic, reppers, or racist and misogynistic. The cis sapphics on lesgen seem to be taken as well. I happen to be on here bc of girlfriends as a kida so I, and the other few cis sapphics on c4tgen are truly here as anomalies. This wasn’t a welcoming space for us unless we assimilated and most cis women aren’t autistic and queer as it stands so again, just generally the smallest minority on here. Unless we migrate normie cisf chasers on here somehow idk how to bring in more girls bc I don’t know girls like myself irl either :( and I still haven’t been able to make another cisf friend like myself since the threads started. What do we do girls?
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>>35510326
i'm cisf retard
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>>35510336
sorry you are a cishon
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>>35510335
simple, we clone you
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>>35510066
>Apparently you just need to get some hons in here and cisf chasers will swarm like flies on shit
Usually how it works irl is the hons bring their(usually very attractive) wife to the trans event.
They're also usually poly and you can see the wife on the condition you see the hon.
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>>35510398
Oh yea so we need to encourage the hons here and in mmg to tell their wives to post here. Same effect.

Also this isn't aimed at Chloe. Obviously (a very different type) of cisf are into transgirls as well. But there are a lot more dating hons than anyone else. This is just saying most women are straight and straight women can be kind of annoying
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>>35510305
glad you got that black mold out
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>>35510334
The less chance you have of passing and the more huss effort you put in the better.
Think Jeffrey Starr. That's the ideal.
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>>35510421
real im going back to guys now
goodbye
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>>35510457
going back to being single and mad about it more like
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>>35510335
>migrate normie cisf chasers on here somehow
disaster
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>>35510457
Boysmell wont get the need to be held by your loving wife out of your head Jennie
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>>35510467
rope
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>>35510513
ok but where is the wife at
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It can be built up overtime.
Ignoring true neverpass chad hons (who imo should be considered offtopic rather than encouraged as they're in straight relationships) it's still useful to spread the word.
You meet a cool cisf chaser but it doesn't work out for some reason? She has to move or it just doesn't work out? Tell her about this place.

Meet someone new? Ask them to post on here if they have any questions about dating a trans girl.
Spread the word to the girls you meet. Not all of us meet women but some do and that can add up over time.

Of course it runs the risk of becoming normie and c4hon dominated if it's not kept in check.
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>>35510513
She doesnt care about that she just hates being alone because >crazy
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>>35510514
Sude I will tie you up and leave you in your black mold infested bathtub
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>>35510528
we are social creatures. of course i find being alone unpleasant. i’m normal
>>35510538
that wasn’t my bathtub you saw a picture of
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>>35510551
it's nice to know you are just as unlikable irl as you are in here
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>>35510527
I don’t disagree at all! Tbh though I haven’t seen the phenomenon everyone seems to say they’ve seen of the cute cis gf/wife and the “not passing” gf/wife by tttt standards. These women tend to leave their wives for men or join t4t polycules bevause desu they were straight the whole time just in their egg and repressed. When I’ve seen trans girls in the wild they either have a repper “bf”, a Jake, or another trans girl as their gf. It’s why I have hope of getting more Reddit girls on here or making a subreddit there instead because it’s bigger and attracts normie cis girls who are curious and want to learn more or are ready to start dating before they end up having the “Sorry babe I’m actually straight” talk from their trans gf. Girls that want each other and have that goal from the start so they visit a thread/subreddit where they can get people who want them >>>
>>35510526
You have to find her silly, work on your mental health first!
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>>35510558
rope and cope
>>35510582
if you can’t handle me on my schizophrenic shit you don’t deserve me on my knees
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>>35510603
Stop ideating suicide lmao nobody is going to rope because YOU got broken up with except you
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>>35510623
you should be dissolved into a liquid state faggot
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>>35510629
just close the browser tab and I'm as good as liquidated in your life but if you wanna keep seething be my guest ^^
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>>35510644
clown
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>>35510673
alone
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>>35510582
>It’s why I have hope of getting more Reddit girls on here or making a subreddit there instead because it’s bigger and attracts normie cis girls
Regardless of what happens here it's a good idea to make a subreddit like that.

Imo strict guidelines would be useful to prevent it from becoming another r/actuallesbians. Goal being to make sure it's transitioning trans women and those interested in them.

>“Sorry babe I’m actually straight”
This is really common don't get me wrong. The ones I've seen mostly haven't gotten to that point as they just started hrt or really are a never pass hon who'd find it difficult to attract men how they want.
That and sometimes there is supression by the wife not letting them start hrt/etc. I know this one girl who's been girlmoding 6 years but no hrt for that reason. Sad to see.
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my wants are impossible to meet
need a sugar mommy to date but also help support my shiny things addiction
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>>35510335
>migrate normie cisf chasers
I’m sorry but this is a terrible idea
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>>35501116
I AM RURAL AND I WANT THIS im poor tho youd need to fly me out lol
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does a rich and ambitious t4t transbian couple want me as their cis girl pet to spoil and use? im hot but retarded
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>>35510855
fuck off poly fag
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i hope i will be dead soon i hate so much that i actually have to wake up tomorrow
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>>35510892
mind your own business, hon
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>>35510855
i am not rich sorry
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>>35510898
relax girl
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>>35510892
Poly is great you AIDS ridden BPDemon
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>>35511209
poly gets you aids and you have to give yourself aids with prep according to covid experts
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>>35510855
Does it have to be a couple or would a single rich transbian do
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>>35511283
she’s literally an unabashed whore but thinks she’s superior because she only fucks one person at a time (even though her relationships don’t last more than a week as you can see lol)
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>>35511330
How many bodies?
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>>35511330
poly is whore too but how many relationships? whos she dated recently?
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New thread:
>>35513145
>>35513145
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>>35465920
What did you do? That doesn't sound like normal spanking to me
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This "cis f are only into hons" shit is embarrassing. We get it, you're jealous of hypothetical trans women that you're hypothetically prettier than. Airing out your insecurities is the least attractive thing you can do. Especially in front of women you're trying to leave a good impression on.

I hate to say this, but it might be your personality that's pushing women away. Or maybe you do pass better, but passing does not equal being attractive. There's so many factors at play. Of course it's easier to just blame the chad(hon) again, just like in high school. It's incel behavior.



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