Is being stealth transphobic? I've had people tell me that I'm "pulling up the ladder after me" and that it's problematic to stand by while non-passing trans people get persecuted.
>>35513633You don't look like that THOUGH
>>35513633it's not transphobic, obviously
>>35513633yes. you piece of shit. get good faggot. do better.
>>35513639I don't look like picrel? You're right, I don't, clowns are scary
>>35513633it's not transphobic imo and i plan on stealthing too so i won't be outting myself as a way to support other trans people, but i'll donate money to organizations that help trans people
>>35513633Being called a faggot and being rejected from jobs does not materially improve conditions for trans people
>>35513639you will never breed. your bloodline ends with you. in that way we are more alike than different, sister
>>35513633that’s literally crazy. protect yourself.that being said if you have the privilege of being out, being attractive and likeable is like the number one way to improve every nearby cis person’s perception of all trans people.
>>35513633Lol no their is no reason if we are fortunate enough to pass that we have to out ourselves and put up with people's bigotry. It's not transphobic to want to not experience transphobia that's like saying boymoder s are transphobic if they don't socially transition the day they get their hrt or something.But yeah it's awkward when people are openly transphobic around me I don't want to say to much and risk outing myself but I also don't want people spreading misinformation unchallenged.
>>35513765She never did miss
>>35513633Being stealth is being a scizophrenic sociopath that gaslights every person they meet. I will always be proudly openly trans and stealthers DISGUST me.
>>35513781>a scizophrenic sociopath that gaslights every person they meetLiterally me.
>>35513780... Yeah. To deflect the suspicion I kind of just let people make shitty jokes without saying anything. But if they start actually spreading misinformation, like when my prof said they were giving SRS to middle schoolers I had to call them out and explain my "friends" experience. Because honestly the misinfo is dangerous for us instead of simply meanspirited. And of course just gendering trans people irl correctly.>>35513781Fetishist scum.Tho you aren't 100% wrong I have so many tweaked and fictional stories about my life before I went stealth it's kind of funny. I even started to gaslight myself with them. Or having a brother who moved away now to people who sort of knew me pre trans
For me, this is a more complicated issue than “Is it transphobic” and should you feel bad or not, should you do this or not. What other people are saying you should be doing, which is to be open about being transgender, is more dangerous for some than others. And it takes a psychological toll. It’s not something everyone has the strength to endure. You don’t necessarily have the power to open doors for other trans people. Being stealth comes with a certain level of danger and discomfort for you too. Your acceptance, your safety, depends on your ability to keep the secret of your transgender status. I’ve heard other stealth posters here talk about how cis people feel comfortable telling them that they hate trans people. And I’m sure you know you can get into situations like that. I don’t think you have it easier than me per se, you just have different challenges.
>>35513826>Fetishist scumI simply am what I am and present my whole self to the world instead of living in a cocoon of delusion.
>>35513849I'm stealth and yeah, I've had cis people complain to me about how much they hate trans people and expect me to agree with them.
>>35513849Mood I'm currently in a research internship and one of the profs just openly spread transphobic conspiracy nonsense and the other regularly makes conservative good liberals stupid type jokes.They currently have a high opinion of me because I am smart but I def realize that if someone from my old life was also at this college and outed me then they'd probably hate me.
IDK. But knowing a trans girl helped me a lot. Knowing a girl who was a normal person, not sexual, had masculine and feminine hobbies, as good as me in Super Smash Bros (this is so small but it's a bonding moment and I thought she was badass). That made me realize I could transition
>>35513633Literally the whole point of transition is to be able to be normal and move on with your life. Anyone who says it isn’t is not transsexual and does not suffer from gender/sex dysphoria.
>>35513900This.I never knew of a single trans person existing that wasn't just a porn star or Bruce(65) until I discovered Laura Les when the Money Machine video was a meme and realized that young people with lives other than being sex slaves can choose to do it too.
>>35513633no, jelly hons just love calling everything they can't do transphobic, even just passing is transphobic to them.
>>35513877being out is a privilege. a lot of trans women stay stealth to protect their physical safety. it’s wonderful that you don’t have to do that.
>>35513968Interestingly being stealth is also a privilege because not everyone has the genes to pass enough for stealth
It is kind of weird being a post transition stealthoid and having trans people in your class and mentally you see yourself as part of the trans group but mentally they see you as some random foid.
>>35513849>I’ve heard other stealth posters here talk about how cis people feel comfortable telling them that they hate trans people.If someone is bringing up this topic within earshot of you or directly to you, it's because they know. Obviously. Regular people never just randomly think of "trans".
>>35513992Friend you're on the tranny board, subsections of people care enough to spend their free time on forums complaining about us
>>35513992They do. Normies don’t stfu about trannies
>>35513992regular people aren’t pathologically obsesssed with trans people. insane people absolutely will start complaining about trannies to whoever is in front of them at the supermarket checkout line
>>35513992>>35514003Oh also also in my experience it's happened because of it branches off from a general conversation that goes like>did you hear about thing in the news>gender stuff/politics talk>tranniesOr because I had a trans coworker and when their name got brought up, someone would test the waters and say something
>>35513992I stopped hanging out with one of my friends because before I even transitioned, when it was just a bunch of "cis" guys hanging out and playing video games the fucker would just start completely unprompted just going on rants about how much he hates trannies and wishes the number was higher than 41%Trannies literally live rent free in peoples' heads these days.
>>35514040see >>35514012>>35514032it’s also a common impulse response to the sight of a cis woman with cropped hair
>>35513639you are my favourite poster atm
>>35513982It feels lonely and judgemental. Please pass them a note and let them know they're not alone
>>35514249Being stealth definitely is kind of isolating
>>35514274you wouldn't know it from the number of people on /tttt/ claiming to be stealth passoids
>>35514283Being able to talk to people online doesn't alleviate the irl feeling
>>35514315you should all plan a meet-up. put up a sign, "stealth trans women meet-up," so they know they're in the right place and not just surrounded by cis women
>implying you care about being transphobic>implying you dont shit on hons all the time>implying this question is in good faith
>>35514315This the only reason I go to this shit hole board after being post everything is that I have no one irl who gets it when trans stuff crosses my mind for whatever reason.
>>35514449Real and true I relate
>>35513992I'm a cis man and boomers have just started ranting about tranners at me unprompted, just a complete non sequitur unrelated to any conversation or topic at hand.You don't understand the depravity of trans derangement syndrome, once it gets ahold of a boomer it's basically all they think about.
>>35513633The crabs in the bucket will call anything transphobic lmao. don't let them drag you down into the hairy transbian pit. You aren't obliged to associate yourself with the dregs who don't know how to built their own ladders but expect to use the one you made
>>35516783We will continue to wreck trans optics and make things worse until the government is allowed to pull your medical records to see that you're trans and send you to the gas chamber until you provide us with good passing trans role models to look up to. Because young trans women see the hairy transbians being supportive and accepting and will join them and make more deranged hairy transbians to continue to destroy trans optics to the public and you WILL be collateral damage, even though you really could stop this from happening at any time.
>>35513826I was hanging out with some neighbors and a guy with boobs and no shirt walked by us and one of them was like "that must be a transgender" even though he was obviously just fat then they started talking about how dylan mulvaney was destroying bud light. It's amazing what they'll believe, and I'm just sitting there in a fucking bikini with nobody suspecting a bit knowing full well if I say something I'll be ostracized so I don't
>>35513781surely zoomie will never regret her decision
>>35516962Yeah I don't know why I would, the local theyfabs basically treat me like a queen for my stunning bravery.
>>35516818Yeah on one hand I see how being a semi well adjusted passoid person and openly trans. Helps the optics but also being openly trans sucks a lot and I'm kind of traumatized from being openly trans in highschool and don't want everyone to hate me again.
