>>41996457
Hubby material

>>41996457
>what do transwomen think of themselves

>>41996478
And yet you pay no attention to me and don't consider me as a romantic partner... Curious!

>>41996490
This. You should see an escort or troon out yourself if this is you OP.

They scare me.

>>41996501
I am 100% man. Not a single womanly bone in my body.

>>41996457
I mean usually there is a reason for that, right?
like maybe a repper or someone that has other issues or w/e

>>41996535
>I mean usually there is a reason for that, right?
I simply went through 30 entire years, three whole decades of life, without any woman having ever expressed romantic interest in me.

It's not exactly my fault.

>>41996543
yeh, but I'm kind of biased, and thinking about how like ppl w/ dementia will also relate their version of events like they have no issues

>>41996562
I don't really get what you mean by that.

>>41996509
You should at least start blockers though. Sexual desire was pure hell as an autistic incel.

>>41996576
I don't want to be a woman though?

I just wish women would consider me as a potential romantic option. It's sad as hell going through 30 years of life being ignored by every single girl, while men who are objectively less attractive than me get girlfriends without even trying.

>>41996457
I love them, but that's just me.

>>41996589
Do you love me, though?

I bet you would be disgusted by me and would pay me no attention if you knew me.

>>41996566
just that it seems similar to how someone that is healthy would usually have some introspection, and someone that is dying from neurodegenerative disease might not realize it and blame others ig

>>41996633
Almost certainly. I'm afraid of everything IRL and would be deliberately polite assuming you want nothing to do with me.
Also I'm ugly and mannish so you would actually want nothing to do with me.

>>41996585
It won't make you a woman it will just make you lose interest in them.

>>41996640
Still don't get it.

>>41996648
>Almost certainly. I'm afraid of everything IRL and would be deliberately polite assuming you want nothing to do with me.
If you did that I would assume that you hate me.

>>41996674
Why would I want to lose interest in women? They are objectively the most beautiful and admirable gender. Males are utterly repulsive by comparison.

Well that depends, OP, on why the person in question is a khv. As someone who, themselves, lacks relationship experience, I obviously can't judge a man for being inexperienced. Some people are just different, and find it hard to connect with others, and that's okay. However a lot of khv guys are self identified incels, can't hold down a job, can't dress or adequately bathe themselves, have major issues with their personalities that make them toxic to be around, I could go on.

If you're just a person who, for a benign reason or another, struggles to find romantic partners but are a good person and look alright then idk, I think I'm fine with them. I might even connect more easily to someone like that, because we're both kind of "outsiders," than I would to a gigachad. Context is important.

>>41996640
>everyone who has a happy life with good things happening to them is properly introspective and everyone who does not have a good life is delusional and just looking for someone to blame
Holy demented survivorship bias.

>>41996774
Because you're never going to get one.

>>41996775
I'm a kissless dateless handholdless virgin because, throughout my whole life, women simply never expressed romantic interest in me.

I have had plenty of female friends. And plenty of friendly acquaintances who were women. But none of them ever considered me as a viable romantic option. They just looked straight through me and lusted after other men instead.

It's not my fault. I did nothing wrong.

>>41996775
>can't hold down a job
A valid reason
>can't dress or adequately bathe themselves
This claim is patronising to incels
>major issues with their personalities that make them toxic to be around
It's probably true but a lot of men are assholes yet have no problem getting laid.

>>41996809
I would question the belief that you have done NOTHING wrong when it comes to finding a relationship. Everyone makes mistakes. But, yeah, there are plenty of good guys who for some reason or another just... can't seem to date. I'm sorry you're struggling, this clearly causes you a lot of pain. It's not just you, rates of sex are plummeting for a variety of socioeconomic factors, so you're not alone in... being alone, if that makes any sense.

>>41996836
>I would question the belief that you have done NOTHING wrong when it comes to finding a relationship.
I mean, I literally didn't do anything wrong though. If anything, I put a hell of a lot more effort in than 90% of men do.

I've known guys who were absolute slobs and still got girlfriends without even trying. Fat guys who dressed in ugly rags, smelt of BO 24/7, and weren't particularly charismatic, and yet still somehow magically got GFs. I've even known men who were significantly more autistic than me, to the point of being arguably mentally disabled, and they still got GFs. What do they have that I don't?

>It's not just you, rates of sex are plummeting for a variety of socioeconomic factors, so you're not alone
No, I am alone. I don't feel any kinship whatsoever with any other man who calls himself an "incel" or whatever other term like that. I am the one and only true kissless dateless virgin. The others are simply fucking pathetic.

>>41996836
Why are normies incapable of understanding the concept of khhv?

>>41996818
>This claim is patronising to incels
I disagree, the amount of guys you see out there who look like trolls that would look alright if they just took a little interest in fashion and grooming... It's a lot, anon.

>It's probably true but a lot of men are assholes yet have no problem getting laid.
Ok, yes, true. But I've also been around guys that are just repellent because they have no idea how to socialize. I guess that's what I meant.

>>41996879
I AM one, believe me, I get it. I just think guys also do a lot to make themselves unattractive to women.

>>41996879
Why are you acting like YOU understand the concept of kissless dateless handholdless virginity either?

Your life is nothing like mine. You don't get to claim any kinship with me. I am the one and only true KDHV.

>>41996729
I only hate Jews and people who don't hate Jews.

>>41996890
>the amount of guys you see out there who look like trolls that would look alright if they just took a little interest in fashion and grooming
The depressing thing is I have known literally dozens upon dozens of these men, and literally all of them got girlfriends without even trying.

Meanwhile I have always put huge effort into my appearance, my fashion, my fitness, and my hygiene, and have received zero romantic interest from women in my entire life.

Why?

>>41996904
I've studied ER's manifesto. I'm more wizard than you.
>>41996902
Could you please explain what this is? Because every KHV who follows the normie advice to lift, dress well and "put yourself out there" gets nowhere. it's almost as if it's bullshit victim blaming.

>>41996868
>What do they have that I don't?
I've honestly had the exact same thought. Recently I had a crush on a married coworker, I'm bi, and she ended up inviting me for dinner at her place. I knew there was nothing between us and was genuinely just going for friendly purposes because I was going through a hard time and wanted to take my mind off things.

Anyway, I met her husband and got genuinely fucked up afterwards because I was hit by the realization that he was just... some guy. She was way out of his league, and married a guy who was kind of a schlub and bad at conversation. My only conclusion was that some people have "it" and I, evidently, don't. From what I can see dating and sex is totally irrational on some level. Some people seem to just draw the short straw, it sucks.

But I try to be hopeful anyways.

>>41996952
>I've studied ER's manifesto. I'm more wizard than you.
Elliott Rodger was a cunt. He had interest from multiple women and blew them off for some unknown reason. He was a pompous rich imbecile who decided to have a violent sperg-out for practically no reason. I do not identify with him.

>>41996952
>Could you please explain what this is?
Since being on HRT for a couple years I sometimes get hit on and the number one reason I don't reciprocate is that the guys who hit on me are really creepy. A lot of it is that their approaches are awful, they will stare and stare before making a move and then when they do it's something awful like touching me without saying a word, or just saying "hey, you're pretty" which is not a conversation starter.

When I get attracted to guys they come over and strike up a conversation. They have something to talk about, without just complimenting my looks or telling me to smile. They have an easygoing demeanor and smile, it's a nice comfy back and forth, and they're confident. NGL it also helps if they're tall and in shape. Never said I couldn't be shallow, though I've also been attracted to short guys. Above all I feel safe talking to them, which is genuinely something rare when random guys start talking to me.

>>41997044
>I sometimes get hit on and the number one reason I don't reciprocate is that the guys who hit on me are really creepy. A lot of it is that their approaches are awful, they will stare and stare before making a move and then when they do it's something awful like touching me without saying a word, or just saying "hey, you're pretty" which is not a conversation starter.
I (OP) don't do this.

I just quietly pine after women and admire them silently from afar. I don't even try to look at them because I'm terrified of them thinking I'm a pervert.

I just sit there and hope that they take interest me and approach me. Better than approaching them myself, and getting accused of being a violent giga-rapist or something.

>>41996957
This was the story of my life until I transitioned. Now it gets even more frustrating; I pass and have been told I am pretty yet I still don't really have any friends. I date men because that's easy and doesn't really count but it still gets to me when they start talking about their past relationships like it's nothing. To me the concept of a woman finding an average man attractive is totally incomprehensible.

>>41997098
>To me the concept of a woman finding an average man attractive is totally incomprehensible.
And yet it happens 24/7. In fact, the majority of male x female relationships feature a man who is significantly BELOW average.

You see how things are so frustrating for me, right? I put in immense effort and yet have never, ever had any woman express romantic interest in me. But men who put zero effort in get everything. Why?

>>41997002
>He had interest from multiple women
Citation needed
>>41997044
I get approached by a lot of creeps as well. problem is none of them actually give off incel vibes. Somehow their creepiness seems to work at getting them laid. Ironically the few men I've met that did give off incel vibes, they were very polite and respectful.

Dan drapper: "I don't think of you at all."

>>41997106
Interestingly I have noticed that I seem to do better at making friends when I stop trying. it's a bit annoying desu, I decide to go full blackpill hermit and then suddenly random neighbours start inviting me to this and that. Social interaction is legit more confusing than quantum mechanics.

>>41997090
>I just quietly pine after women and admire them silently from afar.
See this is probably a big reason for why you aren't getting results, OP. I want to be pursued, not in a creepy stalker way, but I don't want to be the one to make a move. I'm quite progressive, but I want to be the woman in a relationship and I want a man to take the lead (something something Blanchard). Most women, I think, are like this. How are women supposed to know you're interested if you never signal interest? How are you supposed to get a relationship if you never try to get one?

It is not perverse to romantically or sexually desire someone, that's fine! Just go about it in a respectful way. Women want to have sex, they want to be desired, it is not a crime to shoot your shot. You just have to accept the risk of getting shot down, and remember to respect her boundaries.

>>41997116
>I get approached by a lot of creeps as well.
The creeps that approach me all tend to be boomers. That might be because of where I live, idk. Rural.

And if I start making an effort with these people they go back to ignoring me wtf. Literally happened to me last month. Joined some LGBT group, had zero intention of making any friends, just went there to kill time. One guy asks for my number and invites me to coffee a few times. Decide to stop ignoring him and meet up, all of a sudden he's always too busy to meet...

>>41997175
>I want to be pursued, not in a creepy stalker way, but I don't want to be the one to make a move. I'm quite progressive, but I want to be the woman in a relationship and I want a man to take the lead
I can't do it, though. I just can't. The consequences for failure are simply far too great.

>How are women supposed to know you're interested if you never signal interest? How are you supposed to get a relationship if you never try to get one?
How am I supposed to pursue a woman if I don't know she's interested in me? The consequences of failure are that I face total social humiliation and ruination, and potentially destroy my entire life. How am I supposed to risk that? It's simply too much.

>It is not perverse to romantically or sexually desire someone, that's fine! Just go about it in a respectful way.
For the average man? No, it isn't. But for me? Yes, it absolutely is.

You just don't get it. The rules for me aren't the same as they are for everybody else. When other people do things, and they have an awkward moment, it gets brushed off and nobody cares. But when I do something awkward? It's fucking calamity, people laugh endlessly, people mock me, people ostracize me, people look at me like I'm a leper, and my entire life is ruined. This has been my story since the day I was born.

>>41997175
This is fembrained bullshit. A woman either finds you attractive or they don't.
>Women want to have sex
Lol, lmao even.

>>41997207
>How am I supposed to pursue a woman if I don't know she's interested in me? The consequences of failure are that I face total social humiliation and ruination, and potentially destroy my entire life. How am I supposed to risk that? It's simply too much.
this is what a normal teenager gets over when he becomes a man, you need to risk something to gain something, if you really think women are supposed to court you like thats some normal thing instead of you taking initiative you simply have no idea what your role even is in a relationship, you may also be gay.

>>41997226
>this is what a normal teenager gets over when he becomes a man, you need to risk something to gain something,
But no other man in the entire world has to risk as much as I do.

Every other man, when they approach a woman and get rejected, just moves on with their life without any consequences. Nothing bad happens to them.

But if I did that? My life would be fucking nuked. My social reputation would be destroyed. Everybody would think of me as a creep and a pervert.

Why should I be expected to put my life on the line, when literally no other man in the entire world has to do that?

>>41996457
The thing is that you made the thread so it has already become a self fulfilling prophecy. Like always people will defend this and day it's everyone else at fault. But that is never going to solve your problem. The worst part is that when given the choice between you that makes threads like these and you that doesn't, everyone is going to pick you that doesn't. Doesn't matter what they say or home much they try to prove a point. Once you start debating strangers why they should date you or why there is no reason not to, then you're fucked. At best you will get a discord tranny that wastes your time for a few months.

>>41997248
>At best you will get a discord tranny that wastes your time for a few months.
I won't even get that. Not a single woman in the world has ever been attracted to me. I don't think even a smelly, unwashed hobo girl off of the streets would date me. I'm just universally repulsive to all women, for some unknown and arcane reason.

>>41997207
I think you've spent too much time in incel spaces where they spread the whole "men's lives will be ruined for just asking someone out!" narrative. Destroy your entire life? By asking a woman if she wants to get coffee sometime, really?

>How am I supposed to pursue a woman if I don't know she's interested in me?
Learn how to tell when a woman is interested? You can just say you enjoy talking to someone and ask for their number. If she says yes, she is probably into you. Women are not some scary harpies out to ruin your life, if she is not interested she will just move on with life. Nobody cares about you enough to ruin your life over it.

>>41997226
>if you really think women are supposed to court you like thats some normal thing instead of you taking initiative you simply have no idea what your role even is in a relationship

Sorry, gonna have to agree : /
I want to be swept off my feet to a degree. If I wanted to be the one initiating and leading the relationship I would have stayed a man and dated women.

As a former incel who is now passing and pretty my experience of men approaching me is that I've already decided whether I want to date or have sex with them or not before they've even approached me. What they say or do afterwards is of little relevance.

>>41997262
That anon seemed dramatic but if it's a woman you know let's say mutual friends or work it becomes awkward as shit if she says no.

>>41997262
>I think you've spent too much time in incel spaces
I have spent literally 0 time in incel spaces.

I despise incels. I don't want anything to do with them. I don't relate to them. When I meet another man who claims to be a "kissless virgin", I view him with extreme suspicion. No way he has lived a life as brutal and unfair as I have, so who the fuck does he think he is trying to claim the same pain as me?

>Destroy your entire life? By asking a woman if she wants to get coffee sometime, really?
Yes, absolutely. It's not "because I'm a man". It's because I'm me. Women hate me. This world hates me. Me specifically. And only me.

>You can just say you enjoy talking to someone and ask for their number. If she says yes, she is probably into you.
I just can't do that. The thought of asking a woman for her number fills me with terrifying, horror-movie style dread. I couldn't even begin to spit the words out of my mouth to ask for that. I just couldn't. Not under any circumstances. Not ever.

>I want to be swept off my feet to a degree.
And yet, if I ever tried to "sweep you off your feet", you would be repulsed by me and would view me as a pervert.

>>41997263
I... really don't want to agree with this, but... Yeah, I do find myself putting men in the "unfuckable" box in a split second judgement. Just kind of happens. Don't men do this too, though?

>>41997283
It definitely can be, that's where having good communication skills comes into play. Admittedly OP may not have those skills. I've tried to date a couple coworkers and while it didn't work out it also ended up being fine. Not awkward. They're still friends.

>>41997258
It's not all unknown. Threads like this are repulsive too so you have something to put on the list of reasons.

>>41997263
>my experience of men approaching me is that I've already decided whether I want to date or have sex with them or not before they've even approached me
And my experience, as me, a man, is that 100% of women seem to sort me into the "undateable" box as soon as they meet me for the first time.

Meanwhile, those same men will date all sorts of horrible men. Ugly men, short men, fat men, violently autistic men, depressive men, smelly men, and so on. But never me. It's just bizarre. It's like I was cursed at birth by some malevolent god to be forever repulsive to all women.

I wish I could get love as a subpar loser

>>41997316
>Women all magically know you made embarrassing posts on 4chan.org even though you never revealed your name, face or identity in those posts
Laughable. Absolutely fucking laughable and embarrassing bullshit.

>>41997293
>Women hate me. This world hates me. Me specifically. And only me.
I don't hate you OP, why would I? I think you really over exaggerate how much others dislike you, and I'm sure you have that cognitive bias due to a whole bunch of shitty life experiences that taught you that narrative about yourself, and I'm sorry you have to go through that.

>And yet, if I ever tried to "sweep you off your feet", you would be repulsed by me and would view me as a pervert.
Would I? How do you know? Have you tried? I don't currently view you as a pervert. The only thing "repulsing" me right now is that you have a total victim mentality, which is not sexy. Not that I find you repulsive, but it isn't appealing.

>>41997339
>Would I? How do you know? Have you tried?
Why would I ever try when failure is 110% certain?

I am significantly less socially awkward than OP seems to be and one of the girls I flirted with, in an extremely light and heartfelt way mind you, went on to tell everyone in our mutual friend group I was stalking her. OP is hysteric but the insistence that there are no repercussions to trying to show interest in a girl that doesn't reciprocate is genuinely just delusional.

>>41997306
> I do find myself putting men in the "unfuckable" box in a split second judgement. Just kind of happens. Don't men do this too, though?
I tried basically every dating app and swiped way more than people typically do. It was rarely how a woman looked that decided if I was interested in them, but her personality and interests. I'm a bit of an outlier in that last part, but most studies indicate guys rate women across the board much higher than women rate men. The big thing, imo, is that womens taste in men is often linked to the specific role the guy plays for her, which can ONLY be assessed through consistent interactions, but modern day dating practices make everyone expect a million things right out the gate and give people 0 time to actually attempt to know the person.

>>41997335
And the Darwin award goes to you. Yes, the things you do all somehow magically and mysteriously impact your real life, like saving and reloading isn't real. Get fucked hard by reality at least.

>>41997306
>Don't men do this too, though?
Are you not MtF also? The answer is yes but like 95% of women get put in the fuckable box anyway.

My other experience as a pretty passer is that most men are what you'd call creeps. If a guy is interested in me he will get leery and handsy pretty fast. And as I said earlier I already decided whether I like him or not. So in reality incels are probably not creepy enough. Way back when I was still a closeted crossdresser and still trying to get a gf I decided to copy what the men I met did to me at a party. The first girl who started talking to me I put my arm around her. Voila, it was the only time in my life that I almost got laid (invited me to her bed but we didn't have sex)

>>41997381
> Way back when I was still a closeted crossdresser and still trying to get a gf I decided to copy what the men I met did to me at a party. The first girl who started talking to me I put my arm around her. Voila, it was the only time in my life that I almost got laid (invited me to her bed but we didn't have sex)
As a regular cis guy one of the first women to show genuine interest in me told me explicitly that if I had been more woke (which I had previously been and I happened to meet her in a very deep bout of bitterness) she would've gotten 'the ick' and had 0 interest in me. Making advances as a man is explicitly just flipping a coin and finding out if your 'confidence' gets you labeled a creep and socially outcast or if it gets you laid near instantly.

>>41997344
Charming OP. I'm swooning already. If you decide that failure is certain and then, as a result, don't take action, then obviously you won't get a partner.

>>41997352
Definitely there are some bad actors out there, but also, by the nature of this conversation I can only hear your side of the story on this, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt too. I've actually known a woman, ex-friend of mine, who totally made this innocent mutual friend out to be a creep because he respectfully expressed interest in her, I know it happens. But OP cannot let themselves be totally paralyzed by fear if they want to get anywhere. You could get hit by a bus next time you go outside, but you still go outside, yes?

Agree with you on apps being hell, I don't use them, and if I do, I want to take things off the app as soon as possible. They're just totally dehumanizing. Women drown in creepy behavior and men get nothing. I was once a man on Tinder, went through hundreds of profiles, I think I got one match that wasn't a bot and she ghosted after we set up the first date.

>>41997381
Yeah I am MTF, sorry if that was not clear. I would like to think I'm pretty generous with my standards regardless of sex, but I'm also pretty lonely, so maybe that's why.

Your example of putting your arm around someone you just met would genuinely freak me out if I were said girl, but then I've always been reluctant when it comes to physical touch, maybe I'm an exception. Really need to know the person first.

>>41997381
>Way back when I was still a closeted crossdresser and still trying to get a gf I decided to copy what the men I met did to me at a party. The first girl who started talking to me I put my arm around her. Voila, it was the only time in my life that I almost got laid (invited me to her bed but we didn't have sex)
Just crazy. A literal cross dresser gets to have more successful romantic experiences with women than I do, and they do it by simply employing pervert rapist tactics, and somehow getting away with it.

If you ever wanted an illustration of how unfairly persecuted I am in my life, this is it. I get 0 romantic interest from any women in my life for no reason, meanwhile closeted-trans cross dressers get girls while acting like lecherous creeps.

>>41997405
>If you decide that failure is certain and then, as a result, don't take action, then obviously you won't get a partner.
But even when I DONT decide failure is certain, I still don’t get a partner.

Women just don’t like me no matter what I do. I’ve tried every single strategy possible. You just don’t like me.

>>41997405
>But OP cannot let themselves be totally paralyzed by fear if they want to get anywhere. You could get hit by a bus next time you go outside, but you still go outside, yes?
Having had these convos a ton I've found that a big reason there's such a division of opinion is where people actually live. I'm in the midwest US and people are very much expect everyone to keep to themselves, it's often compared to how north eastern european countries are with socialization. Meanwhile someone from Colorado who visited complained multiple times around me about it and how no one is like that where they're from. Shit can change real quick state to state, even city to city, and I'm sure it's much the same outside the US. If the chances of getting hit by a bus were high enough, yeah, people absolutely wouldn't go outside. I mean, I've done everything I can to avoid having to get my license because I don't wanna have to pay out the ass for other peoples bad driving.

>>41997433
>I’ve tried every single strategy possible. You just don’t like me.
Ok. What do you expect me to say to that? I'm genuinely sympathetic to your situation, loneliness sucks, feeling unwanted sucks, but you reject all advice. This feels more like a thread about you venting. Which is fine ig, but, like, don't pretend you actually want advice rn.

>>41997446
What advice is there for me to implement? Genuinely. Give me some advice. Give me very specific things I can do to rectify my situation. I promise you that, if they are realistic, I will act on them.

>>41997445
Rural, NW US, if it matters.

>>41997453
How specific is "very specific?"

>tfw ranting about incel life on 4chan
>look in mirror and look like laverne cox
it's a weird feel, sometimes i forget i'm not a neckbeard anymore. It's nothing to do with how you look, it's an energy. Anyway the other incel issue is simply never meeting women. Now even normies struggle with this. If you're wondering why I never continued copying my chasers by putting my arm around every woman I met until i got laid it was because I simply never met any more. After falling out with the university crowd the party invites dried up. Clubs were bullshit, just couples and women there for attention. Hobbies all full of men.

>>41997433
Bro, I used to browse wizardchan. That party incident was a crazy fluke. I still think of it to this day. It was probably because I'm black. Some white girls have a BBC fetish and will just laser onto the one black guy in the room. of course when they found out I'm a sperg they lost interest. I only got that far that day because I said fuck it and just acted like a creepy chaser.

>>41997453
Just take the blackpill. You are 30 years old. it's beyond over.

>>41997477
Yeah, you can stop talking right now if you’re going to randomly bring up cuckshit. Don’t respond to me anymore, peasant.

>>41997500
Maybe posts like this are indicative of why you can't get laid...

>>41997456
If it's W enough to be considered 'west coast' that'd definitely explain it, and I think Mormon country would probably not be too different in terms of how socially open people are. I can only guess though, I'm not nearly well traveled enough to be able to be definitive for all places.

>>41997467
>I simply never met any more.
>Hobbies all full of men.
This is where I'm at. My overall situation is horrifically fucked but the reason I feel I have no hope even though I could probably dig myself out of a lot of things is there's nothing waiting for me at the end of it. Women interested in my hobbies are extremely rare, and because of that most of them feel they can't publicly interact with the hobbies or else they'll get creeped on, and even online will do everything to hide their gender for the same reasons. I've known exactly what I want since I even started considering having a relationship in highschool and the average age of the type of girls I'm into has gone from being a bit older than me to a good chunk younger and it's only going to get worse the older I get.

>>41997477
>Some white girls have a BBC fetish and will just laser onto the one black guy in the room. of course when they found out I'm a sperg they lost interest.
Both of these are absolutely real and I've seen em both happen in real time.

>>41997508
How so? It’s normal to be repulsed by cuckolds.

>>41997500
It's not a cuck fantasy lol

>>41997510
My neck of the woods is very into two things: Mormonism and meth.

>>41997516
When did that anon mention cuckoldry? You seem antisocial and kind of hostile.

>>41997517
It literally is. We were having a normal conversation and you brought up racial cuckoldry out of nowhere.

How would you feel if I brought up the opposite? One of my female friends in school/college was a black girl who used to openly talk about how she found all black men unattractive, and would exclusively date hipster white guys. Doesn’t feel so nice, does it?

>>41997537
OP... wtf are you talking about?

>>41997540
I’m saying don’t start randomly bragging about how you’re “racially superior” or some retarded shit in a random moment in a conversation that has nothing to do with that.

You do that shit IRL, and you’re getting a fist whacked so hard round your face you’ll have a broken jaw for the next few months.

>>41997537
Idk dude, I am just sharing my experiences.

>>41997558
No you aren’t. You’re trying to insult me. You’re a racist. I could say a million extremely offensive things about you right now, but I won’t because I’m bigger than that. You need to grow the fuck up right now and stop acting like you’re on /pol/ or /b/. That kind of racebaiting bullshit doesn’t fly in the real world. Sooner or later somebody’s going to snap your fucking neck over that.

>>41997549
I'm not that anon, I'm this one.
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>>41997477
Was talking about being objectified by weird race fetishists, that absolute do exist and objectify black people, which is wrong. She was not trying to talk about being "racially superior."

Also cool, threatening a woman by saying you're gonna break her jaw, now I REALLY want to fuck you.

>>41997579
Yes, race fetishists do exist. There are black women and Hispanic women and Asian women who also lust after white men and view their own race’s men as ugly. Now how would you feel if I randomly brought that shit up out of nowhere?

>Also cool, threatening a woman by saying you're gonna break her jaw
I don’t know of any woman who randomly comes out of nowhere bragging about her “big black dick” and how white women allegedly love it.

That’s some fucking pathetic racebaiting /pol/shit and absolutely needs to be stamped the fuck out.

>>41997596
They weren't "bragging," read what she said. She was describing a fetish that some people have, a stereotype about black guys that people imposed on her pre transition regardless of what she wanted. It was contextually relevant to her reply imo.

>>41997611
They literally said they attracted women because they were black.

That’s racial narcissism. This is a person who clearly believes they are sexually superior because of some melanin in their skin.

And in the context of the fact that we are on 4chan, where cuckshit is disgustingly prevalent and racebait is a common form of trolling, it’s absolutely unacceptable.

This has repulsed me so much I’m about ready to quit this fucking dogshit website. I’m not going to tolerate racists trying to humiliate me in what was supposed to be a conversation about a common human experience.

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>>41996457
I'm a 23-year-old 5'6 incel. I like browsing here since sometimes I will read posts that resonate with me, but it feels like even 4chan has been overwhelmed with normalheteros now, I hardly even relate to most threads on r9k. Most people here have friends, actively date, and there seem to be a lot of anons with productive careers too. I'm a loser compared to 4channers even, it's hard not to get resentful sometimes, but really, I just got unlucky. Honestly, though, maybe it's sour grapes, but I don't really think pursuing a relationship is worth it in the current year. I mean, even if you do find a woman/guy to love, what comes next? Kids are pretty much off the table financially anyway, not like it's logical to have kids if you're working class, regardless. All I really want from life at this point is peace and security. Work my little job, get paid, and spend my time reading, watching TV, or browsing here. More and more people are taking this path anyway, so it's not a significant issue.

>>41997611
I find it weird that they are accusing me of making it up or bragging when I was an autistic incel pre-transition. I mean if it happened to even me then it's definitely a real thing. It happened to me at least three times. White girl at a party out of nowhere latches on to me. Even as a desperate incel I didn't really like it, as you said I felt objectified.

>>41997635
Quit the website then, I could care less. If you don't think black people attract certain people just because they're black, you're delusional. It isn't as flattering an experience as you seem to think it is. Now I'm not black, maybe the anon in question can correct me if I say anything out of line, but I do know what it's like to be objectified for being trans. If I wanted to get fucked I could hop on Grindr and have a chaser blow my back out within a couple hours. Because I'm trans, and that means that certain guys will fetishize me for that. But that is absolutely NOT me bragging, because it's not a nice feeling to be a fetish object. Those chasers don't see me as a person, as a woman, as an equal partner, they would see me merely as a sex object. It actually feels dehumanizing and awful. She was not bragging, being fetishized is not fun, or a ticket to healthy relationships. If you think it is, that only speaks to your own ignorance.

>>41997663
You’re a disgusting racist trying to disguise your racial narcissism as humblebragging.

Shut the actual fuck up and stop talking, you piece of utter human waste.

>>41997667
I like how this post started with "woe is me, I'm such an innocent victim and women hate me even if I don't do anything wrong," and it has ended with you going on an unhinged rant that makes you look insane and ignorant.

>>41997635
I don't know why you think cuckoldry is pro-black. We find it pretty demeaning desu (being called a "bull", seriously?) Nobody except /pol/ enjoys this

>>41997664
Yep thank you for understanding. I'm gonna go now, that other anon has gone crazy. Take care.

>>41997689
You too anon! <3

>>41997680
Why should I tolerate people who are being blatantly racist and arrogant towards me?

This thread was totally civil and normal until Little Miss Wakanda decided to start randomly bringing up how the white women were apparently all lusting after her “BBC” (read: totally average melanated penis) however many years ago.

I thought this board was kind, but you’re a bunch of scumcunts just like /pol/ or /b/. Go fuck yourselves. And seek treatment immediately for your severe and debilitating porn addictions, you perverts.

>>41996495
Do you put yourself out there to be husband material, I need to know that you have some drive to look for more

>>41997680
I'm just looking at the OP post of the cute anime pic compared to the unhinged racist rant now and laughing. it's always the ones you most suspect huh?

>>41997693
>Little Miss Wakanda

OP... Please just move on, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>41997717
How am I racist? It was Mrs Black Panther who started the warfare.

>>41997720
Funny how you let the other Anon’s racism off the hook, but you get angry at me for fighting back.