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PERMABOYMODING. IS IT POSSIBLE?
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berserk is honestly the best argument against pooners. the condition of gender non-conformity applied to an amab vs an afab, grif vs casca: we live in a world where people will always see someone like casca as an "upgraded woman" and someone like grif as a "downgraded man." which is why grif had to become so overwhelmingly skilled. if guts got raped, how many times do you think grif was raped, as a kid? and casca exists in this fairytale land where all the amabs protect her from sexual violence bc she has a vagina. it has to be femto, who rapes her. miura understood the meaning of vengeance
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Hrt doesn't work anyways so of course it's possible
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>>42557364
boymoding is a style choice
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>>42557364
no, you will almost certainly be forced into manmoding eventually. you won’t be a man man, but most people will still consider you a proper man once you age enough assuming you do the standard boymoding procedures
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>>42557459
Truly
>>42557522
The fat changes + Breasts? I'm also gonna be getting laser
>>42557550
Can I wear something other than nondescript black hoodies?
>>42557560
>standard boymoding procedures
Elaborate
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>>42557364
yes. I'm doing it. Not by choice tho :(
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>>42557866
>Elaborate
hiding boobs, wearing male clothing, not fully committing to voice training, general social awkwardness
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>>42557866
Nigga did i stutter? Hrt does nothing you can take it forever without anyone noticing
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>>42557953
oh, voice training? you mean literal self-brainwashing to fit into a cisheteronormative idea of what a woman or man should sound like? no, thanks. next you'll say, "youre faketrans and don't have dysphoria." so i respond, "get fucked to death by the nazis you love so much, sunderkommando"
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I've been on hrt for 17 years. Its possible if you consider crying often and praying for death daily as living
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>>42557984
you're literally black
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>>42557984
you look just like a cis woman. poonskull and all. honestly i must believe you are retarded
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>>42557996
And? Hrt doesn't work i still look like a man to people irl
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>>42557999
Tell that to people irl then
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>>42558037
>people irl
who misgenders you irl? your dad? parents will always misgender you no matter what. it isn't reflective of what you look like objectively
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>>42557990
this is the dumbest, most retarded post i've ever seen in my life

>cisheteronormative idea of what a woman or man should sound like
it's not a cisheteronormative idea of what something SHOULD be like. it's a biological reality of how something IS. that's why you get clocked from your man voice, retard. because women DON'T sound like that. it's not that cis people think they SHOULDN'T, it's that they just DON'T.

>you're faketrans and don't have dysphoria
i mean is that wrong? i got so much dysphoria from my voice it was literally unendurable so i trained the fuck out of it and got vfs to finish it off, and i STILL have some dysphoria from it. how do you not have any voice dysphoria at all? you're either faketrans or you've psyopped yourself so badly that you genuinely believe women ought to sound like whole ass testosterone-filled, fully virilized, utterly masculinized MEN.
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>>42558058
Uh yeah if those people still think I look 100% male the rest do too
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>>42558108
this is the definition of being blinded by ideology. youre lit-ra-ly over here reifing the social ought as an is bc youre so buckbroken by it. i'm sorry that my ability to peer inside your mind makes you uncomfortable, but that doesn't oblige me to sound any kind of way. it's a privilege to "optics nuke" people like you
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>>42558139
>this is the definition of being blinded by ideology
holy projection
>youre lit-ra-ly over here reifing the social ought as an is bc youre so buckbroken by it
how the fuck is the anatomical fact that men get a voice drop in puberty and women don't a social ought? some people are so unimaginably insane
>that doesn't oblige me to sound any kind of way
i'm not saying you're obliged to do anything. i'm just telling you you're literally ever going to pass if you don't voice train, because most people are not retarded enough to not be able to immediately tell "that's a man voice" when they hear you. even literal babies do it intuitively.
>it's a privilege to "optics nuke" people like you
you're not optics nuking me. you're just being unpassable. people won't know to connect me with people like you since i actually put in the effort to pass and people around me don't know i'm trans
>i'm sorry that my ability to peer inside your mind makes you uncomfortable
i don't think you have the mental faculties to peer inside your own pants
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>>42558210
you can drop the act, terf
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>>42558231
i am literally speechless. have fun never passing, i guess.
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>>42558244
you don't understand the concept of a fact, but you think youre in a position to dictate particular facts to me. for instance, the proposition, "men get a voice drop during puberty, women don't," admits of obvious exceptions that anyone who isn't a 10IQ terf can call to mind
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>>42558269
ok, you're still never going to pass though? have fun never passing, hon
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>>42558340
have fun passing but not being hot, toilet
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>>42558479
i am hot though? it's funny how much you project. you keep doing it. i'm literally one of the hottest people i've ever known. and i don't know why you're even talking about that.

either way, you think you're so fucking smart (you're abosolutely not lmfao), but who's perspective do you think is more PRODUCTIVE? the one where you don't pass and cry that everyone who does what it takes to pass is a terf or ugly or a cishet bootlicker or whatever nonsense your retarded online friends told you to say? or the one that makes you pass? think about that by yourself some time.
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>>42558553
>i'm literally one of the hottest people i've ever known
lol. thats why youre arguing with me on 4chan rn
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>>42558626
you're projecting AGAIN! "i'm on 4chan because i'm a disgusting moid, therefore everyone else who is on 4chan is a disgusting moid"
i don't see the connection? everyone is on social media nowadays, 4chan is my preferred social media despite mouth breathing retards like you. if i was slightly stupider i'd post a pic of my self just to drop your jaw. have fun not passing, ogre with man voice
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>>42557984
studmoding lmao
put on the dress alicia
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>>42558665
>have fun not passing, ogre with man voice
yeah, you already said that. i understand you cling to that bc you have no other identity but it's starting to bore me
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>>42557364
replying because i love berserk
no, people will notice if you have boobs and are shaped like a woman and act like a woman and sound like a woman idiot
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>>42558677
I don't look like a stud just a man

>>42558854
No one pays attention to cone tits and you won't end up shaped like a woman. I would know
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>>42558872
>No one pays attention to cone tits and you won't end up shaped like a woman. I would know
ok but even if you're an ugly woman people will still think you're a woman lol
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>>42558872
perform high femininity like all the other black dolls NOW
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>>42558887
Except no one sees me as a woman

>>42558916
Nigga im built like a brick and am malebrained high feminine is not possible for me
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>>42558989
thats why i said performing
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>>42558989
>Except no one sees me as a woman
look pretty feminine in the pic you posted idk
like if i saw you in public id assume you're just an ugly black girl
respectfully
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>>42559052
You are are or aren't super feminine it's not something you can perform. I was never faggy as a kid so I could never
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>>42559062
Feminine where? The only thing people see in me is a man lol
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>>42557459
Griffith if anything is the greatest argument for pooners. He was literally based on oscar. Griffith is the pinnacle of transmasc identity
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>>42559162
>pinnacle of transmasc identity
i think youre confusing grif with dororo. griffith is amab
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>>42559102
im a bi dude telling you this for context, not some brainwormed tranner or someone trying to hugbox your
believe me if you want idc
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>>42557459
>and someone like grif as a "downgraded man."
How? Griffith is an ascended man if anything
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>>42559237
it's "ascended" to sell your ass for troops and supplies? hardly
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>>42557364
Yes.
Been doing it for 9yrs already. Kept a bit of facial hair and didn't voicetrain. I just wanted to continue to look youthful and avoid/delay further masculinization.
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>>42559268
a whore has to do what a whore has to do, griffiths life was one of endless sacrifice
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>>42558854
>shaped like a woman
yes
>act like a woman
>sound like a woman
i dont want to do those things i just want to johanliebertmode
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>>42559365
right, bc he was seen as a lesser man. guts saw grif as a lesser man immediately. and then grif beat the fuck out of him. that's the fate to which grif was assigned. that's why he has the behelit. he's actually the only one who has a fate, who knows what it means to be bound by the causal stream. everyone else in the story is fateless, and exists incidentally to grif's fate, other than 100-man guts, who is imbued with fate in his encounter with grif. and grif's downfall only comes when he fails to realize how much of a subject he became to guts' fate (the second fight, guts' departure from the band of the hawk)
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>>42559414
idk about all of that but I think Guts should've railed Griffith multiple times that would probably prevent all that happened later
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>>42559726
that, at least, we can agree on



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