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Just recently, I’m finally almost done with getting over my despair of me not having a Rydia moment (or what the gen-alphas call a “glow up”) where one day I wake up and post my photos on the internet to become a hot woman with 50 guys in my DMs, and my family congratulating me for coming out of my shell, instead of waking up being a mediocre passoid dragging herself 4 the IPL machine & dishwashing ad infinitum… it hasn’t happened 7 years into HRT and one year on prog, so it probably never will until I get surgery, and might even require muff pics along with the face ones too. So yeah, still sorta coping with that after the whole “transition will make you hot” crowd had gassed me up my whole adolesence, only to ditch me in my 20’s for not having D cups & an 5E# voice.

So, I’ve been trying to better myself and become more feminine by learning how to cook and such, that way at least if my appearance isn’t too hot, that my skills can be. I’m mostly into men that are tradmasc and upper-middle class, like smoking and bike riding and whiskey-drinking types of guys, ones who definitely wouldn’t appreciate me being a permaNEET Gen Z version of Futaba playing sim city all day, instead of nurturing our future kids or making breakfast. I know most of it is probably socialization rather than a biological impetus, but I still feel like I should be cultivating that image to be/feel attractive to those types of men.

The problem is, most of my matriline are hyper-liberal pagans and/or middle of the road non-denominational Christians who aren’t exactly on board with me becoming a tradwife, and most of my male relatives aren’t exactly traditional men either. They aren’t unsupportive of me becoming a woman, just whenever I talk about being like Alice from The Honeymooners or Toriel towards my guy friends, they pretty much just give me platitudes rather than genuine advice. Soooo, this sorta leaves me to have to train myself to be tradfemme alone. (1/??)
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This is your personal blog and I am reading.
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>>42674385
Not like there’s a “tradwife academy” in the real world, after all.

My little sister is the only one in my family who’s actually given me serous advice,
but she’s like a decade younger. Plus I’m supposed to be the wise and intuitive older sister here, so I typically feel bad asking her about too much or being deferent with these things. It just feels weird to be and like I’m subverting the role I was re-cast in…

Any advice, tranners? I’m not sure how to go about this anymore, cause on one hand I wanna go to college to study linguistics and join a sorority and get more assimilated as a woman before settling down, but I’d absolutely hate being forced to be academic rather than a tradwife/mother. I feel like I should maybe study for being a tradwife while I’m not one, rather than having to learn basically from scratch in the year 203X-204X, with no help and after I’ve already got three children from adoption, and possibly artificial ovum or some other technology which can legit make me a genetic mother.

Because like, I don’t want to be a complete brown Banana 37y.o. wine aunt with no prospects for men, but I also don’t wanna be a tradwife chained down in a marriage where I’m with a man who can/will never pay for my SRS or femlar. So I’m genuinely not sure what to think, I’d appreciate some thoughts and advice here, cause I’m kinda lost right now and my situationship bf has been noticing how distant and upset I am lately. He’s the only one who fully understands my need to be a post-SRS tradwife or to be accepted in college as a woman, but he’s kinda limited in what he can do for me, so we’re considering just amicably separating when I go off college. Not sure how to feel about that, but it’s probably for the best at this point.

Pic related btw, it’s my first attempt at a French omelette, please don’t be mean. I tried my best to make breakfast for my roommate… hopefully it’s not too hideous. (02/??)
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>>42674440
That’s rather encouraging. I’ve just posted part 2 now. I woulda done it earlier, but I needed to walk to the ATM and withdraw money, so I had to AFK for a while.
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>>42675162
Why do you find it encouraging? I'm not a tranny so I can't give you advice.
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>>42675259
Because it is a comment on here that isn’t toxic nor degrading me for wanting to be tradfemme. That’s more than I can say about most interactions on here, desu.
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>>42674385
I'm a guy and I still can't understand the appeal of being a tradwife. It sounds like a life of indentured servitude.
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>>42674385
I think its great that you wanna be a tradwife. I also would like to be one but I gotta finish my transition first.
Just keep cooking these omelettes and other things, the more you do them the better you are. Your first attempts are going to be shit and thats normal. Now I dont know if that omelette is shit, maybe its delicious, but a 100th one you make is gonna be even better.

I dont know if i can give you a sensible advice nona, but I hope you can make it.
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>>42675688
>It sounds like a life of indentured servitude.
Servitude to the man you love. Makes sense that a man wouldnt get it but to me it sounds like a peak feminine life. But i'll probably never be this lucky
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>>42675728
Interesting. I guess serving your man is an expression of your submissive desires, which are inherently feminine.
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>>42674385
what in the fuck is that supposed to be and why is it on a paper plate
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>heres your 0 ingredient fucked up omelette on a paper plate cooked by my kid sister
and was "asrielle" really your best idea for a trad name?
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>>42675125
Please fully consider what you actually want from life.

Being a trad wife in a world where a two income household is the norm is not ideal. It is a luxury. You should go to school and get a degree. You should have your own job.

For many trad wives you see online, them making videos IS their job. They are selling you a lifestyle that is incredibly hard to maintain. They aren't actually financially subservient to their husbands at all.

You cannot be a trad wife without a husband who is fully willing and CAPABLE of supporting that lifestyle. You also will be stuck with said person. Its not enough to find someone who appreciates trad wives, you have to find someone who accepts the reality that you will be financial dead weight. We don't live on farms anymore (unless you do), women don't spin and weave for extra cash between helping out with farm duties.

All your female relatives know how to cook, clean, care for kids, etc. They all know how to be trad wives. They just looked at the way the world is and found it to be a stupid prospect.

So go take cooking classes. If you like being a servant, go be a maid/cleaner/watch houses for cash. Learn things that make you feel feminine, like textile arts. Dress traditional. Take care of your body. But at the end of the day, do it because it makes you happy. Don't be stupid and ruin your financial prospects because you want a romantic fantasy relationship. If you find someone who can support you, THEN you can be a trad wife.
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>>42675688
And being a rentoid slaving to a corporation all day doesn’t sound equally like indentured servitude? At least being a tradwife, chances are I’d have a husband that loved me, otherwise they’d just manipulate me into getting a job to pay for his habit or something anyway, then I’d be demoted to a normal wife so the argument would be moot. A husband is also way more likely to give me a raise than a boss would be as well, because I couldn’t just tell a CEO “hey, can I get a couple Jacksons for a new purse,” and have them accept, but my future husband would probably say yes as long as I did my duty that week.

>>42675704
Thanks for the advice! I’ll try to keep on cooking, even if it kinda sucks. As you said, I’m bound to get better. As for the taste, it was great but it had a bit too much Parmesan cheese and it was a touch too salty for an omelette. Didn’t really taste filling at all either. BF liked it though.

Thinking of maybe making some American style ribs or pizza later though, a bit more of a filling meal. Hopefully that will at least be more palatable and harder to mess up, I’ve made pizza like four times before and every time it’s been okay. Maybe I should stick to that niche… like the whole Bruce Lee quote about practicing one kick a thousand times and all that jazz.

>>42675808
It’s a French omelette with cheese, and it’s on a paper plate because I didn’t want to dirty a ceramic one just for a single dish. Didn’t have enough money for a side then and washing eggs is a major pain in the neck, so I just went with paper that time.

>>42675852
Asrielle isn’t my legal name, I just don’t use my deadname nor colloquial name because it would be too much of a dead giveaway. I chose Asrielle because it’s a biblical name by technicality, and it’s also somewhat of an undertale reference, so it suits me well for a username.
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>>42676004
I appreciate your honesty with the financial concerns and the cultural stuff. My mom mainly stopped because my dad wanted to force her to work to get more money for his cars and shit though, not because we needed two incomes to survive. She got 2 years maternity leave as well and quit her job before the military, so it wasn’t due to need or ideological conflict that she stopped.

It’s great you mention cleaning though, that’s actually my main hustle. I love being a maid, I hate the hoarder houses, but love being able to help people and be hospitable. The senpai doesn’t exactly get that either, but they at least are supportive with that objective.

I’ll try to cultivate those sort of skills and serve more clients though, I’ve been lacking a lot recently in that regard cause most agencies would force me to use my deadname/birth gender, which by technicality would exclude me from being a maid. Not sure how to resolve it, but ima at least try again, anon. If you have any suggestions on dealing with that or recommendations for trans supportive maid agencies, then link them, I don’t mind providing my deadname to a place that will be kind about things and support direct deposit, it’s just not exactly the best working environments for me rn because most places in central Texas tend to be very hit or miss with any non-sex based workplace accommodations
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>>42674385
>be mid looking passoid
>write 10 paragraphs complaining
anon, i'd kill everyone on the planet in a gas chamber a billion times over for a trillion years and watch them each go down in pain individually, knowing well that i'm doing this, if it meant having your life
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>>42676421
If it means I can get reincarnated as a cis woman, then sure… just know I had to go through my 3/10 ugly phase too, it wasn’t easy for me either. So don’t go thinking my life would be a cakewalk if you ever got to live mine.
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>>42676626
nta
First of all, drop that attitude. It's not womanly, and definitely not trad.
Sure, this is 4chan, but resentment isn't good for you, nona. And it's not attractive to men either.
>guys, ones who definitely wouldn’t appreciate me being a permaNEET Gen Z version of Futaba playing sim city all day, instead of nurturing our future kids or making breakfast
correct mindset. You're already on the right path.
Personality is what KEEPS a relationship.
>situationship bf
You are making a mistake if you're separating.
A trad marriage is one in which you both GROW together. Those are the most long lasting ones.
>financials
Trad doesn't mean no work or nothing for you. It means you don't run the finances of the family.
My husband has the final word, but I do run a small business, I take care of the house and have my own activities with other women.
It's a partnership, not a prison.
The biggest asset isn't/won't be your looks. But the peace you can bring to his mind. The bar is very low given the behavior of many (most?) cisfs. So learn that. Learn how to bring peace. Your presence should cheer up the atmosphere, not fill it with resentment.
My husband gets enough shit at work, he doesn't need more when he gets home.

t. 43yo wifemoder
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>>42677132
hi wifemoder! i talked to you a little little bit in another thread

i want to be a tradwife. i can cook and clean/misc domestic tasks well, and while i got broken up with my longterm bf a while ago i do have hope for the future and i had a nice valentine's date with a guy who was downright gentlemanly + have second date coming up.
i'm self funding surgeries, have the money already, so i won't need future hubby to pay for them, maybe only kids (which i'll also help pay for but still). i am mid 20s but don't have a career path/stable fulltime employment which is not a problem fingers crossed
any specifically useful advice you might have to impart for my situation? / anything you think that is undervalued/stated if you want this kind of life?
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>>42677132
> First of all, drop that attitude. It's not womanly, and definitely not trad. Sure, this is 4chan, but resentment isn't good for you, nona. And it's not attractive to men either.

My bad… I didn’t know I was coming off like that. I was just trying to contextualize things. Sorry if that sounded too incelish or something, meant for it to moreso prove a point about how I’ve been oppressed too even as a passoid.

> Personality is what KEEPS a relationship.
Yeah, that’s the main issue for me. I am functional most days able to go out and be confident or whatever, and I have a nice personality even if I’m just talking about Tetris or a trip to the smoke store; however, if I get a treatment resistant depression or bottom dysphoria flareup, then I quickly become grating and sad and spiraling unless there is someone there to pull me out of it. That’s my major vulnerability, and probably the main reason why I haven’t found a man, aside from waffling about being a consistent churchgoer (haven’t converted to Catholicism yet and Protestantism is a free-for-all about attendance), and seemingly rolling a 7 on charisma most days.

> You are making a mistake if you're separating. A trad marriage is one in which you both GROW together. Those are the most long lasting ones.

Yes, but he doesn’t have the money to provide such a relationship and doesn’t want to. He is a repper now and wants to be a lesbian bottom in the future, which I absolutely can’t provide because I am heterosexual. The cat’s already out of the bag and he has said numerous times to me “if I could transition, I would, regardless of whether you’ll be attracted to me or not.” So I literally couldn’t have him as my husband long-term even if I wanted to, lest I come off as a massive hypocrite. Hence the term, situationship, cause we’re both looking for different things altogether, but we’re staying together until we each find someone better suited for our needs.
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>>42677306
The most useful advice is to develop a personality of your own that is not some gigaobscure fandom or something excessively perverted.
Ideally, your interests should be as normie as possible with cisfs in your lifestyle. As wifemoder, I interact primarily with other wives and we usually chat about education of children (our own or nephews/nieces), gardening, health stuff and issues in our immediate community. Maybe gossip about remote family, sometimes (sorry, not sorry).
>nice valentine's date with a guy who was downright gentlemanly + have second date
Fingers crossed.
If you click, you should speed it up. Don't be a retard like me and wait because you might not get as lucky as I eventually got.
I met my husband in 2013 more or less by accident. Please don't count on such luck!
It doesn't have to work perfectly right from the get go. Perfect is the enemy of good.
A long lasting marriage is one where you build together.
>is undervalued/stated
The peace and quiet of it. And the contentment.
The internet portrays trad marriage like a fairy tale or like a slavery situation. In reality, it's neither.
The feeling that all we have is each other is enough to keep and strengthen the bond. Not every day is a party, but every day is nice.
Happiness is always temporary so don't pursue constant happiness (btw, that's physically harmful) but instead pursue contentment.
I feel safe with my husband and he feels calm with me. It's a mutual exchange. I bring him peace and he brings me safety.
By "safety" I really mean emotional first and foremost. Don't fall for the seething femcel memes about "emotional labour" and shit like that. That shit is what destroys marriages.
Remember that women sabotage other women all the time. And single women keep other women single as well.
Associate with women in longer relationships or married. Emulate women you admire. And don't be shy to discard parasocial relationships and superficial friendships with bitchy/resentful single women.
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>>42677132
> Trad doesn't mean no work or nothing for you. It means you don't run the finances of the family.
> My husband has the final word, but I do run a small business, I take care of the house and have my own activities with other women.
> It's a partnership, not a prison.

I mean, I figured that is what I was getting at. I’m not like a full joint back account stan for trophy wife sort of gal, in fact, I NEED domestic labor sometimes and encouragement to feel good about myself. If I had kids and they were eating nothing but frozen meals all day and my husband acted like Homer Simpson everyday, then I’d be depressed and wanting to make some frickin dinner or go to the theatre for family bonding. I’m just against corporate work, not against domestic labor. I can scrub floors all day and make food, but I wanna do it for my husband, not for a soulless corporation that will ruin me and subvert the intent of state law.

My main hobby though has to be art and stuff, I’m not exactly the most monetizable in terms of style, but painting is my most profitable endeavor aside from maid things. I’m planning to pick up sewing but I kinda suck at it now, I’ll probably improve though, especially if I can convince my grandmother to teach me in the future.

> The biggest asset isn't/won't be your looks. But the peace you can bring to his mind. The bar is very low given the behavior of many (most?) cisfs. So learn that.
> Learn how to bring peace. Your presence should cheer up the atmosphere, not fill it with resentment.
My husband gets enough shit at work, he doesn't need more when he gets home.

Thank you wifemoder, that’s the advice I needed to hear:., I tend to be a pretty good hostess, but I’m not always wife material. I’m pretty bad at keeping a facade, but I do at least know when to hold my tongue and have a pretty good sense of social intuition, so I have somewhat of a good foundation from maidhood and HRT giving a sense of EQ. It’s a start, right?
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>>42677467
>I’m just against corporate work
Relatable. It's how I ended up a business owner. The net profit is mildly bigger than a corporate wage but it brings ME peace.
>sewing
>convince my grandmother to teach me in the future
Start today! Your grandma won't be there forever and once her sight weakens (and it will), the task will be harder.
I do knitting, especially in the winter. It calms me down.
>but I’m not always wife material
You have to be wife material for one, not for the whole planet.
>I’m pretty bad at keeping a facade
Wrong mindset.
It's not a facade, it's acting intentionally to provoke the consequences you want. Keeping the peace requires some actions and some inactions. That's it.
Although after so many years, to me it comes natural.
>It’s a start, right?
Yes.
But please don't be in the mentality that "you have time". You really don't. Life is shorter than you think. Finding a husband after 30 is harder.
Don't aim to be perfect right now. Constant improvement and accepting "good enough" as an outcome is how you should run things.
>bf is repper
Sorry to hear that. I get your point.
>he doesn’t have the money to provide such a relationship
This, however, is also a wrong approach.
You have to select for potential, not winner right now.
Neither me nor my husband were in 2013 anywhere near as able to provide the relationship we have now. We grew together. We bet on each other that we can do it.
>church
If you can find peace and meaning in that, go ahead. It didn't work for me.
>moreso prove a point about how I’ve been oppressed too even as a passoid
You have to let it go. It's not good for you.
Everytime I discuss how I dug through shit (literally) to get where I am I also get angry. And it's not good.
We can't change the past. But we can live well from now on. Been running on that since I finally had the opportunity to troon out at 25. I wasn't as lucky as you are.



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