What's up with the trans women on here still pulling the whole "uwu i'm just a small dumb bpdemon! i want my chud bf to beat me and pound my prostate :3 i love slitting my wrists and doing drugs and starving myself! i'm so small! i'm such an anamaxxing twinkhon! :3" shtick?You're not cute. You're not unique. You're not special. You're a quotidian low self-esteem pickme. Your performance is stale, unoriginal, and boring. The men you interact with see you as nothing but one of many disposable holes. You're a loser planning on wasting years of your life on other losers, instead of securing material resources and holistically bettering yourself (physically, emotionally, economically, morally, politically, etc).I think a lot of you are under some delusional fantasy that, by artificially creating vulnerability in yourself, if you somehow become the "most vulnerable" troon, then some monster (probably the archetype of your absent/abusive faggot father) will finally choose to love you instead of abuse you. That's not how the world works. That's not how men work. That's not how life works.It doesn't make you "pass" as anything other than pathetic. You're not "fembrained". You don't "soulpass" as a cis woman. Intelligent, rational, well-adjusted cis women are making the wise decision of either: A) decentering men; or B) demanding thorough physical and financial compensation from men. You pass as a joke and a pariah at best, and a MEF coomer at worst.t. a HSTS with self-respect
>>42697420Hey now I agree with almost everything you said but leave MEF out of this
>>42697420I'm working on stuff but it'd be nice to have a chasoid bf who helps push me and helps pay for some of the things I need to better myself
>The men you interact with see you as nothing but one of many disposable holes.hot...
>>42697420They're desperate and lonely OPSimilar to how the people who type about wanting to get raped have deeply rooted insecuritiesIronically most of them can't even have a basic conversation and ghost if you try to talk to them
>>42697420HSTS jealous because chasers prefer agps :3
>>42697449Having a boyfriend who isn't financially compensating you is peak pickme behavior. Go get a boyfriend if you want, but ensure that he's providing financial resources for you. Don't waste time on loser men. Also, remember that until you're legally married, he can drop you at any time with almost zero legal, social, and economic consequences. Don't act like a wife unless you're a wife. Godspeed.>>42697467It's not hot for a well-adjusted individual. It's just sad and pathetic.
>Intelligent, rational, well-adjustedi am none of those things and don't carei'm a burnout tranny with enough pockets of self awareness to understand that i don't have enough willpower to change and have chosen to become more self destructive
>>42697500Suit yourself. Just remember that it's not a cute look. It's depressing to witness from an outsider's perspective. And to abusive predators? Your mindset is like blood in the water. I hope you wake up soon.
>>42697420https://voca.ro/1jmo0RfQN5pV
>>42697498Yeah I don't plan on being with a guy who isn't pushing me to be better. I make solid money but unfortunately I got ultra moided because I was hit with too many psyops growing up (literally couldn't even be a fag because private religious school) and need a lot more than just FFS and SRS to feel okay in my body.
The decenterering and demanding compensation bit is a joke by the way, and a major reason why men are just staying singleI hear women complain all the time about how men don't talk to them or approach them any more, like yeah no shit Karen we just went through 10 years of cancel culture bra burning feminist dogshitOtherwise I agree, and think women in general should respect themselves more
>>42697420identity/personality bankruptcy so people pull from the pool of the homogenous subcultures
>>42697487They absolutely are desperate and lonely. They're just delusional in thinking that manufacturing further vulnerability and self-destruction is the answer to that desperation and loneliness. I have little problem with a trans woman engaging with rape and abuse fantasies within her own head, so long as she maintains self-esteem and self-protection in the material world.>>42697534Interact with Nazi men, play video games, and jerk off as much as you want. As long as you don't paint a target on your back and tolerate abuse, and protect your financial/emotional/physical wellbeing with fervor from moids, that's fine. You should still be engaging in self-betterment and development, and I hope that you carve out time for that sooner rather than later.>>42697550Any male partner should be financially providing for you regardless of your personal financial status. Your money is your money. His money is your money.
>>42697420Cutting shouldn't ever be encouraged
>>42697620The hard part is finding a good male partner when I'm a fucking honSeriously I have a 19" bideltoid that's why I need clavicle reduction so bad
They are braindead gooners. They aren't picking anyone but themselves. They don't want love, they want beatings, because that makes them coom hard. Sometimes they come to their senses after, but usually they don't.
>>42697556Any man who can't financially and physically provide for a woman doesn't deserve to be in the dating pool. I'm thrilled if they choose to remove themselves from it voluntarily. Unfortunately, most don't, which is why women must still be smart and self-protective.
>>42697656Often they become this very gooner archetype described here >>42697420
>>42697420A lot of trannies come with an especially toxic mix of submissiveness and extreme self-loathing and anybody trying to date them should expect this. I think many people go through a phase where they just decide if that’s going to come up inevitably why not just lead with it and abandon all pretenses. I would agree that there is probably healthier ways to be honest about things tho.
>>42697623It absolutely never should.>>42697648Hons can still find good male partners (or at least financially generous short-term partners). It's a known phenomenon that many chasoids prefer bricks anyways. The only thing stopping you is your own lack of self-esteem and self-protection.
>>42697697I imagine the venn diagram of chasers that prefer hons and good male partners to be two non-overlapping circles
This is the trans feminism we need. Respect. MEF is based thoughbeit.
>>42697526>And to abusive predators? Your mindset is like blood in the wateryay
>>42697705Like to clarify I don't want a man specifically so he can cover my surgery costs. I want a man who loves me and will incidentally help me with covering my surgery costs (and I'll pay as much as I can for them myself). I want genuine love. Like I grew up trying to be a really good Christian boy and that informs a lot of my romantic and emotional desires when the reality that I'm a tranny became unavoidable.
>>42697664If some moid wants to crossdress (or transition) and get the shit beaten out of him and fucked in the ass, all because he failed to be able to protect and provide for a woman, I don't particularly care. He will likely rope before he causes any significant harm or optics damage to genuine transsexual woman.>>42697705It depends how you define a "good man". Can you find an emotionally present provider who's going to bring you home to his family and put a ring on your finger? That's markedly harder if you're an absolute gorillahon, but not if you're a run-of-the-mill hon. Even as a gorillahon, you can find financially generous and non-abusive short-term chasoids.
>>42697727A lot of transsexual women who grow up Christian and attracted to men are deluded by Disney fantasies and tradwife programming. Focus less on love and more on being provided for. Allow love to grow through being consistentlyprovided for and protected. Slavic women have had this down to a science for decades now, and they're some of the most beautiful and financially supported women in the world.
>>42697420Idk dude im a millennial we just type like that +some ironic 4chan slang
>>42697792>>42697839Part of it is just me being very emotionally fragile from past abuse. I freeze up really quickly and I am afraid I won't ever be able to like, engage in any kind of intimacy. Also genuinely most cis people seem evil.
itt op took a 101 feminism course and decided they are an enlightened beingheckin 4b!! decenter men!!but are also too retarded to understand that their ideas about "high value" men in the provider role are very much the total opposite of what they are trying to preach herefurther proof that trans women are women because you're fucking stupid
>>42697420>why do the sexist men with a LARP fetish roleplay as what an incel thinks a woman should act like
>>42697866You're putting the cart ahead of the horse. Abuse and prior programming has taught you to focus more on "intimacy" and "vulnerability" than on self-protection. It is okay to be aware that you're currentlyemotionally fragile. Self-esteem and self-protection are a muscle that you need to exercise and develop. It takes time.And yes, the vast majority of cis people are deeply and sickeningly evil--especially cis moids.
>>42697896"High value man" is a manosphere term that has no basis in reality. There is no such thing as a valuable man. Men are inherently low value. Historically, you've always been cannon fodder and biological workhorses. You are evidently triggered and aren't engaging with my post in good intellectual faith. As such, your opinion is discarded.>>42697897A lot of the trans women engaging with this fetish are indeed struggling with internalized sexism and misogyny. It's grim.
>>42697896>further proof that trans women are women because you're fucking stupidHoly based
>>42697969You are a man. LOL
>>42697902It's taught me that I need someone who actually loves me because I have been abused by people who claimed to love me. Parents, partners, friends, etc. Like one thing transitioning has done is made me far more emotionally raw from this kind of past trauma. Like I can't hide the scars inflicted upon me because I can't repress it anymore. I chose to bottle everything up at 18 and that's the only thing that kept me alive back then, and now the cork that sealed that bottle has been unsealed and now it's spilling everywhere. Like it's bad. I can't handle being touched on my back levels of bad, and I'm not cute enough for those with broken bird syndrome.
>>42697969no im engaging in good faith, you are genuinely stupid and have self centered ego driven world views- literally agp tier gooning to yourself as some object that should be worshiped bullshiti think you should have self respect and self esteem as well, but use your brain and treat men with respect as well
Transbian here. When I came out I just dated a cute nerdy sweet guy with a big dick who didn't abuse me except for kinks, he didn't make a lot of money but he was loving and I was happy w him. Unfortunately I really want to be with women. Maybe consider doing what I did though?
>>42698085Based (as long as he was financially generous).
>>42697420This entire thread could have been one sentence:"I hate men and i don't want anything good for them" but you wrapped it in a word salad to make it sound more serious than it is. You are bitter because you don't pass and men would not pick you no matter how much you wanted it so you gave up and started to hate them instead
>>42697420You know you love a good prostate pounding, anon don’t try to deny it.
>>42698460The vast majority of this thread is simply advocating for trans women to engage in self-betterment and self-protection. In reality, this thread couldn't be distilled into the singular sentence you gave. In reality, the majority of the post isn't even about men. You simply believe that the post can be distilled into the sentence you gave because you're emotionally triggered (from a singular sentence in the last paragraph of the post) and not engaging in good intellectual faith. Unless you're triggered from the assertion that transgender women shouldn't be subjecting themselves to abusive relationships and self-destruction, in which case your opinion is less than worthless.I actually don't hate men, and I actually want good for them. I quite enjoy interacting with well-adjusted men. I enjoy seeing the confidence they develop when they embody a healthy masculinity based in protecting and providing for women, and developing healthy family units.But, unfortunately, you're unable to see that. And as a result of being triggered, you're hyperfocusing on a singular sentence and using the classic deadbeat male cope (hurr durr men don't want you and you're jealous).This post was developed from a lifetime of navigating heterosexual relationships, and of having a rich tapestry of friendships with other (mostly cis) women.
>>42698645Of course I enjoy sex and the erotic. I enjoy it with well-adjusted men who embody healthy masculinity. There's nothing wrong with that. It's part of the human experience.
