How do I get rid of AGP? I'm over it, and I need to move on with my life and be a real man again and stop wasting time fapping to stupid fetish shit. I'm in my 30s now for God's sake
>>42744472HRT, duh. Why u dumb?
>>42744677No I want to go the opposite direction than that.
>>42744472You are a person who like seeing themselves as a woman and the only outlet you currently have is sexual. Basically you have a degenerative disease that wont kill you but it will cause you increasingly severe emotional anguish as you age, and the only cure is to become a woman. Sorry, nona. It is a rough hand to be dealt but there's no reason why you can't also have fun with it.
>>42744715No, I really don't see myself as a woman at all. That's why I want to get rid of the AGP. I didn't even get it until I was in my 20s
hrt? once I got on I basically lost all my outwardly agp desires. I haven’t even masturbated in like weeks or have had anny agp mental desires and don’t really care for agp stuff anymore. I just feel normal. When i went off for half a year it all came back and was horrible so I know it’s definitely the hrt and not anything else
>>42744734I'll bite. Why do you think you have the AGP in the first place?
>>42744705Opposite direction of what, a cure? Like ive been down this road before.> its a fetish> its coomer brain> its porn addiction> its humilaition fetish> its kinkI mean Idk what to tell you. You get aroused by the idea you are a woman. Become a woman and it unironically stops. Im being real and not grooming or trolling you. AGP is trans. And even if whatever else you try or think it is, the treatments are the same.
>>42744750I don't know if there is a why, why does anyone have any fetish? I used to be straighter, I know that, though I've always had a bisexual thing going on, but as I got older and stayed a virgin this fetish grew on me
>>42744766I can't become anything even close to a woman I'd actually want to be though, which is porn star level. If I can't, then I don't want to. Even if I could I don't know if I'd want to in all honesty, it's fucking retarded to be this old and fucking around with this nonsense.
>>42744472become a buddhist or some shit
>>42744796NTA but thinking you need to have a pornstar body to be happy is just the testosterone talking
>>42744796Well itll be harder and farther away next year, and ive been where you are, gambling on the idea the AGP thoughts will go away. They dont. They wax and wan, and yea sometimes you have other stressors that will prioritize over those thoughts, but best your gonna do is slowly accumulate femgear till you have to throw it away like a dead body in the night,or your partner discovers it and leaves you, you hit some other crisis that knocks this lose for you and you come out to everyone who thinks you have brain-worms or are crazy, because to them youve been normal not trans then 15years later you "suddenly" wanted to become a woman. It doesnt end well. Remember Roberta.
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>>42744766No this is retarded, if you don’t have dysphoria you’re not trans.
>>42744734>That's why I want to get rid of the AGP.I remember being where you are. I remember thinking I was going to out masculine this. That I was going to defeat it with iron will. Every time I visited trans spaces I felt like it was a cult that was trying to pull me in. So I responded by trying to resist all of it. The AGP never went away. As I got older I lost the ability to get off any other way, I had to be a woman in my fantasies. So at 35 I decided fuck it, I will try estrogen for a couple months and see if this is a fetish or if this stuff is actually for me. The community wisdom is that if you aren't actually trans you will hate the effects of HRT. By week 4 it I was going "holy fuck, for the first time in my life I feel like a normal person". I am learning the rest as I go, but I can't imagine ever not being on HRT now. I never want to go back to how I felt before.
>>42744873Too bad im transitioning anyways, thereby making you wrong by definition, so suck my clitty and lick my empty ball sack.
>>42744849AGP becomes so unbearable that looking like that was preferable to going on as a man. Think about that OP. That is the course your are on right now and where you are going to end up unless you do something sooner.
>>42744890I feel like this is another bot gasliting, but in all honesty, its takes a long time to go from starting transition to passable enough to be in public. Theres so many steps and costs along the way, each one you can just not do and stop. Detrans. Its not like the moment you start HRT your balls fall off and never function again. Theres probably real concern for underage, but if you post puberty, its going to take along time to make anything permanent and never able to fully detrans. Simply if the HRT does make you feel better by 3-6months then just stop and detrans. Maybe chudding out and fighting the AGP thoughts is the better of the two struggles for you.
>>42744904I was literally like OP, and a mixture of something happening to me, then that Roberta story, made me fully lean into being trans. Roberta is literally future me if i continue repressing. I see it. I feel sorry for her family and everyone she hurt, but I also understand the complexity of how hurt people hurt people. Its a story of repression. It ends poorly.
>>42744943Lol I ain't a bot>Maybe chudding out and fighting the AGP thoughts is the better of the two struggles for you.I used to live on /pol/ I was pissed at everything all the time. I would not recommend. It's been 3 years of trooning out and I am still trying to unfuck myself from that era.Some anon said in another thread that if you constantly stay in fight or flight mode you can resist AGP. I lived that, it was horrible.
>>42744472purely theoretical, but perhaps you could channel Anima-chan into a tulpa and then murder her.I can't really recommend this idea though honestly, you would probably lose too much of your soul in the process
>>42744472I used to have anatomic AGP pretty bad. I was planning on SRS and everything if I could find someone who could keep my testes.But I found when I was in Japan I wasn’t bothered by it at all. Partly their culture doesn’t bombard you with sexualized imagery all the time. Also it clicked when I went to some onsens in Japan. Hanging out nude with other men also nude for no other reason than to be comfortable was extremely normalizing. So I started going to nudist resorts with some friends and I’ve also found that healthy.I think the disappearance of social nudity in pools and changing rooms around the 70s has much to do with the surge of body image disorders.Try it, AMA. Good luck anon.
>>42744967I hurt so many people repressing. I became such an absolutely horrible person. On one hand I really think we need more gatekeeping to keep out these no effort trannys that make us look horrible. On the other, if hadn't thought that to start HRT I already had to be feminine, I would have avoided causing so much suffering for everybody that encountered me. The world is objectively a better place because im on hormones.
>>42744976> you constantly stay in fight or flight mode you can resist AGPHmm i could see that. Its a hiearchy of needs. Starving, cold, thirsty, homeless, all things to be bigger concerns then sex. Fight or flight, "we have to save the white race" "we are literally being genocided" "our country has fallen" its a hell mindset. Even if those things are true. The focus on them i could see being like a drug to repress.
>>42744821It kills the fantasy and makes me lose all interest. It's purely sexual>>42744849I'm already a giant piece of shit I'll just kill myself if it gets worse>>42744890I feel like a normal person most of the time so this isn't me. I have no desire to be feminine
>>42744993> hang out with nudistsew. No thank you. Id rather cut off my testicles.
>>42745023It's interesting that you are considering that as an option
>>42744993I'm not bothered by it any time besides when I fap. But maybe if I just got busy and got a life it would go away, that's true. Actually experienced something for once in my fucking life for a change>>42745005>"we have to save the white race"This is true too.
>>42745014> I'm already a giant piece of shit I'll just kill myself if it gets worseYea ive had a few attempted suicides myself. The incel path leads to that but then youll think, "yea but why not take a few extra with me?" The tranner path youll think, "yea but why not try to transition first?" Then 95% report no regrets/happier. Real statistic btw, just cant remember exact number.
>>42745027Well im trans, so...
>>42745014> t kills the fantasy and makes me lose all interest. It's purely sexualYou know what else is purely sexual? Sexual identity.
>>42745067I mean, I'm lying I'll never kill myself because death is scarier. I'll just spend the rest of my life on 4chan>>42745106We are talking about more than that though
I just like crossdressing and getting fucked by dudes personally lolLove to give HRT a try but that might fuck up my mojo
>>42744472In Soviet Russia AGP gets rid of You!>>42744734oooh. you seem to see women as some sort of alien creatures dont you? few years and it will go from wanting to be (turned into)) girl (even if its just for horny for you now) to feeling like your woman piloting malebody. feeling trapped screaming to get free. shit you not its downward spiral waves of alternate longing, hyperfocused distraction, dissociation, despair, delusional reemission while being dead despite being alive... with exceptions of sweet divine monents of that girlfeel, longing and calling. you will see. we warn you. buckle up ride just begun (hysterical repper laugh) and it will be neverending my dear. oh dear its for real hahaha.>>42744779bisexual? fetish? like started with fapping to traps and transes then putting on frocks started to seem very alluring and thought of putting them on and getting fucked by a man gives you horny even though gay porn does nothing to you, eh?>>42745005true but after years even thisbstops working nor drugs. wqking up in the middle of night anxious calming down by submerging yourself in a calm soothing imaginery of being a woman to be crushed by longing and crying... >>42745106dont be fooled. when lust wanes spiritual agp shines so bright. it does.also need to add... if your family is religious its trauma that caused you to repress deeply but it resurfaced as soon as you unfetrered yoursellf from that and tradchud nonsense and got exposed to it. like a fly in a honeypot.
>>42745118> We are talking about more than that thoughAre we? Each letter of LGBT is a sexual identity. AGP is trans. Youre just trying to figure out how or when or if you should transition. Its not a bad idea to leave here. This board really trys to gaslit age with youngshits and trys to confuse people that HSTS is only trutrans. Its a lie, and the real world will bite their tongues on telling you. But i guarentee you if you pop that seal with a Dr, the flood gates will open up and things you did even realize will make sense as you open up and talk about it.
>>42745191>oooh. you seem to see women as some sort of alien creatures dont you?No? Also cringe, I've been mostly stuck in this mode fore years and it hasn't gotten worse and also it was very late onset.>like started with fapping to traps and transes then putting on frocks started to seem very alluring Started with traps yes but I've never crossdressed or had any desire to. Gay porn for me has to be faceless or it doesn't work, ya.
>>42745191> so need to add... if your family is religious its trauma that caused you to repress deeply but it resurfaced as soon as you unfetrered yoursellf from that and tradchud nonsense and got exposed to it. like a fly in a honeypot.Jesus (God) loves trans.
>>42745191>bisexual? fetish? like started with fapping to traps and transes then putting on frocks started to seem very alluring and thought of putting them on and getting fucked by a man gives you horny even though gay porn does nothing to you, eh?nta, but fuck yougod i hate being a male on estrogen
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>>42745191> isexual? fetish? like started with fapping to traps and transes then putting on frocks started to seem very alluring and thought of putting them on and getting fucked by a man gives you horny even though gay porn does nothing to you, eh?Not that nona, but its funny to me how I used to think like them. I think its why im envious or jealous of gay gay gay boys, that just always so obviously loved men and were gay. Types like that nona (and me) will just jerk off to thoughts of being a woman, unable to coom best otherwise for years, and make no connections what we are sexually aroused by may be part of our sexuality?? Heeheh like gayboys are jerking off to sweaty dudes plowing each other and just like naw dude i aint gay?
>>42745275Kekek cute owo!! OP needs to be FORCED
>>42745204I've talked to a therapist about it, we didn't go much of anywhere even after I was almost given hormones
>>42745450K then your perfect why you posting here?
>>42745468Because I want to get rid of the AGP and fap normal
>>42744472>how to get rid of agp>asks from a board of those who didn'ti guess some kind of monkmoding might work but yeah you'll never be satisfied sexually and lowering your testosterone is kinda a tranny solution too
>>42744472You should doll up really nice and go out to the club and let a strong man teach you how to get rid of it.
>>42744472the agp arousal response is a both a manifestation of dysphoria and a subconscious attempt at coping with it temporarily. Once you begin medical transition the dysphoria occurs less often and with it the agp arousal responselook, just ask yourself something: would you be empowered by becoming a woman, or would you be degraded?if the former, you're basically neurologically female and I recommend transition, at least hrt and manmoding. If the latter, you're a sissy fetishist and, yeah, you might want to curb that before you go a step or two beyond the point of no return
>>42745561what is wrong with youyou can't just say stuff like that
>>42745561Sounds hot in theory but again, if I can't be a 10 then it doesn't work. Also I'd rather have a vagina fox sex >>42745563It's more the later tbqh
>>42745522K then your not perfect why did you stop going to the therapist ? See how this is circular?
>>42745612I didn't stop, I just talk about more pressing matters
>>42745611>Also I'd rather have a vagina fox sexyeah its over for you sis, get that pussy you only have one life and you'll regret not even trying
>>42744472Thank you for Burnice butt, OP
>>42744472>How do I get rid of AGP?I know a simple medicine that can clear that right up :^)
>>42745664Marie Janae Kroc? oh come on. also dont try to get big... fat or muscle it feels icky.
>>42745611well, fuck itthrift a spinny skirt and blouse and get your girl on
>>42745563> in with the gaslighting and trying to confuse peopleI hate you people. Just fucking try to transition and if you dont like it stop. Its that simple. You dont just become a woman overnight and (besides to children) post puberty it can only do so much. You start today, and you have a year to see if you want to continue. Someone who really is a fetishist or whatever, their sex drive will crash from HRT and theyll want to stop because all it was was some contribution to a coom somehow and not their sexual identity, despite it being part of it due to what sexually gets them off. But you know, sometimes its two hard choices, you could be on some spectruum of trans, where the compulsion/obsession hell of AGP < the burden of transitioning? Makes no sense to me personally, but maybe thats you.
>>42745624>>42745677It's too cringe to even think about
>>42745664Only works while you let your E levels go out of control. The high T causes the body to produce high E. The two out of control causes all sorts of problems. But the dip in dysphoria is from the high E. If you keep it in check, youll still get thoughts, but theyll get more aggressively gay. Also when you cycle off youll really regret it. Dysphoria will hit hard.
>>42745563>would you be empowered by becoming a woman, or would you be degraded?if the former, you're basically neurologically female and I recommend transition, at least hrt and manmoding. If the latter, you're a sissy fetishist and, yeah, you might want to curb that before you go a step or two beyond the point of no returnYou can be both. Being a woman can fix what ails you in the rest of your life and also be a fetish you enjoy living. It's such puritan bullshit to tell people that they are transitioning for the wrong reasons if they sexually enjoy it. In my book, they are fine as long as it isn't the sole reason.
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