>>42865003
videorel is fucking deserved

>>42865003
all the man are either going homo, getting girls in other places, staying single or just trooning out

Trooning out is a part of MGTOW culture

>>42865003
trans girls, where's the streetwise hercules to fight the rising odds?

>>42865003
They are increasingly unemployed, undereducated, friendless, and posting misogyny and transphobia on this board to cope. Hoping for a draft so all the broccoli hairs who voted for Trump can get turned into red mist in Tehran

Plot twist: there were men, but none was 6 feet tall so they were invisible to the women.

>>42865003
modern dating is a humiliation ritual for 90% of men they were going to catch on eventually

>>42865003
I'm actually a tranny but I'm just putting myself in the guy's shoes here. If you are 99% of single men there is 0 reason for you to show up at a singles event because Chad will be there and take all the women for himself anyway. It's a total humiliation ritual for guys like me.

>>42867081
yeah it's like going outside and every woman expects you to ask them out and judges you accordingly, have fun with that

>>42867081

Wait but I was 6 foot tall as a guy but I still transitioned anyway... curious

>>42867081
In more grounded news: most men are busy doing other shit. Like>>42865761
Said.

>>42867112
Men have been doing this for forever. Modern “men” are just whiny entitled pissbabies who think getting rejected once means they will die alone. Plus “men” have been oneshotted by the algorithms and now act like fags and teenaged girls, constantly comparing themselves to every guy they see online and feeling insecure about it. Men are such nerfed cucks these days it’s unreal.

>>42867172
But are you single?

>>42867172
true but before women also needed to accept some man, now they can afford to be picky but this hasn't translated to helping out guys

>>42867081
yeah im a straight cis guy and im not even a total incel since ive had a girlfriend and a handful of hookups and shit but that "singles night" looks straight up nauseating. the women all look like they practically hate men and view you as a monkey or a jester put there to humor her while giving nothing in return. a humiliation ritual like they say.

>>42867172
>act with this level of hostility towards men
>be surprised they dont want to approach anymore
will women ever develop self awareness and a sense of accountability?

>>42867453
>crybully bullshit
There is far more hostility to women, particularly on this board. You are not a victim. You are an aggressive, useless, and whiny incel faggot who deserves every bit of vitriol thrown your way.

>>42867514
kek i think i fell for bait

>>42865003
There are no good men any more.

>men who don't date me are fags that need to die in war
Holy shit I'm so glad I'm a fag that can't get drafted.

>>42865003
Not on here, and maybe they are transing out

>>42865003
what they are leaving out of this video is that guys have to pay to get in.
singles events like this, just like at the club, women get in for free and expect men to buy them drinks while they are there.
i'm not about to pay anywhere from 50-200 bucks to flirt with girls who I know will jump on Chad's cock if he shows up.
it is a full on humiliation ritual for men now, genuinely.
women are starting to notice now but its too late.

>>42867114
based
>>42865761
yep. Let the afabs figure it out by themselves.
>>42867317
Yeah, but it made finding love for me as srsoid far easier.
Like,... all I have to do to keep my fiance happy is to just not be a gigacunt and be less argumentative. That's ~70%. The rest is regular sex (which I want anyway) and be a functional human.
The bar is in hell. Mogging cisfs as a tranny has never been easier.

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>>42865003
guess i should go to a singles event cus apparently its a goddamn seafood buffet. going to bars sucks cus they're always such sausagefests.
t. transbian

>>42866965
>there were men, but none was 6 feet tall so they were invisible to the women

How's the weather in Delhi?

>>42867172
"men judge men by the algorithm men"
And... Women don't.
Somehow.
It's actually men that are on social media more.
Right.
Aight.

>>42865761
>just trooning out

0.25% of society... sooo.... no gonna call bullshit on that one kid

>>42867081
Cis women like ftms though

>>42870677
cis lesbians do anyway

>>42865003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrV5of2p-oc
Dating is broken.
I've now seen it from both sides. For men it's become such an impersonal calculus where the odds are long and their own humanity is an unaffordable luxury.
For women it's become never ending dehumanizing unpaid labor where the rules are so convoluted and contradictory there is simply no way for it not to be our fault.

And through all of this silicon valley finds ever more disgusting ways to profit. Dating apps aren't meant to provide connection, they're meant to generate revenue, porn is now crowdsourced, and Ai fills the emotional gap because we just have no hope of finding each other.

I want to help, I want to hug you all and make you better, but the problem is so big and the people making it worse are so powerful, and I can barely function. I cry a lot.

>>42870848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCkyW7RE6Wk

Men got tired of being told they're nazis for being under 6' tall and incel rapists for having a problem with that

>>42870848
It is almost entirely the fault of women though, 95% of the women are going for the same 15% of the guys and even the bottom 5% of women won't swipe right on anyone in the bottom half of men

>>42871021
Who was actually telling you that tho?
Was it women you know who were talking to you face to face?
Or was it women you have never and will never meet on social media parroting things they heard on youtube?

>>42871057
If the leader of the progressive wing of the democratic party is saying it out loud on her official social media, to a chorus of agreement and affirmation, I can assure you most women are thinking it

>>42871039
And men swipe right on everything with long hair and a pulse.
When I'm getting 500 notifications a day, as 4/10 on a good day, what do you actually want me to do.

And then there's the bit you don't see, where 90% of those 15% of guys who actually get a girl to talk to them just jerk off into their hands and then don't want anything to do with me in the post-nut clarity.

Leaving 1.5% of guys who are actually willing and able to provide dick to me, AS LONG AS I attach zero conditions, because all they're offering is dick.

I understand how it looks from your perspective, like I said I've been there, but I'm telling you sweetheart the guys who are getting laid on dating apps aren't someone you want to be.

This system doesn't work.

More songs that sing how I feel about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQhLxlQdhy4

>>42871082
That is SOOOOO not true.
That is not how it works.
Most women are just dealing with what's in front of them hoping to squeeze a couple of moments of happiness before the last pieces of their soul are stripped from them, because we're not strong enough to stop it.

>>42871082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk

>>42866965
kek, and so the age of heightfraud began, just to squeeze through the door
>>42871039
They have overwhelming options, to be fair. Women can find a boyfriend pretty easily so they don't need to hunt. They can just check their balance and when they're like, "ahhh, could use another free dining experience", they can open up shop.

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>>42871146
who the fuck is "we"; you're a transwoman

>>42871191
>Women can find a boyfriend pretty easily so they don't need to hunt. They can just check their balance and when they're like, "ahhh, could use another free dining experience", they can open up shop.
Where do you even get this from?

The best dating app at this point is onlyfans, just because guys like you aren't capable of interacting with a woman you haven't paid for.

You don't have to pay for me, you just have to be nice to me and make me feel safe. The closest thing I have to a viable romantic option right now just sent me this message after cancelling on a first date last night.

>Hi Nona, Sorry about last night. I am married and live with my wife. There is no intimacy whatsoever ever for the last 10years. Ko kissing, no cuddling, nothing. She has a friend with benefits in Melbourne. So the only time I'll will be able to have someone to my place or go anywhere is when she is not home. It is not ideal and it makes me sad that I have to wait to see you. I think you are right for me and that you are a lovely person. I will understand if this is too complicated. I would still love to have a drink with you though and perhaps we can talk it over. Anon. kissy face kissy face kissy face

There was absolutely no offer of sex from me, it was a drink after work with the only perv who will even look at me. He doesn't know a fucking thing about me except I'm trans.

That's where I'm at, where the fuck are you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR3SThqlpNg

>>42871211
trans woman is two words chud.

>>42871211
For the record, this person is not me (the person complaining about being called a nazi for being short). Unlike this guy all I did wrong was to be born male

>>42871057
...Tell me you're not a man and you've never talked to a woman without telling me

>>42871270
Your dating experience is as a transwoman, not a woman.
There are hurdles you face and socialization you've been molded by that prevented you from becoming a soulless, cretinous adult female mercenary

>>42871270
>make me feel safe
this is woman for "be taller than me", women will literally date a serial killer if he's tall

>>42871278
Transwoman is separate from woman, sorry

You don't get to turn a category into a supercategory so you can squirm in

>>42871132
What I'm hearing is the 15% of guys either won't fuck you or won't form an emotional connection with you and neither is satisfying

I'd suggest winnowing down further in the pool, maybe? Try the next 15%, hon.
Lmao. I swipe(d) left on plenty of girls I didn't think were in my league. You could try that, I guess, if you're having too much trouble being lead on by the hottest men.

>>42865003
Guys will say "oh women just care about money" or whatever but thats not my experience.

I make ok money, government job, 70k but feels like 60k since a good portion of it is taken out for my pension, but still am pretty successful with women. Usually they seem to be impressed with how emotionally self aware I am, but it also helps that I take care of myself physically. I'm not tall either (around maybe 5'10 and a half).

I think men hear you have to be 6 foot by online fluencers on hoes on the beaches of California and assume all women are like that. You have to offer something as a man. I know I offer a hot body, emotional intelligence and just a general ability to signal i'm a good partner.

I have a hot tranny gf who seems quite smitten on the idea of becoming my hot tranny wife. This could be you too if you devoted the next 2-3 years on fixing your shit like I did.

>>42871300
I'm not a man.
But I tried really hard to be one.
And I remember what it was like to feel constantly attacked for just being male.

And it's still happening to me. TERFs are just feminists to me, that's how I've always been treated by feminists.

But now I actually to get to have female friends and yeah, no woman is parotting feminist talking points IRL. We bitch about men and dating a lot, but mostly because guys don't want to be boyfriends and husbands any more.

>>42871305
It's not tho.
It's literally identical.

>>42871312
NGL as a 6'0 ogrehon, a guy who actually taller than me feels really good to be around.
But there's plenty of ways to make a girl feel safe without being a navy seal.

Right now you're not making me feel safe, you're making me feel attacked, putting me on the defensive which is definitely not going to get me to spread cheeks for you.

>>42871315
Why are you even here?

>>42871317
>I'd suggest winnowing down further in the pool, maybe? Try the next 15%, hon.
How sweety? It's not there's a number next to your profile indicating your rank.
And lets face it, your dating profile is three generic pics and one sentence about how you're not looking for anything serious, just like literally every other guy.

On dating apps you all look and sound the same. If you're the right race and in the right age range, it really is just first come first serve.

Which obviously a fucking terrible system.

>>42871328
You realize the accusation being levied is that y'all've already subconsciously selected men according to these "talking points" (whatever tf they are), right?
So of course you don't have to talk about them.

But... Well, lowkey, my opinion is that everything is getting a bit worse all the time- Men's value keeps decreasing while women's value is... At least staying the same, more or less, increasing marginally (much more relatively, though)
And so when people fail to adjust their expectations... Relatively speaking, women see men "failing to step up" and men see their best "suddenly not being good enough"

Sure, plenty of people are still making it work and lucking into love but.. Y'know, the compounding effect of a few percent on every side from every category can be kind of sneaky. You end up having to settle, imo and right now it's the women who are going to be needing to make bigger strides in "settling" because it's the men who are less relatively capable of providing.

>>42871378
It was 5, including one (and only one) group shot to prove I have friends, me playing with cute animals and me diving in the pool (physical activity, shirtless, waow)
And if you see how I write here and think I settled with just one sentence about how I'm not looking for anything serious?
I'm a bit disappointed. Just because you don't appreciate the way what I say makes you feel doesn't call for being disingenuous.

If you can't get a feel for "if this man even messages me back it's for a pump and dump" without a number next to your name then that's just... Too bad, I guess. There has to be SOME guy willing to give you a real connection... And since you're the party in the equation with functionally limitless ability to connect with the other, I guess you'll just have to buckle down and put in some real effort to find someone who you can make feel romantic about you.

>>42871388
You read this >>42871270 right?
This guy is pushing 60, works part time as a security guard, is not at all attractive, and married to someone else.

AND I CAN'T EVEN GET HIM TO HAVE A DRINK WITH ME!

Settling at this point means getting a cat or saving up for a male sexbot when they finally happen. And there you are, clearly willing to date trans women, complaining that you can't get a date either.

It's neither of our fault, the system is fucked.

>You realize the accusation being levied is that y'all've already subconsciously selected men according to these "talking points" (whatever tf they are), right?
I fought the memewar for Trump in 2016, the TV lies to you, that's all it does.

>>42871432
>If you can't get a feel for "if this man even messages me back it's for a pump and dump" without a number next to your name then that's just... Too bad, I guess.
Nobody can.
Make a female profile, there's youtube vids about guys who did it.
>There has to be SOME guy willing to give you a real connection
I would assume so, but I'm not going to find them on a dating app.
> I guess you'll just have to buckle down and put in some real effort to find someone who you can make feel romantic about you.
I put 3 months of full time work into. I'm talking 10 hours a day, 5 guys at a time, the queue of "potential matches" never went below 99+. And out of that I got TWO dates, one of whom stood me up, the other was actually brain damaged and had no interest in me IRL.

They jerk off, they cum, they never talk to me again. It's onlyfans, but I'm doing it for free.

>>42871439
>I fought the memewar for Trump in 2016, the TV lies to you, that's all it does.
nta but based. I did too. 2yrs later I met my fiance, then got srs.
Sorry to read you were less lucky :(

>>42871510
Thanks nona. I'm glad it worked out for you.
Although
>Fiance
That's an 8 year engagement sweetheart. At what point are actually going to get married?

>>42871484
>I put 3 months of full time work into. I'm talking 10 hours a day, 5 guys at a time, the queue of "potential matches" never went below 99+. And out of that I got TWO dates, one of whom stood me up, the other was actually brain damaged and had no interest in me IRL.

Oh, so you're genuinely unfuckable, yeah.
Shouldn't you just pick genuinely unfuckable men and looksmatch or whatever the fuck it's called then?

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>>42871529
The only guys I swiped left on were guys who were too young, and indians.

My type is chubby autistic dudes. As long as you're not like a burn victim or cerebral palsy or something, I really don't care what you look like as long as you're nice to me.
Female sexuality doesn't work the way yours does. It's not visual, it's about the way you make us feel.

And 99.9% of guys on dating apps make me feel like I should be paid to be on dating apps.

Picture unrelated I just want to break up the thread of text.

>>42871528
>At what point are actually going to get married?
In about 3 months.
Srs, Pandemic restrictions, his father's long suffering, then some economic troubles... kept postponing the event itself. We've been living together since 2019. We're buying a house so we need the legal marriage too.
Basically, life happened and we focused on that.

>>42871591
All the best on the big day then. I hope I get that one day but I doubt I will.

>>42871588
>her type is a low demand phenotype
>female sexuality doesn't work the way yours does, it's about the way you make us feel
>still swiped on every guy, despite having hundreds of matches

...Have you considered that you might be dumb?
Not as an insult I just
I think that maybe you got confused somewhere without realizing it

>>42871613
Drop those goddamn apps (never used them myself) and go the old fashioned way. You said you already socialize with cisfs, so just go by mutual friend route. That's how I met all the guys I've been with.

>>42871686
What am I supposed to do?
Are you not listening, all your dating profiles are the same, because you've all been convinced that the real you is completely undatable so you strip everything that make you you from your only profile leaving behind the most generic nothingburger profiles possible.

So what can I do? I just take you 5 at a time, which is the limit of what I can handle mentally, and talk to you until you stop talking to me. Which takes about an hour.

>>42871714
That doesn't exist above a certain age.
All of my female friends (cis or trans doesn't matter) are either married and their male friends are also married, or in the same boat as me, though most of them are divorced with a kid or two to keep them occupied.

I have tried really hard to build a life over the last 12 months where I have a social circle and stuff, and the only guys who are talking to me are married and want me as a side chick, and most of those are bottom chasers.

>>42871725
Swipe on the chubby autists with nerd interests in their profile so you get some fuckin loser with 0 matches on the hook.
Are you even listening?
There are seriously zero fatsos?
Nobody talked about liking boardgames or 3D printing?
It's not your fault because you're a unicorn and everyone should get over the way the rest of the foids act so you can have your niche special interest validated?

Well, I do actually expect you to answer yes to the third one, but still.

>>42871439
>Settling at this point means getting a cat or saving up for a male sexbot when they finally happen
Honestly I think the solution to the problem everyone is facing is just sexbots. Women can have their robo Morning Glory minotaur husbando that'll hold their hand and go on long walks on the beach, men can have their robo Monster Mesume holstaurus waifu with tits bigger than her head and will cheerfully go on fishing trips with them, and the world will finally be happy.
I think it's pretty clear that human relationships in the modern era are just FUBAR, no matter your gender. You either found the love of your life pre 2010, or you just gotta wait for sexbots. Shit's fucked, no use trying to fix it.

>>42871939
>You either found the love of your life pre 2010, or you just gotta wait for sexbots
Nonsense. Most people still do find partners today.
Btw, single women keep other women single. Social circle matters a lot more than you're giving it credit for.

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>>42871849
There are two things about chubby autists with nerd interests.
Firstly, they don't put that they're chubby autists with nerd interests on their dating profile. Because they believe, with good reason, that chubby autists with nerd interests don't get laid on dating sites.
>Nobody talked about liking boardgames or 3D printing?
No. Like I said, it's all one paragraph, if that, about how they're not looking for anything serious but are open to possibilities. That's ALL the profiles.

The second thing about chubby autists with nerd interests is they not on dating sites because they've all figured out they have no chance of ever getting laid on dating sites.
see: this thread

>It's not your fault because you're a unicorn and everyone should get over the way the rest of the foids act so you can have your niche special interest validated?
I don't know what this means. What i know is that the only thing that's actually available to women on dating sites are the pro-level soulless fuckboys, not because there's not a bunch of great guys who are desperate for and deserve love an intimacy from someone, but the system DOES NOT WORK.

Stop blaming women, start blaming silicon valley.

>>42871939
No I think the solution when you're seriously thinking like that is to start blowing shit up until the powers that be figure out there's a fucking problem.

Which is actually happening already and nobody is getting the fucking message. Picrel.

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>>42872031
>No I think the solution when you're seriously thinking like that is to start blowing shit up until the powers that be figure out there's a fucking problem.
Literally what can they even do? Even in countries that have acknowledged it's a problem have zero ways of dealing with it. Government mandated girlfriends/boyfriends? If they're getting to THAT level of desperation, I honestly, unironically think sexbots are just the better option. Who tf are you gonna force to fuck in your picrel?

>>42872212
Step 1: actually give a fuck. Stop calling you an incel and treating you like a problem to be solved, stop treating me like a debate topic they pull out to avoid doing any real work. Actually give a fuck about the health and happiness of young people.

Step 2: Fund social programs and mental health services for men. Actually get men resocialized and create spaces where men and women can meet. That's where this whole thread started remember, women are showing up to singles nights and there are NO men there.

Step 3: END THE FUCKING GENDER WAR ALREADY. At the point where it's got an actual measurable body count, it's time to make peace.

Step 4: Roll first cavalry division into San Fransisco and just start blasting. Flatten the entire fucking place and kill every psychopath in it. Nationalize the entire nasdaq and start again with clear and comprehensive laws about what can and can't be monetized.

I'm kind but I'm not attractive and I don't care about money or make a lot if it. Girls wants one or both of these things. I can't change my looks and I don't want someone to be with me just for money. Women don't understand how soul crushing it is for a man trying to find someone.

>>42872305
In a more perfect world...

>>42872031
>Stop blaming women, start blaming silicon valley.
So don't blame the people who are making conscious decisions to sleep with only the most attractive people and value nothing else, blame the companies that gave them the tools to maximize slut efficiency?

>>42872351
Why aren't you listening?
There are TWO choices for women on modern dating sites.
1. Soulless fuckboys who will never offer anything more than sex. And these guys are not attractive btw, all you really need to be these guys is be clean, and have the ability to host on short notice. I will bet money you do not have the latter. It got nothing to do with how you look and everything to do with the fact you can't take yes for an answer.
2. Time wasting jerk-offs. Guys who chat to you just long enough to cum in their hands, and then in PNC realize they don't really want a girlfriend any more, they want to watch TV and order doordash.

It never has and never will connect you to me in a meaningful way.

And women do not have other options. Everything is dating apps now. There is no other way to meet guys, because guys aren't in public spaces any more.

>>42872031
>I don't know what this means

It means
>Firstly
and
>The second thing

>>42872305
>get men resocialized
Oh boy, it's the men's fault again that they don't want to pay through the nose to get lambasted at singles' night again despite the disappearing wage gap

Singles events are for losers lol.

>>42867172
this, being raised by women tends to make you act and think like one

>>42872390
>There is no other way to meet guys, because guys aren't in public spaces any more.
The other side has been claiming girls aren't in public spaces any more. How do we solve this, chat? It can't be as simple as mandatory grass touching every Saturday afternoon at the local park and community center, right?

>women go to singles night knowing that nothing is expected from them and it is the man's responsibility to hit on them and likely get rejected
>a greater number of men than women decide they don't want to go to this event
>surprisedpikachu.jpg

>>42872396
Sorry sweety I don't understand what you're trying to say?
Are you trying to say I'm special? Because I'm not really, I just have the memories of a 40 year old virgin and the emotional maturity of a 16 year old girl.
There are lots of great girls around, to be fair a lot of them have been traumatized because silicon valley has fucked them up in a lot more ways than just dating apps, but they're healthy, and they're present, and they're available. I'm more elloquent than they are, that's kind of my autistic superpower, but they're still good girls who are just as much a victim of corpo bullshit as you are.

Remember mobile phones and social media aren't optional for women these days. If you want to have a job, if you want to have a life, you need to be hooked in to a system that is profiting from your misery.

>>42872390
>because guys aren't in public spaces any more.
Ok reading through this thread I'm gonna give you a really hot tip

Look up the nearest lan cafe, boardgame shop or gaming center
Maybe look up if they have any specific events, boardgame nights, that kind of thing.

Then you can just kind of... Show up and do your thing. Work the crowd.
There's the secret. That's your angle. These places are total sausage fests, populated primarily by single men with jobs. I go to three different ones at least semi-regularly. 90% of the time the only girl there is working behind the counter or (rarely) already someone's girlfriend and hanging around pouting because she's not a fuckin gamer, she just likes sucking one's dick.
And they are always happy to see a girl. We are always wildly interested to meet a nice lady, you will have a rotating parade of chubby autists

>>42866963
The best we're going to get has already come, and it's mostly a chud subsidy in the form of ice where they ironically make friends with a mexican man for the first time while arresting internet shitlords who use the wrong red flag aesthetics and random brown people, that and developing an i.d. database in the bluest areas of the country in case robbing polling locations doesnt work out so good

>>42872338
In a perfect world, men like me would not exist

>>42872405
NOT AT ALL.
It's society's fault, and honestly I will say that feminism actually deserves a pretty big chunk of the blame, for discarding men and ignoring men's problems, or even outright treating the discussion of mens issues with hostility, for the last 20-30 years.

And it again, silicon valley, who have done everything they can to keep you in front of a screen your every waking moment.

And I'll even throw in LGBTQIA+ for not recognizing the marginalization of the neurodivergent, and even punishing them for being so.

>>42872428
>The other side has been claiming girls aren't in public spaces any more.
I didn't know there was an "other side" but I have never seen this claimed.

>>42872435
You made plenty of hoopla about how accurate men were that nobody will fuck chubby autists with nerd interests on dating sites and they know it.

I mean clearly you WOULD fuck them.
Right? They're just totally not there.
The same way there are "no (wo)men in public spaces"
Or are you really going to claim that The System has progressed beyond mere algorithmic matchrate/demographic filtering and they're now screening fatties to make sure they never ever ever ever get shown to anyone they ever swipe on (or haven't seen yet), that anyone who writes "building models" in their bio is banned to the shadowpool where they're only shown fake profiles of Russian prostitutes?

>>42872451
>see this, ladies and jews? feminism and jewism leads to ICE
This reality is hilarious

>>42867172
I think the biggest prize we've won is how absolutely wretched most men are at talking. it sickens me how smooth and charismatic some seventy year old men are, because i know something in the last 50 years has been stolen from us and we just don't get as many people who can really sweet talk or dissemble without sounding autistic or narcissistic

>>42872460
>I didn't know there was an "other side" but I have never seen this claimed.
of course, you're not a man, we have mostly different filter bubbles, although you being trans leads you to touch ours a lot more than cis women (until recently with the rise of femcel-like stuff)

>>42872460
>NOT AT ALL
Alright, well I still wanna be mad...
How come you're not dating me, personally, huh? You got something against 32 year old losers?

>>42872437
Yeah I actually do know that one.
I've tried, and I just wind up sitting there alone waiting for someone to talk to me, and unless I actually know someone that doesn't happen, eventually I can't take the awkwardness and leave.

But yeah that's a good idea, I just need a better plan when I'm actually there.

>>42872460
this is (chaser)bait

>>42872460
It's being constantly claimed at every level.
Even non-incel men just kvetching bitch about how women go to work, go home and scroll tiktoks and they don't want to be rape-accused for trying to approach someone in the grocery store or at the park or whatever.

>>42872483
>ey bb, lemme sexually assault you a bit ;) Those pickles right there? You've got the right taste in size, wink-wink nudge-nudge

>>42872476
>I just wind up sitting there alone waiting for someone to talk to me
...If you were a man you would know that it would be wrong to approach a woman in a traditionally male hobby space because obviously she's there to enjoy herself and doesn't want to be bothered and you'd be a sexpest for invading her personal time just because you like talking to girls

>But yeah that's a good idea, I just need a better plan when I'm actually there.
...Yeah you do. lmao

>>42871378
>pff, dating as a transwoman is identical to how women date in all ways
>btw, I'm an ogrehon

So it's even MORE WEIRD for you, nowhere identical

Trannies have to deal with their own identity causing a caste of males chasing them for traits they don't want to be chased for, yet are the only vector to affection

>>42872492
to be fair, that's why it would be beneficial if the places had some shame-free mechanism of getting the free electrons paired up in welcoming groups, whether those are newcomer-dominated, or with a core of people with enough social skills to keep things fun

>>42872461
I'm still not sure what you're trying to get at.
I'm saying the system is designed to profit misery.
And I'm telling you how it makes me miserable, so you can put how it's making you miserable into context.

>>42872470
Your filter bubble is not a public space.
The cafes, the shops, the parks, they don't have single guys in them. They have married couples with kids and single women connecting with each other because there's no men around.

>>42872471
>You got something against 32 year old losers?
No in fact I think I'd really like to date you.
But we're both posting anonymously on 4chan, almost certainly from other sides of the planet. It's absolutely amazing that we've got this forum to talk to each other and share our experiences, but that's it, that's the limit of what 4chan can give us.

>>42872517
>Your filter bubble is not a public space.
I'm not sure what you mean here.
>The cafes, the shops, the parks, they don't have single guys in them. They have married couples with kids and single women connecting with each other because there's no men around.
For men it's that plus single men not connecting for the obvious reasons, thus they have no reason to be the weird alone guy outside that does't seem to have a non-suspicious reason to be out and alone on that there bench.
>I'm saying the system is designed to profit misery.
>And I'm telling you how it makes me miserable,
Now you're speaking my love language.
>>42872471
>>42872517
>No in fact I think I'd really like to date you.
>But we're both posting anonymously on 4chan, almost certainly from other sides of the planet.
also if you two retards don't post rough geographic location, I'm literally coming over and putting both of you in the gas chamber
>It's absolutely amazing that we've got this forum to talk to each other and share our experiences, but that's it, that's the limit of what 4chan can give us.
found my ex here, ftr, and she was the woman I've connected with the deepest in all my life

>>42872492
>If you were a man you would know that it would be wrong to approach a woman in a traditionally male hobby space because obviously she's there to enjoy herself and doesn't want to be bothered and you'd be a sexpest for invading her personal time just because you like talking to girls
I know! I pretended to be a heterosexual man for 20 years. I actually do know.

I just don't know what to do about it.

Maybe I'll get a boobshirt printed with "single, please approach me" written on it.
Although lets face it you guys would straight up assume that's a trap.

>>42872496
>Trannies have to deal with their own identity causing a caste of males chasing them for traits they don't want to be chased for
Actually that's the universal female experience. I actually pointed this out to some of the girls at work, what I said was "a lot of guys are only interested in what's between my legs" meaning my penis, as in they're only interested in me because I'm trans. And they came back that that's how it is for everyone, meaning for them guys are only interested in getting into their pants.

You'd think it's different, it isn't. All women experience objectification, trans or cis it's just a part of life.

>>42872507
That's what I was saying here >>42872305

>>42872305
>Step 3: END THE FUCKING GENDER WAR ALREADY
that's antisemitic and misogynistic tyvm

>>42872541
>For men it's that plus single men not connecting for the obvious reasons, thus they have no reason to be the weird alone guy outside that does't seem to have a non-suspicious reason to be out and alone on that there bench.
Yeah that's basically what I'm saying. Men have been driven from public spaces, and guys like you in particular have just become digital creatures.

But I need to be touched. It's actually really fucking me up that I've haven't been touched romantically in nearly a year.
>also if you two retards don't post rough geographic location
Honestly I don't need to to know there's zero chance of ever being in the same room together, and prove it I'll tell you.
Regional Australia.

>>42872559
>that's antisemitic
and?

>>42872547
>Although lets face it you guys would straight up assume that's a trap.
would you blame them?
>>42872547
>I just don't know what to do about it.
I'd offer a few guillotines at the right places (and the threat of more if the boards of directors keep externalizing dem social costs), but as fedposters know, the proles always get hooked into targeting the wrong people
>>42872579
After the usual chatgpt discussion veered into me telling it I want to stop existing, it was pretty neat to see that besides the usual ADL-quoting studies on incels, you kangaroo people (unlike the bongs) actually have someone in govt with the political balls to actually be intellectually honest about the whole thing:
https://www.esafety.gov.au/newsroom/blogs/a-way-forward-disrupting-the-darker-forces-impacting-young-men-online
misleading title, but some selected quotes
>But this is where we, as a society, are failing them – most especially in the online world.

>we took an audience-first approach and set out to investigate young men’s unique online experiences, including how they form and express their identities online.
>These two reports powerfully reinforce that there’s a paucity of positive, healthy online examples for young men and boys to follow. Even as they actively seek out validation, connection, and opportunities to explore and take risks, theirs is a world dominated by voices telling them who not to be, rather than who they can aspire to be. In the words of one practitioner: "All society is telling [young men] is this: be better, don’t harm, don’t do this, don’t do that."
>This deficit model is allowing a small but potent number of harmful voices to dominate online conversations about masculinity. As observed by another practitioner: "Much of the online content plays to fairly foundational needs around belonging and creating a sense of self
So there may be hope for the next generation.

also
>>42872572
>But I need to be touched. It's actually really fucking me up that I've haven't been touched romantically in nearly a year.
Yep, us men aren't doing too hot either, even with our stoic touch-starvation-reducing macho man 10x T levels.
By the way, since you're in Straya and that tends to have some cultural exchange with the bongs, I do know they had men's sheds that became quite the movement about exactly getting men to reconnect out there in the real world they've been driven out from. And, I recently saw a report on women naturally starting to enter those places (with the corresponding hilarious or sad quips, depending on your perspective). Are there similar, more connected places in Australia? A board game place will be closer to a semi-atomized cafe (unlike the original coffee houses on the mainland back in the day), but a man shed or any other place created specifically to reconnect disconnected people, and keep a small tight-knit community, might be exactly the kind of place where you can enter and make connections. And this is for the same purpose as the usual advice we give to men - form social connections first, then it's easier to end up getting connected to someone compatible. Now if you're not stealth, that gets trickier, but I have this idealistic hope that there's some LGBT places that aren't as toxic as the usual ones, that might help on that front.

>>42872617
>would you blame them?
If you haven't figured it out yet, the answer to this question is always no.
>I'd offer a few guillotines at the right places (and the threat of more if the boards of directors keep externalizing dem social costs), but as fedposters know, the proles always get hooked into targeting the wrong people
I can't even guess what this means. That is some nice prose tho.
>you kangaroo people (unlike the bongs)
Yeah so I guess it's a cultural thing that we get a bit blunt about stuff, and that actually lends itself to academic rigor pretty well. And there's been two political forces that have weirdly allied on this stuff.

The first is Pauline Hanson and the One Nation Party, this is far right party, anti-immigrant, unfortunately transphobic, but very very pro-male, in particular pro-men in regional areas. She won't let male suicide statistics be forgotten, she is constantly fighting for family law reform, she has been openly critical of the two major parties approach to mental health, and also the slow strangulation of traditional australian pub culture through onerous taxation.

The second was the Mental Health and Wellbeing commission in Victoria, which is the exact opposite of the redheaded racist from Queensland. But it very much recognized, and in fact legislated, the the "bootstraps" method of mental health and wellbeing is fucking retarded and you can't make people suffering from mental illness and addiction responsible for solving mental illness and addiction.

So things are getting better here, but very slowly. And thanks for link.

>>42872507
Ya, so go to the event nights where you'll get shoved into a group.
I mean you can just loiter too, I watched a fairly pretty girl talk to almost two entire guys over the course of 8 hours when she showed up to the big multi-game tournament day.

She could've gotten into a group and quintupled that number in an hour but she seemed to think that she should post up on the couch and brood instead- So of course only the most socially inept, personal space invading stinky boy spergs got up and half-spit in her face trying to talk to her the whole time.

It was bad enough that a few of the buffer guys were lowkey subconsciously tacitly ensuring someone (either an employee or friends with the owner) was in visual range when a guy would go over, thinking back on it.

>>42872572
>Regional Australia
Oh that's so cool, I've always wanted to visit Austra- I've always liked Australia! I always say "Australia and Texas are like sister country" when I talk to my Australian mates, drives em up the wall!

Anyways, it's might nice in Texas round this time of year. Just startin to warm up, we'll be gettin rain soon.

>>42872655
SOOOOOOO that's actually a lot to unpack.
>mens shed
Were great, until the feminists found out about them in the late 2000s and very nearly destroyed them, while also taking over the male focused suicide charities, resulting in a 300% increase in male suicides by the end of the 2010s (and that trend has gotten worse since).
BUT, the feminists have now been told to fuck right off on that one, which is obviously very very welcome.
However I can't go into those spaces. That's not for me.

There is a board game place in my town. I want to see if that's a good place for me to meet guys, but also I am afraid to go outside most days. I'm going to try tho.

> some LGBT places that aren't as toxic as the usual ones,
I would absolutely love to have some good news here. But my local pride group is chaired by a theyfab who is absolutely self-obsessed and is running the thing into the ground. Meanwhile wrongthink is heavily policed, it's not at all neurosafe despite the fact that a good 50% of members have some form of neurodivergence, and I'm seriously struggling to tell myself there's a future there for people like me.

Meanwhile of course it's all focused on melbourne which is the problems I'm having where I live dialed up to 11.

I am trying to fix these problems but I'm weak.

>>42872709
Rain would be nice. We're in a dought. Look forward to hearing about bushfires around Christmas next year. They're going to be fucking huge.

>>42872710
>until the feminists found out about them
>while also taking over the male focused suicide charities
>resulting in a 300% increase in male suicides by the end of the 2010s
It's so dire I loop right past "It's too awful to laugh at" and right back to laughing at it.

>>42872665
>I can't even guess what this means.
Social and old media corps that don't act responsibly. Various other interest groups that introduce tools that make things generally worse too (super PACs, citizens united etc)
>>42872665
>unfortunately transphobic
I do wonder if we can capture some of their target base by showing them all the trans women that are sympathetic to men exactly because they have experienced similar pressures to them (TERFs using anti-man rhetoric against them, similar dating and socialization nerf, etc), especially since many think that all LGBTs are all SJWs. Ditto on the immigrant front, since not all immigrants behave the same, and often enough TPTB shaft the poors and the immigrants along the same lines.
In the US, their FPTP system naturally produces the SJW+immigrant+LGBT vs Anti-abortion + temporarily embarrassed millionaire false dichotomy, but you folk had a proportional system, right? Hopefully that's producing some more nuanced parties that don't unnecessarily divide people.
>But it very much recognized, and in fact legislated, the the "bootstraps" method of mental health and wellbeing is fucking retarded and you can't make people suffering from mental illness and addiction responsible for solving mental illness and addiction.
A wiser land than my current one (the Netherlands). Warms my heart.
>>42872687
>She could've gotten into a group
damn normgroids...
My niggy you know if you're sperg enough (and women are naturally 10x spaghetti as men, despite what their bitch shield might mislead you to think), you'll feel pretty damn uncomfortable in an already-formed group where most people know each other and you're the outsider, doubly so if there's no other actually-safe girl to be your social safety blanket until you can integrate
>It was bad enough that
Yeah makes sense. Might help (if possible) to have designated whamen in at least an intro group to get things rolling.

>>42872723
I'm just numb I think.
Like I said it's starting to get better, but the 2010s were just national sociopathy when it came to men's problems. The first doctor I went to to get help for gender dysphoria, Louise Manning in Bendigo, outed me and then called the cops because she felt intimidated by the mentally ill man looking for treatment for mental illness.

It's still bad, but at least it's moving in the right direction, albeit slowly.

>42872709
>42872714
>tfw imagining a romcom scenario where the younguns end up meeting each other and bonding over the shared climate
I've gotta hit the gym or summin, my E levels might be a bit high

>>42872730
>I do wonder if we can capture some of their target base by showing them all the trans women that are sympathetic to men exactly because they have experienced similar pressures to them
Wonder no longer, it works.
A 10 minute conversation with a trans woman ends transphobia.
A 10 minute conversation with a TERF ends feminism.
In my experience being genuinely kind and compassionate towards men has a 100% success rate in reducing hostility to trans women.

I thought the netherlands was supposed to be good on that stuff tho?

>>42872730
I mean
If men aren't allowed to approach women
And women can't approach men
Apparently government mandated gfs ARE our only answer

The calculus here is "guaranteed social (or worse) persecution" vs "Maybe she's anxious about meeting new people"
it is what it is
people- men -are going to give you your space
You either approach some directly or get pared off into a group with "an excuse"
I think I'd start looking for a shotgun to suckstart if a girl came in and went up to the desk "Ummmm, do you have a girl you can put in my Adventurer's League group? I don't feel safe with a group of 6 strange men in this brightly lit public room with 80 people and fully open sightlines in it"

What a vast and keening deathknell, sounding the bell that men are dangerous foul creatures who should never be allowed near women without supervision.

If I hear someone say "pornsick" I'm gonna really do it this time /s

>>42872750
>tfw no qt Australian shawty gf to complain about it being hot as balls with
>"Hwell... At least thar's no turnadurs around here..."
>"D'ya fackin mean tore-nay-does, mate? Are you fuckin alright??"

Nah, don't worry about the E, that one's got me by the heartstrings too. That's peak masculine romance right there.

>>42872781
Please don't do it.
>You either approach some directly or get pared off into a group with "an excuse"
You're presenting this idea like it's some tyranical sci fi dystopia.
They're called singles mixers. The ladies are upset that you never show up.

>>42872761
>it works.
That's been my experience too, if a bit second-hand.
>I thought the netherlands was supposed to be good on that stuff tho?
In general the government/healthcare stuff has been leaning more American over the past few decades apparently, and it ended up expecting the uninformed/weak to be informed/strong self-advocates to be able to get help.

>>42872710
>Were great, until the feminists found out about them in the late 2000s and very nearly destroyed them, while also taking over the male focused suicide charities, resulting in a 300% increase in male suicides by the end of the 2010s (and that trend has gotten worse since).
Oh yeah I remember they managed to get the male DV victim shelter guy in Canada to kill himself, lovely bunch as usual
>BUT, the feminists have now been told to fuck right off on that one, which is obviously very very welcome.
phew, positive things can happen
>However I can't go into those spaces. That's not for me.
I suppose if there's a shared interest (physical tinkering or w/e) and one that already has a few broads in it, but otherwise I can see it being a nogo, doubly so with the trans nerf on top of that.
>I want to see if that's a good place for me to meet guys, but also I am afraid to go outside most days. I'm going to try tho.
good luck nona, I'll be rooting for you. Go for making friends first ig, but whatever works. Got any IRL peeps that can go there with you?
>But my local pride group
oof... stay safe, sucks to be in an adversarial environment. Hoping some of the folks splinter into a safer place.
>Meanwhile of course it's all focused on melbourne which is the problems I'm having where I live dialed up to 11.
What do you mean?
>I am trying to fix these problems but I'm weak.
Focus on yourself first, you're already playing on harder mode than most people.

All the younger dudes I go on dates with are fucking insane with their retarded political takes and intermaxxing shit. It's so tiring, I just want to find some cute young guy to spoil rotten but they're just plain rotten already.

>>42872806
>What do you mean?
Melbourne is the most authoritarian left shithole on earth.
The rest of Australia jokingly refers to it as the socialist republic of Melbourne.
>Focus on yourself first, you're already playing on harder mode than most people.
Yeah thanks, but it's kinda chicken and the egg (which is true of so many trans problems). Like I have to find social connection in order to be healthy enough to build the spaces where I can find social connection.

And I keep blowing up my life.
I cry a lot.

>>42872781
>If men aren't allowed to approach women
radfems are deeply broken (or worse) people, we shouldn't be entertaining them but getting them proper social-circle (non jewshrink big pharma pill type) help for their issues, that social circle including mainly women of varying ages in healthy relationships
men should approach women, and should be taught how to do it in a non-threatening way. sperg remediation courses done in a non-shameful (anonymous if needed) way should be common
those few women should have the dumbitch slapped out of them when they start talking about "well he should've tried harder ofc i say no"
>I think I'd start looking for a shotgun to suckstart if a girl came in and went up to the desk "Ummmm, do you have a girl you can put in my Adventurer's League group? I don't feel safe with a group of 6 strange men in this brightly lit public room with 80 people and fully open sightlines in it"
my bad, I should've clarified. I didn't mean "safe from the rape apes", I meant socially uncomfortable in the way a (socially sensitive, not socially numb) sperg might be in a new group that might form a bad opinion due to a social faux pas and result in bad social consequences

>>42872822
same thing rots both groups tbhonky (and to put my tinfoil hat on, benefits from it), it's why I jokingly fedposted about those guillotines

>>42872801
It's called D&D night. You're not gonna get raped over a disagreement about loot (unless you ask very nicely and supply a safeword to everyone at the afterparty)

The calculus remains as it was for the mixers. Now we're comparing, again, a vast and unfeeling crowd of shrewd harpies expecting free drinks while pathetic men are made to dance for their amusement and a handful of males politely waiting to speak until spoken to, segregated into nice and socially destigmatizing groups.

I- You know what, yeah.
Point out the singles mixer that will attach me to a group of five women of my choice, all demurely hoping to win my attention and favor- And sure, the dynamic's not that stark in either direction but I think the relative difference is still there, no?

>>42872832
>might be in a new group that might form a bad opinion due to a social faux pas and result in bad social consequences

have u considered that u'll die of embarrassment if that happens so u don't have to worry? (bcos u'll be ded) (of the embarrassment, u see)

>>42872832
>sperg remediation courses done in a non-shameful (anonymous if needed) way should be common
Love it.
Resocializing 4chan arseholes has no downside for anyone, except the media who will lose a whole bunch of cheap content talking shit about you.

As much as trans inclusion is obviously a big deal for me. Neurodivergent inclusion is an even bigger deal. I see the way autistic people are marginalized and discarded unless someone pays for them to be in a program or something, and that's not okay. That's really not okay.
I'm autistic myself, I know how hard it is to negotiate normielife, and how easy it is to just not. That needs to change. It's not fair and it's not right, and it annoys me that I'm the only one saying that.

>>42872827
I feel you on that particular chicken and egg (for different reasons in my case).
How do you keep blowing up your life?
>I cry a lot.
The Texas-Australia wormhole can't come soon enough.

>>42872838
>Now we're comparing, again, a vast and unfeeling crowd of shrewd harpies expecting free drinks while pathetic men are made to dance for their amusement and a handful of males politely waiting to speak until spoken to, segregated into nice and socially destigmatizing groups.
So you're actually describing ladies night, not a singles mixer.
A singles mixer is a lot more egalitarian. They just don't really exist any more because dating apps killed IRL.

>Point out the singles mixer that will attach me to a group of five women of my choice, all demurely hoping to win my attention and favor- And sure, the dynamic's not that stark in either direction but I think the relative difference is still there, no?
Right so you're obviously pretty damaged, my heart goes out to you, whatever your trauma is I'm sorry that happened to you.

But at the same time, governments funding programs targetted at single people to get them in a shared and supervised space where the safety and comfort of all is guaranteed, is a good idea.

We are relying on silicon valley to solve a problem that they have made hundreds of billions of dollars from causing.

>>42872867
>How do you keep blowing up your life?
I DON'T KNOW!!!
I just need to be not in charge of myself. I'm bad at it.

>>42872860
Assholes too, but even those that are shy scaredycats but due to inexperience still manage to weird out some girl that would've been perfect for them and vice versa. There's too many folks out there that didn't get the right environment to hone those skills enough.
>Trans and ND inclusion
As a side note, both groups having at least some overlap in the difficulties they face makes it so heartwarming when I see folks out there suddenly unlocking empathy for each other when they resonate over some common experiences.
As for general ND inclusion, amen. Hell, I wouldn't mind having a tard wrangler for myself at certain moments even - so much can be improved as long as there's someone to help interface when we're on a different wavelength, to just be there for us in those trickier moments to offer a healthier reaction, to offer an understanding safe haven.
>>42872892
Ah crud sorry, I phrased it in a way that can also read like "why do you keep blowing up your life woman, just stop doing it".
I meant more like if you have some recent or memorable example that isn't too painful to share - e.g. if it's difficulties with bureaucracy and organization, social snafus, troubles at work or with family, etc.

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Crazy amounts of fat bitches posting itt rn

>>42865003
Away from you.

>>42872922
>As for general ND inclusion, amen. Hell, I wouldn't mind having a tard wrangler for myself at certain moments even
There's an autistic guy at my work who is part of some program, he has trouble controlling his volume. And I see the way people guilt him for it, as tho he's doing it on purpose, and I wish I was braver so I could stand up for him and explain what's really going on. Every time I signal him to lower the volume he does, like every time, that's all he needs. But instead of that he gets the guilt trip.

And I can tell he's starting to just not talk to anyone. And he's at an age where those sorts of behavioural patterns are becoming permanent, and I literally want to tear my heart out and throw it at someone.

>I meant more like if you have some recent or memorable example that isn't too painful to share
So autistic guy at my work is well under half my age, and I asked him out on valentines day like a fucking pedophile. Now he's not talking to me either.

Just fucking shoot me.

Is there a problem with men choosing not to date? I feel like if a woman said "I'm prioritising myself and my platonic relationships with other women" eveeybody wouls be fine with it? All this 'men are failing to be sufficiently heterosexual' stuff to be pretty patriarchal.

>>42872978
*all this stuff seems patriarchal, fucking dyspraxic retard

>>42872978
>I'm prioritising myself and my platonic relationships with other women
I feel like you're not really fine with women taking this sort of attitude while you're dying of loneliness.

>>42872867
>The Texas-Australia wormhole can't come soon enough.
How do you say? "Love you too, nonny"
Texas and Australia, best friends forever

>>42872972
>volume stuff
Ah, I know a few lads that do a mild version of that (as in, rarely enough), some normie but some a bit on the spectrum. You've got a heart of gold, lass.
>asked him out
Hey you shot your shot, you're braver than most women out there. Also the age gap thing is more about life stages (as long as he's >18 ig*)
Bleh that does suck though. Just keep it neutral but open for interaction if he initiates in case at least a friendship is possible, although I know how it's way easier said than done.

>>42872978
>>42872986
>>42872988
don't let them D&C you with dem gender wars, folks
we're all in this together, when we're not being driven to moral outrage by being shown mainly people at their weakest or worst

>>42872988
? Yeah? Some of my most accomplished family members are women who didn't marry. My great-aunt had a great impact on the world because she chose not to marry a man. If many men nowadays have those same priorities, what's the issue?

>>42872946
Wait, they're all fat?
Where are the skinny bitches oh wise animeposter?
Fuckin idiot. Fuckin baby. Let's see some skinny bitches since u know so many.

>>42872972
It's always some dumb cisfoid who fucking let herself get groomed screaming about "half + 7" and "y'all aren't compatible it's like a CHILD you're basically DATING A CHILD"

No, hon, you let yourself get pumped by a 26 year old when you were a freshman in HS and no one put a stop to it, that's not everyone's fucking dynamic

>>42873009
Thanks nona. That makes me feel better.

>>42873023
Because I don't think you do have those priorities. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

I think you're bitter because girls have not been kind to you. And you're seeing the way some women and saying "if that's for them why not for me, what's with the double standard."
That's kind of fair enough, but I don't think it's what you're really trying to say.

I think you're trying to say girls should make an effort to be nice to you so that you don't MGTOW the fuck out. And I don't think it needs to be an ultimatum like that, I think people should just be nicer to each other, especially accross the gender divide.

What say you to that?

>>42873044
I so do not agree with that.
Adults are responsible for making decisions in the child's best interest. If the 26 year old had have done that, we wouldn't have as many screaming dumb cisfoids.

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>>42873052
>nona
Oh I'm a fella, then again picrel.
Take care, nona.

>>42873066
Good boy.
*scratches behind ears*

>>42873052
I'm not a man, or at least, I don't interface with dating and society as one.

There's no deeper meaning to what I'm saying. The problem with actually-existing-MGTOW is that they're all insane misogynists. A non-misogynist man who is eschewing dating for other priorities and not being bitter on twitter about it is fine? I think people should be more accepting and make less patriarchal demands of that man.

>>42873060
It's a horrible nightmare, sure and yeah, the 26 year old should be beaten with a rock in a sack and the adults in her life have all their clothes dyed red or whatever.
And obviously no, she didn't "let herself get got"

But carrying it forward so obnoxiously and unthinkingly, the type that crashes out when a 21 year old and a 30 year old even just have a private conversation, all because her brain is boiling itself in trauma and she can't recognize that

It's altogether too common.
Not to victimblame but like, ruining other people's lives over it is insane, the age gap/pedo hunter craze is at such a fucking all time high for no goddamned reason. Like everyone is a millionaire kidnapping 14 year olds to pimp in foreign countries for looking at some ass in public.

>>42873088
>A non-misogynist man who is eschewing dating for other priorities and not being bitter on twitter about it is fine?
I don't see who'd have a problem with that.

I don't see how it relates to zero men at singles mixers tho.

>>42873100
I see it a lot, and I feel it's the unspoken message of the video that kicked this whole thread off! I'm just griping a little about people not taking their feminism far enough when it comes to their expectations of male behaviour.

>>42873096
Nobody had a go at me or anything, everyone was supportive and basically said what everyone else ITT has said.

But as someone who was molested by a middle aged woman when she was a little boy, and it fucked me up, I still gave myself the ick and I regret what I did.

>>42873118
I think the emotions you're expressing are 100% valid, and you're fully entitled to them.
I think the political position you're taking as a result of those emotions isn't fighting back, it's joining in.

Does that make sense?

>>42873121
If he's that age and can't process a grown woman taking a pass at him he's having his own problems, it's literally got nothing to do with you.
I was making moves on post-menopausal baddies when I was 24 (and god DAMN could Diana wring a cock out)
If he's never been approached by a woman that's on society for setting him up to be traumatized (or an unwitting incel for his entire life)

>>42867435
Same here, had a couple relationships but never something real serious. But I'm now 24 and I kinda turned into a fakecel. I hate foids... but I'm bi, so I force myself to be more gay leaning now.

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>>42873026
They're not here that's for sure
They're on TikTok posting silly dances and shit cuz they ain't scared of showing themselves like the fat bitches itt

>>42865003
idk how yall are struggling so much to get a bf, ive been with my current one for like 6months ;-;

>>42865003
Men are trash ass little faggots these days. All they do is bitch and moan about "male loneliness" like they don't 100% deserve it. Im so sick of hearing males complain and complain and complain. like holy fuck.

>>42873143
>can't process a grown woman taking a pass at him he's having his own problems
Yeah. Autism.

I blew up a friendship that I was getting heaps out of because I was crushing on a 19 year old.

>>42873162
>bitch complaining about other ppl complaining
man, all women do is complain lmfao

>>42873162
>Come to a website that's 90% men complaining about women
>Can't understand what's up with all these men complaining about women
Femalebrained female post.

>>42873162
>male loneliness
W*men made this term up btw. I have a lot of single friends and no one is complaining. It's always the girls getting pressured, like my sister. My parents and grand parents are constantly asking her about men...

>>42873166
...Well yeah, you probably pulled the trigger on that too fast, is all.
I mean, I turned down a 19yo coworker just a few months back and I'm barely 30
But I'm really not compatible with the endless tiktok scroller kind of girl anyways.
There's way better places to doomscroll.

>>42873176
Anon, her eggs are drying up and you are laughing....

>>42873185
I'm not laughing. I wish her luck, but shes focusing on her career right now. Shes the smartest person I know, she has the right to be picky, because she has the looks and the brain.

But apart from my family members, fuck foids.

>>42873184
It's not the only horrendous life choice I'm making atm.
I feel so broken and I don't know how to fix myself.

>>42873197
Sounds like incest baby time to me

>>42873223
Nona...

>>42873161
Not for long
He's gonna be your transgirlfriend soon!!

>>42873199
Have you considered weird international sex travel?
I hear it's popular

>>42873176
even if women did make the term up (which I highly doubt) men still constantly use it to make themselves look like the victims.

bottom line is, the modern man of any race, Is pathetic.

>>42873377
I struggle to leave my house Anon.