Mandatory conversion therapy for all trans kids under 25 in the UK.No hrt, no puberty blockers, no surgery and no social transition. Anyone that does will be imprisoned, sorry "safeguarded">"Medical intervention is not the standard approach. The primary intervention forchildren and young people who are assessed as suitable for The Service isbiopsychosocial and psychological support and intervention
>under 25 is a kidthey just want to ban it for everyone
>>43166351Age 25? Do you have the rest of the document?
>>43166357>>43166371Thats their criteria. The memes are real.The ban is real
>>43166371If you can stomach reading this, i envy you. https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/nhs-cyp-gender-service-specification-april-2026.pdf#page=23.09
>>43166384I only see a reference to under 18 here, but the rest is vile. Skimming it now.
>>43166400Pls report back
They are scared that we will pass and blend in with cis people. They want us to look different by mutilating our bodies by the restriction of puberty blockers. They want us to be singled out so we can be discriminated and be subject to hate crime. Advocate DIY as much as possible. This is what the trans community needs.
>>43166429If they wanted you to stand out they’d be more liberal with castration and PB’s that stunt your growth.
>>43166429i think its about appeasing the donor class and we're just considered acceptable collateral
>>43166420About a third of the way through it so far. Nothing stands out about the practices so far except no endocrine intervention and emphasis on high levels of documentation. Until I got to the shared care segment. Holy shit this is bad. It's designed to make private care and DIY a non-option.
>>43166351it's so fucking over
>>43166571Yeah it seems like its deliberately trying to confuse the reader and make it seem like DIY hormones are illegal by conflating it with puberty suppressants.
>>43166492>designed to make private care and DIY a non-option.How would they do that? Especially for diy?
>>43166585i wasn't talking about the big red text idc about that i was talking about the safeguarding, which is implied to occur for say, DIY>>43166593you go to the clinic, you tell them you're on DIY, safeguarding procedures are immediately initiated as you are "at risk of immediate or significant harm", even if your parents don't want to, for instance
>>43166633Ah, but that only affects minors right? Sure that's bad enough but given the OP I was worried it would be for everyone
>>43166593Basically no private care working with GPs and no blood tests through the NHS while also scaremongering over DIY. About two thirds of the way down. Entire document seems to fearmonger over the risks of transition, including social transition. It wants to seem neutral but its doing the "well some people say it's harmful so erm ackchually"
Oh noooo, the kids won't transition! The problem being?
>>43166351Better just stick to a frosty jacks innitDoubt the government cares about 14 year olds getting wasted on those
>>43166660untreated gender dysphoria worsens with age
>>43166371yeah nah i can't see anything about 25yrs, functionally it might as well i guess but yea25yrs has been in discussion for a while tho, SEGM are lobbying hard for it (same group that coined the term 'gender exploratory therapy'...), it's been mentioned in passing during several workshops, BMJ articles & was included in the Cass report, so seems likely they'll attempt to push it at some point
>>43166678oi those are 30 year old CHILDREN mate
>>43166678PROTECT our 35 year old BAIRNS from NONCES AND BLOKES IN FROCKS
>>43166647well yeah. i don't know why OP said 25. but it's pretty grim, and safeguarding/risk of harm with children is a situation where doctors are allowed to refer without patient permission, so it could be that these procedures are put in place because a kid or their parents told a different random NHS worker about DIYi'm not sure of any mechanisms by which they could stop DIY for 18+ without changing the scheduling of estradiol. the NHS has no power there, except denying you HRT. the worst case is that they treat it the same as like, being a heroin junkie
>>43166571>>43166351>using the state healthcare apparatus to control what even private physicians doNHS is like the ultimate propaganda for private healthcare systems.
>>43166733Would they even really care if you were a heroin junkie? I can even imagine them prioritising DIY HRT over actual harmful drugs lol
>>43166733Doctors seem legitimately more afraid of HRT than actual hard drugs.
>>43166719>30 year old tranny is simultaneously a grooming victim and a megarapist groomer
>>43166761nta but I can absolutely see that
>>43166351Shithole country.
>>43166733cracking done on DIY legitimately is a nuclear option, would genuinely fuck up a lot of things for cis womenthat said I worry that cis women will just roll over and take it
>>43166776It would be absolutely fine for cis women. They can get hrt no questions asked from a doctor
>>43166776Island nations kinda suck
Maybe there could be an option for getting an estradiol pellet implanted in another european country, I believe these can last 3 months and a ryanair return flight isnt that expensiveKinda shitty though
>>43166776Cis women aren't DIYing HRT. They'll give them scripts no questions ask, and throw trannies into the rape dungeon for having Chinese estrogen.
>>43166802>a ryanair return flightyet. wait a few more months for the oil price to show in flight prices
>>43166802>>43166814up to 6 months evenYeah I know its awful and I really feel for you all. Glad I'm on the opposite side of the channel
>>43166691COOR FUKIN ELL MATE 30 YEAR OLD AND STILL IN SCHOLL UR AVIN A LAFF U R, WOT THIS FUKIN WOKE SHITE DOSE TO YA
>>43166752they don't, but some (especially outside emergency medicine) give you bad looks and are rude to you and make empty threats about denying you care>>43166761because they're less familiar with it and it feels like it threatens the understanding of medicine they teach in school, if you're stupid. doctors don't like to think about how if you take medication outside of a prescription it doesn't actually magically not work and hurt you>>43166776true, and a lot of people don't realise this. i can't be assed explaining it to the catastrophisers desu. even if you treated it at the same level as dextroamphetamine, it would be easier to get than basically all other such drugs and it would cause an expensive administrative nightmare to the state. that said, a lot of trannies would get sent to the rape dungeons so it's possible they'll consider it anyway
>>43166752The housing association im with specialise in troubled people. Ex prisoners, junkies, etc.Heroin junkies are treated with kid gloves, spoken to softly like children and they genuinely seem to bend over backwards for them.As a tranny they openly hate me. Openly. To my face. British people arent right
>>43166351Can't ruin whitey so bad that it will underperform in defending israel now can we?
>>43166776They just do what they did for puberty blockers Cis possession: a-okTrans possession: jail
>>43166660>mid 20s>a kidHumans don't become more intelligent with age, only more confident in their stupidity.
>>43166802>Maybe there could be an option for getting an estradiol pellet implanted in another european countryOnly one nation on earth does them for non-citizens/ tourists, and thats Australia. Not even Thailand does it. It laats 6 months.Its the best option by far
>>43166925>it would be easier to get than basically all other such drugs and it would cause an expensive administrative nightmare to the stateThe UK gave ATOS £400 million to "save" £200 million by denying disabled people welfare, leading to mass deaths.The UK govt said it was a successful contract. They considered £200m spent and multiple deaths successful.
>>43166492Thanks for your sacrifice anon. Much appreciated. The Levy Report basically advised all this bad stuff.
>>43166719TO RIGHT M8, WEVE PUT UP WIV THIS WOKE NONSE 4 TOO LONG NAH, U CANT EVEN CALL IT A SASAGE ROLL ANYMORE ITS A CYLINDER CRUMBLE, FUAAARK
>>43166936to be fair, when you work with enough junkies you either learn to have sympathy for them even though you hate them, or realise that even if they're bad people they are getting way worse than they deserve. you will go insane if you don't do this; often people become condescending to sublimate their hatred. but if you are British you never have to learn to have sympathy for transgender people, and it's socially punished if you try
>>43166429Advocate stockpiling DIY to weather disruption when they try to fuck with it, you meanAdvocate local fundraising toward stockpiling raws
>>43166571Fuck 'em, I've helped two kids start DIY estrogen since the start of this year alone and am currently in the midst of helping another. If we do it systematically it'll overwhelm these overstretched bureaucracies past the point of them being able to carry out meaningful regulation, like with the war on drugs. Don't be cowards, take action. You're living in history as it occurs, do you want to passively let it happen or try to be a part of shaping its direction?
>>43166351It's not about under 25s
>>43167147I've done this in the past and I'd do it again given the opportunity
>>43167098how do we get started doing that tho
>>43166660Being told no is like the worst thing possible these days
>>43166351>date published >1 aprilWas this on purpose?
>>43167147you can do this without bragging about it on a forum that provides information to the relevant authoritiesthe systems are already part the point of them being able to carry out meaningful regulation; otherwise, DIY would not be a thingdo as thou ought but don't be stupid about it, and don't be more scared than is warranted. attempts at regulating DIY will not go or get very far, even without you.
>>43166429>They are scared that we will pass and blend in with cis people.
>>43166351NHS:>instead of just trooning out kids, this service will now perform psychiatric assessments to fix issues that may mispresent as dysphoria in order to avoid needless troonery and regerts/tttt/:>Nnnnnnnoooooooooo you can't just resolve psychiatric comorbidities!!!!! What about my delicious fresh yolks ;________;
>>43167318This is actually literally a stated goal of TERFs. They want to ban minors transitioning to reduce the number of passoids because not only do they fear passoids innately, they know that the presence of passoids makes other cissoids more sympathetic.
>>43167327Do you think they "just" helped kids transition? Most people referred to GICs didn't start puberty blockers. They were already receiving counseling.
>>43167330It makes them more sympathetic with youngshit passoid and also more willing to leave the rest of us in the dirt for being gross
idc i live in usa
>>43167346The existence of youngshit passoids makes cissoids less likely to be weird about trans people in general because they will see that there are "normal trans people."It also, importantly, means that more will be supportive of youngshittery, and that more trans youth will see what's actually possible.
>>43167330never forget this letter from sex matters to NHS chief lmao1/2>passing as the opposite sex ceases to be a desireable goal to present to children when they will never be permitted to use spaces or services for the opposite sex
>>43166351Sort of the nothing burger of the year. We already knew kids weren't going to have access to hormones and more due to irreversible effects it has on bodies. You guys need to wake up and realize that gender affirming care is a fairly radical treatment and it needs to be fully proven to work on adults before anyone will allow it for kids. Even most trans don't support hormones for kids outside of this board lmaot. MtF
>>43167365>they will see that there are "normal trans people." yeah and then they wonder what's wrong with all the ones who don't pass or are ugly. it's gotta be their fault since clearly it's possible to be normal>more trans youth will see what's actually possible.yeah true, im just not optimistic that it will improve things for those of us who aren't youngshits
>>43167330>>431673852/2
>>43167385real cart before horse logic lmao
>>43167392God these people are evil. >>43167391Not how this works. Surprisingly, being a (mostly) outwardly normal person as a tranny despite not being a passoid has helped people who know me be generally more supportive of trans people in general. We just need to make sure the youngshits develop empathy because too many become even worse than the average cissoid.
>>43167405yea lmaostill i imagine that'll be the logic they try and ban all care on, like they're pushing super hard to make life hard for us and the fundemental basis of trans healthcare is built on psychological improvements, soif they get people in those '18-25' clinics like segm want and hondose them then, when people get super depressed they can claim adult care doesn't work for psychological improvements, e>>43167422>God these people are evil.very, it's insane that a small concentrated group of people won't stop until we're dead just because they hate us and find us disgusting
>>43167327honestly seems reasonable but w/e
>>43167392>which can involve intimate contact with others in situations where sex matters for those others' human rightsA trans person so much as touching a cis person is a violation of their human rights. Nazism but woke.
>>43167485(they already did 3 psych reviews + required parental consent for referral)
>>43167254That's why I haven't given more details on specifics, the authorities already know some trans teens DIY and that homebrew exists, but I wouldn't e.g. name sources or locations of people I've helped in my posts>>43167196Based (waow)>>43167197At this point, for the reason >>43167254 states it's no longer wise to be posting about current raws soruces on here unfortunately, so without being able to tell you here your best option, as it has been for the past several years as I keep telling people, to network our community IRL to we know on the ground level what's going on locally and regionally. You'll need a basic understanding of cryptocurrency and someone who isn't on benefits who can buy crypto for it. Beyond that the details you'll need to make your way into activist spaces IRL to get involved in. Once you have people to organise with locally or regionally, you'll want to look at indie/underground music events or drag nights etc. who can raise cash in hand without asking questions, that sort of thing. Avoid well-meaning posh types and NGOs/NGO workers, they're too institution-brained and won't understand you can't be reporting the earnings to HMRC or whoever or announcing events raising money for trans mutual aid to the local press or other bigwigs.
>>43166384Is this already real or just proposed?Can people still be treated privately?
>>43166429100%. It’s the same mentality as people that seethe about glp-1s.
This doesn't really feel like news? Did people think minors should be able to transition? Wasn't that already an open and shut case of bad ideas lol?
>>43167392>we made life hell for trans people socially, now we have to make life hell for them medically Remember the average Brit would rather the govt hurts trans people than fix the hospitals
>>43167525Reality is objectively not on your side. Evidence > feelings.
happy easter guys :)
>>43167501Someone can rape you, but its you who's arrested, thrown in prison, put on the sex offenders list and smeared in the media.Never be alone with a cis person
>>43167501simply sharing the same space is considered respiratory rape by the cisgendered
>>43167513Effective immediately
>>43167525Shut the fuck up niggerfaggot goy cattle.
>>43167327kys pedoniggerI'm not tolerating your bullshit anymore, just kysI hope you get pizzas sent to your house
>>43167525>muh hecken bad ideasdidn't brits have their access shut off? The government should watch you more closely
>>43167558DamnSuch bullshit.
>>43167533There's no conclusive evidence that GAC is good or bad and there probably won't be because it's being socially, politically and ideologically rejected as a concept before research can truly get very far. The evidence that exists suffers methodological flaws and fails to explain continued distress, comorbidities, causal factors, or account for euphoric/dysphoric cycles in long term research. GD in general is a very awkward condition to have since the primary suggested 'fix' is historically questionable while alternatives also have very mixed results. I'd personally be in favour of not banning GAC, even though it's not ideal, in order to potentially find better alternatives and solutions...but that's probably not going to happen as political factors overplayed their hand and now the patients (read: trannies) are going to suffer for it. I don't blame you guys for being ideological or dogmatic about things when your primary treatment being banned doesn't automatically mean you'll be compensated or taken care of. You really are just going to be left behind despite detransition being virtually impossible for most of you. It is very unfortunate and I hope it doesn't end up being so bleak.
i ate a big pizza for easter, what did you guys eat
>>43167595The majority of evidence we currently have is in favor of GAC. Evidence against is typically a result of either extremely poor (often intentionally so) research or treatment methodology. GAC is basically the ONLY treatment with any proven level of effectiveness, and it also happens to be the desired treatment.
>>43167595>if we remove 97% of the data from the sample, theres no data!!Congratulations, Sherlock. Now, care to tell me how countries without their executive branches overtaken by SEGM manage to... not ban GAC?
>>43167633(this indeed is what the NHS has done, on multiple occasions)the early days (well practically anything until the mid 2010s) of gids were also days of doctors practically molesting their patients and forcing them into 1950s stereotypes + years long waitlists. It has never been good for trannies in the UK
>>43167509>it's no longer wise to be posting about current raws sorucesYou realize that those are all outside of the UK and your law doesn't apply to them right? Don't let trans people be cucked out of effective mutual aid
>>43166351time to come to brazil gringxs
>>43167595>You really are just going to be left behind despite detransition being virtually impossible for most of you. It is very unfortunate and I hope it doesn't end up being so bleakAww, such a sensitive, caring soul. You are ok with and facilitate horrible things happening to us, but you *hope* horrible things happen to us. Someone give this christlike man an award.>There's no conclusive evidence that GAC is good or badThere is more evidence that transition is good than there is for most commonplace medical treatments.
>>43167617The evidence we have suffers pretty intense flaws, speaking as someone actually in the medical community. We've also begun to recently acknowledge the many distinct etiologies of GD and many in the medical community are considering that there may be distinct typologies to the extent that GAC won't necessarily be a 'fix' for each of them. But that research is basically dead in the water as, like I said, society is shutting us down on that front. A future where people who need GAC and people who need an alternative treatment is being closed off and instead we're trending towards GAC not being an option at all due to some of the messy facets of its existence. I do feel we have to take responsibility, had the medical community been less eager to promote GAC as the primary treatment it possibly could have gotten a lot farther and proved itself. In our defense, the initial results were very exciting. The doubt cast on those results only truly came into the light in the past few years. It's not hopeless though, we're actively trying to keep GAC alive in this political climate but our own studies are, unfortunately, informing legislators that GAC is less consistent than previously thought. The outside political pressure is also trending the opposite way. I'd recommend writing to your congressmen and imploring them not to give up on this treatment and emphasize a need for further research.
>>43167660>speaking as someone actually in the medical communityopinion discarded, stopped reading
>>43167595Niggerfaggot.
/tttt/ is pretty famously anti-doctors and anti-science, idk why anyone would bother. half the people here are just incels on hormones. not exactly the most rational demographics lol
>>43167660>muh flaws>muh doubtzz>im a heckin medical communitirinostop with vaguefaggotry and get to the point. Actually segment your responses as well
>>43167648i heard a few of them were in trouble with the dea because of what else they sell but they're still here sothey're easy to find anyways, crypto's the most annoying part but people should just do group buys to avoid friction & save on delivery
>>43167615Waiting for ham and beer.
>>43167660>I'd recommend writing to your congressmen and imploring them not to give up on this treatment and emphasize a need for further researchTranslation: Please be a lobbyist for free for my medical grift.How about no? The medical profession is the enemy here. Gfy and kys.
>>43167692keep crying nigger
>>43166351Trannies lost. Simple as.
>>43167615i just ate a whole easter egg yo im not feeling so good
>>43167660Maybe you shouldn't have thrown out all the diagnostic criteria. No shit a treatment's apparent effectiveness goes down the toilet when you start giving it to people who had no symptoms of dysphoria to begin with.
>>43167695Yeah most of them have been selling stuff that's actually scheduled for many years. Even if the UK cracks down on diy a bit, it will be the least of their worries. They're black market, always have been and know how to deal with that. So don't stop giving valuable information to people who need it out of unfounded panic
>>43167675Repeat this mantra like Nixon repeated his mantra. The doctor is the enemy. The doctor is the enemy. The establishment is the enemy. The nurses are the enemy. Nurses are the enemy. Write that on the blackboard 100 times and never forget it.
>>43167694>>43167701I'm sorry you feel that way. I do understand how it comes to pass. I hope you all continue your therapy programs and try to stay optimistic, it can be hard out there.>>43167709I do agree, but I personally didn't have power over this. To an extent, even doctors are controlled by politics. We're not as impartial as people presume and the upper echelons tend to be under immense political pressure that causes research to be rushed, ideas to be adopted without safeguards, and rapid changes in policy.
>>43167721>waah youre evil and bad if you criticize me in ANY way, SCIENCE DENIAL SCIENCE DENIALman I wonder why people could ever hate you, go deal with the raw milk poisonings !!! :3
>>43167740I don't want you to do 'science' on me. The idea that every time I talk to a doctor, he's probably thinking about my 'etiology' makes my skin crawl and avoid them like the plague. We know this treatment works for us and for most of us, taking it away would happen only from our cold, dead hands. Take us at our word and actually research useful things if you actually want to pretend to care about us
>>43167726>I'm sorry you feel that wayNo, you don't. Cut the crap. You are the enemy.>I hope you all continue your therapy programs and try to stay optimisticI'd rather kms than step into one of your bullshit "therapy programs". Nothing is worse than that. Not even death itself. Heck, even prison time from ending one of you people is preferable than following anything you ever had to say, have to say now or will ever have to say.You people are the problem. The destruction of your profession is in itself beneficial for everyone, not just trannies.
>>43167726I started my HRT diying, and I will continue. Kill all "psychology" niggers. All "sexology" niggers as well. I do not need approval of rotting gay pedophiles
>>43167660>speaking as someone actually in the medical communityDoctors are generally not researchers and are overwhelmingly not equipped to evaluate evidence. Something like 9% of endocrinologists were capable of passing a very basic exam on trans HRT. /HRTgen/ troons are unironically more qualified than the average doctor, let alone the sort of ideologue who would concern troll on 4chan.
>>43167791>Something like 9% of endocrinologists were capable of passing a very basic exam on trans HRTsauce? genuinely curious
>>43167771That's an awkward stance to hold, if I'm being honest. But generally speaking I know better than to tackle delusions. Perhaps focus on the issue on hand instead of indulging in immature fantasies?>>43167776I don't honestly care if you do DIY. Considering the political climate, it may soon be your only option. Try to be safe and vet your sources before you take it, obviously, but otherwise there haven't been too many cases to suggest it's a public health issue. The absence of regulations alone doesn't necessarily mean it's dangerous, and responsible adults should be aware that their mileage could vary with unofficial sources.>>43167791>/HRTgen/ troons are unironically more qualified than the average doctorAgree to disagree friend. That's akin to claiming the average /fit/ user can pass as a dietician or a nutritionist. Your cursory knowledge does not equal expertise, no offense intended.
>>43167807>Your cursory knowledge does not equal expertise, no offense intended.I'm an actual researcher, your knowledge level is likely cursory relative to mine, meat mechanic.
>>43167807You are such a patronizing little shit. Guess being a doctor was your calling
>>43167807>immature fantasiesWho says it's fantasy? I already beat up 3 doctors in my lifetime. Would gladly beat up some more to stay away from your retarded abattoir that have the audacity to call "science".My cat is smarter than you will be in 15 lifetimes you subhuman trash. Now kys.
>>43167821Are you assuming I'm a surgeon for some reason? In any case, I never said hormones or GAC was a bad idea. I merely relayed the current state of research and the political climate.>>43167825I don't have to handhold you, I'm not YOUR doctor. If you expect people to bend over backwards to appease you when you actively reject their entire livelihood you're simply being immature.
>>43167837I expect you to shut up and leave
>>43167825nta>Guess being a doctor was your callingI have never, ever met a doctor who is not a patronizing little shit and fundamentally subhuman whose existence being terminated would undoubtedly improve humanity overall.Doctors, all of them, are evil. Even police officers are nowhere near as dangerous and evil as doctors.
>>43166351stop tolerating faith
>>43167589They are letting hospitals rot and dedicating all their resources towards harming us, insane
>>43167838>>43167844I'll come clean about one thing: if you sensed some hostility from me that's likely due to resentment. My wife is transgender and I hate her. My comments on the issue are accurate but I don't like you people because you remind me of my wife. I wish she would kill herself. Not just because she's trans, but because she's the worst person who's ever been born. I don't immaturely condemn all transgenders on that account, though I don't like them at all. They're all so insufferable in the same way she is. Full of themselves, utterly deluded and traumatized. The fact that I have to care about you all due to my job sickens me. You should be thanking me for what I've done for you but you can't. You'll bite the hand that feeds you again and again, never learning your lesson. She never learned her lesson either. It's a struggle to remind myself you're not all the same.
>>43167953Have you always beaten your wife?
>>43167837why can't we all be normal and rational about doctors and medicine AND recognise this guy is an annoying asshole whose attitudes and ideas about GAC are a little silly
>>43167953fix your life bitch lmao
>>43167953what the fuck r u talking aboutwhat did your wife do why do you hate heris she okay what do you mean "she never learnt either"are you okay
>>43167979Idk I think doctors are just kinda shit. My HRT provider wouldn't even test for SHBG.
>>43167953You're not competent enough to help or care about us effectively, dude.
>>43167953dr powers?
>>43167979Doctors are worthless for transition and have treated me with open disgust and disrespect. I want nothing to do with them so long as I can avoid it
>>43166351i dont understand why they hate us so much when we're a politically powerless underclass, while they're fine with the politicians and billionaires that actually have power to make their lives better like are they actually just all retarded?
>>43167989She laughs too much. It never stops. Every time I come home I hear her incessant, ringing laughter from every room. She rushes to me and shows me some stupid, inane meme on her phone. She also cries too much. When she saw the news in the OP she cried and screamed and asked why I didn't fix it. I'm tired of her, anon. She's taken years off my life. I work overtime just to be away.
>>43167385British "people" are demonic
>>43167979ok lets start with the doctors being normal and rational first
>>43168013This has to be a LARP.
>>43168013you have some kind of mental illness, i hope you can get the help you need. have you gone to a therapist or a psychiatrist?
>>43168008>i dont understand why they hate us so much when we're a politically powerless underclassthat's why>like are they actually just all retarded?yes
>>43168028yeah lol i'm not a doctor nor am i married, happy easter guys <3
>>43168008>i dont understand why they hate us so much >we're a politically powerless underclassthat's why. We're an easy target
>>43168013my sides
>>43168040happy easter =)
>>43168013have you talked to her about her problems?have you considered divorce?im really sorry, anon, i understand how difficult it is to be with someone you've grown to hatei hope you can sort it outwhat sort of medicine do you work in?do you value your job?
For future reference doctors don't browse /lgbt/ nor would they be so vague lol. Everything I said could be garnered from reading one news article. Stay safe girls>>43168058I was just larping lol
>>43166429>>43167523It's a cool theory but I don't think it's that deep. They just think transgenderism is a perverted lifestyle choice. None of them believe transition really works, even pre-puberty.
>>43168058>what sort of medicine do you work in?I work in poppers and GHB and ketamine. She came to me naturally and now I can't fucking get rid of her.>do you value your job?It has a good life insurance policy.
>>431680084chan trannies say this then unironically proceed to bash blacks and brown people. >"but niggers are a threat to society!"What the fuck do you think the TERFs are saying about us?
>>43168077>i work in poppersLOL
>>43168061>For future reference doctors don't browse /lgbt/ nor would they be so vague lolsome dobut people who actually know things don't try to validate their opinions with an appeal to authority on anonymous imageboards
>>43168061i was just playing along lol, that's like, the whole point of 4chanwe should bring back it being a faux pas to admit you're larping. it's cowardly
>>43168084>4chan trannies say this then unironically proceed to bash blacks and brown people.link one racist post right now
It's sad and all what's happening to the lil zoomers but oh well I'm 34. My main fear is them banning HRT. amazed it hasn't happened already a campaign against "spending taxpayer money on transgenderism" would get like 100% approval.
>>43168090This board is a little retarded about most things desu but it's less fun to engage in a debate with larpers and more fun to do a silly roleplay>>43168092The show has to end at one point, sorry for spoiling the fun for you
>>43168063>None of them believe transition really works, even pre-puberty.Yeah most of them have no idea that transition is even possible in the way that we know it is. They think hormones do basically nothing and they think all minors transitioning means is they cut off the genitals. They have no idea that passing is possible, for adults or for youngshits. That's why I don't believe the reason they're against it is because they're afraid trannies will pass
>>43168100>>43167566>>43167577>>43167680>>43167704>>43167776
>>43168107Beyond stuff related to transitioning, this board offers extremely terrible health advice in general. Weight cycling alone gives /lgbt/ a terrible rep lmao>>43168125Waow, sort of frickin won. Get ready for a no true scotsman though!
>>43168084those aren't trannies, they're racist incels with a fetish
>>43168125saying the word nigger isn't inherently racist. Black people say it all the timejust like calling someone a newfag on 4chan isn't an actual accusation of homosexualityyou're confusing the cultural phenomenon of the common use of offensive language on imageboards with actual racism, because you yourself are a newfag (heterosexual)link some real racism
>>43168135>Get ready for a no true scotsman though!>>43168143kek
>>43168107>the show has to end at some pointthe honourable way to end a larp is just to start samefagging and stop larpingit's fun to larp but you should be ashamed for admitting it
>>43166351dont care
>>43168153>it's fun to larp but you should be ashamed for admitting itits actually bad for the board culture tho, you should all feel bad
>>43168114To be fair when I was a kid and saw Nadia from Big Brother on TV I assumed it was £1,000,000 worth of surgery and didn't even bother asking about how to do it.
>>43168153I had fun, why be mad about it? All I did was accurately summarize where trans healthcare is at then larp as if I had a wife I wanted to kill. I don't think most people were actually mad, just having fun. 4chan is fun!
>>43168148if everyone's a scotsman, then no one is.
>>43168146Black people say nigga.
>>43168198it's the same word pronounced differently
>>43168176It depends on the larp. This one was harmless I think>>43168183When I was 14 a friend showed me tranny porn and I asked how they did that and he said surgery. And I just assumed it was cis women who had the penis grafted on and wondered why the hell they'd do that to themselves
>>43168013It sucks that this is a larp because I relate heavily.
>>43167648All T raws sources have been fucked for 6 months or so now, the last thing we need is to take the mickey
>>43168008Bullies.The UK is an open air zoo, everyone is insane and spiteful, eyes bulging with untreated mental illness and financial worries, we are the two minutes hate whilst the billionaires raid the Treasury.
>>43168106>amazed it hasn't happened alreadyThey do it piecemeal. Theres no bombastic announcement like in the USA, just one day you're hrt isnt renewed and a polite email informing you best wishes as you die. This is happening now to tens of thousands of people
>>43168208>It depends on the larp. This one was harmless I thinkall larps are terrible and should be bannable, stuff like this is why i support digital id and age verification tbhon
>>43168224>All T raws sources have been fucked for 6 months or so nowHow comes?
>>43168245>bannableholy shit cry some more
>>43168245bad larp, you should be banned
>>43168256jk, i can't keep it up im too autistic lmaoyeah some larps are funny but some go overboard>>43168278no u
>>43166351>1st of april.Alright
>>43168208>When I was 14 a friend showed me tranny porn and I asked how they did that and he said surgery. And I just assumed it was cis women who had the penis grafted on and wondered why the hell they'd do that to themselvesHoly shit, same lol. >Greek kid called Yianni gets made fun of for liking "shemales">He actually admits it and owns it>Ask what they are>He shows us some pic on his Nokia 6630 of a 10/10 woman with a dick>I'm like wtf how and why did she have a dick surgically attached
>>43168240>tfw been called in to GP for a "medication review"Is it over?
>>43168185i'm not mad ur just shameful...it's gauchethe beautiful equilibrium of the postmodern exploration of consensus truth and social performance on this vanuatan pig butchering forum has been ever-so disrupted by your hedonistic desire to pursue fleeting whimsy. shame, i say. fun i am having or not be as it may>>43168176a certain ratio of larp:real is ideal i think, and it depends on the context and the thread. boymoder greentext larps are literally like defining board culture here, after all
>>43168208>>43168304I just thought they were women who were somehow born with a penis but otherwise developed normally
>>43168338Either way, I felt really sorry for them. And now I'm a tranny myself and infinitely more chopped. Fml
>>43166802Involuntary surgical pellet removalTravel restrictions for anyone who's changed their name by deed poll
>>43168338This is what I thought until I was 15 or so.
>>43168320>boymoder greentext larps are literally like defining board culture here, after allyeah smut or creative writing around weird scenarios is generally fine, the satire's fineit's the people posting hate, bait, or low effort content farming that're annoying, like just adds to the noise with all the tourist sharty & chaser shitto me the most fun part about chans/imageboards is conversations like this where you're actually connecting with people online over random stuff, not facing content farm algorithm shitbait, it's oldschool social media at it's finest and larps sometimes get in the way ig
>>43168338People used to believe what they saw (a woman) now they believe what they are told (if you find out they have a Y chromosome, ignore your eyes)
>>43166802Pellets can last nearly 2 years once your on them for long enough, current one is 20 months old and I’m at 1182pmolT. Been on pellets for nearly a decade
>>43168377I learned that hormones existed because of the chris chan tomgirl saga and it did lasting damage to me
>>43168422Greentext is better when it's true thoAll three? Four? Of the ones I've made have been real.
>>43168451See I kinda learned about hormones before that but I didn't make the connection really. I hated testosterone though. I thought the stuff I read about taking hormones was fake, like the "grow your dick" ads on sketchy websites. I was a retarded kid though because I also visited Susan's Place when I was 12 but that was for like one day and I was scared off.
>>43168452true ig, but nobody else can tell if it's not so (if its well written)
>>43168487I have had at least one of them get LARP accusations. But the most recent one (and when I started namefagging) basically everyone accepted it as real because of the food pics.
>>43168462There is absolutely no reason not to teach about dysphoria and hrt in sex ed class. They teach about STDs, they teach about putting on a condom, but they don't talk about transition. It would legitimately save so many lives and improve even more if every tranny at age 14 learned that dysphoria is a thing they feel and it can be fixed easily with hrt. Nothing would be more impactful
>>43168530Well I went to a private Christian school so we didn't have sex ed until like, 10th or 11th grade and by then it was too late. I tried killing myself in 9th grade because I hated my body and what it was turning into but still didn't have the words "gender dysphoria" or even "transgender."
>>43168530same reason so many places still refuse to teach kids that gay people exist in sex edthey know that if they don't teach it then more people will repress, which is all they care about
>>43168462nta>Susan's PlaceThank fuck I had IRL friends and supportive family. Trooning for minors was unheard of but some bica and some gel for the cute boy could be... fetched (yay corruption <3).
>>43167391This is true but it's also true that hons are going to have to be sacrificed for the good of youngshits. Honnery is associated with men trying to get placed in women's prisons, whipping yr cock out in the women's shelter etc, that's not fair either but it's basically unfixable, hons must take the L
>>43168515oh i checked archiveyea i dont usually read bf blogposts cuz im a sourpuss hagmoder lol, i haven't dated for agesi was kinda manmoding b4 i met my ex ages ago, i still have the photo from when i first went out in girlmode w/himi have good stories from back then but i suck at putting it into greentext, my brain is mush nowadays
>>43168541>>43168550I was suicidal since I was 13 and I also used to feel like a floating head with no real body beneath my clothes. Generally severely dissociated. They also talked about gay people and even sadomasochism in my sex ed so there's literally no reason they couldn't have talked about dysphoria
>>43168562Yeah it was not in the cards for me. Even told my mom that I thought I was supposed to be born a girl at 12 but nothing happened. >>43168592I also have Wormy Girl Chronicles from like a month ago and then one about my stupid tranny family (turns out I'm not the only one) from like six months ago.
>>43168610God yeah. I felt like my head was a balloon, or that I was some alien piloting my body remotely from a spaceship. Also had a phantom vagina.
>>43168610yes, the reason is that they hate usthat's all
