Ai plopped sloppa

after controlling for hrt age there isn't one its conformation bias

>>43598178
Bit of a hot take but trannies need to learn to accessorize and wear cute glasses right. Like obviously the agp looks bad with those glasses but I don't think the message should be no glasses

if it's real you wouldn't need to make an AI picture to demonstrate it

>>43598178
gay man extrovert vs straight man introvert basically, though sometimes the wires cross, the AGP extrovert is the archetypical sexpest and the introvert HSTS is going to get raped

>>43598178
right mogs me

>>43598273
i didnt feel like opening gimp (I use gentoo btw)

>>43598178
HSTS get off on men being attracted to them.
AGP get off on being attracted to their own body.
Honestly, AGP is more based.

>>43598282
I use arch but gimp sucks, I just run photoshop cc 2018 in wine

>>43598330
HSTS are also attracted to their body, most people are especially if you have to work for it. The difference is AGPs pop a boner over it, even if they actually look like shit.

>>43598178
HSTS never boymode
Hsts will not kill themselves, if they can't transition
Hsts can choose to live as gay men.

these are some of the differences I've noticed from being on this board

>>43598412
>Hsts can choose to live as gay men.
basically me cause if i transition my male family members will kill me, shit they want to kill me already cause of my gay aura and i aint even out to any of them :(

>>43598178
it's not a real thing, go outside

>>43598412
>HSTS never boymode
>Hsts can choose to live as gay men.

>>43598510
Possibly true.
My point is, AGP seem to say that they have no choice, transition, or they die.
I know from being gay and hsts, we always have a chance to be gay. A choice to be gay, or transition. We only transition if we look well enough to pass.

>>43598576
>We only transition if we look well enough to pass.
also that, bro i'm pushing 30 I am not putting myself thru that. besides im poor i would never like fuck you money to look good. better to focus on getting the fuck out of her and gettin a bf.

>>43598178
bigotry, self hatred, a conflation of so many factors boiling down hundreds of potential deviations of circumstances into sexual attraction and vibes slop. it's not real and in a world where every trans woman got the support and acceptance of society it would practically vanish.

>>43598178
i look *exactly* like right, feels bad

>>43598527

>>43598527
What do you think, there's a contradiction here?
There really isn't. Not for us. We can live as gay men, or as transgender women. It's a choice.
If you look good enough and have a stronger desire to be a female who transitioned, if we don't, we don't.

>>43598527
its cause AGPs tend to be white middle class and upper while HSTS tend to be poor, so its not really a choice. you can distance yourself from your family as an AGP and live, HSTS you will die if you do that. and cant really afford HRT and much less surgeries, even DIY stuff is a lil expensive

>>43598657
>>43598649
no, none of this is true

>>43598412
>>43598576
i maxxed out 8 credit cards to afford transition and im not even done yet
thats AGP?

>>43598649
but anon boymoding is living as a gay man

>>43598375
HSTS are attention whores like straight women, they lie to themselves. "I put on makeup and go to the expensive hair salon for myself..." (For that narcissistic feeling they get when men make eyes at them....)
AGP are based because they realize they can coom over and over again with less work and without relying on someone else.

>>43598669
>i maxxed out 8 credit cards
I need to know your combined monthly payment. How tf do u not default?

>>43598616
Very few hsts who come from Western Europe, or United States transition anymore. People are too aware of what to look for in mtf today. It's become more stigmatized than it is to be a feminine gay man, which wasn't the case when some of us transitioned in the past.

>>43598616
take your meds, reptard

>>43598720
im not depressed nor suicidal okay well maybe a lil but who isnt these days

>>43598669
the rare AGP with BPD, or maybe you just have that white people "i dont care if i die" shit.

>>43598669
Yes that's AGP because essentially, AGP is when you have a sexual compulsion to transition, which is missing in an hsts
Hsts are very feminine gay men who are essentially very feminine like women

>>43598681
No it is not. You can ask any AGP on board and they will tell you there are not gay men when they are boymoders

>>43598282
HAHAHA I love you

>>43598732
tick tock

>>43598760
I'm a manmoder and I'm very much living as a gay man idk u sound like a tourist or someone who never leaves gigi

>>43598748
but HSTSs are also very ghetto, street like. yeah its a thing that gay men imitate black women but well thats cause the foundations of HSTS culture comes from gay black dudes whom were actually transexuals. and black women are rather masculine, which is why white HSTSs sometimes get called fake feminine. tho i dont get that cause i am a ghetto HSTS so i am used to women here being a lil masc.

>>43598412
>>43598576
>>43598649
>>43598702
hsts are just fem looksmaxxers.
if you think of masc4masc looksmaxxers who gymcel and steroids, and then take that and imagine the fem version then you have hsts.

>>43598666
Oh my another person who cannot take the difference between AGP and hsts. Why does it offend you so much? because your AGP and you think you're inferior, you are not!

>>43598178
I don't care about the differences anymore, I just want a feminine partner. No they/them and no it/it's. Just go with he/him and be a faggot or go with she/her and be a girl.

Just be feminine and a bottom.

>>43598785
Sure anon, just redefine blanchard

>>43598687
oh yeah i forgot AGPs are also all chuds who believe in andrew tate shit too. look i know women can be bitches sometimes most women know that but i assure you most of that broscience shit is pure cope.

>>43598649
There really is no downside to being a gay man on estrogen tho, okay boobs but you can get those amputated.
The anti-aging effect is remarkable!

>>43598793
thats the thing like i dont even think they are inferior, they're valid, but they're the ones that make it a whole fight for no reason, when we should instead be united and fight our common anime, chuds and TERFs.

>>43598807
non MTF revised blanchard typology
>hsts:
hrtfemboys, hrtwinks, hrtwunks, cis men on hrt, masc4masc TRTwunks, looksmaxxers, roidtroons
>agp
boymoder, manmoder

>>43598178
one is attractive and social and the other is an ugly loser

>>43598820
>okay boobs but you can get those amputated
oh so im not the only hsts that thinks like that. like i want the fem look and the soft skin but i dont want boobs, not even cause HRT give you weird booms i wouldnt even want good boobs, just a nice flat chest.

>>43598853
1 mg Estradiol will give aoft skin without boobs

>>43598762
on the clock but the party don't stop uhohuoh

hsts: sparkling twinkling eyes (yk the look)
agp: dead hollowed out eyes (yk the look also)

>>435987
you're not looking at the big picture. The big picture would tell you education has changed the way hsts make decisions, they will reserve transitioning because of the potential violence involved in being known as a transgender person, publicly. Most hsts today live as gay men. They are not necessarily bottoms. Some fmme gays are very sexual like masculine men.

>>43598878
how do you mess up the tag LMAO

>>43598859
you know how sometimes trans women say a certain type of trans man just wants to actually be a trans woman, well im like the reverse of that i'd lowkey would like to be a trans man, but with a perfectly flat chest. that way id naturally have a fem body and just get a really good top surgery or be blessed with flat tits to begin with, and havin a pussy would be fun too that way i can get pregnant and be a mom for real.

>>43598853
felt

>>43598178
It's the same person

>>43598898
do ftm tiwinks age better than amab twinks?

>>43598847
but those aren't mutually exclusive

>>43598820
Sure, I can understand what you're saying, although the males I know who are definitely gay and came out transgender, for a while, have never really entertained the idea of tolerate a low libido low enough to tolerate HRT. I think hrt is better tolerated by agp

>>43598898
soo fucking true ftms can look absolute GOALS ;_;

>>43598922
in theory they should but cis women rarely take care of even think of taking care of themselves as much as gay dudes do so they age like shit, especially for ftms cause the community lowkey encourages them to look like shit. theres one trans dude twink that ive seen that looks really good but i could tell he actually works out to get the physique right. hes goals for me i hope i get reborn as a ftm so i can look like that.

>>43598828
Oh I agree. I just wonder if transgender people continue to be such a significant minority since hsts have decided it's safer and better to live as gay men. Maybe agps will make a similar compromise?

>>43598330
>HSTS get off on men being attracted to them.
i do this and im not hsts

>>43598934
>the idea of tolerate a low libido low enough to tolerate HRT
as a gay guy on HRT, I never got this. My bf regularly calls me an absolute degenerate gooner (I call him that too and then we goon each other).
The whole le female sexuality thing sounds very AGP to me

>>43598893
Why don't you try reading instead of being so defensive, maybe you learn something

>>43598961
eventually AGPs will realize they need us once they get tired of being chuds and get through their adult puberty and enter the adult world, then i think the community will be nicer. we need to lowkey encourage them to go outside and help them out with fashion and healthstyle advice, and they can help us with their HRT diy science stuff.

>>43598972
So, what's your point

>>43598412
>HSTS never boymode
I did until I could afford ffs.
>Hsts will not kill themselves, if they can't transition
>Hsts can choose to live as gay men
This is true. If this hadn't worked, I'd have femboymaxxed.

>>43598178
HSTS prioritize outside social approval.
AGPs prioritize gooning and cooming.
Sidenote but, I was watching tranny pron the other day, and I was kind of disappointed at how passing so mtfs are these days. I prefer that non-passing mtf look like Hunter Schafer: masculine hips, un-softened facial features, etc.

most of us are the same, talentless sigma moided cocklusted 4chanfags on e to be prettier on the selfie cam

>>43598949
so true like imagine having a perky woman ass and small frame, like i love man butt but to hold it not to have it myself, smdh. why cant i be ftm..

>>43598973
How does the sound one way or the other to you? I'd like to hear your reasoning.

>>43598979
I'm not sure I agree because I think it's better for hsts to live as gay men. I wish I had made that choice myself, I might have a lover now

>>43598989
>I prefer that non-passing mtf look like Hunter Schafer: masculine hips, un-softened facial features, etc.
exactlyyy you get it. like a masc sort of femineity. i hate big boobie trans women they just look off to me.

>>43598994
AGPs just like "girldick" they arent real cockhounds the way HSTSs are. like i want man dick not this girlcock shit.

>>43598987
I don't know about this because most of the hsts I knew were high school age teenagers who travels to live us gay men and never thought about transitioning once they grew out of it. Yes, hsts do grow out of it at times.
Why do you think most hsts today are Latino or black? It's because they like the education and enlightened Community to make the decisions we made about living as gay men to them being gay men is still the worst thing you can be

>>43598955
why do they encourage each other to look like shit while men discovered the chemicals, built the chemical factories, built the shipping logistics companies, and learned the biology to figure out how to synthesize and ship HRT around the world and transition into their ideal image

>>43598274
can confirm, I am an extroverted autistic agamp and I am the archetypal sex pest and my gf is an introvertrd androphilic bisexual who is horrible at setting boundaries or refusing advances from strangers

>>43598986
blanchard is nonsense

>>43599047
isnt the sissy bbc fetish agp?

>>43599083
and yes i am the fat ugly top and she is the ethereal beautiful bottom if that wasn't obvious. she just hates socializing with people she isn't close with and I'm a chronic yapper that flirts with everyone

>>43599083
ftms think its gender affirming to look and smell like shit, even gay ftms. and tbqh it doesnt help that mtfs now are bullying them into not being heckin femenine trans men cause thats cheating and shit. but even them it is true that femboy ftms dont work for it either they just skinnymax

>>43599102
No it is not it's all based on a theory of sexuality, which has been validated many times. It's just not popular with modern trans women because it's marginalizes the ones who see most likely to be AGP

>>43599103
different branch of AGP, thats boomercore, transbians are racist they are scared of black dudes and hate sissy shit. note both are racist, just in different ways.

>>43599103
it's not sissy to want dick

>>43599123
the meta attraction part is iffy

>>43599088
>>43599088
>introvertrd androphilic bisexual who is horrible at setting boundaries or refusing advances from strangers
your gf is literally me

>>43599144
thats the part i dont get as a HSTS, im attracted to men cause i like men, not cause it makes me feel like a woman. most women are like that too even if radfems and other cuckoos say its all a performance or whatever, like no bitch men are just hot its that simple.

>>43598989
>HSTS prioritize outside social approval.

This may indeed be true. It may also answer the question about why it's only Latinos and blacks who seem to be hsts today. They do not prioritize gay men as high as white middle class people do

>AGPs prioritize gooning and cooming.
Maybe true

>>43599172
yeah i think theyre afraid to admit they like men but youd think that would b easier than being trans so idgi

>>43599061
>Why do you think most hsts today are Latino or black?
Because Latinos and blacks outnumber crackers globally.
There is nothing enlightened about being a westoid, bro. And the "community" in westoid (especially angloid) countries is full of cretins and PDF files.

>>43599144
Certainly not for gay men if they are transgender, or not, makes no difference

>>43599195
it reads to me like repressed gay men, maybe why its more prevalent amongst whites as some have said here, rather be a transbian or whatever with "meta" attraction that say you like man butt. maybe they'll get over it eventually and realize they just bi.

>>43599196
I admit I don't know what you're talking about?

>>43599196
no its because they are hsts to make money off sex tourists. the westoid equivalent is the OF thots

>>43599215
no dude, they like men too. why cant you AGPs just understand that HSTS just like men, its not some psychosexual meta shit, not even if youre a prostitute you can have your clients but your lover as well.

>>43599208
blanchard calls bi people agp and in the /ttt/ polls almost everyone here is bi.

>>43599249
then why agps get so insecure about male attraction. like most of them just end up with other trans women so its like, youre halfway there already. but no HSTS cant just actually like dudes its gotta be some meta science shit.

>>43599261
no idea i found the poll results baffling i thought almost everyone here was gay

>>43599261
Blanchard said that you HSTS girls are genuinely attracted to men but that us AGPs are only “pseudobisexual” or what some call “meta-attracted”. I don’t buy it either, I’ve sucked too many dicks for it to just be a weird meta-fantasy. I’m just bi. Honestly even if it is always meta-attraction for us then it seems that the meta-attraction can be so strong that it becomes sexually and emotionally functional.

>>43599463
maybe mr blanchard shoulda tried some dick himself then he woulda understand better. some blanchard cis straight scholar should get on that and see what they find. tho i dont actually know if blanchard himself was straight or bi or whatever. i assume he was straight.

>>43598178
an old hack made shit up

>>43599261
I don't understand this either? They don't seem to object to the gay men who live as men in gaygen
I feel I have much more in common with gay men, then trans women on this board.
I don't think some of us are as transgender as they are since they're willing to die if they can't transition. I could and maybe should have lived as a gay man. You’ll never hear them say this

>>43599580
I've always assumed he was gay

>>43598178
one transitioned because they were actually feminine and the other transitioned because wearing panties gave them a boner

>>43598330
what if you don't and never did get off to anything?

>>43599881
Probably AGP

>>43599928
but why
why can't there be a third thing for nonsexual transitions

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real women are hsts

>>43599792
gay men on estrogen are the future of hsts transgenderism
in all honesty, I don't care for the whole tranny culture, I like gay culture. With trans it appears super narrow-minded and everyone gets ultra uppity defensive and then there's also the whole optics desaster.
Gay guys I meet are just super chill, like extremely accepting. Put on some makeup and a dress? Hell yeah Harry, slayy. They get it can be a purely expressive kinda aesthetic thing and does not literally mean you are a woman if you behave / appear more fem and it doesn't have to be sexual. You can just get earrings and wear a dress cause why tf not? I prefer that over the trans neuroticism so I picked my sides accordingly.

>>43599463
From the beginning of this post, you're being fed a bill of goods, based on lies.
The first lie, the most obvious one for me, is that HST transition because they like to be feminine, like women and they always look like women.
The truth is, if they can't transition and pass well enough to be accepted as a feminine woman, they choose to be gay men. Agp's are never like this...
AGPs are sexually unique, they are not really gay, or straight. They have a sexuality which is agp itself
AGPs are much more internally motivated to transition. This is true.

>>43599824
was blanchard lowkey hsts himself, that would explain a lot

>>43598178
Idk but I know that both of these women are retarded for using Blanchardian labels
He was a shit scientist lol, even Hirschfield's old ass was better at figuring out trannies.
Blanchard was a chaser

>>43599941
This is not hsts. If you knew anything about it and really understood gay men, or hsts, you would realize most hsts don't want a,body like this for self-expression. And if they do, it's strictly to attract men. They are not attracted to it themselves.
You have to have a heterosexual male sexuality to find this body interesting. Most hsts do not find this at all sexually exciting.

>>43600048
I think this is more of an AGP interest.

>>43600163
I agree, that >>43599941 looks fucking disgusting wobbly ass pudding sloshing around

>>43600048
some would call this coping but idk maybe im just mentally strong. like yeah i wish i was a woman but i would still be a weirdo, like if i was a cis woman lowkey id troon out too and be like of them gay ftms as ive said before. so idk maybe im just weird.

>>43599580
>>43599824
>>43600090
He is bisexual which makes him AGP coping with projection by studying other AGPs who transition unlike him

>>43600090
No I seriously doubt it. I've heard most of his work and he says very little about a trusteous compared to the volumes he speaks about agp.
I don't think he's really studied homosexual transsexuals to the same degree

>>43600202
hmm yeah that makes sense cause he def had to have some form of autism and thats agp coded. a hsts woulda just been out there fuckin and suckin.

>>43600186
Read! The dress is not sexual. The dress is just a piece of clothing, why shouldn't men be allowed to wear it or why does it have to say anything more than wearing a t-shirt when a man wears a dress?

>>43600163
and even then it depends cause like yeah getting fucked and dominated is cool and all ive gotten off to it enough, but im more attracted to like seductive men. like i actually would rather get a man that knows how to ride you good and shit that myself be the one penetrated. i honestly would prefer like a flat chested fem build than that.

>>43600188
I'm guessing it's a heterosexual man's delight. Women like this don't even really know that they are so attractive, other than men telling them over and over, they are.
Any male who strongly desires to look like this that's probably AGP. I think most it just hsts she could only as a way of hoping for male attention. I remember when my body first started changing I thought it was an ugliness!

>>43600237
I don't know but I think men are the ones who enforce the rules about gender identity conformity. I don't think most gay men are straight men want to wear dresses?

>>43600249
I want the tits GONE ugh take them off
and cumming again would be hot too I guess
well well
too little
too late

>>43600257
>I think men are the ones who enforce the rules about gender identity conformity
ime it's not the LGBs but T and straight is pretty keen on it both sexes alike cause it's their whole foundation of life and society

>>43600202
Suggesting his insight is personal is an interesting observation

>>43600270
Some of us would rather have male bodies and be able to dress like women. We used to call these people drag queens

I think what trips out AGPs is that they think we are all bottoms cissies or something but no im more like a verse that anything. im not attracted to men cause "rrrr hulking beat pound me" or whatever, i just like men, their shape their masculinity. and i can enjoy that rough and i can enjoy that gentle. and that applies outside of sex. like its hot when a guy treats you right, or doing something nice for him and knowing he appreciates you.

>>43600329
but not too manly, even thought i am attracted myself to manly bodies, frankly i on the personal would like to be more of a plain flat chested woman, but dress good and style myself good. i dont want to be some big booba type.

>>43600163
>>43600270
nta but is this why most hsts ive met are skelly skinny with no tits (not hate just something i observed)

>>43600370
I don't know but I like the idea of having no tits. I'm never really liked tits

>>43600523
honestly its nice to know this is more common that i thought. i was writing this story and making a whole complicated reason for why this trans woman character didnt have any tits cause i just dont like that look but i didnt want to be problematic about it, i guess this is just a normal HSTS thing then lol

>>43600349
I like men too sexually. I don't know if I'd have to be a woman to like men? Do you think you'd have to be a woman to like men?

>>43600563
I came out gay years before I transitioned. I honestly think if I were taller more masculine looking, I probably would never have transition. Probably had a better life?

>>43600576
nah but it would just be so much nicer. i like the idea of being a mom more that anything too, id like to have some children at some point. but getting a woman pregnant while not really into her feels like an asshole move to me. and yeah adoption is an option but thats fuckin hard to get approval for too especially as a gay man, and well you know it might be selfish but i do want them to have my genes and stuff.

>>43600636
I've never wanted to have kids but I do agree, passing on my genes would be a catastrophe for me

>>43598261
What would you consider to be a good glasses style?

>>43600614
>I came out gay years before I transitioned
this used to be the norm, i feel so alienated from modern transgender discourse cause theyre all like straight boys that discovered they were trans first, like "oh i was lesbian all along thats why i watched anime and had waifus" and im like dude we have nothing in common. i have more in common with gay ftms that than.

>>43598178
i literally look like the one on the right, that’s terrifying

>>43600370
certainly is one of the reasons for me
I don't even like the whole fat redistro thing of estrogen that much honestly, it's mostly the face and body hair where the subtle changes made me go from 6 to 8

>>43598785
No, HSTS are highly effeminate homosexual males who feel the need to transition for social reasons thats Blanchard

>>43600959
Yes, it started was like that. We transitioned partly for our idea about survival

>>43600871
I think a lot of closeted gay men transition

>>43600523
Fr, the ideal transition goal for me is a flat chested woman

>>43600871
It probably was the norm when I transitioned. In a large Progressive American city and they had to get special permission to take me cuz I was 18.

>>43600871
nta
I agree with you now. But wouldn't have agreed with you 14yrs ago.
I didn't watch anime or had waifus but I was a straight boy. Glad I'm not anymore.

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Hot take but the only people that cares about this kind of stuff are usually ugly hons and babytrans. I'm girlmoding full time stealth and I really don't care what other trans women are doing or what they look like.

A real foid girlmoder would be empathymaxxed from the estrogen and affirm boymoders, manmoders, transbians, AGP, whatever. I know because I'm an actual attractive person and most of you mean people are self described "boymoders" that cling to a fragile, insecure "HSTS" identity because you have nothing else to validate your womanhood. I don't know, it's just kind of sad to see trans on trans hatred. You wear that hatred on your face and your negative thinking compounds and ruins every aspect of your life.

>>43600959
but that makes it sound so stupid. like yeah i get it the whole "i must punish myself for not being a real woman" all the anons do here but like, i can feel like a real woman despite having all these gay male interests and things. you bitches are gooning and watching anime and playing nerdy ass /v/ games and saying thats okay, then i can be a gay ass and still be a woman.

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>>43598205
yeah little fags just won't shut up about how they're actually girls so their families either agree or kick them out and they end up paying for HRT with sex work. AGPs at least TRY to accept the reality that they are male and make an attempt to live a normal life before making their gender dysphoria everyone else's problem. Little HSTS retards are too slow to even know that they shouldn't being acting so faggy, and wouldn't be able to stop if they tried.

>>43601041
boymoding is an AGP thing theyre all yurimaxxing and shit. no real attraction to men. fuck the boymoder mascot is an animu waifu too.

>>43601003
Hey I'm really high. I don't know what I meant by that because I do like my tits okay I just don't want big. They are kind of round in diameter and more than they stick out, which I like
To say don't stick out so much but they do stick out

>>43601041
>A real foid girlmoder would be empathymaxxed from the estrogen and affirm boymoders, manmoders, transbians, AGP, whatever.
see we're closer to gay guys not women so yeah wtv

>>43601056
>AGPs at least TRY to accept the reality that they are male and make an attempt to live a normal life before making their gender dysphoria everyone else's problem
and there goes the AGP with the usual shit. ok lil bro not everyone needs to self flagate for being a weeb ass lolifag or whatever shit you all do. maybe get into dancing or somethin.

>>43601056
true it's an IQ thing
/thread

>>43601077
nah you're letting the AGP mindcontrol guide you, like yeah its true but we're still closer to women that their neurotic asses. is the shit the 4chnites here say supposed to be what real women do?

>>43601088
oh to be a blissfully unaware flaming transexual with no sense of shame...

>>43601097
it's one of those things where being dumb will actually lead to you having a better life because you don't overthink everything

>>43601077
no I'm fully foidbrained and lean way more on woman but you could say it's a spectrum and I'm somewhere between a cis female and a gay guy. even a trans woman's brain and bottom gay guy's brain is different than cis men & women.
>>43601062
No a lot of boymoders are straight but the people who are mean to other trans women are rarely pretty girlmoders

Girlmoders are more often nicepilled

There are not a lot of reasons to be mean when you have a nice lfie

I'd wager some pocket change that OP isn't a full time girlmoder lol, but she would never acknowledge this, she is too cowardly.

>>43601102
>is the shit the 4chnites here say supposed to be what real women do?
of course not most talk here is obviously gynephilic-leaning bisexual nerds (which isn't exactly your average cis woman).
I'm just saying that when presented with two people to converse with, a gay guy and a cis woman, I'll pick the gay guy pretty much in a heartbeat.

>>43601056
You don't like them because they're interested into men?

>>43601123
When I begin transitioning at 18 I didn't think of anything about any consequences whatsoever or who saw me or what

>>43601131
your language is giving me the ick. sounds like 4t4.
>fully foidbrained
demonstrably not as a cis woman's brain would not have memories of living as a man

>>43601111
oh mighty agp do share your wisdom about all the dumb shit uve read or all the vipeogames and anime u watched

>>43601056
AGPs dont look like that
>btw

>>43601171
Going to be honest, you don't come off as an intelligent person and I'm not concerned about what gives you the ick. This is 4chan.

>demonstrably not as a cis woman's brain would not have memories of living as a man
I never lived as an adult man or man at all. I lived as a boy and I rarely think of my past, but I think you aren't intelligent enough to understand nuance. I said it's somewhere in between in thinking, not that I am literally a cis woman.

>>43601167
when I was 18 I was so hyperaware of everyone's perception of me I was just like playing chess making moves to win them over
couldn't EVER have trooned my social standing was way too high, too much to lose, too many expectations

>>43601220
and 4chan is for dumbass people and pseuds like you

>>43601220
>>I'm fully foidbrained
>[I didnt say] that I am literally a cis woman
huh ya kinda did and this backtracking is bs

>>43601241
Sounds like you belong here. I don't see myself as a pseud, I'm actually genuinely smarter than you and have academic and professional achievements. You're just a neet """""boymoder""""" seething at boymoders cuter than you lol.

>>43601256
Arguing semantics is low IQ lol. You don't know what I mean by foidbrained. You have your own interpretation, you impose it on me, then get angry.
>[I didnt say] that I am literally a cis woman
Yes, I didn't.

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>>43601180
Realistically I never stood a chance at having a life, male or female. And yes, I get that other people don't give a shit about what I do all day.
For the record I'm admitting that I fucked up here, it's just that I thought I was exercising caution when I was really just burying the thoughts until I felt like I was ok again. Like, I thought I was doing the right thing. Now it's too late.
You were right i was wrong, but I still get why I made the choices I did.

>>43601263
>I'm actually genuinely smarter than you and have academic and professional achievements
It's always the most pathetic socially inept friendless people that say shit like this cause they think it matters or validates them. It absolutely doesn't kek

>>43601279
cope

>>43601263
bruh

>>43601284
I didn't say it to brag, I said it because you accused me of being a pseud lol. I am genuinely smarter than you. You're a dumb and unserious person and you can't justify any of your views.

>you
>having friends
Imagine the smell. I can infer you're a neet "boymoder" with a sad life that polices other trans women. It's honestly very sad that you have no self awareness.

>>43601223
I was just a street kid. I was worried I would look too ugly, so I tried to be a gay boy for several years before I actually transition

>>43601294
>>43601298
Cry more lol. You're not intelligent enough to argue with anyone because you have dysgenic genes. I have to defend the strawman you're attacking why? You live a sad, mediocre life.

>>43601319
>you accused me of being a pseud lol
I didn't, you have to use your intelligence to discern anons better
>Imagine the smell
I wear chanel which I bought this week when I was shopping with the girls

>>43601283
aight i just want to hop on dih, or have some hunk hop on my dih

if u can't pass on estrogen you can still take the really good skin and mog normies by Michael jacksonmaxxing, usually your in a pretty good situation for this because you probably had a high test puberty if you can't pass

agp's don't understand this because they don't see the beuty in michael jacksonmaxxing

>>43601336
tf is dysgenic genes yall bitches always makin shit up

>>43601355
>and 4chan is for dumbass people and pseuds like you

>>43601336
yo it's a thread about turbofags on a mongolese basketweaving forum can you like go to reddit or facebook with your shit please

>>43601366
It's why you are incapable of any intelligent thought and why you are ugly and morally repugnant to boot. I stand by what I said, only hideously ugly people cruelly police the gender of other trans women. It's not a controversial statement in any way. You're just an idiot.

>>43601363
>Michael jacksonmaxxing
MJ is literally my HSTS icon. bitch was also the most famous and prolific artist of the 20th and 21th century. transbians could never.

>>43601367
there are multiple people posting anonymously in this thread and arguing with you. are you aware of that?

>>43601372
No lol, I can do what I want. Stop whining so much you low IQ mong. How do you live your life like this?

>>43601375
>only hideously ugly people cruelly police the gender of other trans women
and yet, you are doing that too lol. i get that you want HSTS to be nicer to AGPs but you yourself are coming across as the usual asshole AGP even tho you are HSTS yourself

>>43601363
Michael jacksonmaxxing, usually your in a pretty good situation for this because you probably had a high test puberty if you can't pass

>agp's don't understand this because they don't see the beuty in michael jacksonmaxxing.

I do I love the idea. Being feminine as a man would be my first choice

>>43601386
>doesn't do the basic courtesy of saying NTA and expects me to assume every reply might be a new person

Jesus Christ you are genuinely a retard, anon. All this disruption because I said bitterhons are usually not pretty irl lol. Looks like I struck a nerve with the entire website, a collection of the most miserable losers on the planet. I just ask you to be nicer to fellow trans women that did nothing wrong to you.

>>43601402
I'm not policing your gender I'm policing your policing of gender lol. I'm just pushing back on you miserable guys. Damn, you're stupid! Keep it up.

>>43601402
that one's UBER-AGP not a single doubt in my mind

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>>43601406
if you don't like being a man, and you can't be a woman... maybe its time to become... MICHAEL JACKSON?

>>43601407
>I just ask you to be nicer to fellow trans women that did nothing wrong to you.
nah thanks I'm genuinely an asshole so uhm kek'd @ u irl rn
>the basic courtesy of saying nta
i can just tell by the writing style

>>43601420
I don't see what innocent trans women do as being negative but I think you do because you're ugly lol. I don't like you bullies, you rub me the wrong way.

>>43601435
uh
ha hee
dagamtz

>>43601444
I would just hope you're okay if I saw an ugly mentally ill freak laughing eratically irl lol

Being mean is not something to be proud of, it shows that every aspect of your inner psychology is dysfunctional.

>>43601418
>I'm not policing your gender I'm policing your policing of gender lol
yeah i know youre doing that im just pointing out how silly that is. i dont even hate AGPs i just think its right to vent about how assholish they are to us. "oooh you're just a gay man doll culture ballroom culture ooh thats for fags thats actually misogynistic" as if their fucking incel unwashed ass weeb gooner shit isnt far more misogynistic or whatever.

>>43601445
This is just the disagreement website even if I agree with you irl I will still play devil's advocate to see where the conversation goes

>>43601406
MJ woulda looked so good if he had just stopped in the Bad era. but he had super brainworms dysphoria he had to constantly change it. what a shame.

>>43601435
I'd love it. I have to admit I love being a flamer, you can't be a woman and be a flamer

>>43601456
nah being mean is needed to shield myself from interacting with retards like you irl

>>43601458
Yeah I'm sure it's normal and healthy to cast judgments on entire groups of people that did nothing to you personally. You're not a freak at all. I'm nice to trans women and they're nice to me in return, I can tell they feel really validated when I'm nice to them. But I don't like you guys.

Bullies hate it when you return the fire and push back on them. It's sad how hypocritical you guys are.

>>43601475
Yes that would be cool, but what if he wanted to go to extreme, be like Diana Ross?

>>43601476
god made permanent manmoders so that they can carry the legacy of MICHAEL MOTHERFUCKING FUCKING JACKSON

>>43601493
No one would want to interact with you lol your soul is so hideous and so is your face

>>43601458
"oooh you're just a gay man doll culture ballroom culture ooh thats for fags thats actually misogynistic"

No one has ever said this to you, you're a fat basement dweller that has never been outside and you have a skewed perception of people because you're a permaonline loser. It's the spaces you hang out in.

>>43601494
ok you gotta be AGP cause even the nicests HSTSs i know vent about AGPs. they literally say the most mean shit about us all the time while gaslighting us about how theys the real women while having zero female interests. and then they pich and choose when you can even use the whole blanchard shit. like if we try using it on them theyre like "oh no you cant do that theres no such think as male brained and female socialization. btw youre a fag and dont talk about womens stuff" like BITCHHH. anyway i dont hate them the just get me a lil annoyed.

>>43601494
I just don't need your validation bitch
Get outta here with that fake accepting attitude of yours
A lot of trannies are cringe as FUUUQ and they need to know it because letting them be cringe is detrimental to their condition

>>43601528
they literally say that all day on twitter, while gooning to fuckin like k-on or whatever /a/ approved moe anime and shit.

>>43601509
You're constantly insulting my appearance yet I do not yours. Sounds like projection desu

>>43601474
Genuinely, that's inappropriate for this conversation. I'm just objectively right. Be kind to others, simple as. Don't be a bitterhon that bullies the innocent.

I want to protect other trans woman from these freaks. Irl they're all very kind vulnerable people. 4chan is just a deeply toxic, fucked up place.

>>43601529
im pretty sure the only people who cling to the blanchard HSTS shit are deeply insecure or something. Like im sure meta attraction has something to do with being trans but also on the part of androphillic trannies (case study: me) so I'm pretty sure self proclaimed "hsts" are the ones too stupid and insecure to face that fact

>>43601503
Okay, I'll take your word for it

>>43601558
>Irl they're all very kind vulnerable people
IRL they are sexpests

>>43601561
are you saying its us HSTS that actually are obsessed with blanchard. cause thats literally an AGP thing. i have never even read queer theory sis okay i work off vibes.

>>43601561
It would depend on their motivation
It's a truly want to make it clear to other people that you're struggling between being gay or being transgender, then it doesn't make sense to speak out about it.

>>43601568
keek
>>43601558
>Be kind to others, simple as
No, I do not care about randos. I have kindness to give but not to every hulking UwU stripy socks transbian gamer hon that posts on this anonymous internet forum

>>43601561
This anon is just stating exactly what I'm saying.
>>43601556
I think correlation exists, you can infer things about people based on how they behave. Internally ugly people like you are usually ugly. Idk what to tell you, you're probably not a good looking person.
>>43601542
Shut off the internet and touch grass incel
>>43601532
You are cringe too lol, I'm letting you know.
>>43601529
I did disparage other trans women when I was a babytrans a very long time ago but I'm above that. You guys are also unable to understand that people are generally different.

>>43601579
well all the people who invoke blanchard are the ones bragging they are HSTS according to MY vibes based analysis

>>43601607
i will vive you off bih

>>43601597
selective kindness isn't kindness, it's just being performative at your convenience. you have an ugly soul.
>>43601568
No they're meek and timid lol. They look like they're afraid more than anything.

>>43601607
I admitted I am meta-attracted to, so this presents us with a dillema.

If blanchard is correct, that would make me AGP and thus smart so I am correct, while you are HSTS and dumb and thus wrong.

Or blanchard is wrong, and you are wrong.

in both cases you are wrong, sucks to suck

>>43601606
i am revoking your HSTS card, you are hereby declared chudcel gigahoned ay gee pee

>>43601632
For which statement and why?

>>43601606
>Internally ugly people like you are usually ugly
>usually
Well newstime I'm internally ugly but externally extremely hot. A kind of one-of-a-kind exception. Otherwise I'd be begging for everyone's approval and validation or sth but I can just be an asshole and people will keep coming to me WHOOPS

>>43601607
How are they bragging about it? Are they bragging about it when they say they are sexually attracted to men? I really like to hear your explanation

>>43601636
everything bruh

>>43601637
No you're not lol, you have bad genes. Intelligence, compassion, and being good looking are usually correlated. You have none. You think you do, but you are not an attractive person. Someone attractive would not be such a heinous incel.

>>43601641
AGPs lowkey imply that we are saying we are more real women and they are perverts. which okay sure, but they in turn call us fakes and perverts. so its just a circle, and frankly i feel like they started that shit. we were just vibing, they are the ones that started with the insecurity.

>>43601652
>>43601637
what the fuck is wrong with you 2 lol

>>43601607
>agpgen
>>43601619
>selective kindness isn't kindness
what kinda new age SHIT is this one on about. Peace and harmony my ass leave me and my people alone

>>43601642
Literally every single normal trans person in the world that goes outside thinks the AGP/HSTS seethe troons are ugly insecure boymoders lol. Try discussing these things with normal people and not your bitterhon echo chamber. See how they react to your heinous incel behavior.

>>43601652
you are the one thats actin like an incel bruh like i get you think you are nice because you are fighting for ur fellow trans womens honor but like, youre being an asshole about it lol. at the end of the day i will say both us HSTSs and AGPs can be mean in different ways.

>>43601663
I took acting and creative writing classes
>>43601652
okay thx babe I'll let my boyfriend know that I am devastated

>>43601668
normal people dont go on the 4chans to begin with cis. you probably a nazi or something anyway.

>>43601663
There is absolutely nothing wrong with me lol. I was very fair this whole conversation.
>>43601669
I'm a libra. Get it, dummy?

>>43601659
ok so my real take is blanchard was an idiot and he probably observed real trends in people and then oversimplified it. Literally the only people who take blanchard seriously are stupid trannies and terfs, doctors don't care about this fucking shit

>>43601659
Don't you think it would be best to try to make each other understand what we are like rather than play on these stereotypes?

>>43601677
I think bragging about having a boyfriend like it's an achievement that's hard to get shows you are an ugly boymoder lol. This isn't a flex even on 4chan, son.
>>43601679
You are probably a nazi. What the hell are you talking about? Why would I be the nazi here?

>>43601668
I don't I discuss blanchardism with fellow retards on the fag board. Normies wouldn't get it.

>>43601685
i fucking hate radfems and think they are stupid as all fuck, but i can tell you that some trans women start larpmaxxing as radfems themselves because they think its the ultimate trutrans truwoman validation and im like, no being a radfem is retarded as fuck. yeah men can be assholes, but the usual woman still likes men all the same. even radfems end up with men they just larp as political lesbians for a while.

>>43601704
It's not that they wouldn't get it, it's that no one should get it. Your views are freakish to society because you are a heinous inbred incel and idiot.

>>43601701
I am a stalinist actually.

>>43601701
>son

>>43601727
I know because you don't have a job lmao

>>43601718
yeah exactly the people who latch onto the retarded HSTS trutrans shit are just insecure morons desperate to be validates as real wamen who aren't meta attracted (notice how they will constantly brag about passing and being hot though). we do have agpgen but the name seems to be in good fun from people who know how this shit works.

>>43601723
>heinous inbred incel and idiot
okay cool
i ain't gonna change
jfc jeeps these days

>>43601737
i have a job actually thank you very much

>>43601732
That's what your parents see you as. Problem, son? Problem, angry little boy?

>>43601749
yeah, a HAND job

>>43601753
they are calling her the most AGP self declared HSTS of all time. damn bro imagine dickridin girldick this hard.

>>43601748
Perhaps you will when one day you get punched by someone for your hideous mind lol

I believe in redemption but you make it very hard to believe in

I hope you do change because it's a bad life, being like you are.

>>43601764
ill give YOUR dad a handjob

>>43601753
>>43601764
brother decided to put his first line of coke to use by arguing with blanchardists
fucking kino

>>43601767
yeah I'm a libra, I don't like when people bully the innocent. I feel a personal disgust towards many people in this thread.

>>43601668
Okay I see your point. Let me ask you, Suppose my biggest conflict in my life is between being gay man and a transgender woman? How else am I going to find out about it, if I don't talk about me and possibly being a gay male?
I mean if they're thinking I'm interested in women, are they going to understand
my confusion?

>>43601786
Lol don't project your drug habit on others, trailer trash

>>43601786
blanchardists that havent even read his shit mind you. this is all larp larp larp sahoor.

>>43601806
people who do cocaine are usually wealthy because they LOCK THE FUCK IN

you wouldn't understand, this is too malebrained and gigachadpilled for your dumb hsts fag brain you dont have because hsts is fake bullshit

>>43601806
you gotta be the MAGA version of HSTS. who are you fuckin caitlyn jenner.

yapyapyapyapyap

>>43601802
It was rhetorical and I am not sincerely asking you to talk about your views irl. If you tried, you'd get socially exiled.

Everything in your neurology is deeply wrong and you should fix your diseased mind rather than look for someone to accept you.

>>43601818
>>43601806
ok so you both are stupid bitches
im gonna go drink now
and then goon to gay porn

>>43601818
So you are indeed a drug addict. Disgusting.
>>43601819
So you are indeed a drug addict. Disgusting.

>>43601826
You don't seem to like me at all, do you? Not because of who I am is because of who do you think I am.

>>43601829
Have fun bud

>>43601834
i dont even do drugs, im just that fucking awesome that you think i do

people take drugs to BE LIKE ME BITCH

>>43601834
>tolerance for trans people
>no tolerance for drug addicts
makes sense if you don't think about it

>>43601846
I'm moreso upset at the cruelty rather than just outright hating anyone in this thread. Sorry if I came off as rude, I think your ideas are unhealthy and you need therapy.

>be kind to everyone teehee
>FUCK drug addicts and poor trash I am adolf hitler commander of the third reich
btw AGPs are literally stereotyped for all being druggies. its literally part of their culture. are you gonna condemn that mrs AGP respecter.

>>43601775
Haven't gotten punched
Won't get punched
Not gonna change
Gonna keep making you SEETHE

>>43601859
she drank the cocktail that turns you into an inconsistent dumb bitch. thats how you know shes actually HSTS, AGPs are too malebrained and autistic to do shit like that.

>>43601857
name one person that has ever done a drug to be like you specifically
>>43601859
Gays in general do a lot of degenerate behavior and I advocate for them on a human level but not the bad behaviors, I can't enable them
>>43601874
I've talked to many trans women that aren't. Clearly I'm not encountering the same people you do.
>>43601881
Calling you a fool and pushing back on you is not seething. If that were the case, you are seething and this entire thread is seething.

>>43601887
No I'm totally consistent. You can advocate for a group on a human level but not support some behaviors. I could say Iove black people but the community and culture could have issues.

>>43601899
a lot of people do drugs to be like me

Asking -you people- to be nicer is like some kind of crime here. Bunch of miserable losers lol.

>>43601913
Name a single person then lol

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>>43601899
you know you add to my theory that us HSTS are actually a lil ftmbrained, cause you are literally this dude.

>>43601921
this is 4chan my nigger, you cant ask people to be nicer but they probably should learn to not take this silly site seriously (because if you do it turns you into a silly billy that makes you do silly things that scare all the normies because they think all the other silly people are doing to do silly things with silly consequences)

>>43601930
barack obama
michelle obama

>>43601899
drugs aren't even bad what the fuck are you talking about
you don't seem to understand that I do not interact with trans people irl
I have no desire to never had if I wanna hang with women theyre usually cis and if they're trans and pass I don't wanna talk about trans so I just treat them like everyone else which means I do not give a flying fuck about them unless I choose to

>>43601933
like I said I'm somewhere mentally between a gay guy and a cis female so that tracks. Though this list is completely off.
>>43601934
idk you should just be nicer to trans women in my opinion!

>>43601941
michelle obama was our first transbian president

>>43601934
mynameissillybillyandicameheretosay

>>43601941
Impressive af I'm sorry for arguing with someone so well connected, she knows the Obamas

>>43601952
I think weed and psilocybin are fine.

>>43601965
and obama was her pooner bf, iconic t4t couple goals

>>43601933
you are the plant dad if the plant dad was gay, which lets be honest the plant dad will gay out eventually most ftms nowdays are gay. dick is too damn alluring and women are so fucking hard. i should know.

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>>43601971
weneedtotakeallofyourrightsaway

thegreatresetistheonlyremedy

to our greatest challenge

HUMANITY

>>43601974
Why weed?
Weed is arguably just bad if you consider everything else bad. have you ever hung around stoners or been one urself they don't get anything done super lazy
I wanna work. Get stuff done. Literally can't with these people.

>>43602004
I'm from a blue state. I don't think being a stoner is good, do weed in moderation and there are strains that can be good for productivity. It's also good for sex.

I say weed because I think it's the least toxic on your body and lease likely to ruin your life or accidentally kill you.

Similar reasons for shrooms. The harm is low.

>>43601994
meant for
>>43601962
damn im tired

>>43602028
>I'm from a blue state
we can tell sis. are u from portland or somethin?

>>43601994
I'm not at all one of those woke leftists. I'm not seeing where you're seeing the resemblance at all.
>>43602038
no, not portland

>>43602028
>weed least likely to ruin your life
bs I've seen stoners never do anything at all
but you can pop a molly twice a year and it's gonna be a much more enjoyable, less harmful experience than smoking trees 'for productivity' ayyylmao

>>43602046
>I'm not at all one of those woke leftists
>whole argument started over defending the heckin AGPs and being kind and shit
ok you are hitting the dumb bitch juice too much you need to log off

>>43602046
>I'm not at all one of those woke leftists
you DID NOT actually just say that

>>43602052
molly isn't that bad but weed can be fine

my perspective comes from me having no relationship with addiction at all

I have some edibles around the home

I don't hang around stoners, can't say.
>>43602054
na I'm smart I had very good grades I'm a good girl

You don't need to be woke to be nice.

>>43602063
come on now asking you guys to be nicer doesn't mean I'm woke or leftist lol

>>43602072
you are gigawoke

>>43602072
if i saw you on the streets i would beat your dumbass cracker ass so bad im so for real

>>43602083
man behavior
>>43602082
what's my wokest opinion

>>43602082
shes both a gigawoke and hitler. shes a real democratmaxxer she should run for her local assembly.

>>43602096
hitler was a vegetarian

>>43602096
desu I agree with you, I'd be a really good senator, it's really my calling in life

>>43602096
she's a tankie
>>43602095
>what's my wokest opinion
be nice to everybody

>>43602109
bitch you need to go on chapo and link up with hasan right now. or maybe hasan is too authoritarian for you maybe you are an acolyte of lord will stancil instead.

>>43602113
lmaooooo my politics might shock you but I won't share

>>43602118
it's okay I don't wanna know