Is it offensive to real transsexuals? Is it harmful, does it lead to destruction of trans rights?I have heard from some people that these sorts of individuals are cheapening the condition of gender dysphoria by using transition as self-expression/accessory. As an oblivious cis, I do not quite understand it all, so that is why I'm now asking this, to listen and learn from those that know better.
>>43757766How are you cissexual if you're medically transitioning? Did you mean cisgender, like femboys and stuff? I think it's ok for femboys to take HRT, but I'm biased because I'm attracted to femboys and want them to be as girly as possible.t. ranny
>>43757806>How are you cissexual if you're medically transitioning?I meant like people ho do not consider themselves the opposite sex fully. And are likely to not have bottom dysphoria.I'm under the impression that anyone who doesn't want a full transition and/or doesn't consider themselves to be the opposite sex fully is not trassexual and is a type of cis. Is that the wrong impression?>Did you mean cisgender, like femboys and stuff?Yes, I suppose femboys on HRT is one of the categories of people I meant by saying it.
>>43757826> I meant like people ho do not consider themselves the opposite sex fully. And are likely to not have bottom dysphoria.>I'm under the impression that anyone who doesn't want a full transition and/or doesn't consider themselves to be the opposite sex fully is not trassexual and is a type of cis. Is that the wrong impression?There are trans girls with this position but it is a very fringe opinion.Usually cissexual is someone who doesn't change their sex and transsexual is someone who changes their sex.>>43757826>Yes, I suppose femboys on HRT is one of the categories of people I meant by saying it.Well, a lot of the time people call themselves these labels as a stepping stone to realising they're just trans, actually, and if they can get ahead of it and transition earlier, I think that's good.Even if they don't, if it makes their mental health better, I don't see why not.Non-binary people may not be "full transsexuals" and still benefit from medical transition.Honestly it gives me more of an ick when people make an active choice to look like a genderfuck than when they just take a medication that helps align their body with how they want it to be.
>>43757766What you’re describing is the truscum/transmedicalist position. It’s pretty controversial, I think there’s a lot of truth to it but some people take it too far. I think dysphoria is a spectrum, some are extremely dysphoric (many but not all “true transsexuals”) and others are more mildly dysphoric but would still benefit from transition. The relatively small number of extremely dysphoric people do not appreciate being at the center of a culture war largely brought on by a dramatic increase in the number of less dysphoric transitioners, many of which have no desire to assimilate as members of their transitioned sext. cissoid/faketrans on hrt
>>43757926>a culture war largely brought on by a dramatic increase in the number of less dysphoric transitionersPretty sure it's because Christian extremists needed a new scapegoat because screaming "God hates fags" wasn't working anymore but ok
>>43757766i think if you're cis as in identity as a man and take hrt then you're disgusting and only hurting the trans community
>>43757904>There are trans girls with this position but it is a very fringe opinion.Ah, I see. Didn't know that it wasn't a mainstream opinion.>Usually cissexual is someone who doesn't change their sex and transsexual is someone who changes their sex.Noted!Also, thank you for explaining things and sharing your opinions on the phenomenon!
>>43757926I see. So dysphoria is a spectrum...How did the increase in less dysphoric transitioners cause the culture war? I'm going to admit that I had not kept up with the topic until recently and at this point I only see anti-trans people be against every transition, no matter whether it helps people or not. I assume you mean that it was not like that until some point closer to nowadays?
>>43757979Okay, noted. Thank you for sharing!
>>43758015I mean that was all just my opinion so take it with many grains of saltIt didn’t *cause* the culture war, the other anon is right that the culture war was mostly manufactured by bad actors, however the explosion in the number of people identifying as trans (including some.. unpalatable weirdos) certainly made that easier. And yes anti-trans people for the most part do not grasp any of the nuance and oppose all trans people, even the extremely dysphoric ones who just want to assimilate and live their lives
I am but a humble cis man on hrt. I don't pretend to be a woman or a real transsexual and transsexuals are nice to me because I respect that boundary. The problem is that there are many non-dysphorics who don't respect it and just claim to be trans women while being total opposites because they don't care that they don't pass in the slightest
I do not mind or care what crazy shit you are up to or what you care to call it.
You shouldnt care tbdesumost of this shit is online brainworms anyway as few IRL notice or carei only told people who needed to know but not everyone elseits a comfy existencet. postop femboy
>>43758109I see. Thank you for explanation
>>43759187>postop femboyunironically laughing out loudnice bait, anon.
>>43760055not b8 thobeen on hrt and a femfag for long enough that i wanted a way out from anal prepping
>>43760088at that point are you not literally just a transsexual woman?
>>43757766>cissexual>cisTake your 2012 faggotry back to tumblr and get this trash off the front page of 4chan. You based your entire personality on a fraudulent ideology that was bought and paid for buy corporate elites after Occupy Wall Street. Just KYS already.
>>43758109>the culture war was mostly manufactured by bad actorsI wonder who that could be. And yes, you did fan the flames by falling for this nonsense. This containment board is a mark of shame on your life.
>>43757926A lot of it was weaponized to keep the halfwit uggos like myself out of the desirable trans feeds in a warped sense of protection, or rather investment, since we can trigger their dysphoria and their supporters spank banks. Sounds crazy but I'm just a turd in the punch bowl that doesn't know when to shut up and will soon be silenced.
>>43760249I dont deny i am transsexual. Im just not transgender. The distinction used to matter. I am not a woman. Iwnbaw. I just look kinda sorta like one but im just a femfag and that's fine.
