if sex and personality aren't linked then how come 99% of male people are men and 99% of female people are women
like there must be some connection here. it's not a coincidence that most people aren't trans

>>43808711
>if sex and personality aren't linked then how come 99% of male people are men and 99% of female people are women
what

>>43808716
what's the point in gender abolition if the vast majority of people like gender?

>>43808720
what does it mean to "like" gender"?
do trans people imagine cissies sit around all day patting same-sex individuals on the back and saying "well megan it sure is GRAND to be a female woman!"

>>43808729
no, but cis people are happy and comfortable with their gender
trans people don't sit around patting themselves on the back talking about how great it is after transitioning either
but it's very clear that women like being women and like engaging in many female gender roles. And men like being men and like engaging in many male gender roles. The whole gender abolitionism thing is kinda selfish because it goes beyond changing your own presentation and appearance, and at least implies that other people should change too

>>43808756
>cis people are happy and comfortable with their gender
how do you know that?
maybe it's a mixed bag for many
I don't think most men appreciate being told they can't express their emotions.

>>43808773
people like many aspects of their gender and dislike other aspects
there are of course some bad things people would like to be rid of, but in general men really like being men

If we want to abolish gender, we should abolish sex first. Then there will be no way to assign genders to people and gender will also stop mattering.
Don't you think sexism is the root cause of all discrimination? Let's start there and abolish sex.

>>43808801
female privilege is the root of all sexism and discrimination, if we stopped artificially elevating women above men, society would function more cohesively

>>43808820
Is this true?

>>43808711
men and women aren't personalities

>>43808628
>>43808801
Why it seems you don't even know what sex is? Are you completely retarded or what?

>>43808628
picrel is a strawman, I'm not trooning because I think "sex and personality are somehow intrinsically linked", I'm trooning because I hated being male and I wanted to change it.

>>43808729
yeah if you hang out in terf spaces you'll see that they do it all the time.

>>43809441
you hate being male because you think men can only act in certain ways

>>43809453
I hate being male because I hate having a male body. you can't just go up to people, tell them what they believe, then get mad at them for the things you made up.

>>43809607
people with male bodies are mistreated by women

>>43809618
not really? cis men control the vast majority of money and power in the country. the only people with "male bodies" who are mistreated are mistreated for other reasons, like for being trans or nonwhite or poor.

>>43809677
that's not true

>>43808628
ok so let me dress and act like a woman and take hrt if these things don't matter

oh wait what's that you want to tie everything to biological sex so that it DOES matter you actually just want me to live as the male gender

go fuck yourself

>>43808628
yes and trannies are fake.

>>43809983
fake?

>>43809453
if i was on an island alone, I would still seek transition.

>>43811133
nuh uh

>>43809368
I don't have to know what it is to know I want to get rid of it. Abolish sex. No more "male", whatever the hell that means. No more "female", whatever the hell that means. No sex on birth certificates. No sex on ID. No sex on the census. No single-sex spaces.
If you have a sex, I don't want to hear about it. That's your problem, buddy.

>>43808729
Yeah because that's how they view being women they think normal people have "gender euphoria"

>>43809441
>I'm not trooning because I think "sex and personality are somehow intrinsically linked", I'm trooning because I hated being male and I wanted to change it.
But according to picrel, this is redundant.

>>43811133
You simply cannot know that

>>43808628
sex and personality are intrinsically linked.
sorry reality disagrees with your retarded ideology

>>43808729
It means you accept what you have and you wouldn't have it different if possible.
>do trans people imagine cissies sit around all day patting same-sex individuals on the back and saying "well megan it sure is GRAND to be a female woman!"
I don't do this, but a thing I do is acknowledge how much I like being a male man and everything that comes with it. I wouldn't have it any other way and I will keep upholding it forever regardless of how much you foidscreech about it.

>>43808628
Is bisexuality intersex? How far do we take it?
If someone feels a little funny in their happy place when they see someone of the same sex as them, but can't imagine actually having sex with them and the concept feels gross, is that intersex?
Is 20+% of the population intersex?
>>43808801
Unironically we should abolish recording sex everywhere. We used to live without it being a field on passports. Why do we even need it? Why's it on my driver's license? What purpose could it possibly serve *besides* enabling sex discrimination?
>>43809453
>>43811133
In fact I did finally transition as close as I'll ever get to being on an island alone: while living alone and working from home (and not on camera even!) in the middle of a global pandemic.
It was constant pressure from society holding me back, not forcing me to transition. Where the fuck do people get these dumb ideas?

>>43808628
gender is just an identity scaffold created to advantage straight people over queers. the existence of two and only two types of people constructs a means of psychologically harming those who arent part of the heterosexual majority by delaying and disturbing their development, and thus limiting their influence on society. "we dont need more chains" is code for "please dont do anything meaningful to damage our advantage over you".

>>43808628
No they’re not this is a glow op and op has a .gov email

>>43808729
>"well megan it sure is GRAND to be a female woman!"
this literally happens

>>43811482
>"Abolish sex"
You want to abolish material reality because you're upset? lol
More like "abolish all knowledge about sex", as if this abolition was even possible or desirable.

Seeing your struggle, your desperation and distress I can understand a little more why you "progressive" genderqueerists so badly deny the reality of sex and want people to be chemically castrated and mutilated in unreasonable attempts to make all knowledge about sex seem meaningless. Because that's a part of your endless and futile endeavor to make all knowledge and practical measures about it "disappear".

>>43814309
the reality of sex is contingent on a bunch of proteins validating your fetish, anon. why are you so mad other people dont want to live out your fetish?

>>43814347
What is this fetish you're talking about, mister know-it-all?

>>43814390
reproductive heterosexuality

>>43814425
You clearly have a fetish in being wrong about everything lol

>>43814443
yeah thats kinda your thing desu, construct a whole fantasy of existence and call everything that occurs outside of it wrong

>>43814347
>>43814425
>>43814451
>1. Deny
>2. Attack
>3. Project
>4. Reverse the facts
>5. Fight against scarecrows
>6. Repeat

>>43809368
you're on 4chan
We're all retarded here

>>43811133
On an isolated island you wouldn't have gender norms passed on you to act a certain way

You could be anything you want when it's just you

>>43814484
utterly meaningless words
engage with matter, nothing else exists

>>43814673
Everything is meaningless to you kek

>>43814702
not really; meaning is as i make it, as nothing exists in concept outside of imagination. conversely, if your assertion as to what exists fails to follow the matter as it actually exists, then you are simply wrong.